Comments on: Homophobic mob attack Jamaican gay men http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: GabGirl http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-40637 GabGirl Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:40:09 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-40637 As I am both gay and Jamaican I find this article disturbing. Though not surprising. It is so ingrained in Jamaican culture that gay is a sin and should be punishable by death. The reggae culture is a reflection of that rather than vis versa as someone mentioned. It's sad and unfortuanate, but again not surprising. But despite this the country as a whole should not be written off as evil and homophobic. There are some forward thinking people JFLAG being a good example. There are plenty of horrible bigoted people in American yet we don't protest the whole country and all of it's goods. Jamaicans are far less educated about most things (let alone homosexuality) when compared to America. So cut us some slack and don't attack our whole country. Hold the individuals accountable please. As I am both gay and Jamaican I find this article disturbing. Though not surprising. It is so ingrained in Jamaican culture that gay is a sin and should be punishable by death. The reggae culture is a reflection of that rather than vis versa as someone mentioned. It's sad and unfortuanate, but again not surprising. But despite this the country as a whole should not be written off as evil and homophobic. There are some forward thinking people JFLAG being a good example. There are plenty of horrible bigoted people in American yet we don't protest the whole country and all of it's goods. Jamaicans are far less educated about most things (let alone homosexuality) when compared to America. So cut us some slack and don't attack our whole country. Hold the individuals accountable please.

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]]> By: editor http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27113 editor Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:28:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27113 I think you mean in the "so-called" Jamaican papers. They tend to ignore the hatred gay people live under int that "so-called" society. I have met and talked with Gareth about the hatred LGBT people face in Jamaica. I think you mean in the "so-called" Jamaican papers. They tend to ignore the hatred gay people live under int that "so-called" society. I have met and talked with Gareth about the hatred LGBT people face in Jamaica.

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]]> By: chinna chin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27114 chinna chin Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:53:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27114 i can't find any news stories about this so-called gay-beating invasion in any of the jamaican papers, and they are usually the first to report these things when they happen. Check your sources. These jflag people are known to bend the truth. i can't find any news stories about this so-called gay-beating invasion in any of the jamaican papers, and they are usually the first to report these things when they happen. Check your sources. These jflag people are known to bend the truth.

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]]> By: William - Dublin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27115 William - Dublin Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:33:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27115 Well, Trevor, lets correct that appallingly written little piece of rubbish, shall we? May you don't have "garbage gay" in your "Ja", but it seems you don't have a school either. So, listen up, my slow friend. Here goes:-"we dont play garbage gay in my Ja, all you all have to do is take it some where else."we all wrer grown up on the values of a male adam and eve relationship and not adam and steve.(1) The "we" on both lines, begins with a capital "W". (2) Adam and Eve are proper nouns, and hence also have a capitalisation, as does the name "Steve". (Incidentally, your name, "Trevor" is also a proper noun and should also begin with a capital letter. This is a useful point to remember when you are signing on at your local dole office.)(3) The word "wrer" doesn't exist, Trevor. May I suggest the word "were" is a better choice given the context of your sentence. (4) The use of the phrase "all grown up" very poor grammar, and a better choice would be "we were all brought up". (5) The expression "a male Adam and Eve" suggest that Adam and Eve are both male, which is incorrect also.Now, I wont even begin to address the actual nonsense of your statement, regardless of what "Ja" you were "grown up" in, as you clearly need to start the education process at an much earlier point, and hence we'll over look your stupid comments on "Adam and Steve"Although, I have considered that you might be retarded. Well, Trevor, lets correct that appallingly written little piece of rubbish, shall we? May you don't have "garbage gay" in your "Ja", but it seems you don't have a school either. So, listen up, my slow friend. Here goes:-"we dont play garbage gay in my Ja, all you all have to do is take it some where else."we all wrer grown up on the values of a male adam and eve relationship and not adam and steve.(1) The "we" on both lines, begins with a capital "W". (2) Adam and Eve are proper nouns, and hence also have a capitalisation, as does the name "Steve". (Incidentally, your name, "Trevor" is also a proper noun and should also begin with a capital letter. This is a useful point to remember when you are signing on at your local dole office.)(3) The word "wrer" doesn't exist, Trevor. May I suggest the word "were" is a better choice given the context of your sentence. (4) The use of the phrase "all grown up" very poor grammar, and a better choice would be "we were all brought up". (5) The expression "a male Adam and Eve" suggest that Adam and Eve are both male, which is incorrect also.Now, I wont even begin to address the actual nonsense of your statement, regardless of what "Ja" you were "grown up" in, as you clearly need to start the education process at an much earlier point, and hence we'll over look your stupid comments on "Adam and Steve"Although, I have considered that you might be retarded.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27116 Robert, ex-pat Brit Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:20:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27116 Trevor, whoever you are, if you believe in that fairy tale about Adam and Eve, then you also have to condone incest. Their children must have had sexual relations in order to people the earth, if you really believe that Adam and Eve were the first humans or parents. Go figure! Yours is a backward, primitive country. It was a good thing we gave you your independence. Next thing is to kick Jamaica out of the commonwealth and withhold any future financial aid to the tune of 7.5 million pounds, some of which are Gay taxe pounds. How's that for starters? Trevor, whoever you are, if you believe in that fairy tale about Adam and Eve, then you also have to condone incest. Their children must have had sexual relations in order to people the earth, if you really believe that Adam and Eve were the first humans or parents. Go figure! Yours is a backward, primitive country. It was a good thing we gave you your independence. Next thing is to kick Jamaica out of the commonwealth and withhold any future financial aid to the tune of 7.5 million pounds, some of which are Gay taxe pounds. How's that for starters?

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]]> By: trevor http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27117 trevor Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:46:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27117 we dont play garbage gay in my Ja, all you all have to do is take it some where else.we all wrer grown up on the values of a male adam and eve relationship and not adam and steve. sorry. we dont play garbage gay in my Ja, all you all have to do is take it some where else.we all wrer grown up on the values of a male adam and eve relationship and not adam and steve. sorry.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27118 Robert, ex-pat Brit Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:19:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27118 Omar, I will be more than happy to post anything I find that would be of interest to you and others. Omar, I will be more than happy to post anything I find that would be of interest to you and others.

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]]> By: World of Twist http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27119 World of Twist Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:32:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27119 I'm so disapointed that Louis isn't playing with us today.Do you think he is ever coming back?I think we might have frightened him away,Shame. I'm so disapointed that Louis isn't playing with us today.Do you think he is ever coming back?I think we might have frightened him away,Shame.

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]]> By: OMAR KUDDUS http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27120 OMAR KUDDUS Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:16:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27120 Thanks Robert, I seem to have missed that.Unfortunately our website is down as we have been inundated with viruses and irrelevant spam emails that look genuine and have corrupted the system.Hopefully it should be sorted out by next week.Anything else you find would be appreciated at Gayasylum@yahoo.co.uk or via the group page at Yahoo groups; Gayasylum UKRegards Thanks Robert, I seem to have missed that.Unfortunately our website is down as we have been inundated with viruses and irrelevant spam emails that look genuine and have corrupted the system.Hopefully it should be sorted out by next week.Anything else you find would be appreciated at @yahoo.co.uk">Gayasylum@yahoo.co.uk or via the group page at Yahoo groups; Gayasylum UKRegards

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27121 Robert, ex-pat Brit Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:14:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27121 Unrelated to anything, this is an encouraging story. Good luck and welcome to this brave young man. Unrelated to anything, this is an encouraging story. Good luck and welcome to this brave young man.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27122 Robert, ex-pat Brit Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:47:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27122 Omar, Louis' fascination with gay websites is revealing but obvious. As I say to most homophobes, closeted or otherwise....."takes a real man to do another". The "sissy" straights can't because they're limited, hungup unsophisticated, closed-minded and basically boring, often idiots and usually badly educated. Lot of clearance sales going on in their cranial department most of the time. Omar, Louis' fascination with gay websites is revealing but obvious. As I say to most homophobes, closeted or otherwise….."takes a real man to do another". The "sissy" straights can't because they're limited, hungup unsophisticated, closed-minded and basically boring, often idiots and usually badly educated. Lot of clearance sales going on in their cranial department most of the time.

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]]> By: OMAR KUDDUS http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27123 OMAR KUDDUS Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:41:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27123 Robert and World of Twist, its amazing how an homophobic moron seems to be enthralled with a gay site.Closeted, definitely. If curious, tough, and whats the fixation with “Enjoy a good Jamaica Dick”. One wonders if it’s out of personal experience.Or are you just afraid that we “homos” are really more of a man than you will ever be, and blinded by the hate of your religion. Robert and World of Twist, its amazing how an homophobic moron seems to be enthralled with a gay site.Closeted, definitely. If curious, tough, and whats the fixation with “Enjoy a good Jamaica Dick”. One wonders if it’s out of personal experience.Or are you just afraid that we “homos” are really more of a man than you will ever be, and blinded by the hate of your religion.

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]]> By: Omar Kuddus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27124 Omar Kuddus Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:32:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27124 Grow up and stop advertising, gaysinglehunt.com, Poop, aerbit, glan, fort, jubsin or whatever you want to next call yourself.Pasting others and blatantly advertising does not work here, for the majority of people are not morons. Grow up and stop advertising, gaysinglehunt.com, Poop, aerbit, glan, fort, jubsin or whatever you want to next call yourself.Pasting others and blatantly advertising does not work here, for the majority of people are not morons.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27125 Robert, ex-pat Brit Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:56:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27125 World of Twist, you are welcome!Antigay posters here are usually deeply conflicted, closeted gay men who can't accept who they are. In the United States, they are called Log Cabin republicans, neoconservative, arse-kissing sycophants who actually believe they can change their party from within. All they are interested in is self-preservation, their wealth, their fancy cars, second homes in the country, fine restaurants, designer clothes and their stock options. They support a party that legislates against them repeatedly, such as a ban on marriage equality in 27 states; they don't want us to enjoy any rights unless we become ex-gays and live a lie as straight, and they keep going back for more every general election. Now tell me if that's not sick, selfish and tantamount to self-loathing. They are in fact are the worst enemies of all, our own kind. World of Twist, you are welcome!Antigay posters here are usually deeply conflicted, closeted gay men who can't accept who they are. In the United States, they are called Log Cabin republicans, neoconservative, arse-kissing sycophants who actually believe they can change their party from within. All they are interested in is self-preservation, their wealth, their fancy cars, second homes in the country, fine restaurants, designer clothes and their stock options. They support a party that legislates against them repeatedly, such as a ban on marriage equality in 27 states; they don't want us to enjoy any rights unless we become ex-gays and live a lie as straight, and they keep going back for more every general election. Now tell me if that's not sick, selfish and tantamount to self-loathing. They are in fact are the worst enemies of all, our own kind.

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]]> By: jubsin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27126 jubsin Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:53:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27126 Britain should stop giving (our) financial aid or reducing its debts to the tune of £7.5 M a year, if it does not comply. Gay communities across the world should start a boycott of Jamaican products and using it as a holiday destination, for if nothing else we can show our disapproval by using our disposable income as a tool of protest.We should also urge retailers and institutions to boycott Jamaica too. i am a gay and my profile is on gaysinglehunt.com where i look for gay partner Britain should stop giving (our) financial aid or reducing its debts to the tune of £7.5 M a year, if it does not comply. Gay communities across the world should start a boycott of Jamaican products and using it as a holiday destination, for if nothing else we can show our disapproval by using our disposable income as a tool of protest.We should also urge retailers and institutions to boycott Jamaica too. i am a gay and my profile is on gaysinglehunt.com where i look for gay partner

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]]> By: World of Twist http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27127 World of Twist Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:02:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27127 Well said Omar and Robert XP,I think Louis' numerous postings and witty bon mots prompt the phrase-'me thinks my lady do'eth protest a little too much"His denial of home grown homos and projection of nastiness onto outside influences suggest that Louis feels a threat to his masculinity here.I mean three posts on a gay site and one of them recommends "dick"...Hello. done take Agatha bloody Christie to work this one out.Or is it merely an affront to national pride, either way trying to define oneself by vociferously claiming what you are not always rings pretty hollow. Well said Omar and Robert XP,I think Louis' numerous postings and witty bon mots prompt the phrase-'me thinks my lady do'eth protest a little too much"His denial of home grown homos and projection of nastiness onto outside influences suggest that Louis feels a threat to his masculinity here.I mean three posts on a gay site and one of them recommends "dick"…Hello. done take Agatha bloody Christie to work this one out.Or is it merely an affront to national pride, either way trying to define oneself by vociferously claiming what you are not always rings pretty hollow.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27128 Robert, ex-pat Brit Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:51:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27128 Omar, good point. Better yet, we should get rid of the commonwealth and let them fend for themselves. Who needs that crap? Bunch of ungrateful bastards. Omar, good point. Better yet, we should get rid of the commonwealth and let them fend for themselves. Who needs that crap? Bunch of ungrateful bastards.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27129 Robert, ex-pat Brit Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:49:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27129 Louis, why are you trolling (assuming you know the meaning of the word) on a "batty" boy and girl website? Come out of that dark hole of a closet you're in. Why are you obsessing about gay men and women? Jealous or upset? You live in a backwards thinking society. Check out www.fallwell.com and take a look at the hypocrisy that you and others espouse. Get your own house in order before villifying us and practice what the "good" book preaches, you moron! Louis, why are you trolling (assuming you know the meaning of the word) on a "batty" boy and girl website? Come out of that dark hole of a closet you're in. Why are you obsessing about gay men and women? Jealous or upset? You live in a backwards thinking society. Check out http://www.fallwell.com and take a look at the hypocrisy that you and others espouse. Get your own house in order before villifying us and practice what the "good" book preaches, you moron!

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]]> By: OMAR KUDDUS http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27130 OMAR KUDDUS Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:11:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27130 Lousi, What you show is pure homophobia and intolerance, primarily based on religious beliefs, and ignorance.Religious beliefs may be paramount, but it does not mean that it can sustain and maintain Jamaica, and like it or not there is a large percentage of gay Jamaican, who lives in the Island and deserves to be respected.Sexuality has nothing to do with the person, as much as the colour of your sin does not make you who you are. Or do you think that the world should discriminate and treat you differently just because you are coloured. I doubt it.As for the money issue, Jamaica NEEDS the annual 7.5M £ relief (from Britain) or the country would be bankrupt, so please do not even think that way. Britain is NOT the ONLY country that gives relief and if you want the whole of the worlds to avoid Jamaica, could you please explain how the economy would sustain itself and its government. Lousi, What you show is pure homophobia and intolerance, primarily based on religious beliefs, and ignorance.Religious beliefs may be paramount, but it does not mean that it can sustain and maintain Jamaica, and like it or not there is a large percentage of gay Jamaican, who lives in the Island and deserves to be respected.Sexuality has nothing to do with the person, as much as the colour of your sin does not make you who you are. Or do you think that the world should discriminate and treat you differently just because you are coloured. I doubt it.As for the money issue, Jamaica NEEDS the annual 7.5M £ relief (from Britain) or the country would be bankrupt, so please do not even think that way. Britain is NOT the ONLY country that gives relief and if you want the whole of the worlds to avoid Jamaica, could you please explain how the economy would sustain itself and its government.

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]]> By: Louis http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27131 Louis Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:05:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6735.html#comment-27131 Wendy I am disappointed in you, claiming to be a Jamaican adds no strength to the point you were trying to make. I am sure when u 1st left Jamaica the 1st thing you attempted was to loose your accent. It shows, you are easily lead, no backbone, certainly not a leader. You need to drop the nastiness comeback to Jamaica and be a real Jamaican. Enjoy a good Jamaica Dick Wendy I am disappointed in you, claiming to be a Jamaican adds no strength to the point you were trying to make. I am sure when u 1st left Jamaica the 1st thing you attempted was to loose your accent. It shows, you are easily lead, no backbone, certainly not a leader. You need to drop the nastiness comeback to Jamaica and be a real Jamaican. Enjoy a good Jamaica Dick

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