Comments on: MP reacts to homophobic assualt by suggesting "ex-gay" therapy for victim http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:29:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Bishop Ioan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-56089 Bishop Ioan Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:23:53 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-56089 I notice that whever people call these fundie bigots on their hatred and ignorance, the first thing they do is play the victim card. Not only are they hypocrites, but they are dishonest into the bargain, sins that, as I recall, were condemned as such by the Jesus they claim to love. I suggest that this woman and others like her remember his warning at the end of one of his parables: "Whatever ye have done to these, the least of your brothers, you have done it unto ME." I notice that whever people call these fundie bigots on their hatred and ignorance, the first thing they do is play the victim card. Not only are they hypocrites, but they are dishonest into the bargain, sins that, as I recall, were condemned as such by the Jesus they claim to love.

I suggest that this woman and others like her remember his warning at the end of one of his parables: "Whatever ye have done to these, the least of your brothers, you have done it unto ME."

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]]> By: Rory O'Connor http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-46678 Rory O'Connor Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:40:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-46678 Republicans must be loving this, once again the conservative Protestants of the Northern Ireland bible belt fail to shatter a single stereotype surrounding their backward thinking. It goes without saying the average Protestant is probably the most tolerant of all religios types but their nutcase enclaves seem to be even worse than Islam. Fair play to republicans for painting the free derry monument be painted pink for solidarity with the gay community http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/mcguinnesss-tribute-to-gay--community-at--pink-free-derry-wall-13464000.html Republicans must be loving this, once again the conservative Protestants of the Northern Ireland bible belt fail to shatter a single stereotype surrounding their backward thinking. It goes without saying the average Protestant is probably the most tolerant of all religios types but their nutcase enclaves seem to be even worse than Islam.
Fair play to republicans for painting the free derry monument be painted pink for solidarity with the gay community

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/mcguinnesss-tribute-to-gay–community-at–pink-free-derry-wall-13464000.html

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]]> By: Notborn Yesterday http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38015 Notborn Yesterday Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:04:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-38015 Congratulations Iris on your brave stand. You will be hated for it by those who falsely accuse you of hatred, and even as this article makes no mention of your condemnation of violence against homosexuals you will continue to be misrepresented. A vocal element (by no means all) within the homosexual community will ALWAYS visciously attack the character of those who stand, not against homosexuals but against homosexual acts. It will ALWAYS twist reasoned disapproval of homosexual behaviour - no matter how lovingly given - into an accusation of hatred. This is a tactic designed to divert attention from the real issues, such as the rampant disease (hey, if you want to argue that one you can read about it on any of your own comprehensive GLBT web-sites) and high suicide rate which it also twists into an accusation against those who promote and defend natural sexual relations. This vocal element is ALWAYS among the first to deny any responsibility to a Higher Power, hailing evolution as its creator. Yet I have NEVER heard a sincere attempt to explain homosexuality from an evolutionary viewpoint. THINK about it. I guess the reason is pretty obvious, even to those who ridicule the argument that homosexual acts are unnatural. Oh, and by the way, it doesn't take "religious fanaticism" or fear to recognise the filthy nature of the acts that homosexuals commit. I have heard the same statement - in person - from an ex-homosexual. Congratulations Iris on your brave stand. You will be hated for it by those who falsely accuse you of hatred, and even as this article makes no mention of your condemnation of violence against homosexuals you will continue to be misrepresented.

A vocal element (by no means all) within the homosexual community will ALWAYS visciously attack the character of those who stand, not against homosexuals but against homosexual acts. It will ALWAYS twist reasoned disapproval of homosexual behaviour – no matter how lovingly given – into an accusation of hatred. This is a tactic designed to divert attention from the real issues, such as the rampant disease (hey, if you want to argue that one you can read about it on any of your own comprehensive GLBT web-sites) and high suicide rate which it also twists into an accusation against those who promote and defend natural sexual relations.

This vocal element is ALWAYS among the first to deny any responsibility to a Higher Power, hailing evolution as its creator. Yet I have NEVER heard a sincere attempt to explain homosexuality from an evolutionary viewpoint. THINK about it. I guess the reason is pretty obvious, even to those who ridicule the argument that homosexual acts are unnatural.

Oh, and by the way, it doesn't take "religious fanaticism" or fear to recognise the filthy nature of the acts that homosexuals commit. I have heard the same statement – in person – from an ex-homosexual.

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]]> By: Notborn Yesterday http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38010 Notborn Yesterday Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:52:15 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-38010 "I'll start off by saying that I have nothing against Christians as long as they keep it behind closed doors." Oh dear, Rusky. Can you hear yourself? You want Christians to keep their faith "behind closed doors", but deny them - and indeed many who have no particular faith - the right to ask you to keep your sexual behaviour behind closed doors? This is the hypocrisy typical of both radical atheism and homosexuality. "I'll start off by saying that I have nothing against Christians as long as they keep it behind closed doors."

Oh dear, Rusky. Can you hear yourself? You want Christians to keep their faith "behind closed doors", but deny them – and indeed many who have no particular faith – the right to ask you to keep your sexual behaviour behind closed doors?

This is the hypocrisy typical of both radical atheism and homosexuality.

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]]> By: Kameron http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31913 Kameron Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:00:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31913 I think this is just ridiculous. I'm 15 years old, and when you hear stuff like this going round in your own school. Imagine how it affects young gay people? They'll probably look at this and be too scared to be themselves and who they really are. I think this is just ridiculous. I'm 15 years old, and when you hear stuff like this going round in your own school. Imagine how it affects young gay people? They'll probably look at this and be too scared to be themselves and who they really are.

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]]> By: Patrick http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31827 Patrick Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:21:36 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31827 Recommended reading for all the god freaks out there: THE GOD DELUSION By RICHARD DAWKINS YOU'LL LOVE IT................ Recommended reading for all the god freaks out there:
THE GOD DELUSION By RICHARD DAWKINS
YOU'LL LOVE IT…………….

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]]> By: Chris http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31599 Chris Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:53:42 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31599 I'm not gay but I think what she said was absolutely disgracefull If anyone is interested there's a petition going round... http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Robinson-Gay/ I'm not gay but I think what she said was absolutely disgracefull

If anyone is interested
there's a petition going round…
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Robinson-Gay/

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]]> By: Patrick http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31549 Patrick Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:09:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31549 Tut Tut James, You are lowering the moral high ground we are currently enjoying by wishing this vile harridan harm. Her conscience will eventually catch up with her and those that give her succor. The vile Mrs Robinson will be political history and that will be punishment enough,mark my words. If Reg Empey is on the ball he should be preparing his party for a comeback, because this is the beginning of the end for the Dopey Unionist Party and not a minute too soon. I call nay plead with everyone who is appalled by this excuse for a human being to make a formal complaint to the Police Service of Northern Ireland in South Belfast or your nearest police station. Quote the Public Order Act. Northern Ireland.also Incitement to Hatred act and any other law you can find that may be relevant. This is a battle we must win because if we fail the fundies will make our lives unbearable or at least will try. ONWARD TO FREEDOM!!!!!!! Tut Tut James, You are lowering the moral high ground we are currently enjoying by wishing this vile harridan harm.
Her conscience will eventually catch up with her and those that give her succor. The vile Mrs Robinson will be political history and that will be punishment enough,mark my words. If Reg Empey is on the ball he should be preparing his party for a comeback, because this is the beginning of the end for the Dopey Unionist Party and not a minute too soon.
I call nay plead with everyone who is appalled by this excuse for a human being to make a formal complaint to the Police Service of Northern Ireland in South Belfast or your nearest police station. Quote the Public Order Act. Northern Ireland.also
Incitement to Hatred act and any other law you can find that may be relevant.

This is a battle we must win because if we fail the fundies will make our lives unbearable or at least will try. ONWARD TO FREEDOM!!!!!!!

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]]> By: Ruski http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31448 Ruski Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:30:41 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31448 I'll start off by saying that I have nothing against Christians as long as they keep it behind closed doors. In fact some of my best friends are Christian. However I find it hard to accept those who force their Christian views in my face. On Radio 5 Live on Saturday night, I heard Iris label homosexuality an abomination and offered to provide homosexuals with psychiatric help with their "illness". She also raised a point that she knew of people who had killed themselves because of their sexuality! May I suggest that this woman really has blood on her hands. Those people didn't kill themselves because they were gay - they killed themselves because of the nightmare their lives are made having such hideously biggotted views violently shoved down their throats from so called Christians! It is infact Iris herself who needs psychiatric help for believing in a ghost in the sky, and the unassailable truth of the horrible dogma in the bible (for balance, I may add that the Koran is no better) with no basis of evidence whatsoever. If God, Allah or Yahweh really do exist, and as many theologens claim to be the same entity, either it wants it's followers to be at war, or is impotent to act. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with having faith, or believing in an afterlife, but once you start putting words in the mouth of a fictional character in order to justify a position of hatred, this is really not acceptable. Ruski www.RuskiDot.com I'll start off by saying that I have nothing against Christians as long as they keep it behind closed doors. In fact some of my best friends are Christian. However I find it hard to accept those who force their Christian views in my face.

On Radio 5 Live on Saturday night, I heard Iris label homosexuality an abomination and offered to provide homosexuals with psychiatric help with their "illness". She also raised a point that she knew of people who had killed themselves because of their sexuality! May I suggest that this woman really has blood on her hands. Those people didn't kill themselves because they were gay – they killed themselves because of the nightmare their lives are made having such hideously biggotted views violently shoved down their throats from so called Christians!

It is infact Iris herself who needs psychiatric help for believing in a ghost in the sky, and the unassailable truth of the horrible dogma in the bible (for balance, I may add that the Koran is no better) with no basis of evidence whatsoever.

If God, Allah or Yahweh really do exist, and as many theologens claim to be the same entity, either it wants it's followers to be at war, or is impotent to act. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with having faith, or believing in an afterlife, but once you start putting words in the mouth of a fictional character in order to justify a position of hatred, this is really not acceptable.

Ruski
http://www.RuskiDot.com

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]]> By: Bill Perdue, RainbowRED http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31374 Bill Perdue, RainbowRED Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:10:07 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31374 Sinn Féin, the pro –nationalist all Ireland socialist leaning party takes a strong stand on GLBT rights. Recent polling the Republic indicates that 58 percent support full same sex marriage rights when number of those supporting the second class citizenship option of has fallen to 26 percent. In the Republic SF and Labour support same sex marriage against the policies of FF, FG and the Greens. It’s part of the reason why SF continues to grow at the expense of the Greens and the majority parties. In the remnant colony in the north however, both SF and the SDLP decided, since it was going to become law anyway, to support civil partnerships, a form of second class citizenship for which they were rightly criticized by GLBT groups. The DUP has always violently opposed the GLBT and women’s movement and worked to continue the apartheid-like conditions imposed on Irish working people. The DUP relied on the religious bigotry of Paisleys Presbyterian cult in their campaigns. The result was years of harsh communal violence. The right wing bigots who run the DUP and the Paisleyite cult should be prosecuted for hate crimes whenever they commit them. Sinn Féin, the pro –nationalist all Ireland socialist leaning party takes a strong stand on GLBT rights.

Recent polling the Republic indicates that 58 percent support full same sex marriage rights when number of those supporting the second class citizenship option of has fallen to 26 percent.
In the Republic SF and Labour support same sex marriage against the policies of FF, FG and the Greens. It’s part of the reason why SF continues to grow at the expense of the Greens and the majority parties. In the remnant colony in the north however, both SF and the SDLP decided, since it was going to become law anyway, to support civil partnerships, a form of second class citizenship for which they were rightly criticized by GLBT groups.

The DUP has always violently opposed the GLBT and women’s movement and worked to continue the apartheid-like conditions imposed on Irish working people. The DUP relied on the religious bigotry of Paisleys Presbyterian cult in their campaigns. The result was years of harsh communal violence. The right wing bigots who run the DUP and the Paisleyite cult should be prosecuted for hate crimes whenever they commit them.

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]]> By: terry dactyl http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31358 terry dactyl Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:56:41 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31358 The article suggests that the political party Sinn Fein did not react to Robinsons words - incorrect - their education minister Catriona Ruane asked that the outburst be examined under hate crime legislation. They have a long record of being vocal on gay rights issues. The article suggests that the political party Sinn Fein did not react to Robinsons words – incorrect – their education minister Catriona Ruane asked that the outburst be examined under hate crime legislation. They have a long record of being vocal on gay rights issues.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31344 Robert, ex-pat Brit Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:12:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31344 Sightunseen, yes it does remind me of Sally Kern. The trouble with these socalled zealot "christians" is that its ok for them to denigrate our lives, villify us, utter hateful things that can often give tacit consent to committing crimes against us or discriminate against us even though its now illegal, yet when we bash back, they cry blood, that we're offending their religious beliefs and mocking religion. Well...ho hum! These lunatics can't have it both ways, and its about time they realised that nobody is above the law. They bash us, we bash back with impunity! What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Free speech shouldn't be for some and not for others when it comes to personal attacks an an entire group of people. That's the problem with state religion, it has far too much to say and meddles in politics where it has no right to. The hierarchy pays next to no taxes and should keep their mouths shut. One way to resolve it is to disestablish state religion once and for all and let them fend for themselves, and go find real jobs. Sightunseen, yes it does remind me of Sally Kern. The trouble with these socalled zealot "christians" is that its ok for them to denigrate our lives, villify us, utter hateful things that can often give tacit consent to committing crimes against us or discriminate against us even though its now illegal, yet when we bash back, they cry blood, that we're offending their religious beliefs and mocking religion. Well…ho hum! These lunatics can't have it both ways, and its about time they realised that nobody is above the law. They bash us, we bash back with impunity! What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Free speech shouldn't be for some and not for others when it comes to personal attacks an an entire group of people. That's the problem with state religion, it has far too much to say and meddles in politics where it has no right to. The hierarchy pays next to no taxes and should keep their mouths shut. One way to resolve it is to disestablish state religion once and for all and let them fend for themselves, and go find real jobs.

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]]> By: sightunseen http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31343 sightunseen Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:18:42 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31343 This Ms. Robinson reminds me of Ms. Sally Kern, a pol from Oklahoma, usa. Both of these fine women are reaching out and hoping to inflame the passions of murder in the hearts of their constituents. Aren't they special? This Ms. Robinson reminds me of Ms. Sally Kern, a pol from Oklahoma, usa. Both of these fine women are reaching out and hoping to inflame the passions of murder in the hearts of their constituents. Aren't they special?

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]]> By: Steve http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31337 Steve Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:15:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31337 I am always amazed to find out that some people still hold these prehistoric views. But to find them in positions of power, legislating over the rest of us...what does that say about the loonies who elected her? I am always amazed to find out that some people still hold these prehistoric views. But to find them in positions of power, legislating over the rest of us…what does that say about the loonies who elected her?

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]]> By: Edward in Los Angeles http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31331 Edward in Los Angeles Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:09:58 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31331 Email the woman and her superiors and let her know that, in the immortal words of Paddy Chayefsky's "Network", "we're mad as hell as we're not going to take this anymore". List of email addresses for the Health, Social Services and Public Safety Statutory Committee: Thomas.Buchanan@niassembly.gov.uk , Alex.Easton@niassembly.gov.uk , robinsoni@parliament.uk , Kieran.Deeny@niassembly.gov.uk , Claire.McGill@niassembly.gov.uk , Michelle.ONeill@niassembly.gov.uk, Tommy.Gallagher@talk21.com , carmelhannasdlp@btconnect.com , and john.mccallister@btconnect.com Email the woman and her superiors and let her know that, in the immortal words of Paddy Chayefsky's "Network", "we're mad as hell as we're not going to take this anymore". List of email addresses for the Health, Social Services and Public Safety Statutory Committee: @niassembly.gov.uk">Thomas.Buchanan@niassembly.gov.uk , @niassembly.gov.uk">Alex.Easton@niassembly.gov.uk , @parliament.uk">robinsoni@parliament.uk , @niassembly.gov.uk">Kieran.Deeny@niassembly.gov.uk , @niassembly.gov.uk">Claire.McGill@niassembly.gov.uk , @niassembly.gov.uk">Michelle.ONeill@niassembly.gov.uk, @talk21.com">Tommy.Gallagher@talk21.com ,
carmelhannasdlp@btconnect.com , and john.mccallister@btconnect.com

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]]> By: Adrian-T http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31329 Adrian-T Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:46:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31329 This kind of hate filled Christian nonsense it totally what you would expect from fanaticslike her. It is a real shame there will not eventually be a hell for her to go to. This kind of hate filled Christian nonsense it totally what you would expect from fanaticslike her. It is a real shame there will not eventually be a hell for her to go to.

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]]> By: Simon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31324 Simon Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:12:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31324 Its unbelievable that such an uneducated woman can be allowed to portray her views on National Radio. Her views should be kept personal. She does not speak for the people of Northern Ireland. Lets hope the investigation into Parliamentary Expenses looks at her accounts in detail. She has the highest office expenses. Its unbelievable that such an uneducated woman can be allowed to portray her views on National Radio. Her views should be kept personal. She does not speak for the people of Northern Ireland. Lets hope the investigation into Parliamentary Expenses looks at her accounts in detail. She has the highest office expenses.

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]]> By: Peter http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31322 Peter Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:27:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31322 I think it's an absolute disgrace, anyone reading this should send an e-mail of complaint to the DUP party: info@dup.org.uk I think it's an absolute disgrace, anyone reading this should send an e-mail of complaint to the DUP party:
@dup.org.uk">info@dup.org.uk

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31320 Robert, ex-pat Brit Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:39:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31320 The American Psychiatric Association as far back as 1973 removed homosexuality from the list of mental disorders. Further, it also refutes ex-gay ministries who claim they can convert gays to straights. None of their ministries have provided any documentation or conducted extensive studies or experiments and not one word has been published in any of the legitimate medical or scientific literature. They believe simply in praying away the gay and using aversion therapy. This witch Robinson is the one who needs therapy, permanently. But what can you expect from the DUP, its a party that engenders hatred, intolerance but also produces some of the sickest, pyschotic people that one can imagine. About time these people were taken to task. What she is doing is tantamount to creating an environment of contempt, hatred and incitement to commit violent crimes against gay men and women. What an evil bitch! The American Psychiatric Association as far back as 1973 removed homosexuality from the list of mental disorders. Further, it also refutes ex-gay ministries who claim they can convert gays to straights. None of their ministries have provided any documentation or conducted extensive studies or experiments and not one word has been published in any of the legitimate medical or scientific literature. They believe simply in praying away the gay and using aversion therapy.

This witch Robinson is the one who needs therapy, permanently. But what can you expect from the DUP, its a party that engenders hatred, intolerance but also produces some of the sickest, pyschotic people that one can imagine. About time these people were taken to task. What she is doing is tantamount to creating an environment of contempt, hatred and incitement to commit violent crimes against gay men and women. What an evil bitch!

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]]> By: William - Dublin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31318 William - Dublin Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:28:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7858#comment-31318 What a fool this woman must be, and what an insult to the education system that she believes in "homosexual cures" and the Adam & Eve claptrap. Its a real pity this woman doesn't go get cured for her unforgivable stupidly. The sooner Ireland rids itself of people like this waste of cells, the better off the whole island will be. What a fool this woman must be, and what an insult to the education system that she believes in "homosexual cures" and the Adam & Eve claptrap.

Its a real pity this woman doesn't go get cured for her unforgivable stupidly.

The sooner Ireland rids itself of people like this waste of cells, the better off the whole island will be.

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