Comments on: Muslim gang attacks gay catwalk model

By: mimi

mimi — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:39:43 +0000

good gay peoples just a bunch pervert sick people causing AIDS,u LIBERAL SCUMBAGS causing all problem,bring the all and they can beat u

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By: orla magill

orla magill — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:32:02 +0000

This is not the first time that Gay People have been attacked by muslim groups in Holland who are seeking refugee status. If they cant respect the laws of the country in which they seek refuge then why did they go there ? This attack needs to be taken into consideration when they are pretending to be the ideal citizen, when they are before the immigration board who will decide whether they are granted status to stay. Does Holland want more homophobic fundamentalists ? Sadly, isn`t there enough already ?

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By: wookieinheat

wookieinheat — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:19:49 +0000

i find it fascinating that it is those who talk demeaningly about white people who are always the first to call other racist.

how is it that criticism of islam (a religion) is considered racist and unacceptable while direct racism towards white people is not?

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By: Al

Al — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:29:58 +0000

Read Geert Wilders speech about the Islamification of Europe.
http://www.pvv.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1310&Itemid=1

"A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century."

Europe is toast unless people wake up and abandon what we call "liberalism".

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By: William - Dublin

William - Dublin — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:48:21 +0000

Er, Tyler, the statement "Honestly, I'm not going to make statements" and "Keep it under control next time" are a little contradictory in the same paragraph.

Personally, I think there people shoudl be deported *after* they have been convicted. I support immigration, but to me immigration means adopting the value structure of your "new" home. If that's an issue, then don't re-locate there. If you cannot uphold the values, then leave.

Oh, and how brace if them in that they were ten against one. Bravo there, boys! A true show of your "manly strength".

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By: Luke

Luke — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:17:59 +0000

It seems that more and more people are waking up to the threat that islam poses to the world.

Though how stupid are our politicians that they cannot see that islam wants to demographically conquer Europe?

The intolerance of islam is all too visible. Whether it's taking offence at the naming of a teddy bear or an unwelcome remark about the islamic prophet's mohammed sex with a 9 year old girl. The seething, whining and death threats come from all quarters.

Oh, and just check out the rape statistics against Swedish and Norweigen women in their capital cities. I'll give you a clue, it isn't the Buddhists.

ROPMA.

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By: Joe Libson

Joe Libson — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:55:01 +0000

I am a conservative (living in SF in the US). None of the people around the victim rose up and helped him. Only one guy came to his aid and he was also attacked. And as a perfect parallel, it seems the majority of the comments are also failing to come to the aid of the victim.

Be clear: "this attack is unacceptable. Accept pluralistic democracy or get the heck out of our country".

Living in SF allows me the "opportunity" to see "Queers for Palestine". One of the more absurd unions. Wake up Netherlands. Assert yourselves.

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By: garth

garth — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:38:45 +0000

The whole idea of 'liberal' is killing itself. Liberal use to mean open mindedness, more accectance, etc… but from Shaniqua being a producer of fatherless crack babies to little mohamed on the dole attacking gay people, from illegal mexicans killing children accidently while driving without so much as a driver's permit, and last but by no means least, to lilly white liberal socialistics, tolerance will come to an end. Say goodbye to liberal hopes and dreams. If you want an open society, in your vision, you will have to apply some rules and bounderies. Islam in Europe wants too much. I do not believe islam would produce much good anyway. It is far too odious. The Dutch and the rest of Europe are going to have to start to confront these awful bullies. I, emotionally for one, am beginning to HATE muslims!!!!

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By: deb farrel

deb farrel — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:43:15 +0000

there will always be good and evil in this world as we know it. God is love…a love that never fails….we may lose a battle but we will not lose the war.

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By: Tyler

Tyler — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:00:17 +0000

I am a conservative, so I'll just sit this one out and watch. Honestly, I'm not going to make statements. It's really unfortunate for this to happen in Western Culture, but reallym those guys should get punished for the crime, not because of their background. Keep it under control next time.

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By: Reddesires

Reddesires — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:29:17 +0000

Muslims are dangerous to all people and shouldn't be able to live in a free country go home and stay there.

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By: Darren Collins

Darren Collins — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:11:42 +0000

Yet another example of how much of a peaceful religion Islam is. I'm not sure the World can handle much more peace from these "people".

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By: Charles De Raeymaeker

Charles De Raeymaeker — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:53:55 +0000

I quite agree with John Sharpe, "stop religions , stop violence". So much of the mistrust in the world, and hence the malevolence that inevitably follows, is caused by religious "leaders" with more hate then compassion. But the fault is in those who support religions too, especially with complacent moderate thinkers.

And to Keith, I believe I have seen a few of Mr. Perdue's comments before on this site, and a few others, and I have found them to be self ingratiating, politicised and downright insulting to others. Mr. Perdue, you could do more for your standpoint and argument if you refrained from your unnecessary insults towards others. If you are incapable, or insufficiently educated and mannered enough to refrain from doing do, then I would suggest Keith is quite correct in his assessment that you are bordering on some kind of instability, and that your therapy is not working.

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By: Keith

Keith — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:36:10 +0000

"Perdue has a far older Latinate origin and means trailblazer, which I find satisfyingly fitting."

LOL! Oh, please, you must be joking. I have read all your prior postings, Mr. "Perdue" and I can only conclude that the origin of Perdue is "insane". You're a nut job, and no one here thinks of you as a trailblazer!

Watch this, the next posting form our esteemed "trailblazer" will no doubt be back onto an insult around anyone who disagrees with him being a "conservative" or not who they claim to be. You're full of nonsense.

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By: john wilfred sharp

john wilfred sharp — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:32:43 +0000

violence again , religion again.
stop religions , stop violence .
i live in muslim country indonesia , to this date still free to be gay , but it is holding to a thread , last week again beatings buy Muslims organized group FPI send over 30 to hospital they where marching for religious freedom .stop all religions now !god does not exist ,

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By: David

David — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:55:48 +0000

Watch how this turns from a story about violent homophobia within the predominantly muslim immigrant community into a story about "racism" against immigrants. It happens EVER. SINGLE. TIME. These people are using our very own Western values of tolerance against us, and there's nothing we can do to stop it because as soon as we do something about it, that turns us into CONSERVATIVES, and we can't very well have that, now can we.

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By: Bill Perdue, RainbowRED

Bill Perdue, RainbowRED — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:07:07 +0000

John is a pugnacious, if not particularly bright, islamophobe who sounds like he has an itchy trigger finger. He can’t wait for the killing to start.

Islamophobia is another name for racism, a type not limited to skin color or ethnicity. It stresses blind, murderous hatred for an entire civilization and everyone associated with it, not just bigoted cultists like the ayatollahs. Islamophobia is totally indistinguishable from the Nazi anti-Semitism and has the same goal – mass murder.

Mass murder is the incredibly violent method used by christist Europeans and Euro-Americans, who murdered and pillaged their way across Europe, Asia, the Middle East, Africa and the Americas for centuries.

If their past was violent so is what happening now. Their latest genocides were by the Nazis in Europe against Russians, Jews, Poles and anyone else they could get their hands on, by rightwing serbians and christists in Bosnia-Herzegovina against European muslims, and by Euro-Americans against the Vietnamese and muslims in Iraq. (In Iraq the military commands of the US and their allies routinely arm Shiite and Sunni groups who obey anti-GLBT death Fatwa’s like that issued by ayatollah Al-Sistani. They hunt down and murder hundreds of young gay men and women with arms supplied by the US.)

The upsurge of islamophobia in recent years is the work of the rightwing christists and oil barons who control the US government. Its goal is to excuse the Clinton/Bush oil piracy and genocide against the Iraqis, the occupation of Afghanistan, and widening the genocide to include Iran. Anyone with even half a brain can see that. But not John. “Special Education” fails us again!

The GLBT communities should refuse to be associated with rabid racists and islamophobes. We shouldn’t play into the hands of the right wing christians and other homophobes. They want to divide and conquer. We need to unify to defend ourselves and we need allies in the unions, the women’s movement, the antiwar movement and the immigrant communities.

Incidentally, John, your posts are wrong about everything. Perdue has a far older Latinate origin and means trailblazer, which I find satisfyingly fitting. The ‘lost’ appellation derived from the French catholic cults attempt to rename and stigmatize protestant christists, the huguenots. The catholic cultists meant to humiliate the few survivors of their St. Bartholomew’s Day massacre, when they murdered hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. How typically violent.
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By: John

John — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:08:32 +0000

"Perhaps some lessons in RE along with those in logic? I must ask you: who is it in the USA that are holding back their country's march towards gay equality? Those crazed and backward Muslims overrunning the Western world that exist only in your well-groomed imagination? I think not…"

The old moat/beam line, eh Fahad?

And if you don't like the state of gay rights in The West, U.S.A. included, and if you bitch about a culture and a civilisation far superior to one you emerged from, then go back in live in the Islamic world.

When it comes to gay rights, women's rights, minority rights, religious rights ( indeed ALL human rights) the islamic world has a whold goddamned lumber-yard in its eye.

And Islam has a track record stretching back 14 centuries, Fahad, and even a superficial examination of it reveals its repulsive ugliness.

Mohammed was repugnant. He was vile, psycopathic murderer who bought the loyalty of his followers with stolen loot gleaned from raids.

He's NO Buddha and is of NO relation to Christ.

This monster is considered a 'model for all time' in the Islamic world.

People just don't get more retarded than that.

Do you even know what a 'prophet' is, Fahad?

Islam took what were for millenia the wealthiest, most enlightened and most advanced areas of the globe ( Egypt, N. Africa, Persia and Byzantium) and in only a few generations turned them into worthless, irrelevant, stagnant backwaters.

Islam is now in the process of doing likewise to Europe.

And since you're living in Europe (at least for the moment), I suggest you make a break for it and abandon Islam.

Why?

Because 14 centuries of muslim history clearly demonstrate that Islam CANNOT produce a civil society.

The entire Ummah is a dysfunctional, festering swamp of dishonesty, deceit, corruption and graft.

As Attatuk said back in the 20s; "Islam is a rotting corpse and Mohammed an immoral Beduoin".

Without a significant host population of non-muslims to tax and to parasite off of, as was the case during your 'golden age', Islam's true colours quickly show through, and its utter backwardness is made plain for all to see.

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By: Fahad

Fahad — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:52:28 +0000

I absolutely agree with Bill Perdue when he says we must champion others who face bigotry and also help them to fight the good fight. I am not going to comment on Thatchell and Palestine, but the strategy Bill outlined is the only way perceptions can change for the better. In 1984, Lesbians and Gays Support the Miners managed to get the traditionally homophobic labour movement extend its notions of egalitarianism and equality to the realms of sexual orientation. There is a very good article on this in the May '07 issue of the Gay Times (page 226).

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By: Fahad

Fahad — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:39:12 +0000

John, for your kind information, I AM in my home country. I am a proud British citizen who was born and bred here. I'm not sure where you live if you think that just because I have a 'Muslim name' that I must be a foreign immigrant. It is just this sort of attitude from those considered 'indigenous' that is exacerbating the problems that actually exist. It is disgusting how often "immigrant" is being used as a pejorative term on this page. I must also ask you where I have said I find "Holland too intolerant"?

I must also insist you take a look at your own Fascist fantasy world where you judge an entire community on the actions of a minority. There is no logic to it whatsoever. It's akin to this: some Christians support the BNP and are racist, therefore ALL Christians are BNP supporters and are racist. I suggest you take some lessons in logic.

I think you are fooling yourself if you are totally convinced that Islam does not have anything in common with the other Abrahamic faiths. Perhaps some lessons in RE along with those in logic? I must ask you: who is it in the USA that are holding back their country's march towards gay equality? Those crazed and backward Muslims overrunning the Western world that exist only in your well-groomed imagination? I think not…

"Ten of them svagely attacked this young man, for no other reason than their "faith". Who'll be next?" (John)
Who said that it was because of their "faith"? Have you spoken to the attackers? Do you have access to the police files? I suggest you produce the evidence before making such baseless suppositions.

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