Comments on: Christian MP defends opposition to gay hate law http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:02:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Paul http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25784 Paul Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:39:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25784 So as usual the church demands exemption....it really makes me sick to be honest!! This world would be a lot better place if there was no such thing.I also love how religion is a choice as proven by Tony Blair converting to being a catholic to keep the wife happy and even Ann Widdecombe converted when the church of England pissed her off and allowed female priests......yet I've never felt I had a choice over my sexuality!! Wasn't it what's his face who said on Christmas day in his little sermon that we should embrace diversity? Is that only as long as it isn't homosexuality? What a bunch of hypocrites!!It really is time religion kept it's fucking nose out of the laws of the land!!! So as usual the church demands exemption….it really makes me sick to be honest!! This world would be a lot better place if there was no such thing.I also love how religion is a choice as proven by Tony Blair converting to being a catholic to keep the wife happy and even Ann Widdecombe converted when the church of England pissed her off and allowed female priests……yet I've never felt I had a choice over my sexuality!! Wasn't it what's his face who said on Christmas day in his little sermon that we should embrace diversity? Is that only as long as it isn't homosexuality? What a bunch of hypocrites!!It really is time religion kept it's fucking nose out of the laws of the land!!!

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]]> By: Malcolm Lidbury http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25785 Malcolm Lidbury Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:20:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25785 Forgive me OmarI did not realise that the legislation was down to you...as to your plight regarding your partner...only today on 'youtube' I saw a picture of two young men 16yrs old 18yrs old, who were executed by hanging in 2005 in their Muslim home country, it reduced me to tears.Their crime...they were alleged to be GAY!You your partner have my best wishes...and is there anything I can do...as I post to a LOT of websites. Forgive me OmarI did not realise that the legislation was down to you…as to your plight regarding your partner…only today on 'youtube' I saw a picture of two young men 16yrs old 18yrs old, who were executed by hanging in 2005 in their Muslim home country, it reduced me to tears.Their crime…they were alleged to be GAY!You your partner have my best wishes…and is there anything I can do…as I post to a LOT of websites.

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]]> By: Omar Kuddus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25786 Omar Kuddus Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:48:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25786 Robert, The question of allowing Christian MP’s the right to be able to defend opposition to gay hate law, however is simpleScream that I am being blasphemous, fine. But understand and be prepared to take as good as they give, for my and your Civil and EU Parliamentary Rights give us the statutory rights to defend ourselves against their hatred.Please also see the Actual facts to CoA’s posted by me, earlier on Brighton’s 100th Civil Partnership Robert, The question of allowing Christian MP’s the right to be able to defend opposition to gay hate law, however is simpleScream that I am being blasphemous, fine. But understand and be prepared to take as good as they give, for my and your Civil and EU Parliamentary Rights give us the statutory rights to defend ourselves against their hatred.Please also see the Actual facts to CoA’s posted by me, earlier on Brighton’s 100th Civil Partnership

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]]> By: anon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25787 anon Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:37:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25787 Cornwall and devon policethis might sound a bit lame but re the cornwall and Devon police situation. Has any one thought of starting an e petition on the no10 web site? Mr Browns portal , just google e petition no10. I would sign it and I sure many others would. People do take note of these, esp if we could get a few thousand signings Cornwall and devon policethis might sound a bit lame but re the cornwall and Devon police situation. Has any one thought of starting an e petition on the no10 web site? Mr Browns portal , just google e petition no10. I would sign it and I sure many others would. People do take note of these, esp if we could get a few thousand signings

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25788 Robert, ex-pat Brit Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:18:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25788 Omar, yes, you're so right, our government would definitely repatriate a gay muslim back to Iran to face execution and it would do it without any conscience. Apologists for our policies can say what they want, just because someone remains in our country illegally fleeing persecution, I don't think any of them here would come out in support of lets say, you're boyfriend being returned to face possible death. That they would probably do nothing because it doesn't affect them directly and its not their partner, government included, would make them all complicit in sanctioning murder. Its shameful, disgraceful, an abomination and a violation of basic human rights, and demonstrates a total lack of compassion and common decency for any socalled caring, civilised society. It disgusts me. Omar, yes, you're so right, our government would definitely repatriate a gay muslim back to Iran to face execution and it would do it without any conscience. Apologists for our policies can say what they want, just because someone remains in our country illegally fleeing persecution, I don't think any of them here would come out in support of lets say, you're boyfriend being returned to face possible death. That they would probably do nothing because it doesn't affect them directly and its not their partner, government included, would make them all complicit in sanctioning murder. Its shameful, disgraceful, an abomination and a violation of basic human rights, and demonstrates a total lack of compassion and common decency for any socalled caring, civilised society. It disgusts me.

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]]> By: Omar Kuddus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25789 Omar Kuddus Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:30:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25789 Robert, ex-pat Brit,You know my views about the inequalities we face because of our sexuality.Look at what we are going through with the Home Office (despite what certain individuals may have said regarding Certificate of Approvals: see my comments about it later under Brighton hosts its 1000th civil) The so called Christians may want to rule our lives but as I said they have to be made aware that we too have our own rights as protected by articles 13 and 14 of the EUHRA and blasphemy or not breach them and feel the consequences.And the day “these laws will also protect British Muslims to call for the execution of gays here and elsewhere?” will never come. For that would be classified as inciting hatred.But then what does the British Government care if a few gays die or are tortured or executed.They have been sending them back to Iran knowing full well that they shall be executed (having been told by Iranian Ministers to British MP’s in May 2007). Robert, ex-pat Brit,You know my views about the inequalities we face because of our sexuality.Look at what we are going through with the Home Office (despite what certain individuals may have said regarding Certificate of Approvals: see my comments about it later under Brighton hosts its 1000th civil) The so called Christians may want to rule our lives but as I said they have to be made aware that we too have our own rights as protected by articles 13 and 14 of the EUHRA and blasphemy or not breach them and feel the consequences.And the day “these laws will also protect British Muslims to call for the execution of gays here and elsewhere?” will never come. For that would be classified as inciting hatred.But then what does the British Government care if a few gays die or are tortured or executed.They have been sending them back to Iran knowing full well that they shall be executed (having been told by Iranian Ministers to British MP’s in May 2007).

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]]> By: Omar Kuddus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25790 Omar Kuddus Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:04:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25790 Malcolm, It is not as complex as it sounds or looks and if anyone knows this particular law and its implication backwards and what it can do or not is me.For I gather you realised that it is under my name that the law is based and was instigated in the House of Lords by me.If I can be of any assistance please email me at gayasylum@youhoo.co.uk and I shall try my best to be of assistance.In particular with “peters” case for if you have read my comments, and you knew anything about the current situation that we ourselves are in at present regarding my partner, you have no idea how hard I have had to become seeing graphic images from Iran. However his plight brought me to tears and one of the reasons I have insisted that the Junior Minister see it, as I have been assured he has.I wish you the best of success and the offer is open for whatever I can help with. Malcolm, It is not as complex as it sounds or looks and if anyone knows this particular law and its implication backwards and what it can do or not is me.For I gather you realised that it is under my name that the law is based and was instigated in the House of Lords by me.If I can be of any assistance please email me at @youhoo.co.uk">gayasylum@youhoo.co.uk and I shall try my best to be of assistance.In particular with “peters” case for if you have read my comments, and you knew anything about the current situation that we ourselves are in at present regarding my partner, you have no idea how hard I have had to become seeing graphic images from Iran. However his plight brought me to tears and one of the reasons I have insisted that the Junior Minister see it, as I have been assured he has.I wish you the best of success and the offer is open for whatever I can help with.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25791 Robert, ex-pat Brit Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:02:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25791 Omar, I too am against censorship of any kind but if any group uses hate speech to incite violence and/or the commission of murder as a result of such speech, then I think that's a whole different issue. We saw what happened in Nazi Germany when an entire group of people were disenfranchised and sent to their deaths while the world looked the other way.Left to go unchecked, this kind of speech is a dangerous precedent. Hate speech does in fact engender violence and gives a platform and a motive for those most likely to give into criminal activity.Now that these socalled christians want their right to denigrate us or our lives, then they'd better be prepared for the invectives they will get from us, at one time called blasphemy. I have no problem with that, please or offend. Fair is fair.By the same token, I assume these laws will also protect British muslims to call for the execution of gays here and elsewhere? Omar, I too am against censorship of any kind but if any group uses hate speech to incite violence and/or the commission of murder as a result of such speech, then I think that's a whole different issue. We saw what happened in Nazi Germany when an entire group of people were disenfranchised and sent to their deaths while the world looked the other way.Left to go unchecked, this kind of speech is a dangerous precedent. Hate speech does in fact engender violence and gives a platform and a motive for those most likely to give into criminal activity.Now that these socalled christians want their right to denigrate us or our lives, then they'd better be prepared for the invectives they will get from us, at one time called blasphemy. I have no problem with that, please or offend. Fair is fair.By the same token, I assume these laws will also protect British muslims to call for the execution of gays here and elsewhere?

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]]> By: Malcolm Lidbury http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25792 Malcolm Lidbury Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:34:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25792 Dear OmarThank you. I've had a brief look (looks complex) however a civil action against:- 1. Devon Cornwall Constabulary on multiple counts looks a possiblity. I have the two IPCC enquiry reports as a basis and the twenty two reccomendations made by the IPCC against Devon Cornwall Constabulary(not that Cornwall police took any notice of the IPCC...NOT that the IPCC investigated properly or fully to start with). Plus forty eight written witness statements.2. Civil Action against Cornwall Social Services by 'Peter' looks another possibility for their gross neglect and failure in their duty of care when he was 15yrs old living rough on the streets. (We still have the tape recording of the attempted blackmail by the Cornwall social worker police officer)Thank you, I had never heard the term before. Dear OmarThank you. I've had a brief look (looks complex) however a civil action against:- 1. Devon Cornwall Constabulary on multiple counts looks a possiblity. I have the two IPCC enquiry reports as a basis and the twenty two reccomendations made by the IPCC against Devon Cornwall Constabulary(not that Cornwall police took any notice of the IPCC…NOT that the IPCC investigated properly or fully to start with). Plus forty eight written witness statements.2. Civil Action against Cornwall Social Services by 'Peter' looks another possibility for their gross neglect and failure in their duty of care when he was 15yrs old living rough on the streets. (We still have the tape recording of the attempted blackmail by the Cornwall social worker police officer)Thank you, I had never heard the term before.

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]]> By: Omar Kuddus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25793 Omar Kuddus Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:34:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25793 I am instinctively pro free speech and against bans and censorship. However I also believe in defending the rights of minority communities to be spared intimidation of the far right, or any institutional body, in this case homophobic Christians and MP’s.Free speech is got to be the ideal, but it is not absolute. For there can may be, a small number of circumstances where free speech can be legitimately limited to protect communities and individuals, as it is already generally accepted that free speech does not include people to be allowed to or incite violence or murder nor falsely libel a individual.Restricting free speech may be undesirable, but it is sometimes the lesser of two evils.It brings the question of if the Nazi’s had been denied free speech they may not have grown in influence and strength, denying them the opportunity to gain respectability, propagandise and enter the political mainstream and possibly thereby thwarted their rise to power and its consequences.One though has to give weight to Article 10: FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION that grants everyone the right to freedom of expression. As long as it does NOT contravene article 13 (Right to an effective Remedy) and Article 14 (Prohibition on Discrimination) of the said EU Human Rights Act that is part of British statutory law. I am instinctively pro free speech and against bans and censorship. However I also believe in defending the rights of minority communities to be spared intimidation of the far right, or any institutional body, in this case homophobic Christians and MP’s.Free speech is got to be the ideal, but it is not absolute. For there can may be, a small number of circumstances where free speech can be legitimately limited to protect communities and individuals, as it is already generally accepted that free speech does not include people to be allowed to or incite violence or murder nor falsely libel a individual.Restricting free speech may be undesirable, but it is sometimes the lesser of two evils.It brings the question of if the Nazi’s had been denied free speech they may not have grown in influence and strength, denying them the opportunity to gain respectability, propagandise and enter the political mainstream and possibly thereby thwarted their rise to power and its consequences.One though has to give weight to Article 10: FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION that grants everyone the right to freedom of expression. As long as it does NOT contravene article 13 (Right to an effective Remedy) and Article 14 (Prohibition on Discrimination) of the said EU Human Rights Act that is part of British statutory law.

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]]> By: apYrs http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25794 apYrs Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:24:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25794 If this MP were campaigning against the same rights for BME people his whip would be removed sooooo fast! Words are easy, why no action against homophobes in the LibDem party? If this MP were campaigning against the same rights for BME people his whip would be removed sooooo fast! Words are easy, why no action against homophobes in the LibDem party?

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]]> By: Omar Kuddus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25795 Omar Kuddus Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:59:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25795 Malcolm,If you googol Misfeasance in Public Office [2001] UKHL 29 it should give you a good basis to deal with the “BUCKET load of HOMOPHOBIC corruption in Cornwall to be investigated PROPERLY”.This would also apply to “the Criminal Justice Board and its homophobic attitude AGAINST gay persons.” And “ Judge Rucker stating that the age of consent came into effect with the Sexual Offences Act 2003”. I know what you mean in regards to the “Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)” but taking a civil suit out is not as complicated and normally guarantees success, when based upon presidents, made in the House of Lords.My best wishes and hope you find the information advantageous. Malcolm,If you googol Misfeasance in Public Office [2001] UKHL 29 it should give you a good basis to deal with the “BUCKET load of HOMOPHOBIC corruption in Cornwall to be investigated PROPERLY”.This would also apply to “the Criminal Justice Board and its homophobic attitude AGAINST gay persons.” And “ Judge Rucker stating that the age of consent came into effect with the Sexual Offences Act 2003”. I know what you mean in regards to the “Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)” but taking a civil suit out is not as complicated and normally guarantees success, when based upon presidents, made in the House of Lords.My best wishes and hope you find the information advantageous.

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]]> By: Malcolm Lidbury http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25796 Malcolm Lidbury Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:33:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25796 Oh you would not believe how CORRUPT the Cornwall police misconduct has been!Police have tried repeatedly to have my threads removed from some websites on these matters trying to raise awareness of the problems..with some success.This in itself has been an abuse of police power since some webmasters cow down to police.The hostility on the gay site 'outeverywhere' to even the concept that the police are still as homophobic as they are in Cornwall was intimidating to say the least..and as for the attitude of the GPA.Seemingly I should not get as upset and passionate as I do after FOUR years of intensive Cornwall police violations, abuse, intimidation, lies, threats, unlogged visits, attempts by police to mislead court of law, ignoring of evidence, ignoring of witnesses, destruction of both my legitimate business by police, etc. etc.Its a long list of police atrocities!UNQUESTIONABLY, The MOST likely person to carry out a homophobically motivated HATE CRIME against me as a gay person in Cornwall...will carry a Devon Cornwall police warrant card! Oh you would not believe how CORRUPT the Cornwall police misconduct has been!Police have tried repeatedly to have my threads removed from some websites on these matters trying to raise awareness of the problems..with some success.This in itself has been an abuse of police power since some webmasters cow down to police.The hostility on the gay site 'outeverywhere' to even the concept that the police are still as homophobic as they are in Cornwall was intimidating to say the least..and as for the attitude of the GPA.Seemingly I should not get as upset and passionate as I do after FOUR years of intensive Cornwall police violations, abuse, intimidation, lies, threats, unlogged visits, attempts by police to mislead court of law, ignoring of evidence, ignoring of witnesses, destruction of both my legitimate business by police, etc. etc.Its a long list of police atrocities!UNQUESTIONABLY, The MOST likely person to carry out a homophobically motivated HATE CRIME against me as a gay person in Cornwall…will carry a Devon Cornwall police warrant card!

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]]> By: Malcolm Lidbury http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25797 Malcolm Lidbury Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:19:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25797 ..Oh! Just as an additional note. The successful 2007 Cornwall Gay Pride Beach Day steering group has disbanded following arrest of one of the primary members (NO CHARGES) and the genuine fears of CONTINUING Homophobic conduct, reprisal abuse practises of NUMEROUS Cornwall police officers!It may be CUSHY inside the M25 gay ghetto for the members of Stonewall, but I really wish they'd look at provincial Institutional Authority Homophobia as is so prevelent in Cornwall.I'm sure Angela Mason would have done in her time! ..Oh! Just as an additional note. The successful 2007 Cornwall Gay Pride Beach Day steering group has disbanded following arrest of one of the primary members (NO CHARGES) and the genuine fears of CONTINUING Homophobic conduct, reprisal abuse practises of NUMEROUS Cornwall police officers!It may be CUSHY inside the M25 gay ghetto for the members of Stonewall, but I really wish they'd look at provincial Institutional Authority Homophobia as is so prevelent in Cornwall.I'm sure Angela Mason would have done in her time!

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25798 Robert, ex-pat Brit Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:12:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25798 Malcolm, has this been addressed to the powers that be in London? This is an outrage. Is Stonewall doing anything to help? Malcolm, has this been addressed to the powers that be in London? This is an outrage. Is Stonewall doing anything to help?

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]]> By: Malcolm Lidbury http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25799 Malcolm Lidbury Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:42:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25799 Oh...GOOD!There is a BUCKET load of HOMOPHOBIC corruption in Cornwall to be investigated PROPERLY...especially conduct by Cornwall CID police officers, the police officers involved in a homophobic assault on Flora Day in Helston 2006, police officers involved in abuse of a gay youth his pensioner landlady, attempted blackmail, refusal of police to interview gay witnesses, refusal of police to act on gay witness statements, ignoring of physicl material evidence.Not to mention the Criminal Justice Board and its homophobic attitude AGAINST gay persons. Judge Rucker stating that the age of consent came into effect with the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (effective May 1st 2004).WRONG judgey babes..The Equal Age of Consent came into effect 1st January 2001...BUT this is the sort of 2nd rate gay equality which EXISTS in Cornwall.YEP, there is a BUCKET load of HOMOPHOBIC corruption by the Authorities in Cornwall to be investigated...but Don't bother with the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)..they ignore witnesses, ignore evidence...well basically ignore complaints.We know, we've tried! Oh…GOOD!There is a BUCKET load of HOMOPHOBIC corruption in Cornwall to be investigated PROPERLY…especially conduct by Cornwall CID police officers, the police officers involved in a homophobic assault on Flora Day in Helston 2006, police officers involved in abuse of a gay youth his pensioner landlady, attempted blackmail, refusal of police to interview gay witnesses, refusal of police to act on gay witness statements, ignoring of physicl material evidence.Not to mention the Criminal Justice Board and its homophobic attitude AGAINST gay persons. Judge Rucker stating that the age of consent came into effect with the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (effective May 1st 2004).WRONG judgey babes..The Equal Age of Consent came into effect 1st January 2001…BUT this is the sort of 2nd rate gay equality which EXISTS in Cornwall.YEP, there is a BUCKET load of HOMOPHOBIC corruption by the Authorities in Cornwall to be investigated…but Don't bother with the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)..they ignore witnesses, ignore evidence…well basically ignore complaints.We know, we've tried!

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]]> By: Omar Kuddus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25800 Omar Kuddus Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:08:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25800 Malcolm,I have had a reply back from Kevin Brennan’s assistant, James Knight, who has assured me that the Junior Minister will / has vied the link to Peters story, and his plight shall not have gone unnoticed.Thank you again for bringing it to the community’s attention. Malcolm,I have had a reply back from Kevin Brennan’s assistant, James Knight, who has assured me that the Junior Minister will / has vied the link to Peters story, and his plight shall not have gone unnoticed.Thank you again for bringing it to the community’s attention.

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]]> By: Malcolm Lidbury http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25801 Malcolm Lidbury Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:20:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25801 Andrew George Mp (in Cornwall)also unsupportive of homeless gay youth in Cornwall!!! Its NOT just Lib Dem Colin Breed.See video on Institutional Abuse of Gay Youth in Cornwall:-Cornwall is still the butt end of Gay Equality in the United Kingdom with RAMPANT Homophobic attitudes practises within the Cornwall police force.To be fair Dan Rogerson Mp Mathew Taylor Mp have been most supportive of gay equality issues in Cornwall.However, Search 'GAY CORNWALL' on youtube to get a flavour of the ENDEMIC Institutional Homophobia which still thrives in this PROVINCIAL BACKWARD COUNTY....or visit the Andrew George Mp (in Cornwall)also unsupportive of homeless gay youth in Cornwall!!! Its NOT just Lib Dem Colin Breed.See video on Institutional Abuse of Gay Youth in Cornwall:-Cornwall is still the butt end of Gay Equality in the United Kingdom with RAMPANT Homophobic attitudes practises within the Cornwall police force.To be fair Dan Rogerson Mp Mathew Taylor Mp have been most supportive of gay equality issues in Cornwall.However, Search 'GAY CORNWALL' on youtube to get a flavour of the ENDEMIC Institutional Homophobia which still thrives in this PROVINCIAL BACKWARD COUNTY….or visit the

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]]> By: dave http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25802 dave Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:11:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25802 quote... If you are a preacher and on Sunday morning you tell your sermon of your beliefs and the beliefs of your denomination about gay people then that's different to going and standing outside a gay club and using threatening words and behaviouris it....does not one lead to the other, did not the person who is bereating people outside a gay club get his views from some where. Has this person never heard of the "church " that goes under the title, god hates f++s. Ok another country but still a religious ideal that has spawned in to hatred towards us. People the clues are there. Equality is equailty, full stop! incitment is incitment full stop,be it from a pulpit or street corner. Be it by a voice of so called understanding and compassion , or by a youth that roughly spews it from their miseducated gob.Taking of which , please forgive spelling???? quote… If you are a preacher and on Sunday morning you tell your sermon of your beliefs and the beliefs of your denomination about gay people then that's different to going and standing outside a gay club and using threatening words and behaviouris it….does not one lead to the other, did not the person who is bereating people outside a gay club get his views from some where. Has this person never heard of the "church " that goes under the title, god hates f++s. Ok another country but still a religious ideal that has spawned in to hatred towards us. People the clues are there. Equality is equailty, full stop! incitment is incitment full stop,be it from a pulpit or street corner. Be it by a voice of so called understanding and compassion , or by a youth that roughly spews it from their miseducated gob.Taking of which , please forgive spelling????

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]]> By: anon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html/comment-page-1/#comment-25803 anon Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:55:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6450.html#comment-25803 this countrys idea of equality is what "they" see as being equal and what "they" are prepeared to let us have as equality. ON that grounds there never will be true equality in this counrty ....ever! this countrys idea of equality is what "they" see as being equal and what "they" are prepeared to let us have as equality. ON that grounds there never will be true equality in this counrty ….ever!

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