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And yes, Nicholas Russel, it isn't often that your own running mate in an election will be so disgusted with your conduct that he or she will stand up in court and testify for the prosecution. Undoubtedly a reflection of just how disgusting her behavious was, thank you for highlighting that point I overlooked.

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David Cameron: "One Legged Lithuanian Lesbians"? Oct/Nov 2007

IDS: comparing planned lesbian parenthood with unplanned teenage pregnancies May 2008

Section 28 repealed as a result of a Private Members Bill from a Labour MP not a Labour Govt, the welfare of young people and LGBT families subject to the whims of a parliamentary lottery despite clear manifesto commitments by Labour and despite clear evidence of the suffering of LGBT people and families. Section 28 gone but effects continue in schools and beyond…

16 yr old boy had to take the British Govt to court to get an Equal Age of Consent from Labour and Jackie Smith still hasn't given Iranian lesbian Pegah Emambakhsh asylum despite the clear dangers of her being deported home… and Gordon doesn't seem to have it too high on his agenda if he can't stir himself to turn up to Equality votes

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What a crass and ignorant comment. You go on about being broad minded and then you come out with such hatred, you should ba ashamed of yourself.

You should look at some of the Catholic Labour MPs like Ruth Kelly and Geraldine Smith et al. See what they have to say about gay adoption and about gay rights.

I am a Tory but I do not have such a blinkered view of the world as some people who support Labour do on here. There are people in all parties who exploit the gay card at one time (remember Simon Hughe's Lib Dem by-election campaign against Tatchell 'the straight choice' and all that) and there are also people in every party who have differeing views on homosexuality.

Section 28 was wrongly applied and sent out the wrong message to the gay community. The best thing the gay community can do to be 'accepted' is to stop naval gazing about the past and start looking at those problems that affect ALL communities.

House prices crashing, repossesions up, the gap between the rich and poor higher than ever, youth unemployment higher than it was in 1997, the gap between the top and bottom perfoming schools widening, the tax burden rising, inflation rising, unemployment rising, social mobility declining – need I go on!

That is the record of the last ten years of Labour, that is a record than impacts on us all, lets talk about those issues not obsess about the views of a few dinosaur politicians who belong to the history books.

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However in the case of Miranda Grell the LABOUR councillor, and researcher for Nicky Gavron, lap dog of the now defunct Red Ken, there was no suspension from the party or removal after she was convicted in the counts of making false statements having been caught accusing a fellow candidate of being a paedophile and forcing him and his long term partner to flee London in fear of their lives.

Perhaps, wossname, you could talk us through her dismissal from the Labour Party when the initial allegations were made? No? What about after she was convicted of a horrible crime against her poor gay opponent? No? What about when she subsequently lost here appeal again convicted (which incidentally is rumoured to have been funded by the Labour Party)? No? Might that be because despite having her day in court twice and having lost on both occasions she neither resigned or was sacked.

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and proving that the left have never had a monopoly on gay votes – the fact is that they didn't deserve them

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The list of gay Tories is legend – From Harvey Proctor to Ivan Massow there's always been a Conservative tenancy in the gay world – now they are coming out 'cos some of the noises made by their party are more friendly, and since society has changed attitudes more recently the Tories are moving too. But to believe they've moved all the way too being friendly – well there are still two camps in the party read Lord Tebbit and say there's no problem any more!

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The Conservatives real politics are based on their fear of the social evolution of the GLBT communities, It's is a body blow to traditional society, the preservation of wealth through patriarchal marriage and the rancid practice of the rich and their managers of discrimintory underpaymet of wages for minorities, GLBT folk and women.

Their constant refrain is that the Conservatives have done no harm for years. But that’s only because they’ve been out of power for years. Story after story in PinkNews details incident after incident of closeted and hetero Conservatives expressing their internalized homophobia or bigotry. Story after story exposes Tory opposition to lesbian/feminist birth rights, anti-hate speech legislation, same sex marriage and the robust enforcement of anti-discrimination and anti-hate speech laws.

Nancy Platts, of the Labour party hit the nail on the head when she said:

If the Tories want gay and lesbian people to vote for them in elections, they should vote for gay and lesbian rights in Parliament.

They haven’t changed any more than a chameleon changes.

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"I think that the Right was wrong to get hung up on homosexuality," Gove said, "I think we indulged prejudice in the eighties and missed the point. It's not gay men who're abusing women and abandoning children – its straight men. And the demand for civil partnerships, proper inheritance rights and equality in adoption rights from gay couples is not a rejection of commitment but a desire to see commitment celebrated and publicly embraced. It is right and moral."

Tebbit rejects that argument, but is a fossil, not even a living dinosaur in terms of current Tory policy.

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The EU is only now looking at Goods and Services Legislation for example, and have still not passed it, and it is highly controversial since we have allowed members to join like Poland with their government's attitude to LGBT rights to join the EU. Check this for just one story GAY EU

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Just because Boris made a cheap publicity stunt does not erase his written record of his opinions. Now opinions may change, and I sure hope HIS have! But one float does not a U turn make. Remember the age of consent vote? The equality vote?

While Labour's record on gay rights is not good, at least they did not allow religious exemption from the equality bill. This is quite a new thing, since the tories exempted religions from the working time regulations in 1992.

It is not simply gay rights where the tories have badly served us; the last time they were entrusted with the economy there was a depression (soundbit into 'recession' in 1992-4).

Also, they had a distressing habit of breaking the law, and not just the odd member, but many of them (who springs to mind? Hamilton, Aitken, Archer? That is just the ones who got caught!), treating us like idiots, much like you smug tories are doing on this comment board.

I'm glad your world has moved on from the 1980s, Sister Mary Clarence, it could have been a wonderful decade had we not been ruled by c##ts, but as you say we can not live under such a vile regime as then! As for me, I have enjoyed the economic security that the Tories denied low income earners. I did move on; I moved to Labour, and no one has convinced me to move back!

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With regard to the current at which we are standing, a bit of money in the bank would have cushioned the blow as it is the economy is going to hit the ground hard and fast with the government having little of no ability to reduce the impact. The Tories have been banging on about a rainy days for at least the last two years. Well its about to piss down and there's an awful lot of people going to we totally f**ked over.

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Since 1997 gays can serve in Military, Section 28 gone, reduction in age of consent to 16 (opposed in House of Lords by Tories so that Parliament Act had to be invoked!) opposition to Adoption from Tories but brought in by Labour, before Civil Partnerships Labour brought in visas for gay partners from abroad, then yes Europe brought in rights at work, but just work and yes Labour did bring that through to domestic law, but it was Labour that brought in Civil Partnerships and then rights for Goods and Services and those things still don't exist in European Law and your Pension Rights are part of the Civil partnerships equivalence cos the European Work rights exclude that.

Not a bad record for Labour – and you might say that the Tories would have done that if they'd been in power since 1997 but they didn't before, and you might say that Tories have better economic sense – well not the evidence actually and this current position… think that's the fault of the banks and the global economy and is going to get a lot worse before it gets better (if it ever does) regardless of who's in power in the UK. But regardless of that the plain facts are in Gay rights terms the Tories could have done good for gays, but did bad, and the Labour did good.

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