I was referring to your average poof-in-the-street, who would more likely treat a child as a fashion accessory.

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Gay men are inherently selfish. That's a fact. They continually moan, whinge and whine about trivial matters, and expect to be treated as equals whilst bearing massive chips on their shoulders. I can see prissy queens mincing about saying "But WHY?? If I want to get pregnant I SHALL!!" The bottom line is I dont think gay men are anywhere near responsible enough to run a Tupperware party, let alone bring yet another bastard child into an unforgiving world.

Incidentally, I do not need therapy, I am not self loathing, I just despise people who's lot is never a happy one and they cannot accept what is good in their lives instead of habitually complaining about what they haven't got.

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Sorry to say, but I am one of those. And before the fatuous Ex-Brit Robert pipes up about my "Neo-Con" status – (whatever the f*ck that is) – Neither Gay men or Lesbians are capable alone of bringing a child into the world, and that is the ideal situation for a child is "one of each".

Before anyone starts bleating about *their* rights, get it right: You do NOT have the right to have a child. The only rights in any instance are those of the child itself, and the child alone. If you cannot provide the support, attention, care, love, money and complete overheads for someone for the next eighteen years of it's life, you are not fit to have children, irrespective of gender, sexuality, age, race, religion or status.

I am sure there are many gay people that could offer far more than a great deal of heterosexual ones, but that isn't the point. We are NOT equal, (in some cases we are superior), but when it comes to families, it requires an even balance. Whether you think you are equal in the world, there are many out there that think otherwise, and it's not fair to invoke your petty politics on a kid.
Simple as that.

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in Anonanon we have our own mildly-foul-mouthed troll.

As usual, these sad people haunt the outskirts of what they actually want to be part of shouting childish abuse.

Like all children, they get bored when one ignores them.

But keep readin Anonanon, you may learn something, and you may eventually have courage to look your own sexuality and shortcomings in the face

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I argue that no normal child is raised in a bubble by his or her parents, that there is input from grandparents, aunts, uncles, family friends, teachers etc. It really does take a village to raise a child.

Then there are those who say that they don't disagree with gay adoption per se, but if they had the option, a straight couple would be preferable. But I argue that flies in the face of the best interests of the child, as the natural assumption that a heterosexual couple is best for the child is not always correct.

For example, a child who has experianced abuse at the hands of male relatives would be better in a lesbian couple's care due to the fact that there would be no men living in the household and that the child can be gradually introduced to adult males to help his/her recovery. Or a gay teenager who is thrown out by his (heterosexual) parents, would much likely do better with gay or lesbian foster parents who would understand his/her situation better than a heterosexual couple.

The fact remains that these children are in care because of the neglect and/or abuse by heterosexual parents.

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We rarely have representations of gay men or lesbians being adoptive parents in the media. The only example I can think of is the American Queer as Folk series (which is very positive but hardly mainstream).

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