Comments on: Net police investigate gay hate website http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:06:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Lawrence Barrie http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11656 Lawrence Barrie Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:37:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11656 "Thank you for letting us know about this. Because of the size of our user base, we are not able to police or pre-approve content before it goes up. Instead, we can only remove content if we receive information that the content is illegal. Now that you have provided this information, we have suspended public access to the weblog."It pays to take action. As Frank Zappa said: "Shut up and play yer guitar..." "Thank you for letting us know about this. Because of the size of our user base, we are not able to police or pre-approve content before it goes up. Instead, we can only remove content if we receive information that the content is illegal. Now that you have provided this information, we have suspended public access to the weblog."It pays to take action. As Frank Zappa said: "Shut up and play yer guitar…"

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]]> By: Ian Laughlin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11657 Ian Laughlin Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:49:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11657 If this deranged site is offline (and we must remain vigilant to ensure that it remains so permanently) then LGBT organisations and supporters could use the momentum over it to tackle other hate sites as well. I would suggest the psuedo-left wing www.prisonplanet.com and www.indymedia.org.uk be challenged. Both are particularly dangerous as they masquerade as liberal, intelligent sites but host numerous articles attacking gay people and peddling a homophobic version of the classic Nazi anti-semitic notion of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. In the meantime, let's enjoy this small victory over the homo-haters and their fake-liberal apologists. It's nice to imagine the latter hopping mad that their homophobia (deflected into their abortive 'free speech' whining) has been exposed. If this deranged site is offline (and we must remain vigilant to ensure that it remains so permanently) then LGBT organisations and supporters could use the momentum over it to tackle other hate sites as well. I would suggest the psuedo-left wing http://www.prisonplanet.com and http://www.indymedia.org.uk be challenged. Both are particularly dangerous as they masquerade as liberal, intelligent sites but host numerous articles attacking gay people and peddling a homophobic version of the classic Nazi anti-semitic notion of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. In the meantime, let's enjoy this small victory over the homo-haters and their fake-liberal apologists. It's nice to imagine the latter hopping mad that their homophobia (deflected into their abortive 'free speech' whining) has been exposed.

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]]> By: Pete http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11658 Pete Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:35:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11658 Free speech does not pertain to anything but government involvement.Why are there so many idiots in our Country who can't be bothered to have even a feeble grasp on our rights?And why do they always seem to want to see it enforced to protect vile hate filled tripe in private (not public or government operated) areas?Free speech is not at issue here.Blogger is a private company, not government sponsored.Free speech is for protection from the government, and only the government, on your ability to say something publicly.Free speech does not apply to the private sector.Duh. Free speech does not pertain to anything but government involvement.Why are there so many idiots in our Country who can't be bothered to have even a feeble grasp on our rights?And why do they always seem to want to see it enforced to protect vile hate filled tripe in private (not public or government operated) areas?Free speech is not at issue here.Blogger is a private company, not government sponsored.Free speech is for protection from the government, and only the government, on your ability to say something publicly.Free speech does not apply to the private sector.Duh.

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]]> By: Marc http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11659 Marc Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:01:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11659 I have to wonder if the site concerned had been about the rape and murder of women if Ms Whetstone would have defended the whole 'freedom of speech' point of view? Or how about paedophila or pictures of the victims of the holocaust? We can argue that the exclusion of sites like these affect 'freedom of speech' I'm guessing these sites would never make it onto google. Serious double standards? Just a small bit, the Gay community of which I am a proud member is getting stronger as we go but idiots like Ms Whetstone need really to think before they open their mouths. I have to wonder if the site concerned had been about the rape and murder of women if Ms Whetstone would have defended the whole 'freedom of speech' point of view? Or how about paedophila or pictures of the victims of the holocaust? We can argue that the exclusion of sites like these affect 'freedom of speech' I'm guessing these sites would never make it onto google. Serious double standards? Just a small bit, the Gay community of which I am a proud member is getting stronger as we go but idiots like Ms Whetstone need really to think before they open their mouths.

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]]> By: Lawrence Barrie http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11660 Lawrence Barrie Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:44:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11660 Whether on not this is a parody, it's in clear violation of six apart's terms of use.make your complaint count: Whether on not this is a parody, it's in clear violation of six apart's terms of use.make your complaint count:

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]]> By: dave http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11661 dave Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:36:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11661 Google can't use the "free speech" argument with the anti-gay website because they've stopped listing a site which supports equality and is against homophobia. It looks like a case of anti-gay discrimination unless Google can explain the discrepancy. Google can't use the "free speech" argument with the anti-gay website because they've stopped listing a site which supports equality and is against homophobia. It looks like a case of anti-gay discrimination unless Google can explain the discrepancy.

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]]> By: Antichrist http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11662 Antichrist Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:07:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11662 Maybe Andrew is right and it's satire. The blogger's profile picture of an innocent Arian boy, blonde hair and blue eyes, is rather funny for someone promoting Jamaican rasta ideology. Maybe Andrew is right and it's satire. The blogger's profile picture of an innocent Arian boy, blonde hair and blue eyes, is rather funny for someone promoting Jamaican rasta ideology.

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]]> By: Antichrist http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11663 Antichrist Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:58:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11663 OK. Now let's ban the bible and other religious texts that incite to murder, like in Leviticus 20:13. "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." OK. Now let's ban the bible and other religious texts that incite to murder, like in Leviticus 20:13. "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

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]]> By: David http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11664 David Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:29:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11664 This blog is hateful.Think of it: If similar content is used towards any other groups of people,what the reactions will be? This blog is hateful.Think of it: If similar content is used towards any other groups of people,what the reactions will be?

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]]> By: Andy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11665 Andy Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:31:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11665 StevenThe Germans were probably having the same deluded thoughts as you in the 1930's - after all Hitler had to be bonkers didn't he?This is not a free speech issue, it is a hate speech issue.If I was to refer to this blogger as a filthy nigger I would be rightly condemned, free speech or no.This kind of vile behaviour needs to be shown the cruel light of day and banished forever. StevenThe Germans were probably having the same deluded thoughts as you in the 1930's – after all Hitler had to be bonkers didn't he?This is not a free speech issue, it is a hate speech issue.If I was to refer to this blogger as a filthy nigger I would be rightly condemned, free speech or no.This kind of vile behaviour needs to be shown the cruel light of day and banished forever.

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]]> By: christian http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11666 christian Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:58:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11666 not seen the warning either when accessing the site ...though I agree that it is hard to believe that this is real, I am afraid that this disbelief may have a cultural bias. not seen the warning either when accessing the site …though I agree that it is hard to believe that this is real, I am afraid that this disbelief may have a cultural bias.

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]]> By: Steven http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11667 Steven Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:41:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11667 Don't get me wrong, i think its disgusting, but free speech is free speech. Surely you don't expect sane people to take it seriously though. Don't get me wrong, i think its disgusting, but free speech is free speech. Surely you don't expect sane people to take it seriously though.

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]]> By: Brian http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11668 Brian Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:50:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11668 That blog is just ridiculous. It's hard to imagine this absurd level of homophobia. Wondering if this guy is a self-hating gay man. That blog is just ridiculous. It's hard to imagine this absurd level of homophobia. Wondering if this guy is a self-hating gay man.

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]]> By: Paul http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11669 Paul Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:27:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11669 Where's the warning? I've just been to it and there is NO warning that I can see.Seems Google is telling porkys!! Let's hope that the Internet Watch Foundation will do something about it!!! Where's the warning? I've just been to it and there is NO warning that I can see.Seems Google is telling porkys!! Let's hope that the Internet Watch Foundation will do something about it!!!

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]]> By: GS http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11670 GS Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:30:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11670 This is an insult to humanity whether you are gay or staight.Remember the rantings of hitler and they weren;t taken serious at first. This blog should raise a red flag to everyoe. This is an insult to humanity whether you are gay or staight.Remember the rantings of hitler and they weren;t taken serious at first. This blog should raise a red flag to everyoe.

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]]> By: DF http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11671 DF Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:57:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11671 Let's use the "flag" button on the upper-right position of the blog page to express our feelings. Let's use the "flag" button on the upper-right position of the blog page to express our feelings.

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]]> By: Andrew http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11672 Andrew Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:08:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11672 I'm not sure this website can be real! It seems more like an incredibly well orchestrated parody. Take this line: "If your teenager tells you he wants to go to a foam party, tell him to bathe in the blood of Jesus instead, and throw boiling water on him!"Erm ... really? I'm not sure this website can be real! It seems more like an incredibly well orchestrated parody. Take this line: "If your teenager tells you he wants to go to a foam party, tell him to bathe in the blood of Jesus instead, and throw boiling water on him!"Erm … really?

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]]> By: dave http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11673 dave Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:11:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11673 Tony, thanks for letting us know. Tony, thanks for letting us know.

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]]> By: Keith R. Groom http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html/comment-page-1/#comment-11674 Keith R. Groom Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:59:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-3798.html#comment-11674 I think it is appalling that GOOGLE allow this to flourish without, it seems, doing much about it....if it has been active since March'06 why has it taken so long to rumble the perpetrators... their phobic material was obviously there right from the start. KRG I think it is appalling that GOOGLE allow this to flourish without, it seems, doing much about it….if it has been active since March'06 why has it taken so long to rumble the perpetrators… their phobic material was obviously there right from the start. KRG

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