Comments on: Boyzone's gay love interest is a video first http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:29:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Tim Chapman http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38292 Tim Chapman Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:42:29 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38292 The CPA obliges pension schemes to equalise benefits for spouses and civil partners, but for certain final salary pension schemes there's an exemption. They only have to equalise from 5th December 2005. This means that, for example, a single person who is a member of such a scheme could have made contributions into a pension fund for, say, 25 years then, in June 2006, become a civil partner. Any subsequent surviving civil partner pension from the fund will be based only on the member’s contributions from 5th December 2005 – ignoring the previous 25 years’ worth of contributions. However, had the member become a spouse in June 2006 through marriage, then any surviving spouse’s pension would be based on the entire contributions record, resulting in a substantially greater widow’s or widower’s pension over that of a surviving civil partner’s. If that’s not a difference between the rights of civil partners and those of married people, then I don’t know what is. The CPA obliges pension schemes to equalise benefits for spouses and civil partners, but for certain final salary pension schemes there's an exemption. They only have to equalise from 5th December 2005. This means that, for example, a single person who is a member of such a scheme could have made contributions into a pension fund for, say, 25 years then, in June 2006, become a civil partner. Any subsequent surviving civil partner pension from the fund will be based only on the member’s contributions from 5th December 2005 – ignoring the previous 25 years’ worth of contributions. However, had the member become a spouse in June 2006 through marriage, then any surviving spouse’s pension would be based on the entire contributions record, resulting in a substantially greater widow’s or widower’s pension over that of a surviving civil partner’s. If that’s not a difference between the rights of civil partners and those of married people, then I don’t know what is.

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]]> By: jim jones http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38168 jim jones Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:29:30 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38168 To Tim Chapman... please point out precisely how UK civil partnerships give diifferent rights to marriage when it comes to pensions and 'entitlement' [not sure what entitlement you are refrirrng to].... Ta, Jim. To Tim Chapman… please point out precisely how UK civil partnerships give diifferent rights to marriage when it comes to pensions and 'entitlement' [not sure what entitlement you are refrirrng to]…. Ta, Jim.

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]]> By: Tim Chapman http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38146 Tim Chapman Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:37:57 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38146 Contrary to Ele Gir above, I say keep the quotes. They’re not married, they’re civil partners. If we refer to civil partnership as marriage without qualification, then everyone will reasonably assume it’s the same thing with the same rights as marriage. Unfortunately, most people don’t seem to realize that it doesn’t have the same rights, particularly when it comes to pensions entitlement, and we need to get that message across. We shoot ourselves in the foot if we just call it marriage and pretend it’s already equal, because then it never will be. Contrary to Ele Gir above, I say keep the quotes. They’re not married, they’re civil partners.

If we refer to civil partnership as marriage without qualification, then everyone will reasonably assume it’s the same thing with the same rights as marriage. Unfortunately, most people don’t seem to realize that it doesn’t have the same rights, particularly when it comes to pensions entitlement, and we need to get that message across. We shoot ourselves in the foot if we just call it marriage and pretend it’s already equal, because then it never will be.

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]]> By: flapjack http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38143 flapjack Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:39:27 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38143 Makes a refreshing change. Even after the cottaging incident and his "Lets go outside" vid shot in a men's toilet, George Michael was still making videos with female love interests, as if he was still open to suggestion. Ditto Will Young. Surely once you're out the closet, there's no point in pretending to be straight in your video. Or is this just overzealous managers concerned about how it affects record sales? Makes a refreshing change. Even after the cottaging incident and his "Lets go outside" vid shot in a men's toilet, George Michael was still making videos with female love interests, as if he was still open to suggestion. Ditto Will Young. Surely once you're out the closet, there's no point in pretending to be straight in your video. Or is this just overzealous managers concerned about how it affects record sales?

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]]> By: michael chapman http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38142 michael chapman Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:16:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38142 Actually, this is not the first time Boyzone have featured a gay couple in one of their vdeos. Have a look at the following link for 'You Needed Me (1999), at 1:08 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SyPkZXvdo7A It's only for a brief moment, but you get that the two men are a couple. Actually, this is not the first time Boyzone have featured a gay couple in one of their vdeos. Have a look at the following link for 'You Needed Me (1999), at 1:08 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SyPkZXvdo7A It's only for a brief moment, but you get that the two men are a couple.

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]]> By: joshua http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38132 joshua Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:11:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38132 excellent, can't wait to see the video! it was ridiculous when westlife were shown with their wives in the 'us against the world' video, but kevin mcdaid and mark feehily weren't shown. so wrong! excellent, can't wait to see the video! it was ridiculous when westlife were shown with their wives in the 'us against the world' video, but kevin mcdaid and mark feehily weren't shown. so wrong!

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]]> By: Peter Clifton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38102 Peter Clifton Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:40:25 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38102 A beautiful song and video. I suppose now there will be demands to withdraw it because of Gately and his "lover" A beautiful song and video. I suppose now there will be demands to withdraw it because of Gately and his "lover"

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]]> By: Paul http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38093 Paul Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:21:59 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38093 @Ivan - hopefully it's just a copyright issue; plenty of music videos get taken down after all. @Ivan – hopefully it's just a copyright issue; plenty of music videos get taken down after all.

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]]> By: Ivan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38086 Ivan Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:21:55 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38086 On a more disturbing note, one of the people commenting on You Tube says that Bebo has suspended their account for uploading this video. On a more disturbing note, one of the people commenting on You Tube says that Bebo has suspended their account for uploading this video.

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]]> By: Ele Gir http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38068 Ele Gir Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:18:47 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38068 Please don't put the word "married" in quote marks. They are married. Full stop no quotes. Don't pander to the bigots who insist we can't use "their" word. Please don't put the word "married" in quote marks. They are married. Full stop no quotes. Don't pander to the bigots who insist we can't use "their" word.

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]]> By: eddie http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38064 eddie Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:08:46 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38064 "Reformed boyband Boyzone.." How exactly does Pink News think their characters have been reformed? Have they all done time at Her Majesty's pleasure or been subject to an act of parliament?, have they renounced previous bad habits, or has another grammatical howler escaped the attentions of the editor. We can only presume they mean re-formed, as in formed again or anew. "Reformed boyband Boyzone.." How exactly does Pink News think their characters have been reformed?

Have they all done time at Her Majesty's pleasure or been subject to an act of parliament?, have they renounced previous bad habits, or has another grammatical howler escaped the attentions of the editor.

We can only presume they mean re-formed, as in formed again or anew.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38049 Mike Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:23:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38049 Well, sorry to inject a negative note, but there still seems to be much less of our Stephen than the others and he is being less explicit and demonstrative (ie no snogging)... of course he had to have a bloke,and even a record company couldn`t have stuffed him back into the closet, but they seems a bit less than enthusiastic.Shame. But great song and I like the black and white.... Well, sorry to inject a negative note, but there still seems to be much less of our Stephen than the others and he is being less explicit and demonstrative (ie no snogging)… of course he had to have a bloke,and even a record company couldn`t have stuffed him back into the closet, but they seems a bit less than enthusiastic.Shame. But great song and I like the black and white….

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]]> By: Graham http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38042 Graham Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:47:48 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38042 Well, I'm a soppy b*gger at the best of times, but loved this cover version, in oh so many ways! What a change to see two guys expressing love in a music video - at last! Well, I'm a soppy b*gger at the best of times, but loved this cover version, in oh so many ways! What a change to see two guys expressing love in a music video – at last!

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]]> By: The c*nt of Monte Crisco! http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38037 The c*nt of Monte Crisco! Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:21:43 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38037 I love that they've done this! It would be very silly to cast Stephen a female love interest because it would be so false. Everyone now knows he is gay so casting a male love interest is DEFINITELY a good step forward Nice to see you back lads :) I love that they've done this! It would be very silly to cast Stephen a female love interest because it would be so false. Everyone now knows he is gay so casting a male love interest is DEFINITELY a good step forward

Nice to see you back lads :)

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]]> By: David http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38033 David Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:37:06 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38033 Nice to see Nice to see

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]]> By: naomi http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9583.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38029 naomi Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:37:03 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9583#comment-38029 luv the video and song! luv the video and song!

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