Comments on: Victory for Christians as McDonald's gives in over gay rights http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:20:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-75971 John Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:05:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-75971 CRIMINALISATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY!!! Yes thats what the AFA believe in. How could ANY company or individual,with an ounce of common sence, possibly deal or even listen to an organisation spouting such backward,homophobic beliefs? Shame on McD for bowing to these thugs! Just ripped up my McD discount vouchers!! McBoycott indeed! CRIMINALISATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY!!! Yes thats what the AFA believe in. How could ANY company or individual,with an ounce of common sence, possibly deal or even listen to an organisation spouting such backward,homophobic beliefs? Shame on McD for bowing to these thugs! Just ripped up my McD discount vouchers!! McBoycott indeed!

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]]> By: SteveMD2 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62027 SteveMD2 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:26:30 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-62027 encourage your homophobic christians to go to McDips--ts. Tell them they have won........... The battle to see who gets to poison themselves. encourage your homophobic christians to go to McDips–ts. Tell them they have won………..

The battle to see who gets to poison themselves.

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]]> By: bob http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42302 bob Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:13:34 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-42302 it doesnt matter if you are gay or not religion is stupid. it just shows how people or more obbesed about themselves then there kids that eat it. obesity is not going to solve anything. there are much more bigger problems going on. you big idoits!!!!! it doesnt matter if you are gay or not religion is stupid. it just shows how people or more obbesed about themselves then there kids that eat it. obesity is not going to solve anything. there are much more bigger problems going on. you big idoits!!!!!

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]]> By: wossname http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41392 wossname Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:14:19 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-41392 Berkley? "There is probably no God,now stop worrying and enjoy your life." Or in other words, get a grip! Berkley?
"There is probably no God,now stop worrying and enjoy your life." Or in other words, get a grip!

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]]> By: flapjack http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36241 flapjack Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:15:03 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36241 Berkley - "...Defaces the value of a family according to God"? WTF? If I interpret you correctly you are suggesting that gay people have vandalised a concept according to an entity who hasn't been proven to exist. Let me put it to you this way... you're still free to have a family in the narrow perameters within which you define it, I won't attempt to turn you or your wife or your son or your daughter gay. That is the big fundie myth. What I choose to do with my life is none of your business, and invoking God, Santa or the Easter Bunny to back up your lame arguments won't wash here. Show me evidence for the existance of god first, then we can talk about whether I listen to the despotic tyrant on high described in the Old Testament. As for what the USA was founded on, you may want to do some reasearch into Thomas Jefferson. The USA is NOT constitutionally founded on any religion. Berkley – "…Defaces the value of a family according to God"? WTF? If I interpret you correctly you are suggesting that gay people have vandalised a concept according to an entity who hasn't been proven to exist.
Let me put it to you this way… you're still free to have a family in the narrow perameters within which you define it, I won't attempt to turn you or your wife or your son or your daughter gay. That is the big fundie myth. What I choose to do with my life is none of your business, and invoking God, Santa or the Easter Bunny to back up your lame arguments won't wash here. Show me evidence for the existance of god first, then we can talk about whether I listen to the despotic tyrant on high described in the Old Testament. As for what the USA was founded on, you may want to do some reasearch into Thomas Jefferson. The USA is NOT constitutionally founded on any religion.

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]]> By: Chris http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36233 Chris Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:24:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36233 Newsflash, fundie trolls - the US was definitely not founded on the ten commandments or the Christian bible. It even says so flat out in a treaty signed by John Adams - "The United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." Is that clear enough, or do we need to get out the flashcards and finger puppets? Now back to the prayer closet with you. Piper Laurie's waiting. As for the boycott, I'll wait and see what Mickey D's has to say about it. The wingnuts at AFA have a history of claiming imaginary victories. (Remind us again how your little jihad against Disney went again, AFA... ha ha ha ha ha.) Considering their track record maybe they should stick to more productive things, like praying for rain on Obama's inauguration. Newsflash, fundie trolls – the US was definitely not founded on the ten commandments or the Christian bible. It even says so flat out in a treaty signed by John Adams – "The United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." Is that clear enough, or do we need to get out the flashcards and finger puppets? Now back to the prayer closet with you. Piper Laurie's waiting.

As for the boycott, I'll wait and see what Mickey D's has to say about it. The wingnuts at AFA have a history of claiming imaginary victories. (Remind us again how your little jihad against Disney went again, AFA… ha ha ha ha ha.) Considering their track record maybe they should stick to more productive things, like praying for rain on Obama's inauguration.

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]]> By: berkley http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36212 berkley Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:48:57 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36212 The USA was founded on the TEN COMMANDMENTS and Christian Bible! I am so glad that WE as CHRISTIANS are not being silent! I will continue to boycott any business that defaces the value of a family according to God. The USA was founded on the TEN COMMANDMENTS and Christian Bible! I am so glad that WE as CHRISTIANS are not being silent! I will continue to boycott any business that defaces the value of a family according to God.

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]]> By: apYrs http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36197 apYrs Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:06:27 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36197 as the recession bies the rednecks will be squeezed and stop eating out so much. Then McD's will want the young gay crowd, and may even try to encourage them. Let's hope no-one's fooled. as the recession bies the rednecks will be squeezed and stop eating out so much.

Then McD's will want the young gay crowd, and may even try to encourage them. Let's hope no-one's fooled.

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]]> By: Vo Dong Cung http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36193 Vo Dong Cung Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:04:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36193 Most of Christian don't know about the crime inside the Tops of Roman Catholic so they think none are good but only themself. Why don't we caryy to the public the picture of Pope John XXIII with fyll describe the way of his life. Most of Christian don't know about the crime inside the Tops of Roman Catholic so they think none are good but only themself. Why don't we caryy to the public the picture of Pope John XXIII with fyll describe the way of his life.

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]]> By: Cal http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36192 Cal Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:53:17 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36192 The AFA will definitely come up in the Gay Rights module of the 2048-'49 AS History course. And they won't be treated with the weird quasi-respect they seem to be getting right now. The horrible phrase "[however many million people] can't be wrong" is being used to threaten and restrict people outside the cushy boundaries of hardline religious zealotry, and it's bloody scary. The AFA will definitely come up in the Gay Rights module of the 2048-'49 AS History course. And they won't be treated with the weird quasi-respect they seem to be getting right now. The horrible phrase "[however many million people] can't be wrong" is being used to threaten and restrict people outside the cushy boundaries of hardline religious zealotry, and it's bloody scary.

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]]> By: Bill Perdue http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36188 Bill Perdue Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:25:39 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36188 McBoycott. McBoycott.

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]]> By: wossname http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36178 wossname Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:26:08 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36178 Move over Heinz, looks like you've got a new bedmate! Move over Heinz, looks like you've got a new bedmate!

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]]> By: flapjack http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36173 flapjack Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:08:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36173 Actually Edward in Los angeles makes a salient point - since when did the postmodern condition decree that we all have to hold corporations up as our moral guardians? The law of economics is a moral vacuum, where money is the bottom line. So long as McDonalds is not actively engaged in homophobic policies or rhetoric their opinion on gay rights should be as irrelevent as my opinion on quantum physics. It's only because we're suckered in by the supposed ethos of companies who marry their product to an unrelated world issue as Benetton famously did with its "United Colours" campain that this kind of lobbying and power politics takes place. After all, what has burger preference got to do with gay rights or lack thereof? McDonalds should leave the politics to the politicians and the public should vote with their feet if you don't like the burgers, that would be the best way of preventing this kind of fiasco. Actually Edward in Los angeles makes a salient point – since when did the postmodern condition decree that we all have to hold corporations up as our moral guardians? The law of economics is a moral vacuum, where money is the bottom line. So long as McDonalds is not actively engaged in homophobic policies or rhetoric their opinion on gay rights should be as irrelevent as my opinion on quantum physics.
It's only because we're suckered in by the supposed ethos of companies who marry their product to an unrelated world issue as Benetton famously did with its "United Colours" campain that this kind of lobbying and power politics takes place. After all, what has burger preference got to do with gay rights or lack thereof?
McDonalds should leave the politics to the politicians and the public should vote with their feet if you don't like the burgers, that would be the best way of preventing this kind of fiasco.

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]]> By: john wilfred sharp http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36162 john wilfred sharp Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:20:07 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36162 this kind of food should not be eaten i any given quantity any how. let the Christians stuff their kids with it and make them OBESE. then they can pray for them .religions is greasy and stinks . Bon appetit this kind of food should not be eaten i any given quantity any how.
let the Christians stuff their kids with it and make them OBESE.
then they can pray for them .religions is greasy and stinks .
Bon appetit

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]]> By: Matt B http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36156 Matt B Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:54:06 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36156 McDonalds Restraunts Ltd 11-59 High Road East Finchley London N2 8AW To whom it may concern, I read with horror the news that you have bowed to the American Family Association (http://www.afa.net/endmcdonaldsboycott.htm) an organisation that seeks to maintain the traditional hatred society has demonstrated towards homosexual men and women. Every day we hear of more gay people being murdered just for being gay. We also hear of self-harm inflicted by vulnerable people as a result of just this sort of hate ministry, so I am disappointed that you as a corporation are so publicly indifferent to our fate. As a gay man, I have personally lived through years of persecution, and your decision has given my persecutors more ammunition and enabled them to justify their continued persecution of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people. I am not looking for special rights, but I feel I have the right to life and consequently feel threatened by organisations such as the American Family Association, whose stated aim is my relegation to a second class citizen. The logical conclusion of such fascism is the gas chamber, which has happened to us before. Therefore, since you have condoned the American Family Association’s despicable attack on my liberty by withdrawing from the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, I can no longer buy your food. Yours truly, McDonalds Restraunts Ltd
11-59 High Road
East Finchley
London
N2 8AW

To whom it may concern,

I read with horror the news that you have bowed to the American Family Association (http://www.afa.net/endmcdonaldsboycott.htm) an organisation that seeks to maintain the traditional hatred society has demonstrated towards homosexual men and women.

Every day we hear of more gay people being murdered just for being gay. We also hear of self-harm inflicted by vulnerable people as a result of just this sort of hate ministry, so I am disappointed that you as a corporation are so publicly indifferent to our fate.

As a gay man, I have personally lived through years of persecution, and your decision has given my persecutors more ammunition and enabled them to justify their continued persecution of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people.

I am not looking for special rights, but I feel I have the right to life and consequently feel threatened by organisations such as the American Family Association, whose stated aim is my relegation to a second class citizen. The logical conclusion of such fascism is the gas chamber, which has happened to us before.

Therefore, since you have condoned the American Family Association’s despicable attack on my liberty by withdrawing from the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, I can no longer buy your food.

Yours truly,

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]]> By: Sam http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36145 Sam Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:49:58 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36145 They "only" have 3.5 mio members?? That's the problem with us - we need to be better organized. 3.5 mio would be so easy to top! We couldn't just threaten companies that are attacked by the AFA but maybe also those that are currently misbehaving and get them to be nicer to us. I can dream, can't I...? Then again, it only shows again: those AFA folks have way too much time on their hands for engaging in such an outlet that apperently is able to distract them from their personal, screwed-up lives. Why else would you have such hate? They "only" have 3.5 mio members?? That's the problem with us – we need to be better organized. 3.5 mio would be so easy to top! We couldn't just threaten companies that are attacked by the AFA but maybe also those that are currently misbehaving and get them to be nicer to us.
I can dream, can't I…?
Then again, it only shows again: those AFA folks have way too much time on their hands for engaging in such an outlet that apperently is able to distract them from their personal, screwed-up lives. Why else would you have such hate?

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]]> By: clinjas http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36141 clinjas Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:46:22 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36141 today i had lunch in one of their restaurants. Last time, full stop. If only all gays and lesbians acted like i do... today i had lunch in one of their restaurants. Last time, full stop. If only all gays and lesbians acted like i do…

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]]> By: Mary Flying Eagle Ray http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36140 Mary Flying Eagle Ray Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:37:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36140 As I made prayers this beautiful A.M, A vision came to me. A day of reckoning is on it's way, laying bare the true colors of so called (christians???)hiding behind their version of the bible, teaching, preaching hate. Thank you McDonalds for your support in knowing "Gay Rights, is Rights for all." Not that long ago these same hate mongers would have done the same,should "the golden arches" have stepped "UP" in any way for the rights/freedom fight for blacks. My prayer/hope the golden arches will reconsiderand refuse. May We All Walk in Beauty Mary Flying Eagle Ray As I made prayers this beautiful A.M, A vision came to me.
A day of reckoning is on it's way, laying bare the true colors
of so called (christians???)hiding behind their version of the
bible, teaching, preaching hate.
Thank you McDonalds for your support in knowing "Gay Rights, is Rights
for all." Not that long ago these same hate mongers would have
done the same,should "the golden arches" have stepped "UP" in any
way for the rights/freedom fight for blacks.
My prayer/hope the golden arches will reconsiderand refuse.
May We All Walk in Beauty
Mary Flying Eagle Ray

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36124 Simon Murphy Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:06:46 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36124 Good news. It doesn't do the gay cause any good to be associated with promoters of obesity and poor health like McDonalds. No-one should eat the rubbish they make (apart from 'christians' of course) Good news. It doesn't do the gay cause any good to be associated with promoters of obesity and poor health like McDonalds. No-one should eat the rubbish they make (apart from 'christians' of course)

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]]> By: Edward in Los Angeles http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9262.html/comment-page-1/#comment-36121 Edward in Los Angeles Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:35:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=9262#comment-36121 It's not restaurants, even corporate behemoths, that dictate gay rights. It's the Constitution of the United States. Why do you think so many Republicans want to chisel away at the Constitution? Because it's a thorn in their side when it comes to their agenda of denying people equal rights. The Constitution will always prevail in a court of law and slowly but surely, gay people will gain equal rights as INTERPRETED by the Constitution - not by McDonald's. The constitution, in my opinion, is our best friend and staunchest ally. It's a glorious document. And while I'm on the subject of allies, let's remember too that it's not always the religious right that work against equal rights. The Supreme Court judge, Chief Justice Ronald M. George, who gave the majority opinion on gay marriages in California is a moderate Republican - yet one of the female justices who dissented in the ruling...is a lesbian. Perhaps she's a Big Mac-aholic? It's not restaurants, even corporate behemoths, that dictate gay rights. It's the Constitution of the United States. Why do you think so many Republicans want to chisel away at the Constitution? Because it's a thorn in their side when it comes to their agenda of denying people equal rights. The Constitution will always prevail in a court of law and slowly but surely, gay people will gain equal rights as INTERPRETED by the Constitution – not by McDonald's. The constitution, in my opinion, is our best friend and staunchest ally. It's a glorious document. And while I'm on the subject of allies, let's remember too that it's not always the religious right that work against equal rights. The Supreme Court judge, Chief Justice Ronald M. George, who gave the majority opinion on gay marriages in California is a moderate Republican – yet one of the female justices who dissented in the ruling…is a lesbian. Perhaps she's a Big Mac-aholic?

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