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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

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If there is a hell, none of us are going there because some halfwit with delusions of authority says we are not allowed to love our partners.

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Its irrelevant what the percentage is, I'm here. I'm gay. I'm proud of who I am.

The more concerning thing is why you seem to care so much.

I'm fully with Tony on this:- You're an alcoholic. You admitted it. And I will not take spiritual direction from people like you who's answer to life's little woes is in a gutter with a cheap bottle of gin.

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Are you still using the discredited Kinsey data?

For some reason the fact that I was a drinker tickles you. I only mentioned it to say that just because I am predisposed to being an alcoholic does not mean I should give in to it.

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In this 1984 world, lots of words are being changed. It doesn’t mean the original meaning was flawed or needs upgrading.

Thank you for explaining about Matthew Shephard. It was obviously a horrendous and unjustifiable thing that happened there.

It amazes me, though, how some people involved in sexual sins think that somehow I would rather they were dead. Is it the way I tell ’em?

“there is nothing Mr Cowan can do about that”

Actually, there is. The Almighty gives us the means.

“I reject Christianity. I do this not because of Jesus's central messages, but because of the corruption of that message by others.”

Why do you let ‘others’ decide this for you? I’ll tell you a secret: I was a Mormon for a couple of years before I found out that they corrupted the message. I could have done as you and rejected Christ.

In these last days, everything is becoming corrupted, including churches. It was meant to be, to sort the sheep from the goats.

“The days are long gone when people of faith imposed their policies on the general population”

I know.

“Mr Cowan can think and say what he likes, because in the end it will make no difference.
And for that, I am truly grateful!”

Eternal suffering is an impossibly high price to pay for temporary gratitude.

I want you to know that, out of pure love.

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Hitler was into eugenics of course and survival of the fittest. His philosophy was that anyone not fit to be in the master race, including homosexuals, should be killed.

You’ll be glad to know I do not share his views, but surely, if you have an atheistic/evolution worldview then you have to admit that Hitler had a very good argument?

Nazi sympathizer, Marie Stopes, opened the first birth control clinic in Britain in 1921.

Moral relativism = sin = death (the wages of sin is death)

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I've also read that woeful drivel of a blog of his. He can barely write.

You're all wasting your time. I personally don't take spiritual direction from people like Steward Cowen who's answer to life's little woes is in a gutter with a cheap bottle of gin.

Good for your Steward that you've kicked the bottle, but don't pat yourself on he back for it. Its not a big achievement that you've managed to stop poisoning yourself and beating your family. I've been contributing far more to society than some ex-drunk blogger with delusion of being a mouthpiece for the divine, thank you.

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Mr. Cowans "assessment" on the Matt Sheppard attack is deplorable. I'd suggest he read the bible, rather than just a few out-of-date quotes, for a more fuller appreciation of the meaning of "christianity". Although its always clear to me that these dogmatic intransigent kind tend to focus more on the old testament, which seems more line line with their hateful stance and make them feel one bit better about their sad lives…. why should an alcoholic be any different:- "I dont have to believe drinkin' and wife abuse if bad, coz the bible says that dem der queers are the problem". Indeed.

While I enjoy a lot of the discussions here, including yours flapjack, lets all agree no to engage this twit again. He is incapable of dialogue outside screaming a few stupid biblical lines.

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Of course we should, as a community, reach out to people. No point in debating with the Cowan's of this world. He gets his kicks from winding people up. What we should be doing instead is going out into the world and saying:"This is our case! Hear us out!" Tell the world about how Matthew Shephard died, tied to a fence in the depths of winter. Tell them how we suffered over the years. Tell them about the unhappiness caused by the rejection of others. That's the leverage we need to protect our hard-won rights and freedoms.

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Plus, nature makes body parts more than obvious. You wouldn't pour hot coffee down your ear, would you?"

What a load of utter nonsense.

You see Flapjack, this fool does not warrant a civilised argument, he has not got the capacity or capability to do so. He has answered none of your points, and addressed nothing but the base line "black and white" argument of religion. Religion is anything but black and white.

Steward Cowen makes a fools argument in his definition of what is "natural". Is living beyond 30 natural? Is curing a blind person natural, or curing a person who cannot walk? Is the PC he used "natural"? Is drinking yourself into a stupor with alcohol, technically a poison, natural? No. Yet he seems to take all these as such. How odd.

Logic dictates that if 5-10% of the population are gay, then its *IS* natural by definition of our existence. But logic is wasted on people who make such foolish remarks like his.

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Matthew Shephard was beaten up, and tied to a fence and abandoned. He froze to death. This was as a result of hatred against gay people on the part of his attackers. I challenge anyone to say that his death was justified, or that the manner of his death was none other than brutal or callous.

Mr Cowan thinks homosexuality is sinful, and his view is informed by his religious faith. He is entitled so to do. I, however, am not a Christian. I have no faith, and conduct my affairs by a different set of values. That means I have a partner of the same sex. I have sex with him. I am a citizen, a voter and a consumer and, to be perfectly frank, there is nothing Mr Cowan can do about that.

It is a historical fact that Jesus of Nazareth actually walked this earth, and his message was one of love, compassion, tolerance, kindness and forgiveness. His death on the cross is an inspiration to me, if only because he suffered – like Matthew Shephard – simply because of who he was. Yet, I reject Christianity. I do this not because of Jesus's central messages, but because of the corruption of that message by others.

There are certain values that I treasure: truth; courage; compassion; integrity; committment and humour. Those are the values that I treasure, and you don't have to a Christian to do that.

The days are long gone when people of faith imposed their policies on the general population because they felt that their view of the world was superior to anyone else's. Mr Cowan can think and say what he likes, because in the end it will make no difference.

And for that, I am truly grateful!

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"Whatever cranky belief you have about the nature of sin, there's always a bible verse you can find that's mad enough to back your argument."

It's a black and white case: homosexual behaviour is abomination.

Plus, nature makes body parts more than obvious. You wouldn't pour hot coffee down your ear, would you?

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw

It pretty much reminded me of your blog…

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Did PC Cogman do this?

Who sets the 'human rights' agenda?

Do you know you don't really have any human rights under the UN Charter, in the sense that what you thought were your rights must be forfeited if they interfere with the UN's greater plans?

The equality/diversity/human rights industry is a divide and rule tactic.

"you appear to have a problem in accepting variations in human sexuality and the human condition."

I have a problem with sin, if that's what you mean, especially when children are expected to believe that sinning is acceptable.

"it appears (to me at least) that he seems to resent empowerment of people."

I wish to empower people to make a stand against sin. Your blinkered worldview makes you think the opposite of the truth in this case.
"Most cynical of all is the way he uses children as a way of propagating his prejudices. Of course children are not being sexualised! What a ridiculous thing to say!"

Again, you have it the wrong way round. The 'gay' lobby has managed to make a big deal about homophobia in primary schools. When I went to school, we were left alone to be children not brainwashed about 'sexuality'. We were concerned about climbing trees and finding conkers, playing with toy cars, etc., not learning how to put a condom on a banana.

"His website is nothing more than a rant. Period."

Well, hundreds tune in each day! I think a rant is justified the way this country is spiralling out of control economically, spiritually and morally.

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