Comments on: I am defending the word of God says "gay cure" MP

By: liam.c

liam.c — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:06:20 +0000

i fort god loved evry one also it acualys says in the bibles that racim and prduece is wrong if shes useing bible quotes

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:17:30 +0000

Recommended reading for all the god freaks out there

THE GOD DELUSION BY RICHARD DAWKINS

YOU'LL ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT………….

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:05:00 +0000

I didn't hear anyone asking the Scots for sympathy.
and the North of Ireland does not ask for sympathy from anyone least of all the Scots who lay down under the yoke of tyranny.

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By: Hugh from Glasgow

Hugh from Glasgow — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:44:18 +0000

Patrick: Yawn!

Boo frickin hoo, lets all feel sorry for the north. Someone should cut that 6 counties off the rest of island, and push it into the Atlantic… along with its whiny and angry inhabitants. Get. Over. It.

Thank god the rest of Ireland is there to give the Irish a good name.

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:27:16 +0000

Whats the story here I spent ages writing a post and thought id lost it so wrote it again and finished it The weird squiggly writing that you have to copy means nowt aparrantly.

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:13:30 +0000

William… I would ask you to read thru my points again. I think you will find that all are verifiable facts which you can check out online or at the National Library of Ireland.
Is it not a sad fact that they will soon need a dedicated bus service from Leinster House to Mountjoy prison if Mahon has his way.

Try as i might i cannot find any part of my post that could be construed as anti British in any way.As someone else pointed out being a proud Irishman doesn't necessarily make me anti British any more than say Iraqis or Indians or Africans or Scots or Afganis or French would be.

While i may have gotten a little carried away with my assertion that Ulster would once again rule Ireland im sure that if your history lessons serve you well, you will know that Ulster did indeed rule Ireland and large part of Britain (Dal Riadagh)for most of the two thousand years until the McMorrows invited Strongbow over around 1150 to help them win the high Kingship which they were trying to usurp.The rest is history as they say hereabouts.
RE my claim to kinship with the High Kings of Ireland….I can trace my ancestry back to Nial of The Nine Hostages, who was High King in the fifth century.Why does that seem nutty to you. I'm sure there are many more who can do so. We weren't all killed off by the manufactured Famine you know.
I am rightly very proud of my ancestry.
However in deference to Linda i will apologize to anyone who may have taken offense at anything iv written.

To Ciaran McMahon
I am not Bill Perdue and i have a right to make the points i did …see above.
Did it not occur to you that RainbowRed may be nothing more than a non de plume plucked out of thin air while setting up a blog or MB posting.
By the way my paternal Grandma was aMcMahon…..

And to P Moron………
Where did i write anti British nonsense?….You only see and respond to what is in your own head……..Don't put words in mine that were not there.
And whats this stroke jibe about.Did it also not occur to your tiny mind that there may be stroke victims out there who would be very distressed at your jibe….Think on if you can before you hurt people.

To everybody who reads and or posts on this MB:
Are we not losing sight of the original point of our postings……….the vile Mrs Robinson who was reprimanded this weekend by "one of her own" one Rev Norman Hamilton, who mediated in the Holy Cross disgrace.
Reverend Hamilton urged the north of Irelands "first lady" to "read her biblical scriptures again" after she labeled gays an abomination and sick.He said "I think i would invite Mrs Robinson to consider the scriptures which talk about the need for careful language in dealing with people"
"There is a difference between political discourse,academic discourse and the language of relationships where there is pain,distress and fear.Please use this link to register your disapproval….. petitions.pm.gov.uk/robinson-gay/

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:34:59 +0000

Wiliam.If you read my posts again i think you will find that none of my points were my opinion as you put it All are readily verifiable facts which you can look up online or in the National Library in Dublin.
I do not set out to insult anyone on these MBs but you got me going with your jibe about milita
re: the IRA.
And i'm sorry but try as i might i cant seem to find the bit where you said i insulted the British? In deference to Linda i will apologize to you if you were insulted.
re my bit about being descended from the high kings………I can trace my ancestry to Nial of the Nine Hostages in the fifth century…….Tell me how that makes me a nut case and perhaps I was a little wistful in my assertion that Ulster will once again rule Ireland but if your history lessons serve you well you will know that Ulster did indeed rule ireland for most of a thousand years before M

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By: William - Dublin

William - Dublin — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:47:45 +0000

Linda, you're quite right, of course. Then I apologies to Patrick for any offence I may have caused, he's entitled to his opinion no matter how I disagree with it. I am big enough of a person to be able to say sorry when its deserved.

And Ciaran, yep, we've ALL asked about this seedy little club that Bill belongs to, RainbowRed. He's never responded, and any research I have done has only indicated he's a one man political party claiming to support some Red Ocktober styled revolution of gay proletarians. NO website. No address. No reference to it anywhere outside postings like his rants above.

I know, it all sounds insane, doesn't it? Well, Bill sounds insane, so ergo his stupid little organisation would most likely be the pipe dream of one nut job. It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic.

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By: Linda M

Linda M — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:41:17 +0000

Its sad that it seems that some people in Ireland are still doing the anti-British thing. How can we ask for equality when we're not willing to show compassion for past wrongs and respect for other identities? Patrick, we can't hold a grudge forever.

William, Padraig, Pol, I hear what you're saying, but maybe you should both back off a little, there's no point in polarising the issues, we're all on the same side are we not?

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By: Ciaran McMahon

Ciaran McMahon — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:12:17 +0000

"Being proud of being Irish, like myself and other here, does not imply being anti-British."

Well said, Padriag.

William, don't bother with this Patrick guy, sounds like he and Bill Perdue might be the same person…. god knows, they both sounds nutty enough to be.

And what's a "RainbowRED" anyway? Can someone please explain this to me. No website. No reference anywhere to an address. No indication as to what they do or stand for. Is this one man's nutty little political party or something? No one serious would purport to be in an organisation like this unless it had a presence of some kind.

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By: Padriag Moran

Padriag Moran — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:05:47 +0000

Patrick, you insult William ("by the sound of you you'd probably be the overseer on a horse with a whip in your hand, wise up little brit those days are im glad to say over. Your little dig at the end only goes to show the dying throes of a loser"), then you insult our country ("your corrupt sad little Free State"). So much for your sad little plea "why did you choose to attack me for perceived insults, yet ignored any or all my points". Perceived insults? Perceived? Are you suffering from a stroke??? The answer is, as William quite rightly pointed out, you're a hypocrite, that's why.

The following delightful comments by you just prove there's something deeply wrong with you, my friend:

- "But the day is coming and indeed may already be here when Ulster will once again rule Ireland"
- "And i repeat you'd still be digging spuds on a landlords estate but for the IRA"
- "I am an Irishman and can trace my lineage all the way back to the High Kings of Ireland"

Forgoe the lunatic rants, and one of us will address your deep-seated paranoia and anti-British nonsense. Being proud of being Irish, like myself and other here, does not imply being anti-British. What you are is a small minded bigot and a xenophobe, you're living proof as to why "your" six counties should stay exactly where they are to avoid letting that archaic poison of yours into our country.

Oh, and this is a gay site, lets keep your (and Bill's) infantile rants off here, yeah? With your racist attitude to other nationalities, you have no right to be asking to be respected for being gay.

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By: William - Dublin

William - Dublin — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:25:00 +0000

Firstly, Patrick, I will not answer your silly points after your silly "blowin" insult. Please. Best keep on your side of the border now, okay? And boo-hoo on "the mercy of the brits and unionists" comment, Jesus, grow up and move on. No wonder you are still killing each other up there. Oh, and the IRA of 1922 are in no way comparable to the IRA you guys having up there imposing their own brand of "justice" against innocent people… except in your mind. You can support terrorists all you like, but don't expect me to.

And now you think your a descendant of the High King's of Ireland. Right. Of course you are. Good for you.

Why does this site attract so many uber left/right leaning nut jobs?

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:51:59 +0000

William……..
(1) Did the twenty six counties, then widely known as The Irish Free State, not cut the remaining six counties loose after the war of independence and leave us to the mercy of the brits and unionists?
(2)Did CJ Haughey not tell the people to tighten their belts as he bought £100 shirts from Paris, paid for with someone elss' money, as they boarded boats and planes out of here in search of work? If not who did?
(3)Did that same leader not charge those same wretches departure tax out of their last few shillings of pitiful dole? I was one of them when i departed thru Dublin. If not who did?
(4) Was it not in your "republic of Ireland" where the corrupt priests and bishops operated their vile abuse of children? If not where and why are they still paying millions to those they abused?
(5)Was it not in convent laundries in Dublin Galway and Limerick that young girls were put to slavery and their babies sold off to rich Americans.?
(6) Why did you choose to attack me for perceived insults, yet ignored any or all my points.

In conclusion, I am an Irishman and can trace my lineage all the way back to the High Kings of Ireland and beyond and will not take lectures from blowins as to whether i insult or not my fellow irish.
That is why the IRA fought the war of independence..to give me the freedom to say as i please in my own country.
When i insult the British ..then you can complain.
So i reiterate; wheres the insult? Every word i have written is historical fact and can be verified by you if you take a little trip to the National Library

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:01:25 +0000

William………(1)Did the 26 counties not
cut six of Ulsters counties loose after the war of independence and leave us to the mercy of the British and Unionists and set up what was then known as the Free State.
(2) Did C j Haughey not tell the irish people to tighten their bootstraps as they were getting on boats and planes out of the country looking for work as he was buying £100 shirts by the dozen from Paris paid for with someone elses' money, and also charging them departure tax out of their last few shillings of their pitiful dole.
(3)Were the corrupt priests and bishops operating in Ireland or not?,If not where?
(4)Did the IRA fight the war of independance or not? If not who did?
(4) Did the "republic of ireland" not receive millions nay billions from Europe and the USA?
If not then from where? bi mean besides the millions sent home by those same people who had to pay to leave the country ……and by the way i was one of those having to pay as i left thru Dublin.
(5) And lastly I am Irish and as such i can if i want "insult" the Irish. Thats why the IRA fought the war of independence to give me the freedom to say as i please in my own country.
So i wont be told b a blowin what i can or cannot say.
Further to that be aware that i can trace my family tree all the way back to the High Kings of Ireland and beyond

I would also like you to show me where i was historically, factually wrong and i will make it wrong if not apologize.And one more point ….Wy pick on e perceived inslt…what about the points i made…wrong or right?

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By: William - Dublin

William - Dublin — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:48:41 +0000

Patrick you said "your corrupt sad little Free State", an small and petty insult to all Irish people, followed by "sure I don't need to remind you that abuse is the last refuge of the ignorant"

Perhaps a taste of your own advice would reduce the hypocrisy of your comments. This petty insult against the "free state" (correctly called the Republic of Ireland, thanks) is "historical fact", is it?

Bill, how many time do I have to remind you that the Tory party is in England, not Ireland. Calling an Irish person a Tory is just stupid. Now run along and find a real map. Oh, and nice job on the cutting and pasting, I'm sure Padraig thinks your real smart now.

What a complete muppet you are Perude… your an affront to gay people, gay rights, and the right of all people to speak their opinion.

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By: Bill Perdue, RainbowRED

Bill Perdue, RainbowRED — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:47:15 +0000

In the news…..

Northern Ireland gay groups to be honoured at Stormont reception June 13, 2008

"A Sinn Fein member of the Northern Ireland Assembly is to host a reception for gay rights groups at Parliament Buildings.The Coalition on Sexual Orientation and the Rainbow Project will be the guests of honour at the event.

Martina Anderson, an MLA for Foyle, told PinkNews.co.uk that the invitations to the reception will be co-signed by Progessive Unionist Party MLA Dawn Purvis, in a sign of cross-community support for gay rights.

A reception was planned for September, but Ms Anderson said she decided to bring it forward to June 24th in the light of the controversy surrounding her Assembly colleague Iris Robinson.

Mrs Robinson, who is also a DUP MP and the wife of the First Minister, said on Radio Ulster last week that homosexuality is disgusting, loathsome, nauseating, wicked and vile and claimed gay people can be "cured."

"I wanted to ensure that wider society knew that the nonsense that came out of Iris is not reflective of the vast majority of politicians or citizens," Ms Anderson told PinkNews.co.uk.

"Her Cruella de Vil outburst caused wide offence and hurt to those of us that want to create an equal society.

"As (Sinn Fein) spokesperson on equality and human rights I felt offended and enraged. Coming out of 40 years of conflict, we will not tolerate targeting of any group." Ms Anderson said that all 108 MLAs would be invited to the reception and Mrs Robinson and her DUP colleagues should attend. "They have a lot to learn and people learn by listening and reflecting.I am hoping they will attend the event and even hope that Iris will."

A spokesman for the First Minister failed to respond to a specific query from PinkNews.co.uk earlier this week about whether Mr Robinson will meet with gay groups.

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Bonehead math for Conservatives…..

Irish civil partnerships to exclude parental rights
Pink news – April 2, 2008

"Gay rights groups in Ireland have expressed disappointment that the government may not extend parental rights to same-sex couples as part of new legislation to legally recognise lesbian and gay relationships.

On Monday MarriagEquality, a group formed to campaign for full civil marriage, released the details of a poll it commissioned which shows the number of Irish people who support partnerships only has fallen from 33% to 26%.

MarriagEquality's Grainne Healy said that reports about the new civil partnerships indicate they do not give gay couples the same rights as married heterosexuals.

"While any legislation in this area is welcome, if these reports are true, it is of great concern that gay and lesbian people will continue not to have the same rights as heterosexual couples," she told The Irish Times.

Overall 84% of those polled support either gay marriage or civil partnerships."

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:56:14 +0000

William,Pol, Padraig et all,
If you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen.You didn't put up one point in argument to my piece, which by the way has nothing to do with wikipedia.
Instead you resort to infantile abuse which has no foundation in fact.You cannot know after a few postings, on whom you are heaping your abuse. In no way did i intend any personal abuse on any contributer other than that which is historical fact. I'mcampaign sure i don't need to remind you that abuse is the last refuge of the ignorant

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By: CONOR

CONOR — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:03:25 +0000

Robinson, the word homosexual in the english dictionary means "A sexual attraction between persons of the same sex." and not an act as such. I know of plenty of heterosexual couples who practise sodomy, Robinson does that make them an abomination in God's eyes?
Or will you give them a by ball because they are heterosexual and not homosexual.

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By: Padriag Moran

Padriag Moran — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:32:21 +0000

Thanks William for the heads up (funny mail there, by the way, all the more funnier because you seem to hit the nail on the head!)

I had no intention of answering that muck by way of a comment from Bill, I figured out that he was as mush a nut as he was stupid. Wikipedia Irish history for retards doesn't actually count as expertise in my book.

It surprises me that people like this Bill moron ever get laid in life.

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By: William - Dublin

William - Dublin — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:28:37 +0000

Padraig, welcome to the club… you've been branded by loony Billy Bolshevik. All his mails are usually uneducated stupidity wrapped in silly insults, as you can see from the above. Lets see how you faired:

1. Bill called you a silly name – CHECK
2. Bill made a sweeping political statement in the style of Leonid Brezhnev – CHECK
3. Bill called you a conservative (This one is quite popular) – CHECK
4. Bill insists you are not who you say you are. e.g. by saying you are someone else, or not of the nationality you claim to be (also a popular one in Bill's limited arsenal) – CHECK
5. Bill calls you a second stupid name, normally by means of an obscure reference or archaic term – CHECK
6. Bill says your naive or blind – CHECK
7. Bill accuse you of being in league with the BNP/Tory/Republican Party or some other conspiratorial conservative party – CHECK
8. Bill says, in his infinite wisdom, that you're and enemy of the supporters of gay equality, or simply you're not gay – CHECK

Well done Padriag, you have received 8 out of 8!

Don't worry, most of us on this site have been insulted by this left wing nut job. It might interest you to know that he spends his time on US sites too, accusing gay activist that don't agree with him of being paedophiles, lies regularly about his so called education, and promotes his silly one-man communist society… which is as impotent as he is. Pay no attention to him, he has many, many meds to get through before he can re-enter normal society.

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