Comments on: Ruth Kelly's birthday marred by gay rights row

By: Sorry, Are You Into Politics? « Back Towards The Locus

Sorry, Are You Into Politics? « Back Towards The Locus — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:59:02 +0000

[...] be? How is Ruth Kelly 'one of their own'? She was an equalities minister that cannily dodged voting on issues pertaining to equality, and said that she was a feminist "in the sense that I [...]

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By: abby Brown

abby Brown — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:40:58 +0000

people who still think homosexuality is wrong and sinful are dinasours … it's just how some people are.

There's no God, by the way … did I mention that?

hehe … it makes me laugh to think people are still religious. I laugh at them as simpletons. We have science now … we can know there is no God.

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By: Good riddance then, Ruth Kelly - Chicken Yoghurt

Good riddance then, Ruth Kelly - Chicken Yoghurt — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:29:38 +0000

[...] the irrational prejudices you rode in one. She says she's stepping down, in the words of that old cliche, 'to [...]

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:02:00 +0000

Interestingly, Michael Cashman is Britain's only out MEP. Check out this listing of Britain's for details…

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By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:21:00 +0000

Struggling to find a words a bit at the moment after reading some of the blinkered opinions being spouted on here.Whilst I don't have a problem with people having membership of a church, as it can have some positive outcomes (much in the same way as membership of the scouts, the Air Training Corp, or even the Church Lads Brigade does), I do however view them as weak willed people who cannot accept responsbility for their own destiny.I do not need anyone to tell me its wrong to kill, wrong to steal and even wrong to have sex with another man's wife (or in my case …. husband). I didn't learn these things from a book, these were views that I developed as I grew through childhood to adulthood. I would not like any of these things done to me, and therefore I do not do them to others. I am not a Christian, but these things are nonetheless relevant to me and the people around me.I do however shave, eat shellfish and sleep with men (although not as many as I would like to be fair). Each time I do these things it does not negatively impact on others (in fact I like to think that the sleeping with men has a positive impact – I'm assured I am fantastic sex!!). In modern times I am unlikely to cut myself shaving a die from an ensuing infection for want of antibiotics, or die from food poisoning from a dodgy prawn. The world's population is too great, so if a few of us start settling down with a buff bloke instead of a nice young lady, its probably a good thing. These were concerns at the time they were written in the Bible, but they have long since ceased to be relevant. The work has moved on, its a pity Ruth and it seems quite a number of bigots on here have not.Christianity is (supposed to be) about forgivenss, kindness and tolerance, about thinking of others, giving a helping hand and of thinking of others.Surely gay people who want to adopt are guilty of all of these things, and those in the church who oppose it are not!!It is one thing to use religion as a crutch to help you along life's road, it is another to start beating other passers by with it as you go.

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By: dave

dave — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:00:00 +0000

I always laugh at the fact that the churchs think that we choose to be gay. I was born gay, test thought-out time after time have proved that. Mother nature made me with the help of my Mum and Dad. I also think that those out there that say I did choose to be gay. Then they choose to be straight , ying and yang and all that. Which means at one point, with that hain of thought we all must start out bisexual?? Also relgion is a choice of mind, thats why there is so many different churchs and different gods. So they can change there minds. Gay is Gay. But I tell you what nothing will stop me getting all revved up when Craigy baby walks out of that sea in Casino Royale, No teachings, no punishments, no bad comments and no electric wires attached to my private parts.

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By: Phillip Hertford

Phillip Hertford — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:04:00 +0000

I appreciate the fair coverage of Opus Dei — I have a good friend that is a numerary and have nothing but fantastic things to say about him. They are not judgemental, but live a life of purity in the midst of this world — quite admirable.Napier

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By: Christopher Robert

Christopher Robert — Thu, 18 May 2006 03:17:00 +0000

Ruth Kelly – Accomplished, capable, sincere and a person who prays and listens to her conscience. We need more like her! But who is it who says homosexuality is wrong? God most certainly does. So it comes down to: A) Belief in God–a gift given to us which we can refuse or accept–and then B) Whether you want to beleive in His laws and live by them. In my life, there was a time I could have easily "fallen in love" with a man and, had that been my fate, I would have found myself defending it all the way. But intellectual pride, whether right or wrong, runs very deep. To change that sort of stand is moving a mountain — I know. If you are blind, spiritually speaking, you cannot see. I trust Ruth Kelly, not to advance the homesexual agenda, but to support anti-discrimination. The holiest of people, after all, have compassion for the sick and the vulnerable. One day, we'll all know what "truth' means–and that Ruth was right!

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By: Pete

Pete — Thu, 11 May 2006 09:17:00 +0000

Proposals to outlaw Sexual Orientation Discrimination in the Provision of Goods Servicesconsultation closes 5th June

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By: Lee

Lee — Wed, 10 May 2006 23:54:00 +0000

Tiango, if every MP lived by your definition of neutral, no MP would EVER vote.

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By: Lee

Lee — Wed, 10 May 2006 23:52:00 +0000

Brian, for us atheists your Bible bashing comments mean absolutely nothing. Why not keep your religious clap trap to yourself, eh?Ruth Kelly definitely is not the person for the job of advocating gay rights. Only a gay person really is capable of advocating gay rights. Labour says "we have delivered on gay rights," but they have not. They tell us that civil partnerships are equality then contradict themselves by telling Christians that it is nothing like marriage. Having Ruth Kelly on our side is about as useful as having Nick Griffin advocate rights for ethnic minorities.We're all stuffed and I suggest we move to Canada before it's too late.

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By: van

van — Wed, 10 May 2006 23:45:00 +0000

ruth kelly…it's a bit like putting a nazi in charge of a jewish prison…I'm under no illusions regarding her decision making, prescott was an out and out thug…welcome back to the good ole days of bigotry kids…

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By: Max

Max — Wed, 10 May 2006 16:55:00 +0000

The thing is Brian, how does my lifestyle affect you and other people? Unlike GBH and shoplifting – IT DOESN'T!Live and let live sweetie pie!xxx

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By: Max

Max — Wed, 10 May 2006 16:52:00 +0000

I will give her the benefit of the doubt, but believe her religious tendencies make her unsuitable for this job. I am a lesbian who has been in a serious relationship for 3 and a half years and don't want something like this to affect the rights of myself and my partner.

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By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 10 May 2006 16:30:00 +0000

Ruth Kelly should have had the courage of her convictions and said categorically that homosexual practice is a sin. Indeed a mortal sin. It is not homosexuality itself which is sinful but the practice of it, especially the unashamed practice of it. Some people are born with bad tempers. This does not excuse them from committing GBH or beating their wives. Some people have a natural tendency towards theft. This does not give them the right to go shoplifting or commit a robbery. Likewise some people are predisposed towards homosexuality. This does not give them the right to practice it! And remember that God destroyed Sodom because of the prevalence of this practice. One fears for the future of Western civilisation because of the tolerance towards this sin. Incidentally what a horrible corruption of the English language is that imported American word “gay” when used in the context of homosexuality. My 50 year old dictionary defines “gay” thus: “joyous and lively; merry”.

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By: ChrisinStalybridge

ChrisinStalybridge — Wed, 10 May 2006 12:19:00 +0000

I think all of this is jumping the gun…let's condemn Ruth Kelly AFTER she has done something we don't like!Meanwhile because of her alleged membership of Opus Dei,it may well be that Mrs Kelly will be great deal more careful and more positive in what she does in supporting gay rights and equality rather than some of the dubious not to say duplicitous attitudes of those preceding her including in my experience those in the Government involved in processing the Civil Partnerships Act through Parliament.Those who watched and listened to the debate would have no doubt that the most powerful advocats delivering wonderful speeches in support came from the Opposition benches…namely Charles Hendry (MP for Wealden) and the incomparable Alan Duncan to whom we all owe a special debt of gratitude – and that is praise indeed from a life-long labour supporter!

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By: Phillip hart

Phillip hart — Tue, 09 May 2006 22:09:00 +0000

I can't think of anything more offensive to the gay community than appointing this dreadful woman to the post of minister for equality.I was brought up as a catholic and am well aware of their damaging bigoted views which have affected me through out my life.In interviews today she has constantly dodged questions that might have exposed her bigoted views.You cannot have a religious bigot that stands for equality.

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By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 09 May 2006 20:54:00 +0000

Ruth Kelly has “never” offered support for the gay community in any of her parliamentary dealings!Click here and key the word search for each page with the word “gay”. As you will see there is a lot about Safeguarding Children, Sex Offender’s Child Protection there and “nothing” about the work with the gay community which she would have been invoved with in her last job.One of the key elements to homophobia is the old fashioned idea that secretly all gay people are paedophiles. So strange that Ruth Kelly should show a keen interest in Sex Offender’s Child Protection, don’t you think?

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By: The M+G+R Foundation

The M+G+R Foundation — Tue, 09 May 2006 19:32:00 +0000

Greetings!What Mrs. Ruth Kelly et al need is a major reality check.They should start at and finish atBlessings!

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By: Pete

Pete — Tue, 09 May 2006 17:58:00 +0000

Tiago Figueiredo – I think you just shot yourself in the foot.The report on this page is incorrect and I asked the editor to amend it earlier today. I hope he will now do so.Ruth Kelly voted FOR an amendment to ban gay, but not straight, unmarried couples from adopting.

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