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Sadly, I've discovered that only one of these gang members was ever charged: a 16 year old with an IQ of 56. All the others seem to have gotten off scot-free. Insult to injury, it seems.

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Actually don't both. All your petty little Trotzky ranting do is detract from the real issue here that this poor young guy and a number of others before him have been let down appallingly by those in a position of responsibility who should have ensured that the streets of Hackney were safe for gay, straight, black, white, British or otherwise to walk the streets at night and they have failed to do so.

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you are the one asking for enforced, aggressive punishment and 'treatment' so please don't turn it round and claim other people are the aggressors.

Your way to end aggression is to dish it out. Can't you see there is a problem there?

Oh and if one more person links the BNP and the Tory party without proving the link then I might end up voting for them to spite you.

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However any fair minded GLBT activist, and that excludes Tory Johnny-one-note shills like you, has to conclude that that Labour and the Lib Dems have done a lot for us from repealing your bigoted Section 28 to recently banning hate speech, which you, naturally, opposed. Where Labour has betrayed us is on the question of asylum, which naturally is the only question you agree with them about. Their asylum policy is homophobic and xenophobic, a perfect combination for a Tory.

However, whatever progress has been made is negated by these rightwing cult attacks, beatings and murders. I don't know the figures or trends in the murder of immigrant youth and GLBT youth, but they seem to be on the upswing. I do know that the typically Tory reaction of Ron Neal, who wants to see immigrant youth "hung from the nearest lamp post for all to see" are the politics of a racist pig. That's why I condemned them, and rightly so. Naturally you'd never dream of doing the same, becasue you and your party pander to racsim, inflame it, and then when someone gets killed wring you hands and mutter, "Oh my, those violence prone immigrants> What did you expect?"

The imams and the catholic bishops do the same when one of us is murdered. They "regret it" but add "after all "their chosen lifestyle is very dangerous".

This ongoing problem of aggressive beatings and murders of GLBT youth and immigrant youth, although you deny it every time they happen, are political and directly related to the shrill and increasing levels of homobigotry and racism emanating from cult leaders and from right wing political groups, such as the one you shill for.

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“Hard labor for 16 hours a day for life should be imposed ….” and “…. these swine are being treated with an involuntary, robust regimen of medically supervised treatment with anti-psychotics and tranquilizers ….”

Only two paragraphs later you are accusing someone else of spreading right-wing garbage.

Since you insist on politicising even the horrific injuries imposed on this poor kid, the area where this happened is Labour controlled in a country with a Labour government. The Tories don’t even get a look in.

We should be asking why those Labour councillors have not done more to ensure adequate resources have not been tasked to address the spiralling violence towards gay people in the area. It is well with their gift to do so and they have regular access to the crime stats in the area through the SNT ward panel meetings that they SHOULD be regularly attending if nowhere else.

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If the law rejects execution in favor of long prison sentences for racist and homobigoted violence then the prison time has to be useful. Hard labor for 16 hours a day for life should be imposed to create a fund to compensate their victims. We need public reassurance that these swine are being treated with an involuntary, robust regimen of medically supervised treatment with anti-psychotics and tranquilizers.

The law should include a provision that persons who advocate racist and homophobic violence be charged as co-conspirators with the thugs who do the violence. That would take a lot of christist and islamist cult leaders and a even more racists off the streets.

Unfortunately those laws wouldn’t do much to shut up racists and xenophobes like Ron Neal. His type, which infests the BNP and the Tories, are scheming and as a rule far too cowardly to openly advocate violence. Nevertheless you can read his cackling glee in spreading right wing racist garbage in every comment he makes.

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Also I think you must mean '15 months in Dec' surely?

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You must have been sloping off with the boys round the back of the bike sheds when they discussed Logic and morality in class. I'll run it past you, it's realy quite simple:

1. Murder is wrong.
2. If murder is wrong then state Murder is wrong.

Now we've got that out of the way can we get on with the a to z?

Gerry: I appreciate your anger but you won't cure institutionalized homophobia by locking up a few Queer Bashers and throwing the keys away. What about asking what sort of society raises Kids who want to go out and kill in the name of defending their own masculinities? Unless we ask serious questions about our society this will happen again and again.

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Youths up to the Age of 16 in Britain have had no deterrents from crime until about 4 years ago, when ASBOs, (Anti-social Behaviour Orders) were introduced. Prior to that, they were running around like feral animals. Even now, a youth under the age of 16 convicted of murder will not be thrown in to jail, but will end up in a "secure unit", which costs about £700 a day, and are cushy "hotels" where all the molly-coddling psychologist profession and their social worker lackies bound by law and government policy to treat the Young Criminal as a "Victim", one who should be granted a blank slate when they become an adult!

This story is a tragic confirmation of how Britain's Social, Political, Government, Police and Criminal Justice Systems still continue to fail to protect its law-abiding citizens from youth crime.

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