Piers Morgan slams ‘sham’ conversion therapist who came out as gay

Piers Morgan criticises former gay conversion therapist on Good Morning Britain

Good Morning Britain host Piers Morgan has criticised a former Mormon conversion therapist, who recently came out as gay, calling his previous job a “sham.”

Morgan slammed 57-year-old David Matheson, who came out as gay in January, during an interview on Good Morning Britain on Monday (February 4).

Matheson was a prominent gay conversion therapist, who helped set up up the Journey into Manhood and the Centre for Gender Wholeness programmes that advocated for gay people to repress their feelings and marry someone of the opposite sex.

Good Morning Britain‘s Piers Morgan tells former gay conversion therapist his life is a “sham”

“Your business is to try and convert people from being gay and you now admit that they can’t be converted,” Morgan told Matheson.

“The guy leading the business and trying to convert gay people has now admitted you can’t be converted.

“That is the purest definition of a sham.”

Matheson, however, defended his previous actions, claiming he did not profit considerably in his former job role.

“The guy leading the business and trying to convert gay people has now admitted you can’t be converted. That is the purest definition of a sham.”

— Piers Morgan

“No, I didn’t make a lot of money. And that was certainly not the motivation,” he said.

“I couldn’t even tell you how much. I don’t know how much I earned per year.”

Ex-gay conversion therapist claims he wasn’t motivated by money, after facing criticism from Piers Morgan

Matheson, whose had previously been married to a woman for 33 years, was trained under Joseph Nicolosi of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH).


Speaking on Good Morning Britain, Matheson also defended Nicolosi’s work, claiming he had been trying to help people.

“Human sexuality for some is fluid,” he said, adding: “Some people did experience shifts in their sexuality over time. So what I was doing in my work was helping people who were able to make that kind of shift.”

Matheson came out in a message shared by Truth Wins Out, a campaign group that battles against gay ‘cure’ therapy, towards the end of January.

“My time in a straight marriage and in the ‘ex-gay’ world was genuine and sincere and a rich blessing to me,” Matheson said at the time.

Matheson added however that he is now “pursuing life as a gay man.”

Watch the Good Morning Britain interview below: