Comments on: Suspended MP accuses newspapers of homophobia http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:23:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Omar Kuddus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27140 Omar Kuddus Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:45:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27140 Jack, by “agenda” I mean our or rather the majority of the gay communities, desire and wish for total equality and not to be treated differently, due to our sexuality. His agenda in this instance would apply to his own political beliefs and vies. Nothing more.I try and avoid American English, as you put it, when I “respond or comment”, but it does sometimes unconsciously slip in. (It is due to having my degree from Harvard and PHD from MIT, and nothing else, and being educated in American schools whilst my parents were in the Foreign Service.)No harm meant, and I hope this answers the question, for under no circumstances was I trying to disrespect his own personal political views and goals that he himself believes in and has the rights to. My other “comment” should have made this apparent. Jack, by “agenda” I mean our or rather the majority of the gay communities, desire and wish for total equality and not to be treated differently, due to our sexuality. His agenda in this instance would apply to his own political beliefs and vies. Nothing more.I try and avoid American English, as you put it, when I “respond or comment”, but it does sometimes unconsciously slip in. (It is due to having my degree from Harvard and PHD from MIT, and nothing else, and being educated in American schools whilst my parents were in the Foreign Service.)No harm meant, and I hope this answers the question, for under no circumstances was I trying to disrespect his own personal political views and goals that he himself believes in and has the rights to. My other “comment” should have made this apparent.

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27141 Sister Mary Clarence Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:52:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27141 "They're nothing but selfish, self-serving sycophants who would sacrifice our rights for political expediency" - lovely, can we quote you on that? It does seem to re-enforce the point that a number of you seem to think that you're better than us.Equality indeed .... "They're nothing but selfish, self-serving sycophants who would sacrifice our rights for political expediency" – lovely, can we quote you on that? It does seem to re-enforce the point that a number of you seem to think that you're better than us.Equality indeed ….

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27142 Robert, ex-pat Brit Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:18:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27142 Zeke, I am a transplanted Brit living in the U.S. I feel exactly as you do. Whenever progressives such as you and I and others criticise what is wrong in either country, we are denigrated as too left wing and too liberal and unpatriotic. In other words, we don't love our country or countries because of it. They claim the moral high ground on just about everything. All they're interested in is lower taxes, accumulation of wealth and privatisation of just about everything that is decent in society, the things they take for granted and enjoy such as universal health care (in the UK), the military, law enforcement, fire brigade (department in the US),secondary (high school) and higher education, libraries....all forms of socialism that they enjoy. They're nothing but selfish, self-serving sycophants who would sacrifice our rights for political expediency. Zeke, I am a transplanted Brit living in the U.S. I feel exactly as you do. Whenever progressives such as you and I and others criticise what is wrong in either country, we are denigrated as too left wing and too liberal and unpatriotic. In other words, we don't love our country or countries because of it. They claim the moral high ground on just about everything. All they're interested in is lower taxes, accumulation of wealth and privatisation of just about everything that is decent in society, the things they take for granted and enjoy such as universal health care (in the UK), the military, law enforcement, fire brigade (department in the US),secondary (high school) and higher education, libraries….all forms of socialism that they enjoy. They're nothing but selfish, self-serving sycophants who would sacrifice our rights for political expediency.

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27143 Sister Mary Clarence Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:49:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27143 Sorry, should read 'portent' before you start kicking off Sorry, should read 'portent' before you start kicking off

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27144 Sister Mary Clarence Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:48:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27144 So, Zeke, slag me off and then call a truce, with some vague potent of bad things to come if I don’t. Forgive me for not biting your hand off.I have no interest in your ancestry and more than I have any interest in you. The fact that you’re the illegitimate son of a blind cobbler’s mistress who once won some tartan shortbread in a raffle does not make you a leading light in British political commentary I’m afraid.I stand by what I said that I believe that Conway’s son should not be pilloried for being gay. Justifying persecution of anyone is the thin end of the wedge. Where does it end and ultimately who makes the final decision. His story is littered with examples this. So, Zeke, slag me off and then call a truce, with some vague potent of bad things to come if I don’t. Forgive me for not biting your hand off.I have no interest in your ancestry and more than I have any interest in you. The fact that you’re the illegitimate son of a blind cobbler’s mistress who once won some tartan shortbread in a raffle does not make you a leading light in British political commentary I’m afraid.I stand by what I said that I believe that Conway’s son should not be pilloried for being gay. Justifying persecution of anyone is the thin end of the wedge. Where does it end and ultimately who makes the final decision. His story is littered with examples this.

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]]> By: Zeke http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27145 Zeke Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:29:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27145 How quaint and typical of blustering conservatives.Sister Mary Clarence, who loves to grandstand, attack and belittle those who disagree with her/him, then plays poor innocent victim when someone stands up to her/him and gives her/him a dose of his own medicine. By the way, which is it? Her? Him?We call those crocodile tears here in the States, what do you call them in the UK?Contrary to SMC's misconception and often repeated insinuation, I am a HUGE Brit-o-phile (My paternal grandparents came to America from Scotland). That's why I come to this site so often. If you think I am hard on politicians in the UK you should read some of my comments on American sites where I rant constantly about how screwed up our government and politicians are. The UK is LEAPS AND BOUNDS ahead of us on EVERY front. I fully realize that. I would LOVE to emigrate to England or Scotland but it is not feasible at this time. There at least my husband, me and our son would have SOME legal status. In Florida where I live we have NONE (my husband and I and my husband and our son are legal strangers). I am in the process of So, unlike SMC, I CHALLENGE things when I think they harm people, countries or things I love. I love America, I challenge people and policies that I feel are destroying her. I love the UK and do the same. I've never bought into the Republican/Tory/SMC delusion that challenging one’s world, one's country or one's politicians is unpatriotic, unacceptable or offensive. Strangely neither do they when liberals are in power.Sister, I'm willing to call a truce if you are. Just know that I can AND WILL give as good as I get.Either way, this will be my last comment on this thread. How quaint and typical of blustering conservatives.Sister Mary Clarence, who loves to grandstand, attack and belittle those who disagree with her/him, then plays poor innocent victim when someone stands up to her/him and gives her/him a dose of his own medicine. By the way, which is it? Her? Him?We call those crocodile tears here in the States, what do you call them in the UK?Contrary to SMC's misconception and often repeated insinuation, I am a HUGE Brit-o-phile (My paternal grandparents came to America from Scotland). That's why I come to this site so often. If you think I am hard on politicians in the UK you should read some of my comments on American sites where I rant constantly about how screwed up our government and politicians are. The UK is LEAPS AND BOUNDS ahead of us on EVERY front. I fully realize that. I would LOVE to emigrate to England or Scotland but it is not feasible at this time. There at least my husband, me and our son would have SOME legal status. In Florida where I live we have NONE (my husband and I and my husband and our son are legal strangers). I am in the process of So, unlike SMC, I CHALLENGE things when I think they harm people, countries or things I love. I love America, I challenge people and policies that I feel are destroying her. I love the UK and do the same. I've never bought into the Republican/Tory/SMC delusion that challenging one’s world, one's country or one's politicians is unpatriotic, unacceptable or offensive. Strangely neither do they when liberals are in power.Sister, I'm willing to call a truce if you are. Just know that I can AND WILL give as good as I get.Either way, this will be my last comment on this thread.

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27146 Sister Mary Clarence Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:29:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27146 Zeke - Section 28 - read up on Conway's voting record mate. He was absent from parliament for both votes in relation to Section 28 (along incidentally with quite a number of the now Labour cabinet).If you care to look closely at his voting record on gay issues you will see that in line with changing Tory policy his recent voting record is actually decidedly pro gay, having voted in favour of Civil Partnerships for example.None of which has anything really to do with his son being persecuted for being gay, which is the real issue here.Please feel free to come back with some irrelevant comparison to log cabin Republicans or Dick Chayne, as you tirelessly do. Zeke – Section 28 – read up on Conway's voting record mate. He was absent from parliament for both votes in relation to Section 28 (along incidentally with quite a number of the now Labour cabinet).If you care to look closely at his voting record on gay issues you will see that in line with changing Tory policy his recent voting record is actually decidedly pro gay, having voted in favour of Civil Partnerships for example.None of which has anything really to do with his son being persecuted for being gay, which is the real issue here.Please feel free to come back with some irrelevant comparison to log cabin Republicans or Dick Chayne, as you tirelessly do.

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27147 Sister Mary Clarence Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:12:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27147 Bill – “His unfailing defense of bigots” – I’m not aware the son is a bigot – perhaps again you have some insight 4000 miles away that is not so obvious over here.As for you Zeke, wrap it up however you will. Use whatever justification you need to. I have made it very clear that whatever his father has done the boy does not deserve to be vilified in the Press for being gay in my view. You clearly have a very different view and you seem to believe that you are somehow superior to me because we have differing views. It doesn’t make you a better person Zeke. The kid has no control over what his father thinks, says or votes in parliament. Hurl all the Troy troll, straw man insults you want, it won’t change that. It speaks volumes about the levels that gay activists in the States (i.e. you and your sidekick Bill) have sunk to that you condone the torture of a gay guy because of something you perceive his father to have or not to have done. Learn to have a little more respect for your fellow human beings and maybe your fellow Americans will show you a little more respect and start to grant you at least some of the many equalities we now enjoy in this country.History shows the politics of hatred are seldom victorious. Bill – “His unfailing defense of bigots” – I’m not aware the son is a bigot – perhaps again you have some insight 4000 miles away that is not so obvious over here.As for you Zeke, wrap it up however you will. Use whatever justification you need to. I have made it very clear that whatever his father has done the boy does not deserve to be vilified in the Press for being gay in my view. You clearly have a very different view and you seem to believe that you are somehow superior to me because we have differing views. It doesn’t make you a better person Zeke. The kid has no control over what his father thinks, says or votes in parliament. Hurl all the Troy troll, straw man insults you want, it won’t change that. It speaks volumes about the levels that gay activists in the States (i.e. you and your sidekick Bill) have sunk to that you condone the torture of a gay guy because of something you perceive his father to have or not to have done. Learn to have a little more respect for your fellow human beings and maybe your fellow Americans will show you a little more respect and start to grant you at least some of the many equalities we now enjoy in this country.History shows the politics of hatred are seldom victorious.

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]]> By: Zeke http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27148 Zeke Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:45:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27148 Oh, and lest you complain that I didn't answer your question...DEREK (you can't even SPELL the name of the man you're defending) Conway is whining and complaining that the press is beating up on his son with homophobic attacks in the form of articles, commentaries and editorials. I use the term "beating up" in the sense of VERBAL abuse (maybe that's an American thing like "apartment", "trunk" or "potato chip) and verbal homophobic attacks, which Mr. Conway HIMSELF complains his son is being subjected to by the press. Now go back to your Google search and find out how many times Mr. Conway "beat up" on other people's gay kids with homophobic laws (Like SECTION 28: even YOU would have to agree that this law was homophobic) and the rhetoric that accompanies homophobic votes.SMC’s head to explode in 4, 3, 2, 1… Oh, and lest you complain that I didn't answer your question…DEREK (you can't even SPELL the name of the man you're defending) Conway is whining and complaining that the press is beating up on his son with homophobic attacks in the form of articles, commentaries and editorials. I use the term "beating up" in the sense of VERBAL abuse (maybe that's an American thing like "apartment", "trunk" or "potato chip) and verbal homophobic attacks, which Mr. Conway HIMSELF complains his son is being subjected to by the press. Now go back to your Google search and find out how many times Mr. Conway "beat up" on other people's gay kids with homophobic laws (Like SECTION 28: even YOU would have to agree that this law was homophobic) and the rhetoric that accompanies homophobic votes.SMC’s head to explode in 4, 3, 2, 1…

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]]> By: Zeke http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27149 Zeke Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:24:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27149 BWAAAAH!OK Sister Mary Clarence, I've made up my mind about whether I find you sad, frightening or amusing; or more accurately YOU'VE made up my mind. I find you AMUSING, DEFINITELY amusing! You're too bat sh*t crazy for me to take seriously enough to be sad for or frightened of. In fact I suspect you aren't even for real, just a troll. Challenging you with reason gets the same reaction as poking a caged animal with a stick (except for the fact that the former is entertaining and amusing whereas the latter is just plain cruel).Regardless of the source of motivation for your vein popping rants, PLEASE keep them up! I can always use the laugh!PS. I see you have as much trouble writing in English as you do with comprehending it. That's just sad. BWAAAAH!OK Sister Mary Clarence, I've made up my mind about whether I find you sad, frightening or amusing; or more accurately YOU'VE made up my mind. I find you AMUSING, DEFINITELY amusing! You're too bat sh*t crazy for me to take seriously enough to be sad for or frightened of. In fact I suspect you aren't even for real, just a troll. Challenging you with reason gets the same reaction as poking a caged animal with a stick (except for the fact that the former is entertaining and amusing whereas the latter is just plain cruel).Regardless of the source of motivation for your vein popping rants, PLEASE keep them up! I can always use the laugh!PS. I see you have as much trouble writing in English as you do with comprehending it. That's just sad.

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]]> By: Chris Paul http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27150 Chris Paul Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:43:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27150 BTW: In terms of beating up anyone's gay son ... there are few MPs of any party enjoying ratings less than 26% on agreeing that gay people are equal and deserve equal treatment under the law."He's a lovely boy" said Derek "but deeply subhuman when it comes to rights and opportunities"."But we love him, as we do our hamster." BTW: In terms of beating up anyone's gay son … there are few MPs of any party enjoying ratings less than 26% on agreeing that gay people are equal and deserve equal treatment under the law."He's a lovely boy" said Derek "but deeply subhuman when it comes to rights and opportunities"."But we love him, as we do our hamster."

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]]> By: Chris Paul http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27151 Chris Paul Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:38:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27151 Fly round shit? Critting the Tories? Beautiful analogy sister. I'd rather be fly than shit/Tory. To be honest. Fly round shit? Critting the Tories? Beautiful analogy sister. I'd rather be fly than shit/Tory. To be honest.

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]]> By: Jen http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27152 Jen Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:40:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27152 Conway Junior doesn't deserve the opprobrium he is getting from the press; however Conway Senior pleading that the press are being homophobic deserves not one iota of sympathy from us: it's a culture of homophobia he has actively chosen to legislate in favour of. He has made his bed and can damn well lie in it. Conway Junior doesn't deserve the opprobrium he is getting from the press; however Conway Senior pleading that the press are being homophobic deserves not one iota of sympathy from us: it's a culture of homophobia he has actively chosen to legislate in favour of. He has made his bed and can damn well lie in it.

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]]> By: Bill Perdue http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27153 Bill Perdue Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:01:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27153 Zeke, your comments about Twisted Sister are to the point. His reactionary politics condemn him as a self loathing homophobe and his party as bigots. His unfailing defense of bigots and false attempts to equate GLBT rights with ‘special rights’ pits his slavish party loyalty against our common struggle for equality. When others comment on that he gets peevish and throws a fit. But to no avail. But you’re right; he’s not going to stop. If nothing else, he’s good for a laugh. And it’s not as if he’s actually fooling anyone. Most people see though his attempts to divert the discussion with personal attacks.I’m sorry to hear that the conservative bigots have succeeded in getting the antigay ballot initiative qualified for the November ballot in Florida. There‘ll be millions of new, younger, GLBT friendly voters this time around and hopefully that’ll help stop them. In large majorities youth reject the conservative bigots that oppose same sex marriage. Zeke, your comments about Twisted Sister are to the point. His reactionary politics condemn him as a self loathing homophobe and his party as bigots. His unfailing defense of bigots and false attempts to equate GLBT rights with ‘special rights’ pits his slavish party loyalty against our common struggle for equality. When others comment on that he gets peevish and throws a fit. But to no avail. But you’re right; he’s not going to stop. If nothing else, he’s good for a laugh. And it’s not as if he’s actually fooling anyone. Most people see though his attempts to divert the discussion with personal attacks.I’m sorry to hear that the conservative bigots have succeeded in getting the antigay ballot initiative qualified for the November ballot in Florida. There‘ll be millions of new, younger, GLBT friendly voters this time around and hopefully that’ll help stop them. In large majorities youth reject the conservative bigots that oppose same sex marriage.

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27154 Sister Mary Clarence Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:40:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27154 "I guess it's OK to beat up other people's law abiding gay kids as Mr. Conway has done".Could you clarify one which occasions Mr Conway has beaten up anyone's son, law abiding or otherwise?I've had a check on google and haven't managed to find anything, but no doubt over 4000 miles away, you'll have a much better idea about what's going on over here that we do.Conway was tossed out of the Conservative Party almost immediately his wrong doing was found out - not so the case for a host of Labour MPs recently on the fiddle. I didn't notice any posting from you on that subject when featured on here.First sniff of a story mentioning a Conservative and you're in there like a fly round shit. Whenever or whatever it is you're got some analogy to the Republican Party in the States.I for one and I'm sure many others do not give a flying f**k about Dick Cheney. He has no relevance to Derek Conway's son getting ripped apart by the press because he is gay.Then you have the cheek to call me a 'straw man'. If anyone is ever guilty of misrepresenting anyone else's position it is you. Whatever Conway or his son have or have not done the fact that the boy is gay is neither here nor there and it should not be used to pillory him in the Press.I notice all your brotherly solidarity and ‘our movement’ shit goes right out the window when it suits you. "I guess it's OK to beat up other people's law abiding gay kids as Mr. Conway has done".Could you clarify one which occasions Mr Conway has beaten up anyone's son, law abiding or otherwise?I've had a check on google and haven't managed to find anything, but no doubt over 4000 miles away, you'll have a much better idea about what's going on over here that we do.Conway was tossed out of the Conservative Party almost immediately his wrong doing was found out – not so the case for a host of Labour MPs recently on the fiddle. I didn't notice any posting from you on that subject when featured on here.First sniff of a story mentioning a Conservative and you're in there like a fly round shit. Whenever or whatever it is you're got some analogy to the Republican Party in the States.I for one and I'm sure many others do not give a flying f**k about Dick Cheney. He has no relevance to Derek Conway's son getting ripped apart by the press because he is gay.Then you have the cheek to call me a 'straw man'. If anyone is ever guilty of misrepresenting anyone else's position it is you. Whatever Conway or his son have or have not done the fact that the boy is gay is neither here nor there and it should not be used to pillory him in the Press.I notice all your brotherly solidarity and ‘our movement’ shit goes right out the window when it suits you.

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]]> By: Ryan Haynes http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27155 Ryan Haynes Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:20:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27155 here here Zeke! here here Zeke!

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]]> By: Zeke http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27156 Zeke Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:57:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27156 Sister Mary Clarence, your offensive ad hominem and straw-man based argument is ignorant and offensive but not at all unexpected.I didn't in any way support the homophobic attack on this man's son, as you scurrilously claimed. Invest some of your time and energy in some reading comprehension lessons. I did write in ENGLISH after all. I would expect you to be more familiar with the language. I pointed out that the Minister is hypocritical to take offense at homophobia directed at his son when he, through his voting record and past rhetoric, is guilty of homophobia directed against the entire gay community.The American version of this phenomenon is Dick Cheney.I can't decide whether I find your delusions sad, frightening or amusing. One thing I am certain of is that I'll have HUNDREDS of more examples of them in the comment section of PinkNews to help me make up my mind.Oh, and by the way, since you can’t comprehend English I should probably not assume that you might understand Latin.ad hominem: attacking an opponents character rather than answering his/her argument.And once again, not to make assumptions about your education or lack thereof, a “straw man” argument is one in which a person, not having a reasonable or intelligent way to refute an opponent’s point, creates an easily refutable point, assigns it to his/her opponent and then shoots IT down.You dear Sister are a Master of BOTH the ad hominem AND the straw man. Sister Mary Clarence, your offensive ad hominem and straw-man based argument is ignorant and offensive but not at all unexpected.I didn't in any way support the homophobic attack on this man's son, as you scurrilously claimed. Invest some of your time and energy in some reading comprehension lessons. I did write in ENGLISH after all. I would expect you to be more familiar with the language. I pointed out that the Minister is hypocritical to take offense at homophobia directed at his son when he, through his voting record and past rhetoric, is guilty of homophobia directed against the entire gay community.The American version of this phenomenon is Dick Cheney.I can't decide whether I find your delusions sad, frightening or amusing. One thing I am certain of is that I'll have HUNDREDS of more examples of them in the comment section of PinkNews to help me make up my mind.Oh, and by the way, since you can’t comprehend English I should probably not assume that you might understand Latin.ad hominem: attacking an opponents character rather than answering his/her argument.And once again, not to make assumptions about your education or lack thereof, a “straw man” argument is one in which a person, not having a reasonable or intelligent way to refute an opponent’s point, creates an easily refutable point, assigns it to his/her opponent and then shoots IT down.You dear Sister are a Master of BOTH the ad hominem AND the straw man.

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]]> By: David S http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27157 David S Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:02:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27157 Here Here! The first bit of common sense I've read about this debate. Conway's son's only mistake was naivety - not cynicism. Here Here! The first bit of common sense I've read about this debate. Conway's son's only mistake was naivety – not cynicism.

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]]> By: Bill Perdue http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27158 Bill Perdue Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:12:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27158 Young Henry Conway’s problems all stem from his father. The elder Conway is a typically homophobic Conservative swine. His party, the party of Section 28, routinely votes against measures to protect GLBT folk from hate speech and they pigheadedly oppose same sex marriage. Conservative Party politics help create and sustain the homophobia that victimized Henry Conway. When Derek Conway accurately accuses the press of homophobia he ought to admit that it’s his party that feeds bigotry. The elder Conway is also a typical sleazy politician who involved his family in corrupt practices and made the whole family an easy target for the tabloids. Our condolences to anyone unlucky enough to have a Conservative pig like him for a father. Especially one stupid enough to get caught. No wonder Cameron threw him under the bus. What good is he to the Conservatives if he can’t cover up a few scandals? Young Henry Conway’s problems all stem from his father. The elder Conway is a typically homophobic Conservative swine. His party, the party of Section 28, routinely votes against measures to protect GLBT folk from hate speech and they pigheadedly oppose same sex marriage. Conservative Party politics help create and sustain the homophobia that victimized Henry Conway. When Derek Conway accurately accuses the press of homophobia he ought to admit that it’s his party that feeds bigotry. The elder Conway is also a typical sleazy politician who involved his family in corrupt practices and made the whole family an easy target for the tabloids. Our condolences to anyone unlucky enough to have a Conservative pig like him for a father. Especially one stupid enough to get caught. No wonder Cameron threw him under the bus. What good is he to the Conservatives if he can’t cover up a few scandals?

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27159 Sister Mary Clarence Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:23:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6736.html#comment-27159 You're absolutely right Zeke, why don't we just kids to death the kids of any parent guilty of homophobia? They're obviously from a bad stock and need to take group responsibility for their parent/parents actions. Its bound to be hereditary, so we need to stop the bloodline.I don't know whether it is poppers or too many class A drugs that have caused it, but what sort of a f**ked up world are you living in over there where you think it is right to condone the persecution of a kid because of the actions of his/her parent. You're absolutely right Zeke, why don't we just kids to death the kids of any parent guilty of homophobia? They're obviously from a bad stock and need to take group responsibility for their parent/parents actions. Its bound to be hereditary, so we need to stop the bloodline.I don't know whether it is poppers or too many class A drugs that have caused it, but what sort of a f**ked up world are you living in over there where you think it is right to condone the persecution of a kid because of the actions of his/her parent.

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