Comments on: Gay group postpones WorldPride amid war talk http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:31:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: aaron silver http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4839 aaron silver Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4839 GAY “PRIDE MARCHES” Even though I am a gay man I do have reservations about gay pride marches. I live in the U.S. so I am looking at this issue from within an American cultural context. I do not believe that gay “pride marches” are helpful in furthering the causes for equal rights for gays under the laws of the land which was meant initially to celebrate the diversity of all people and to demonstrate to the world that not all gay people look and act the same has in my mind backfired. Instead of furthering gay causes in which these “gay pride” marches were once intended to accomplish, have now just become parades, lacking integrity and a common or substantial goal. Therefore we first need to call them what they truly are, parades, not marches. These parades tend to attract many of the subcultures within the gay community which are not at all representative of the vast majority of gay people. These subcultures are often made up of individuals that are exhibitionists and these parades are just another opportunity for them express those abhorrent needs. They in no way demonstrate to the society at large, which are the heterosexuals and incidentally our largest voting constituency, that we are anything but the stereotypes that they believe us to be, and we ourselves have created and need to take responsibility for that. During the tumultuous times of the late fifties and sixties when Dr. Martin Luther King would peacefully gather individuals together to march down the streets of many of our cities or in front of the nation’s capital with one noble goal in mind. All of the participants of these well organized marches seemed to never loose sight of the vision of Dr King and his lofty and rightful goal of attaining equal rights and complete assimilation into the dominant white society. His desire was to demonstrate their cause peacefully and with an air of class and dignity that seemed to surround the participants of these marches. Do any of you that are old enough, or have at least watched footage of these marches, ever recall anyone behaving in a sexually exploitive manner? Do any of you remember anyone marching without being fully clothed? Do any of you remember anyone pride fully exposing their countless nipple piercings and many with the backs of their pants cut out for the sole purpose of exposing their bare rear ends? Does anyone really and truthfully believe that these behaviors are going to further the rights for gays? On the contrary, all these “parades” do is to deepen the age-old stereotypes of gays and their sexually exploitive lifestyles. Being a gay man myself, I am embarrassed at these parades, and let’s call them what they are. They are parades, not marches, which are organized for the purpose of exploiting the exhibitionists and their desire to be a part of just another party. It GAY “PRIDE MARCHES” Even though I am a gay man I do have reservations about gay pride marches. I live in the U.S. so I am looking at this issue from within an American cultural context. I do not believe that gay “pride marches” are helpful in furthering the causes for equal rights for gays under the laws of the land which was meant initially to celebrate the diversity of all people and to demonstrate to the world that not all gay people look and act the same has in my mind backfired. Instead of furthering gay causes in which these “gay pride” marches were once intended to accomplish, have now just become parades, lacking integrity and a common or substantial goal. Therefore we first need to call them what they truly are, parades, not marches. These parades tend to attract many of the subcultures within the gay community which are not at all representative of the vast majority of gay people. These subcultures are often made up of individuals that are exhibitionists and these parades are just another opportunity for them express those abhorrent needs. They in no way demonstrate to the society at large, which are the heterosexuals and incidentally our largest voting constituency, that we are anything but the stereotypes that they believe us to be, and we ourselves have created and need to take responsibility for that. During the tumultuous times of the late fifties and sixties when Dr. Martin Luther King would peacefully gather individuals together to march down the streets of many of our cities or in front of the nation’s capital with one noble goal in mind. All of the participants of these well organized marches seemed to never loose sight of the vision of Dr King and his lofty and rightful goal of attaining equal rights and complete assimilation into the dominant white society. His desire was to demonstrate their cause peacefully and with an air of class and dignity that seemed to surround the participants of these marches. Do any of you that are old enough, or have at least watched footage of these marches, ever recall anyone behaving in a sexually exploitive manner? Do any of you remember anyone marching without being fully clothed? Do any of you remember anyone pride fully exposing their countless nipple piercings and many with the backs of their pants cut out for the sole purpose of exposing their bare rear ends? Does anyone really and truthfully believe that these behaviors are going to further the rights for gays? On the contrary, all these “parades” do is to deepen the age-old stereotypes of gays and their sexually exploitive lifestyles. Being a gay man myself, I am embarrassed at these parades, and let’s call them what they are. They are parades, not marches, which are organized for the purpose of exploiting the exhibitionists and their desire to be a part of just another party. It

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]]> By: Aldubi http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4840 Aldubi Sat, 02 Dec 2006 05:03:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4840 There was a happening instead of a parade which is a shame. But Israel is making progress, slowly and firmly twords more gay rights and law-making.And about the commentors who choose to write political things - I do not consider England or any other European, or Arab State as a any more worthy moral example. so cut the hypocrity. (btw, who occupied the land of Israel before it was liberated by the zionists...?) There was a happening instead of a parade which is a shame. But Israel is making progress, slowly and firmly twords more gay rights and law-making.And about the commentors who choose to write political things – I do not consider England or any other European, or Arab State as a any more worthy moral example. so cut the hypocrity. (btw, who occupied the land of Israel before it was liberated by the zionists…?)

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]]> By: laddie http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4841 laddie Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:05:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4841 What is this nonsense about Johathan and David not having sex? In their day, homosexual love was common place even though heterosexual unions co-existed with the same participants. another example might be Alexander the Great and his beloved Hephaestaion. And gift of Octavian to his uncle Ceasar of Rome, and soon afterwards, Herod's offer of his young brother-in-law to Octavian? At that time and before that time, homosexual love was as much a part of accepted society as the one man, one woman theme of today is. And by the way, that system isn't all that old and unique nor practiced universally even today. What is this nonsense about Johathan and David not having sex? In their day, homosexual love was common place even though heterosexual unions co-existed with the same participants. another example might be Alexander the Great and his beloved Hephaestaion. And gift of Octavian to his uncle Ceasar of Rome, and soon afterwards, Herod's offer of his young brother-in-law to Octavian? At that time and before that time, homosexual love was as much a part of accepted society as the one man, one woman theme of today is. And by the way, that system isn't all that old and unique nor practiced universally even today.

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]]> By: Brian http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4842 Brian Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:38:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4842 Your story shows a large Israeli flag - proving that this event is being used as a promotion tool for the racist state and has nothing to do with equality - how can you have equality by partying on stolen land? Lesbian and gay racists are just as offensive as any other racist. Your story shows a large Israeli flag – proving that this event is being used as a promotion tool for the racist state and has nothing to do with equality – how can you have equality by partying on stolen land? Lesbian and gay racists are just as offensive as any other racist.

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]]> By: Simon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4843 Simon Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:19:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4843 These haredim have ruined Israel's image as a modern tolerant country. Even I can't support Israel anymore. These haredim have ruined Israel's image as a modern tolerant country. Even I can't support Israel anymore.

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]]> By: Guy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4844 Guy Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:14:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4844 The minister of tourism should rather be ashamed for Israel's aggressions in Lebanon and Gaza. Boycott Israel. Gay or not gay. The minister of tourism should rather be ashamed for Israel's aggressions in Lebanon and Gaza. Boycott Israel. Gay or not gay.

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]]> By: Graham Sly http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4845 Graham Sly Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:50:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4845 God does not hate the homosexual, He hates the sin as of any other sin that is committed by any man or women. But God's love is so great towards all of us sinners that He provided the way of reconciliation back to Him through His only begotten son Jesus Christ. Anyone wether it be gay people or so called religious people there should be no voilence on either side. The true Christian walks as Christ did. I, as a reformed gay man now saved through the grace of Jesus Christ, can not tell any man what to do or how to do it in life, the only thing that matters is that I tell the sinner that he needs Christ to save his or her soul. Once that person has accepted Jesus ( truly ) from his heart then he will listen to God's ways. We are not told to protest against the sins of the world or march against them, but rather to preach the gospel of repentance and forgiveness of sins. If we do this faithfully the Holy Spirit will do his convicting work towards the sinner. Christians, stop protesting and do more praying and preaching then we will see results in the kingdom of God. Anyone who is violent be it what religion needs to practice what he preaches. Love your enemy, do good to those who hate you and turn the other cheek. We are not to solve the worlds problems but instead tell them the way out of their problems and that is through Christ the Lord. Peace to all. God does not hate the homosexual, He hates the sin as of any other sin that is committed by any man or women. But God's love is so great towards all of us sinners that He provided the way of reconciliation back to Him through His only begotten son Jesus Christ. Anyone wether it be gay people or so called religious people there should be no voilence on either side. The true Christian walks as Christ did. I, as a reformed gay man now saved through the grace of Jesus Christ, can not tell any man what to do or how to do it in life, the only thing that matters is that I tell the sinner that he needs Christ to save his or her soul. Once that person has accepted Jesus ( truly ) from his heart then he will listen to God's ways. We are not told to protest against the sins of the world or march against them, but rather to preach the gospel of repentance and forgiveness of sins. If we do this faithfully the Holy Spirit will do his convicting work towards the sinner. Christians, stop protesting and do more praying and preaching then we will see results in the kingdom of God. Anyone who is violent be it what religion needs to practice what he preaches. Love your enemy, do good to those who hate you and turn the other cheek. We are not to solve the worlds problems but instead tell them the way out of their problems and that is through Christ the Lord. Peace to all.

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]]> By: Graham Sly http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4846 Graham Sly Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:33:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4846 Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. 1Jo 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. 1Jo 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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]]> By: RENE http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4847 RENE Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:51:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4847 HOLY CITY, OR WHOLENESS? I AM, SO I LIVE,LOVE AND DIE... HOLY CITY, OR WHOLENESS? I AM, SO I LIVE,LOVE AND DIE…

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]]> By: Guy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4848 Guy Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:17:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4848 Like the great philosopher Bertrand Russell said, humanity needs knowledge and kindness. These commodities are very rare among religious fanatics, Jewish, Muslim or Christian. They keep hanging on to their so-called holy books written long ago by ignorant men. Like the great philosopher Bertrand Russell said, humanity needs knowledge and kindness. These commodities are very rare among religious fanatics, Jewish, Muslim or Christian. They keep hanging on to their so-called holy books written long ago by ignorant men.

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]]> By: Guy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4849 Guy Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:33:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4849 Yes. Lebanese bashing is much better public relations. Yes. Lebanese bashing is much better public relations.

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]]> By: Lea de Lange http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4850 Lea de Lange Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:11:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4850 What is meant by "bad language having been eliminated by the editor"? I have never seen such bad language anywhere in the Internet. All those slurs on religion, religious leaders, Judaism, Bible and common decency....Why are people called homophobic when they just do not like a march of sexual pride of any kind. It is shocking to them, nakedness is shocking to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is not Sedom. Jerusalem is not homo-city. Jerusalem is holy and what has desecration of Jerusalem to do with sex of any kind? This whole issue has nothing to do with sex. It is just plain old antisemitism, like putting a slaughtered pig in the Holy Temple. What is meant by "bad language having been eliminated by the editor"? I have never seen such bad language anywhere in the Internet. All those slurs on religion, religious leaders, Judaism, Bible and common decency….Why are people called homophobic when they just do not like a march of sexual pride of any kind. It is shocking to them, nakedness is shocking to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is not Sedom. Jerusalem is not homo-city. Jerusalem is holy and what has desecration of Jerusalem to do with sex of any kind? This whole issue has nothing to do with sex. It is just plain old antisemitism, like putting a slaughtered pig in the Holy Temple.

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]]> By: Andrew http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4851 Andrew Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:26:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4851 The religious wingnuts of Jerusalem have shown the world exactly what kind of degenerate filth they are. Did you see how the rabbis united with the pope and the ayatollahs in hate against homosexuals. What a bunch of fucking lunatics these religious zealots are. Birds of a feather -- human vultures. The religious wingnuts of Jerusalem have shown the world exactly what kind of degenerate filth they are. Did you see how the rabbis united with the pope and the ayatollahs in hate against homosexuals. What a bunch of fucking lunatics these religious zealots are. Birds of a feather — human vultures.

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]]> By: Nike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4852 Nike Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:47:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4852 Why do you see the repression against free sex in the Middle East as just a 'gay issue'? All forms of sex outside marraige suffer the same punishment. Remember the 16 year old Iraqi girl? And for the record, David and Jonathan DID NOT have sex. It is wishful thinking of Gay people. Why do you see the repression against free sex in the Middle East as just a 'gay issue'? All forms of sex outside marraige suffer the same punishment. Remember the 16 year old Iraqi girl? And for the record, David and Jonathan DID NOT have sex. It is wishful thinking of Gay people.

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]]> By: Diggler http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4853 Diggler Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:19:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4853 Well,at least they are not hanging poofs yet...yet!!! Well,at least they are not hanging poofs yet…yet!!!

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]]> By: Guy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4854 Guy Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:40:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4854 Dana for PM! Dana for PM!

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]]> By: Nikki http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4855 Nikki Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:24:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4855 No surprise there then, probably why Israeli forces invaded Lebanon! No surprise there then, probably why Israeli forces invaded Lebanon!

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]]> By: Guy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4856 Guy Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:30:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4856 The arrogance of Jewish, Muslim and Christian fanatics these days seems growing day by day.God is love, they say, but only for believers.Here is another voice:What is to be done, O Muslims? for I do not recognize myself. I am neither Christian, nor Jew, nor Magian, nor Muslim. I am not of the East, nor of the West, nor of the land, nor of the sea; I am not of Nature's mint, nor of the circling heaven. I am not of earth, nor of water, nor of air, nor of fire; I am not of the empyrean, nor of the dust, nor of existence, nor of entity. I am not of India, nor of China, nor of Bulgaria, nor of Saqsin I am not of the kingdom of 'Iraqian, nor of the country of Khorasan I am not of the this world, nor of the next, nor of Paradise, nor of Hell I am not of Adam, nor of Eve, nor of Eden and Rizwan. My place is the Placeless, my trace is the TracelessJalal ad-Din ar-Rumi (1207-73)Sufi mystic and poet The arrogance of Jewish, Muslim and Christian fanatics these days seems growing day by day.God is love, they say, but only for believers.Here is another voice:What is to be done, O Muslims? for I do not recognize myself. I am neither Christian, nor Jew, nor Magian, nor Muslim. I am not of the East, nor of the West, nor of the land, nor of the sea; I am not of Nature's mint, nor of the circling heaven. I am not of earth, nor of water, nor of air, nor of fire; I am not of the empyrean, nor of the dust, nor of existence, nor of entity. I am not of India, nor of China, nor of Bulgaria, nor of Saqsin I am not of the kingdom of 'Iraqian, nor of the country of Khorasan I am not of the this world, nor of the next, nor of Paradise, nor of Hell I am not of Adam, nor of Eve, nor of Eden and Rizwan. My place is the Placeless, my trace is the TracelessJalal ad-Din ar-Rumi (1207-73)Sufi mystic and poet

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]]> By: N http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4857 N Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:19:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4857 Good piece and I for one think it is worth reiterating how extremist views of all religions stil prevail in the 21st century just to remind us that despite all the legislation , religious indoctrination is still alive and well and an insidious threat to humanityN Good piece and I for one think it is worth reiterating how extremist views of all religions stil prevail in the 21st century just to remind us that despite all the legislation , religious indoctrination is still alive and well and an insidious threat to humanityN

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]]> By: Alexander Miller http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html/comment-page-1/#comment-4858 Alexander Miller Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:01:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-2031.html#comment-4858 By giving exposure to these crackpot rabbis, PinkNews is creating a story where there is no story. Religious nuts of all faiths are extremely anti-gay. Big deal! Is that really news? By giving exposure to these crackpot rabbis, PinkNews is creating a story where there is no story. Religious nuts of all faiths are extremely anti-gay. Big deal! Is that really news?

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