Comments on: C4 cleared over Muslim gay-hate documentary

By: Omar Kuddus

Omar Kuddus — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:50:00 +0000

Neville,The Koran does not state ANYWHERE OR SANCTION the violent murder, torture or even persecution of homosexuals. But like all religions the clerics own interpretation of the gospel/ teaching (normally to their own advantage or agendas) to their understandings and beliefs, and thus make oppression and domination acceptable.I am a Muslim (and proud of it) but adapt my religion to the true wordings, and live my life as best as I can, for as stated no one on earth has the right to judge me or how I live my life.My partner (a Kurdish Iranian failed Asylum seeker who I have been trying to form a civil partnership with for the past two years) has brought home to me the true nature of how religion can be used to persecute and murder, but it’s the individual / or government who is hiding behind the faith and not the teachings itself.Even Iran (And, although the Islamic Republic of Iran is one of only nine countries in which homosexuality is still punishable by death and we all know its views about homosexuality and how to deal with its problems) who systematically persecutes homosexuals recently declared it to be illegal."Iran's chief justice, Ayatollah Seyed Mahmoud Hashemi Shahrudi, declared Makwan's death sentence to be against the principles of Islam, citing a religious decree issued by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei. Ayatollah Shahrudi then ordered the execution halted until there could be a retrial." Then in a statement reminiscent to that of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's infamous claim in New York that "there are no homosexuals in Iran," on December 11 the ISNA news agency reported that a spokesman for the Judiciary, Dr. Alireza Jamshidi, claimed, "The chief justice did not issue an order to stop his [Makwan's] execution." But not only did Khalatbari report the existence of that order, both Makwan's lawyer and the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission have copies of the official legal documents containing it.So is it Iran, Islam, the Cleric or Governments that are responsible for the persecution, torture and state sanctioned murder and oppression?You will find that Islam is one of the most tolerant religions and does not condone or promote violence or such barbaric acts carried out in its name.Take time to Google my name and read all I have said and done regarding Gay rights and not only for Muslims.

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By: Neville

Neville — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:18:00 +0000

Yes, Omar, but is it not the case that the Koran sanctions the violent murder of homosexuals? I sympathize with your position, but, as I believe that religious faith is a mental illness, I cannot really understand how you can remain part of what I see as an evil religion. I call Islam evil not just because of its attitude to homosexuals but also because of its attitude to woman and to apostasy.

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By: OMAR

OMAR — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:07:00 +0000

How many more young Muslims have to die and be subjected to ridicule and persecution before the British Government takes action and says enough is enough.?Its time that the Muslim gay community finally opens our mouths and show our protests and disgust, and make ourselves heard that such barbaric behaviour is not acceptable. The Iranian Minister Mohsen Yahyavi ( who is the highest-ranked politician to admit that Iran believes in the death penalty for homosexuality) told British MP’s at the Inter-Parliamentary Union in May this year, that homosexuals should be executed [he initially said tortured but changed it to executed]. And Iran has again kept its word, despite President Ahmadinejad, questioned by students in New York two months ago about the executions, claimed there were no gays in Iran.For it is only by chance and the roll of the dice, that we are not born in Iran ( or other Islamic states), that we here in the west are not in their shoes and facing the same persecution, torture and death for our sexuality.I am gay but am also a Muslim, and find that my religion allows me to be judged by one and one only. God himself. So the clerics can say what they want, for they are not the law, Islam is. As the first line in the Koran states, he is merciful and forgiving.

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By: Robert, ex-pat Brit

Robert, ex-pat Brit — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:43:00 +0000

Luke, exactly right. I hear nothing coming from any moderate Islamic leader assuming there are such people, though I doubt it. Silence certainly does give consent.

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:24:00 +0000

I agree with all the aforementioned. Islam seems to be even more of a threat to freedom and democracy than fundamentalist Christianity. They both must be contained.

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By: Luke

Luke — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:42:00 +0000

Where were all the moderate muslim leaders we always hear about to condemn this hatred preached in the mosques?Why were there no stories of the moderate muslim congregation walking out en-masse when hearing this Nazi policy of genocide preached in their name?Their silence speaks volumes about what mainstream Islam (not just the extremists)has in store for us.

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By: Gary

Gary — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:26:00 +0000

So Channel 4 broadcast's a documentary that shows muslim leaders calling for gay's to be killed… and all that the West Midland Police are worried about is the program offending muslim's!!! What the fuck?Hey Mr Policeman, I'M offended by muslim's calling for my death!!!!How bout doing something about that???

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By: Neville

Neville — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:58:00 +0000

Islam is a savage religion suitable only for primitives who should not be in a civilized western country.

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By: Naomi

Naomi — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:08:00 +0000

If the Muslim community don't like what they saw, instead of complaining to Ofcom they should deal with their own extremists and potential terrorists. They're very good at preaching and screaming "Islamophobia" when the mood takes them but no so good at accepting that they have failed to keep their own community under control. They should also remember that there was a gay community in this country a long time before there was a muslim one.Why they can't just integrate with the rest of our society and behave in a civilised manner is quite beyond me.

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