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	<title>Comments on: Pride London reveal more details about trans toilet incident</title>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-8331.html/comment-page-1/#comment-35329</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>N.B. We are getting distracted now from the most unfortunate event of that day. As a result of being denied access to the ladies&#039; loos by the security staff, a trans woman was sexually assaulted in the men&#039;s toilets. This is one of the two &#039;criminal offenses&#039; which Commander Allen&#039;s team is investigating.

Now that the facts have been ascertained about the peaceful demonstration by the trans protesters, we should focus on what is being done to bring the attacker to justice and to help the poor trans woman who was unnecessarily assaulted as a consequence of this misguided policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N.B. We are getting distracted now from the most unfortunate event of that day. As a result of being denied access to the ladies' loos by the security staff, a trans woman was sexually assaulted in the men's toilets. This is one of the two 'criminal offenses' which Commander Allen's team is investigating.</p>
<p>Now that the facts have been ascertained about the peaceful demonstration by the trans protesters, we should focus on what is being done to bring the attacker to justice and to help the poor trans woman who was unnecessarily assaulted as a consequence of this misguided policy.
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that this article has been updated on 16th September to include more material from the first statements by the Met Police and Pride.  Unfortunately, the article still contains the untrue suggestion (apparently from Pride - according to this article) that &quot;the steward at the toilets was barged and pushed up against a wall, and inappropriate language was used.&quot;  As the subsequent investigation by Commander Steve Allen of the Met Police showed, the trans protesters DID NOT push the security guard.  Furthermore, the &#039;inappropriate language&#039; was used by the security guard, who called the trans protesters &quot;a bunch of trannies&quot;.  The trans people present asked for an apology and it was given freely by the security guard and witnessed by the police liaison officer.

Please see the later article published by Pink News, quoting from Commander Allen&#039;s second statement, which sets the record straight:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9005.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that this article has been updated on 16th September to include more material from the first statements by the Met Police and Pride.  Unfortunately, the article still contains the untrue suggestion (apparently from Pride &#8211; according to this article) that "the steward at the toilets was barged and pushed up against a wall, and inappropriate language was used."  As the subsequent investigation by Commander Steve Allen of the Met Police showed, the trans protesters DID NOT push the security guard.  Furthermore, the 'inappropriate language' was used by the security guard, who called the trans protesters "a bunch of trannies".  The trans people present asked for an apology and it was given freely by the security guard and witnessed by the police liaison officer.</p>
<p>Please see the later article published by Pink News, quoting from Commander Allen's second statement, which sets the record straight:<br />
<a href="http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9005.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9005.html</a>
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		<title>By: Jim Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done pink news!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Pink News for publishing a welcome update now...
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9005.html

And well done, also, for reinstating the &#039;deleted&#039; comments above.

Is there some way of linking the three articles?  At the moment the new article stands alone and is not linked in the &#039;related articles&#039; section at the bottom of the page...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Pink News for publishing a welcome update now&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9005.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9005.html</a></p>
<p>And well done, also, for reinstating the 'deleted' comments above.</p>
<p>Is there some way of linking the three articles?  At the moment the new article stands alone and is not linked in the 'related articles' section at the bottom of the page&#8230;
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		<title>By: Kate Bygrave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Bygrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This report has been shown to be erroneous and therefore should either be updated or removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This report has been shown to be erroneous and therefore should either be updated or removed.
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody barged in to the loos and pushed anybody up against a wall. The police will confirm this. Get your story straight Pink News!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody barged in to the loos and pushed anybody up against a wall. The police will confirm this. Get your story straight Pink News!
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody barged into the loos and pushed anybody up against a wall.
The police will confirm this. Please get your story straight and please stop sensationally portraying transwomen as violent!
Erin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody barged into the loos and pushed anybody up against a wall.<br />
The police will confirm this. Please get your story straight and please stop sensationally portraying transwomen as violent!<br />
Erin
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		<title>By: Sarah Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Met Police gave a second statement that clearly contradicts this report. The trans protestors did NOT turn violent or abusive. Therefore, I can only conclude from Pink News&#039; version of events that transphobia is rife at your newspaper. This is disgusting and you should publish another story apologising for lying to all your readers. You are basically encouraging discrimination against trans people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Met Police gave a second statement that clearly contradicts this report. The trans protestors did NOT turn violent or abusive. Therefore, I can only conclude from Pink News' version of events that transphobia is rife at your newspaper. This is disgusting and you should publish another story apologising for lying to all your readers. You are basically encouraging discrimination against trans people.
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		<title>By: Jim Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this was a story in a mainstream newspaper, that (for example) gay people had caused trouble at pride, then you&#039;d be all over it as soon as it was found to be false, demanding a retraction...

...don&#039;t Trans people deserve the same rights and protection??

Isn&#039;t is supposed to be lgb&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;??

If you don&#039;t set the record straight, then remember every time something ludicrous has been said about gay people in the media - think of what you thought of that journalist&#039;s honour and integrity - and then realise that people are thinking it of you...

It would take no effort for you to write a correction and it would stop the feeling that straight people like me are developing - that a lot of the gay community are transphobic - which is a terrible thing.

Please restore my faith and do what is right...

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this was a story in a mainstream newspaper, that (for example) gay people had caused trouble at pride, then you'd be all over it as soon as it was found to be false, demanding a retraction&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;don't Trans people deserve the same rights and protection??</p>
<p>Isn't is supposed to be lgb<b>T</b>??</p>
<p>If you don't set the record straight, then remember every time something ludicrous has been said about gay people in the media &#8211; think of what you thought of that journalist's honour and integrity &#8211; and then realise that people are thinking it of you&#8230;</p>
<p>It would take no effort for you to write a correction and it would stop the feeling that straight people like me are developing &#8211; that a lot of the gay community are transphobic &#8211; which is a terrible thing.</p>
<p>Please restore my faith and do what is right&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks.
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		<title>By: Eileen Gunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen Gunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A correction/update to the story would be a responsible way for Pink News to set the record straight, and a welcome demonstration of journalistic professionalism. The truth is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A correction/update to the story would be a responsible way for Pink News to set the record straight, and a welcome demonstration of journalistic professionalism. The truth is important.
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		<title>By: Sophie Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on PP, prove to us in the trans community that you yourselves are not transphobic by printing a retraction. It&#039;ll be good for your souls.

Sophie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on PP, prove to us in the trans community that you yourselves are not transphobic by printing a retraction. It'll be good for your souls.</p>
<p>Sophie.
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		<title>By: Sophie Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on PP, prove to us in the trans community that you yourselves are not transphobic by printing a retraction. It will be good for your souls.

Sophie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on PP, prove to us in the trans community that you yourselves are not transphobic by printing a retraction. It will be good for your souls.</p>
<p>Sophie.
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		<title>By: Jayna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually there was no violence. You should issue a retraction as, since more light has been brought upon the incident, that was seen as false. I think journalistic integrity and the reputation of a small, disenfranchised community require such an act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually there was no violence. You should issue a retraction as, since more light has been brought upon the incident, that was seen as false. I think journalistic integrity and the reputation of a small, disenfranchised community require such an act.
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that, Sandra.
What was in your and others&#039; comments that they had to be removed?

Christina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, Sandra.<br />
What was in your and others' comments that they had to be removed?</p>
<p>Christina
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		<title>By: Lizzie Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lizzie Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a shame that this report still stands when the parties involved have cleared stated the inaccuracy of it.  To leave the article standing is to falsely accuse people of violence, for no reason other than to stir up hatred and fear.  Come on people, haven&#039;t we had enough of this kind of bigotry being used against us, without using it against each other in this way?  We&#039;re one community; we need to stick together in this.  

Please correct the article, and publish a retraction.  If it was one of your reporters falsely accused of violence, you&#039;d have done it already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a shame that this report still stands when the parties involved have cleared stated the inaccuracy of it.  To leave the article standing is to falsely accuse people of violence, for no reason other than to stir up hatred and fear.  Come on people, haven't we had enough of this kind of bigotry being used against us, without using it against each other in this way?  We're one community; we need to stick together in this.  </p>
<p>Please correct the article, and publish a retraction.  If it was one of your reporters falsely accused of violence, you'd have done it already.
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment was also removed from last night, as were several other people&#039;s comments. That is not very good.

Again thank you for the link christina. I will check facebook out, it is something i have not used.

I suggested in response to another post that perhaps the CCTV footage could be made public so we can see that nothing happened. That maybe the best approach to this and then we would have closure?

Sandra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment was also removed from last night, as were several other people's comments. That is not very good.</p>
<p>Again thank you for the link christina. I will check facebook out, it is something i have not used.</p>
<p>I suggested in response to another post that perhaps the CCTV footage could be made public so we can see that nothing happened. That maybe the best approach to this and then we would have closure?</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pink news should print an update to correct their earlier article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pink news should print an update to correct their earlier article.
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had my later comment taken away too. Why are comments being removed?

I suggested that the CCTV should be seen. Why was that comment deemed bad?

Sandra</description>
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<p>I suggested that the CCTV should be seen. Why was that comment deemed bad?</p>
<p>Sandra
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		<title>By: Jenny Sand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny Sand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since later statements from the Met totally clears the trans prostesters of any wrongdoing or violence, it is a shame that Pink News hasn&#039;t yet issued a correction and an apology to the protesters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since later statements from the Met totally clears the trans prostesters of any wrongdoing or violence, it is a shame that Pink News hasn't yet issued a correction and an apology to the protesters.
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sets the record straight...a letter from the Met Police...

Steve Allen
Commander,
City of Westminster


8th August 2008


On Tuesday evening, 29th July, I together with other MPS colleagues, met with a number of people from the transgender communities in an open meeting in Westminster. This meeting came about as a consequence of events during Pride celebrations on 5 July.

The meeting generated a lively and helpful discussion about a range of issues covering the relevant incidents and wider issues of trust and confidence between the police and trans people. There were a number of areas talked about where I believe the MPS can now make further progress as a result.

The point was made, a number of times during the evening, about the need for us all to listen to and learn from each other.

Part of the learning has been about the impact on the trans communities of early responses from the MPS. In particular, it is clear that my &quot;open letter&quot; had a very different impact from the one I intended. My intention was to provide reassurance that a senior officer had taken ownership and was determined to learn the organisational lessons that would undoubtedly emerge.

I offer my personal and sincerest apology that my letter did not have the effect I had intended and upon closer reflection I can see why this caused deep upset to some of the trans communities. It was never my intention to suggest that my officer&#039;s actions would not be investigated or that there would be no need to offer advice and improved training to him and his colleagues.

It is clear that members of the trans communities and the officer found themselves involved in a set of circumstances for which the trans communities were not responsible. They were clearly the victims. It has been claimed that the demonstrators assaulted stewards - examination of CCTV evidence demonstrates that these claims are mistaken. Despite the best endeavours and intentions of the officer, these obviously came across in a way, which caused misinterpretation, confusion and hurt.

I hope that the response of the MPS speaks more loudly than my initial choice of words. We have taken ownership of the issues at a very senior level; we have circulated advice about the GRA to our officers; we have resolved the complaint against the police officer to the satisfaction of the party involved and continue to investigate with full vigour a number of criminal offences connected with these events. We have also, of course, held an open meeting to maintain dialogue with the community.

I have asked the Diversity and Citizen Focus Directorate to hold a de-brief of these events with MPS practitioners to ensure we get the maximum learning from them. I know that a significant issue to be taken forward is the raising of awareness and training of our staff and the Diversity &amp; Citizen Focus Directorate are now looking at options that further expand our developing partnerships with our transgender support associations who can assist us with our continued learning of this complex arena of diversity.

We have to start from where we are, not where we would like to be. Mistakes have been made and I and certainly my colleagues within the Diversity and Citizen Focus Directorate are aware of the disappointment and anxieties the trans communities have felt over this highly regrettable incident. We have for some years striven to understand the many issues, which beset the trans communities and in so many ways we have succeeded in listening and responding.

Obviously the MPS has let you down on this occasion for which we have to double our efforts to repair and restore the much needed trust and confidence which can enable us to progress these issues in order to deliver very real and meaningful change.

Regards

Steve Allen
Commander</description>
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<p>Steve Allen<br />
Commander,<br />
City of Westminster</p>
<p>8th August 2008</p>
<p>On Tuesday evening, 29th July, I together with other MPS colleagues, met with a number of people from the transgender communities in an open meeting in Westminster. This meeting came about as a consequence of events during Pride celebrations on 5 July.</p>
<p>The meeting generated a lively and helpful discussion about a range of issues covering the relevant incidents and wider issues of trust and confidence between the police and trans people. There were a number of areas talked about where I believe the MPS can now make further progress as a result.</p>
<p>The point was made, a number of times during the evening, about the need for us all to listen to and learn from each other.</p>
<p>Part of the learning has been about the impact on the trans communities of early responses from the MPS. In particular, it is clear that my "open letter" had a very different impact from the one I intended. My intention was to provide reassurance that a senior officer had taken ownership and was determined to learn the organisational lessons that would undoubtedly emerge.</p>
<p>I offer my personal and sincerest apology that my letter did not have the effect I had intended and upon closer reflection I can see why this caused deep upset to some of the trans communities. It was never my intention to suggest that my officer's actions would not be investigated or that there would be no need to offer advice and improved training to him and his colleagues.</p>
<p>It is clear that members of the trans communities and the officer found themselves involved in a set of circumstances for which the trans communities were not responsible. They were clearly the victims. It has been claimed that the demonstrators assaulted stewards &#8211; examination of CCTV evidence demonstrates that these claims are mistaken. Despite the best endeavours and intentions of the officer, these obviously came across in a way, which caused misinterpretation, confusion and hurt.</p>
<p>I hope that the response of the MPS speaks more loudly than my initial choice of words. We have taken ownership of the issues at a very senior level; we have circulated advice about the GRA to our officers; we have resolved the complaint against the police officer to the satisfaction of the party involved and continue to investigate with full vigour a number of criminal offences connected with these events. We have also, of course, held an open meeting to maintain dialogue with the community.</p>
<p>I have asked the Diversity and Citizen Focus Directorate to hold a de-brief of these events with MPS practitioners to ensure we get the maximum learning from them. I know that a significant issue to be taken forward is the raising of awareness and training of our staff and the Diversity &amp; Citizen Focus Directorate are now looking at options that further expand our developing partnerships with our transgender support associations who can assist us with our continued learning of this complex arena of diversity.</p>
<p>We have to start from where we are, not where we would like to be. Mistakes have been made and I and certainly my colleagues within the Diversity and Citizen Focus Directorate are aware of the disappointment and anxieties the trans communities have felt over this highly regrettable incident. We have for some years striven to understand the many issues, which beset the trans communities and in so many ways we have succeeded in listening and responding.</p>
<p>Obviously the MPS has let you down on this occasion for which we have to double our efforts to repair and restore the much needed trust and confidence which can enable us to progress these issues in order to deliver very real and meaningful change.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Steve Allen<br />
Commander
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