Comments on: Ofcom slams Clarkson's gay car comment

Comments on: Ofcom slams Clarkson's gay car comment http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:17:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Fred Fish http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14019 Fred Fish Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:23:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14019 Why are people so insensitive when it comes to names?Many gay people I know use the term, "It`s a bit Gay" to describe something which is a bit `naff`.It`s a statement more to do with taste than deep hating prejudice.As regards the BBC. Having worked for them I can say that many male staff are `gay`, and `gay` people are trumpeted above heterosexuals, so I would hardly call them anti-Gay. Bigoted perhaps, but not `anti-Gay`.Personally, for anti-Gay prejudice I would seriously worry about New Labour and their embrace of Islam.This faith is hardly a supporter of Gay rights, and in the recent Channel 4 documentary about Islamic extremists in Mosques, there were clear examples of not just anti-Gay views, but the implied will of `Allah` to murder homosexuals for being `Gay`.But apparently this `banter` by the Imman`s was `said out of context`(whatever that means - because they said it) and no prosecutions are being considered or sought.In fact, the police wanted Channel 4 persecuted by the regulator instead.So I guess for the government and the judiciary, it`s okay to be anti `gay`.It`s not the breadth of this issue, it`s the depth.If the Government seriously believed in `Gay` rights, they would have put pressure on the CPS to prosecute. But they chose to stay silent.Why? Because there are more Muslim voters to be had than `Gay` ones. Why are people so insensitive when it comes to names?Many gay people I know use the term, "It`s a bit Gay" to describe something which is a bit `naff`.It`s a statement more to do with taste than deep hating prejudice.As regards the BBC. Having worked for them I can say that many male staff are `gay`, and `gay` people are trumpeted above heterosexuals, so I would hardly call them anti-Gay. Bigoted perhaps, but not `anti-Gay`.Personally, for anti-Gay prejudice I would seriously worry about New Labour and their embrace of Islam.This faith is hardly a supporter of Gay rights, and in the recent Channel 4 documentary about Islamic extremists in Mosques, there were clear examples of not just anti-Gay views, but the implied will of `Allah` to murder homosexuals for being `Gay`.But apparently this `banter` by the Imman`s was `said out of context`(whatever that means – because they said it) and no prosecutions are being considered or sought.In fact, the police wanted Channel 4 persecuted by the regulator instead.So I guess for the government and the judiciary, it`s okay to be anti `gay`.It`s not the breadth of this issue, it`s the depth.If the Government seriously believed in `Gay` rights, they would have put pressure on the CPS to prosecute. But they chose to stay silent.Why? Because there are more Muslim voters to be had than `Gay` ones.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14020 Mike Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:04:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14020 its just a word, means nothing in some languages and something in others. Theres nothing homophobic in what was said. Those complaining clearly have nothing better to do. If we all behave like politicians then before you know it this country is going to be full of idiots. its just a word, means nothing in some languages and something in others. Theres nothing homophobic in what was said. Those complaining clearly have nothing better to do. If we all behave like politicians then before you know it this country is going to be full of idiots.

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]]> By: Amanda http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14021 Amanda Sun, 27 May 2007 16:17:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14021 Why did they only get 5 complaints - that is FIVE complaints about this out of oh only a few million viewers compared to the hundreds for the caravan episode.It smacks to me as if someone is looking for some free publicity.Clarkson says many contraversial things about many things - hadn't they noticed? I'd be more worried if I was left out Why did they only get 5 complaints – that is FIVE complaints about this out of oh only a few million viewers compared to the hundreds for the caravan episode.It smacks to me as if someone is looking for some free publicity.Clarkson says many contraversial things about many things – hadn't they noticed? I'd be more worried if I was left out

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]]> By: Jack Lemon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14022 Jack Lemon Wed, 23 May 2007 19:03:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14022 Well the bullying in the schools is a result of the materialistic decadent society with no family core we live in.......... if you feel so strongly about the political correctness and use of language why dont you focus ur rage at your local school and sort the bullies out yourself. See thats the problem with people these days "all mouth and no trousers" a truly gutless decade. This bullying culture does not stem from one presenter's "loose langauge" maybe it originates for the mannerless, selfish, Loveless , politically correct society we live in.The liberals like to stick 500 children from different cultures, religions and sexuality in the same school and expect the whole model to work........I mean how stupid is that!!!!The USSR didnt work so why should any simular model work here in the UKpeople that dont read there history are bound to repeat the same mistakes againFrom a Spanish, Roman Catholic upbringing it scares me to see how poisoness this culture has become:-( Well the bullying in the schools is a result of the materialistic decadent society with no family core we live in………. if you feel so strongly about the political correctness and use of language why dont you focus ur rage at your local school and sort the bullies out yourself. See thats the problem with people these days "all mouth and no trousers" a truly gutless decade. This bullying culture does not stem from one presenter's "loose langauge" maybe it originates for the mannerless, selfish, Loveless , politically correct society we live in.The liberals like to stick 500 children from different cultures, religions and sexuality in the same school and expect the whole model to work……..I mean how stupid is that!!!!The USSR didnt work so why should any simular model work here in the UKpeople that dont read there history are bound to repeat the same mistakes againFrom a Spanish, Roman Catholic upbringing it scares me to see how poisoness this culture has become:-(

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]]> By: anon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14023 anon Tue, 22 May 2007 17:56:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14023 To Tom-in-London (BBC staff member)At the start Graham arrived in a car. When he got out the driver called him a nonce. It was included in the subtitles as well. To Tom-in-London (BBC staff member)At the start Graham arrived in a car. When he got out the driver called him a nonce. It was included in the subtitles as well.

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]]> By: elizabeth veldon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14024 elizabeth veldon Tue, 22 May 2007 17:11:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14024 i love it when a 'debate' stays strictly within the relms of techincal language.I beleve 'fuckin queer cunts' is a term used when discussing Hengelian Dialectics? i love it when a 'debate' stays strictly within the relms of techincal language.I beleve 'fuckin queer cunts' is a term used when discussing Hengelian Dialectics?

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]]> By: Steve http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14025 Steve Tue, 22 May 2007 16:34:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14025 Jack, you are a fat, filty queer.....now let me see you smile, "its only a joke" Jack, you are a fat, filty queer…..now let me see you smile, "its only a joke"

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]]> By: Stewart http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14026 Stewart Tue, 22 May 2007 16:31:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14026 Luke/JackClearly you have never been in a playground getting the crap beaten out of you while being called "poof", "queer" or "faggot". Always its middle England, white, "educated" hetero's who tell us to "get a sense of humor". Words are dangerous, period. Understand that when celebrities and the media bandy about these derogatory terms for minorities, the wider population imitates them and thinks that is OK. How many kids watch Top Gear - thousands. They learn that their "hero" thinks cars that are crap are queer. And the gay kids watching get to feel shitty as a result. Let me tell you from personal experience it is not OK. It is not OK that you equate my sexuality and identity with stuff that is crap. That is not a sense of humor failure, it is basic lack of respect on behalf of Clarkson et al. Luke/JackClearly you have never been in a playground getting the crap beaten out of you while being called "poof", "queer" or "faggot". Always its middle England, white, "educated" hetero's who tell us to "get a sense of humor". Words are dangerous, period. Understand that when celebrities and the media bandy about these derogatory terms for minorities, the wider population imitates them and thinks that is OK. How many kids watch Top Gear – thousands. They learn that their "hero" thinks cars that are crap are queer. And the gay kids watching get to feel shitty as a result. Let me tell you from personal experience it is not OK. It is not OK that you equate my sexuality and identity with stuff that is crap. That is not a sense of humor failure, it is basic lack of respect on behalf of Clarkson et al.

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]]> By: Jack Lemon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14027 Jack Lemon Tue, 22 May 2007 15:38:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14027 Dear Pink Tony Grew on LBCI strongly object to the opinions broadcaster on LBC this morning 22/05/07 regarding a Top Gear PresenterAgain this is a further example of the hyper sensitive, politically correct generation we are living in. A group of liberals that wish to take away freedom of speech for the own personal gain. A group which epitimize the materialistic, loveless, superficial era we live in. I advise the Young journalist that spoke this morning to go on holiday and take a break, because to be frank he made quite a fool of himself. His bitterness with the world ofviously stems from rejection and sexual frustration.So smile and get a sense of humour............it was only a joke!!! Dear Pink Tony Grew on LBCI strongly object to the opinions broadcaster on LBC this morning 22/05/07 regarding a Top Gear PresenterAgain this is a further example of the hyper sensitive, politically correct generation we are living in. A group of liberals that wish to take away freedom of speech for the own personal gain. A group which epitimize the materialistic, loveless, superficial era we live in. I advise the Young journalist that spoke this morning to go on holiday and take a break, because to be frank he made quite a fool of himself. His bitterness with the world ofviously stems from rejection and sexual frustration.So smile and get a sense of humour…………it was only a joke!!!

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]]> By: Paul Nolan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14028 Paul Nolan Tue, 22 May 2007 11:12:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14028 So it's not at all wrong to equate us with all that is crap? I'd say that's pretty fecking offensive.(would go into a big rant here, but it's all been said) So it's not at all wrong to equate us with all that is crap? I'd say that's pretty fecking offensive.(would go into a big rant here, but it's all been said)

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]]> By: luke http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14029 luke Tue, 22 May 2007 10:27:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14029 You people are pathetic. You are the reason people are 'homophobic'. Let me get this straight, someone else calls an inanimate object(a car), 'a bit gay' and 'you' are deeply offended by that? I mean how old are you people? Children can take name calling, it's part of growing up, so why can't you? If you people get your way and sexuality is fully politicised then we are all doomed because it won't stop there. Sooner or later the ginger haired people will form a group where they can whine about how such terrible victims they are, then they can become 'activists' and put 'pressure' on people.You know when a young child does that thing where they look like there crying but there not. That's what you people are. None of you are offended, you just see a chance to raise your hand and declare "I'M A VICTIM TOO - FEEL SORRY FOR ME!" You people are pathetic. You are the reason people are 'homophobic'. Let me get this straight, someone else calls an inanimate object(a car), 'a bit gay' and 'you' are deeply offended by that? I mean how old are you people? Children can take name calling, it's part of growing up, so why can't you? If you people get your way and sexuality is fully politicised then we are all doomed because it won't stop there. Sooner or later the ginger haired people will form a group where they can whine about how such terrible victims they are, then they can become 'activists' and put 'pressure' on people.You know when a young child does that thing where they look like there crying but there not. That's what you people are. None of you are offended, you just see a chance to raise your hand and declare "I'M A VICTIM TOO – FEEL SORRY FOR ME!"

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]]> By: kevin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14030 kevin Tue, 22 May 2007 10:02:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14030 its all part of the same thing bognutusing words like gay or queer in a pejorative sense causes homophobia its all part of the same thing bognutusing words like gay or queer in a pejorative sense causes homophobia

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]]> By: Bognut http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14031 Bognut Tue, 22 May 2007 09:56:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14031 Personally, I hate the word "queer", but I don't wet myself, scream and go running off to Ofcom everytime I hear it used in a negative way. Let's stop prattling on about silly little light hearted things and focus on the big issues. Violent crime against us in this and other countries would be a very good start. Personally, I hate the word "queer", but I don't wet myself, scream and go running off to Ofcom everytime I hear it used in a negative way. Let's stop prattling on about silly little light hearted things and focus on the big issues. Violent crime against us in this and other countries would be a very good start.

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]]> By: Tom-in-London http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14032 Tom-in-London Tue, 22 May 2007 02:39:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14032 anon... I watched the Baftas and have it available for viewing at anytime.... please tell me the name of the person that called Graham Norton a nonce.Tom(BBC staff member) anon… I watched the Baftas and have it available for viewing at anytime…. please tell me the name of the person that called Graham Norton a nonce.Tom(BBC staff member)

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]]> By: anon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14033 anon Mon, 21 May 2007 23:30:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14033 The BBC is institutionally homophobic. Yes, hundreds of its staff are gay or lesbian, but that's exactly how the BBC manages to fool everyone. Too many gay BBC staff are selfish and self-centered, not giving a damn about the whole community so long as they collect their pay cheques at the end of the month. Remember Graham Norton complaining about straight producers telling him to camp it up? Pay him enough and you can call him a nonce, which was exactly what happened at the start last nights Bafta ceremony. The BBC is institutionally homophobic. Yes, hundreds of its staff are gay or lesbian, but that's exactly how the BBC manages to fool everyone. Too many gay BBC staff are selfish and self-centered, not giving a damn about the whole community so long as they collect their pay cheques at the end of the month. Remember Graham Norton complaining about straight producers telling him to camp it up? Pay him enough and you can call him a nonce, which was exactly what happened at the start last nights Bafta ceremony.

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]]> By: Ivan Bailey http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14034 Ivan Bailey Mon, 21 May 2007 22:09:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14034 Not so very long a go it was common usage to use the word "Irish" to mean stupid and the word "Jewish" to mean stingy.This offensive and discriminatory usage was expunged in the 1980s by media organisations, with the BBC at the forefront, refusing to use the terms "Irish" and "Jewish" in these negative and offensive ways.Why the double standard with the term "gay"?And what if the word "Muslim" started to be used for any bad tempered person who tended to blow up? Would that be OK?Or would Mr Clarkson still be in a job if he had described an unreliable car as being a bit "black"?I doubt if anyone would be asking us see the funny side of that. Not so very long a go it was common usage to use the word "Irish" to mean stupid and the word "Jewish" to mean stingy.This offensive and discriminatory usage was expunged in the 1980s by media organisations, with the BBC at the forefront, refusing to use the terms "Irish" and "Jewish" in these negative and offensive ways.Why the double standard with the term "gay"?And what if the word "Muslim" started to be used for any bad tempered person who tended to blow up? Would that be OK?Or would Mr Clarkson still be in a job if he had described an unreliable car as being a bit "black"?I doubt if anyone would be asking us see the funny side of that.

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]]> By: Geoff http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14035 Geoff Mon, 21 May 2007 17:57:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14035 I wouldn't have a problem with being homosexual ... it's just the part where ones sense of humour is surgically removed that prevents me from turning to the Pink Side. I wouldn't have a problem with being homosexual … it's just the part where ones sense of humour is surgically removed that prevents me from turning to the Pink Side.

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]]> By: Stewart http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14036 Stewart Mon, 21 May 2007 16:29:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14036 The issue with his comment is balance. There is simply very little that is positive in terms of coverage of gay and lesbian from the BBC. For the teenager or person struggling with their sexuality, Clarkson's comments equating crap with gay is one part of a landslide of negativity that the bbc puts forward. His contempt for any kind of apology shows how deeply entrenched this thinking is. If he had described a car as black or muslim he would have had his career canned. The bbc fails to step up to the plate in terms of gay and lesbian coverage despite the many thousands of us paying license fees. Tell me where I can see a positive reflection of the life I lead as opposed to the sea of camp TV presenters, verbal abuse and overwhelmingly negative news articles on gays and lesbians? The issue with his comment is balance. There is simply very little that is positive in terms of coverage of gay and lesbian from the BBC. For the teenager or person struggling with their sexuality, Clarkson's comments equating crap with gay is one part of a landslide of negativity that the bbc puts forward. His contempt for any kind of apology shows how deeply entrenched this thinking is. If he had described a car as black or muslim he would have had his career canned. The bbc fails to step up to the plate in terms of gay and lesbian coverage despite the many thousands of us paying license fees. Tell me where I can see a positive reflection of the life I lead as opposed to the sea of camp TV presenters, verbal abuse and overwhelmingly negative news articles on gays and lesbians?

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]]> By: Steve Bewers http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14037 Steve Bewers Mon, 21 May 2007 15:21:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14037 Hahahaha Oh for heaven's sake grow up!! Everyone knows what the audience member meant, and what Jeremy meant. Light hearted and silly, but not homophobic. He could just as easily said the car was a bit pink. If he'd said it was a bit queer, in my mind that would have sounded odd, because it was applied to a car! Just makes it sound a bit queer, err odd. How can a car be homosexual? Why is that offensive anyway? It's just daft! Am I allowed to use that word? Is it bullying the daft members of society?I'm not gay err homosexual, but I grew out of homophobia years ago. Exit correspondant in pink Mazda MX5, a real hairdresser's car! Is that offensive? Sorry. Hahahaha Oh for heaven's sake grow up!! Everyone knows what the audience member meant, and what Jeremy meant. Light hearted and silly, but not homophobic. He could just as easily said the car was a bit pink. If he'd said it was a bit queer, in my mind that would have sounded odd, because it was applied to a car! Just makes it sound a bit queer, err odd. How can a car be homosexual? Why is that offensive anyway? It's just daft! Am I allowed to use that word? Is it bullying the daft members of society?I'm not gay err homosexual, but I grew out of homophobia years ago. Exit correspondant in pink Mazda MX5, a real hairdresser's car! Is that offensive? Sorry.

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]]> By: bry http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html/comment-page-1/#comment-14038 bry Wed, 03 Jan 2007 14:00:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4442.html#comment-14038 Clarkson is known for his laddish persona and plays it up - and apparently laddishness means implying that if you drive certain cars, you're gay/straight/black/ a pimp/ Jewish, etc. (I'm sure the car manufacturers will tap him on the shoulder soon enough if his comments are detrimental to their car sales.) But, as every red-blooded, real male knows, gays will only drive cars if they're pink, have got fluffy pink dice/ seat covers... So we should stick with the Golf Convertible equivalent of modern car manufacturing, and woe betide us if we even glance at a 'sensible' car.Grow up, Mr Clarkson. I've seen more red-blooded, butch males in XXL than on Top Gear Clarkson is known for his laddish persona and plays it up – and apparently laddishness means implying that if you drive certain cars, you're gay/straight/black/ a pimp/ Jewish, etc. (I'm sure the car manufacturers will tap him on the shoulder soon enough if his comments are detrimental to their car sales.) But, as every red-blooded, real male knows, gays will only drive cars if they're pink, have got fluffy pink dice/ seat covers… So we should stick with the Golf Convertible equivalent of modern car manufacturing, and woe betide us if we even glance at a 'sensible' car.Grow up, Mr Clarkson. I've seen more red-blooded, butch males in XXL than on Top Gear

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