Comments on: Royal Family targeted in "gay sex blackmail plot" http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:36:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: apYrs http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22013 apYrs Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:44:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22013 SMCI would agree with you except that the name is out there. What it means is thgat an item of news (albeit unimportant and a bit prurient) can be easily obtained if one hops on Eurostar, o rdoes some net surfing, but not in this country.If anonymity could be guaranteed generally then there wouldn't be this discussion, however it can't and hasn't been. We are now in a trivial rerun of the abdication scandal, and others where royals are protected by UK papers. SMCI would agree with you except that the name is out there. What it means is thgat an item of news (albeit unimportant and a bit prurient) can be easily obtained if one hops on Eurostar, o rdoes some net surfing, but not in this country.If anonymity could be guaranteed generally then there wouldn't be this discussion, however it can't and hasn't been. We are now in a trivial rerun of the abdication scandal, and others where royals are protected by UK papers.

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22014 Sister Mary Clarence Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:10:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22014 I think regardless of what we reflect on, his anonymity is being protected in the same way as it would be for anyone else.Equality and equal treatment should be an absolute, not something that is mitigated by circumstance and should not be subject to negotiation.The exact nature of the blackmail attempt is the subject of speculation at present so it may or may not have anything to do with homosexual acts. If the rumours are however true, I think the cocaine aspect of them may be the bigger issue. I think regardless of what we reflect on, his anonymity is being protected in the same way as it would be for anyone else.Equality and equal treatment should be an absolute, not something that is mitigated by circumstance and should not be subject to negotiation.The exact nature of the blackmail attempt is the subject of speculation at present so it may or may not have anything to do with homosexual acts. If the rumours are however true, I think the cocaine aspect of them may be the bigger issue.

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]]> By: apYrs http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22015 apYrs Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:31:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22015 SMC no I don't think he should be outed just because of his ancestry. However, he has benefitted from that, and that's the only reason why it's news.Should we perhaps reflect on our society where:a) a man is blackmailed because of his sexualityb) society is prurient enough to want to know.It would be nice if a royal did come out as it would help us in terms of role models (even better a footballer!!), but it shouldn't be newsworthy except as short-term gossip"?However, if he'd been vocallyt anti-gay, I see no problem with a hypocrite being outed. SMC no I don't think he should be outed just because of his ancestry. However, he has benefitted from that, and that's the only reason why it's news.Should we perhaps reflect on our society where:a) a man is blackmailed because of his sexualityb) society is prurient enough to want to know.It would be nice if a royal did come out as it would help us in terms of role models (even better a footballer!!), but it shouldn't be newsworthy except as short-term gossip"?However, if he'd been vocallyt anti-gay, I see no problem with a hypocrite being outed.

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22016 Sister Mary Clarence Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:42:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22016 It is common practice for the victim of blackmail to have their identity protected. So it would seem that you're all supporting the victim being treated less favourably because of his parentage.I take it you all believe that we have exclusive rights when it comes to eqality then? It is common practice for the victim of blackmail to have their identity protected. So it would seem that you're all supporting the victim being treated less favourably because of his parentage.I take it you all believe that we have exclusive rights when it comes to eqality then?

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22017 Robert, ex-pat Brit Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:42:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22017 So once the trial is over on December 20th, is the press still barred from revealing the identity of the "victim"? We all now know who it is, what a stupid, arcane law and so much for freedom of the press. So once the trial is over on December 20th, is the press still barred from revealing the identity of the "victim"? We all now know who it is, what a stupid, arcane law and so much for freedom of the press.

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]]> By: apYrs http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22018 apYrs Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:15:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22018 in the thirties the Establishment, with the conivance of the press, kept the lid on the relationship between Edward and Wallis Simpson, despite the fact it was common knowledge abroad.This is different in that it's a blackmail case, but again, the name is out there. Just not here. in the thirties the Establishment, with the conivance of the press, kept the lid on the relationship between Edward and Wallis Simpson, despite the fact it was common knowledge abroad.This is different in that it's a blackmail case, but again, the name is out there. Just not here.

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]]> By: Nike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22019 Nike Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:04:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22019 Why do we assume that what the blackmailers say, is true? It seems eveident that it was untrue, being the reason prompt action was taken! Why do we assume that what the blackmailers say, is true? It seems eveident that it was untrue, being the reason prompt action was taken!

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]]> By: Jason http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22020 Jason Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:52:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22020 Its so pathetic, society's infatuation with classes and scandal.Who and what is the queen? she's a symbol,an institution,the nations inheritance, uhmmm... thats it. Do we realy care about the royals (except if you're a royal yourself) Gosh, they are anyway so dog ugly i wouldnt care if they all disappear in thin air. Why are we so curious who this Royal is? I tell you why, just to laugh and be assured that they are just like us with a speech slightly slower than ours, thats why. now we can all continue with with our lives. Its so pathetic, society's infatuation with classes and scandal.Who and what is the queen? she's a symbol,an institution,the nations inheritance, uhmmm… thats it. Do we realy care about the royals (except if you're a royal yourself) Gosh, they are anyway so dog ugly i wouldnt care if they all disappear in thin air. Why are we so curious who this Royal is? I tell you why, just to laugh and be assured that they are just like us with a speech slightly slower than ours, thats why. now we can all continue with with our lives.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22021 Robert, ex-pat Brit Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:41:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22021 Roberto, I'm with you. Why a royal should have special protection is beyond me. What is it that Buckingham Palace is so ashamed of anyway? If it were your or I, our names would have been published. Maybe the royals are above the law which they shouldn't be in a democracy. At least Diana brought some modern style and glamour to the dowdy house of Windsor in her brief life so tragically shortened. Roberto, I'm with you. Why a royal should have special protection is beyond me. What is it that Buckingham Palace is so ashamed of anyway? If it were your or I, our names would have been published. Maybe the royals are above the law which they shouldn't be in a democracy. At least Diana brought some modern style and glamour to the dowdy house of Windsor in her brief life so tragically shortened.

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]]> By: Roberto http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22022 Roberto Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:28:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22022 This is all so silly, why not name the person because it will come out eventually.Rather like our own dear George Michael after his cottaging problem in the USA, this Royal could actually do well out of the event if he/she handles it the right way. Contact Max Clifford and go public is my advice.Oh yes, and by the way, even I was able to find out the person's name by doing a bit of on line digging so the secret is out anyway. This is all so silly, why not name the person because it will come out eventually.Rather like our own dear George Michael after his cottaging problem in the USA, this Royal could actually do well out of the event if he/she handles it the right way. Contact Max Clifford and go public is my advice.Oh yes, and by the way, even I was able to find out the person's name by doing a bit of on line digging so the secret is out anyway.

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]]> By: apYrs http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22023 apYrs Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:23:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22023 1 we don't need a Royal Family.2 we don't need to know who they're sleeping with.3 we don't need to have a gay outed just because he or she is a "royal" UNLESS they've preached homophobia 1 we don't need a Royal Family.2 we don't need to know who they're sleeping with.3 we don't need to have a gay outed just because he or she is a "royal" UNLESS they've preached homophobia

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]]> By: Peter Rivendell http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22024 Peter Rivendell Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:24:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22024 Yes, the drugs is the real story here. I don't think the UK, at any rate, would have much of a problem with a minor gay royal, unless the details were especially 'salacious'. A Premiership footballer would be an entirely different matter. Yes, the drugs is the real story here. I don't think the UK, at any rate, would have much of a problem with a minor gay royal, unless the details were especially 'salacious'. A Premiership footballer would be an entirely different matter.

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]]> By: Sitster Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22025 Sitster Mary Clarence Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:32:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22025 I think the cocaine might have been a bit of an issue though I think the cocaine might have been a bit of an issue though

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]]> By: anon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22026 anon Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:35:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22026 seems we havent moved on that far if you can still be blackmailed for being gay seems we havent moved on that far if you can still be blackmailed for being gay

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]]> By: Ivan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22027 Ivan Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:29:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22027 Far be it from me to suggest that a genuinely shocking headline would have been "Prince Edward Not in Gay Sex Blackmail Plot". Far be it from me to suggest that a genuinely shocking headline would have been "Prince Edward Not in Gay Sex Blackmail Plot".

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]]> By: Peter Rivendell http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22028 Peter Rivendell Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:39:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22028 Look at maybe one of the Queen's second cousins who has admitted cocaine use in the past...? Look at maybe one of the Queen's second cousins who has admitted cocaine use in the past…?

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]]> By: Sitster Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22029 Sitster Mary Clarence Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:18:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22029 I've still not been able to identify the clear favourite - any pointers anyone? I've still not been able to identify the clear favourite – any pointers anyone?

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]]> By: vincent http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22030 vincent Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:17:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22030 If we think it is any less difficult, for many men in particular, to be open and honest if they want to be regarding their sexual orientation, today than in times past or for those in the limelight then we are kidding ourselves. Even young gay guys across the country still face daily prejudice/scorn and bullying ...at school, in the work place, where they live etc etc. Fact is our SO is a private matter and we should be allowed to live with that as we choose.As for the Royals...minor or otherwise; it would be great if we did have one who had the integrity to be out, open and dating....The monarchy is a fact of life I can live with, just wish they would take a lead in the 21st C, not constantly give the impression they are hiding from it. If we think it is any less difficult, for many men in particular, to be open and honest if they want to be regarding their sexual orientation, today than in times past or for those in the limelight then we are kidding ourselves. Even young gay guys across the country still face daily prejudice/scorn and bullying …at school, in the work place, where they live etc etc. Fact is our SO is a private matter and we should be allowed to live with that as we choose.As for the Royals…minor or otherwise; it would be great if we did have one who had the integrity to be out, open and dating….The monarchy is a fact of life I can live with, just wish they would take a lead in the 21st C, not constantly give the impression they are hiding from it.

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]]> By: Dominick J. Di Noto http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22031 Dominick J. Di Noto Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:24:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22031 What a waste of time and space. There is nothing to this "wish it were something juicey to read!"The headline was a stupid grabber, not only that but the TV news media, especially here in the states, was so friggin misleading. What a way to get our attention off of REAL issues for this fake crap! What a waste of time and space. There is nothing to this "wish it were something juicey to read!"The headline was a stupid grabber, not only that but the TV news media, especially here in the states, was so friggin misleading. What a way to get our attention off of REAL issues for this fake crap!

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]]> By: Peter Rivendell http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22032 Peter Rivendell Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5884.html#comment-22032 I don't think Pink news would appreciate that much...? I don't think Pink news would appreciate that much…?

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