Comments on: Conservatives' grouping with homophobic Polish party 'will give them more power' http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:33:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62616 John Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:18:15 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62616 When it comes to european political groupings,the tories seek out quantity rather than quality! If this is the best grouping they feel content with, then heaven help us post next general election! Can those gays who voted tory at the last election, kindly inform us 1,why and 2, will you at the next election? Given that the tories don't seem to have a positive LGBT agenda apart from allowing a tory mp on gay pride and Cameron saying its ok to have gay tory MPs, i'm keen to hear why anyone from the gay community would want to activly vote tory.....and why?! When it comes to european political groupings,the tories seek out quantity rather than quality! If this is the best grouping they feel content with, then heaven help us post next general election! Can those gays who voted tory at the last election, kindly inform us 1,why and 2, will you at the next election? Given that the tories don't seem to have a positive LGBT agenda apart from allowing a tory mp on gay pride and Cameron saying its ok to have gay tory MPs, i'm keen to hear why anyone from the gay community would want to activly vote tory…..and why?!

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]]> By: Darrien http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62499 Darrien Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:29:03 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62499 Thanks for the catch Sister Mary Clarence Thanks for the catch Sister Mary Clarence

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]]> By: Mike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62423 Mike Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:15:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62423 More power eh? More Right wing power leads to the destruction of Human Rights and democracy(and you think its bad under Labour; watch this space!) More power eh? More Right wing power leads to the destruction of Human Rights and democracy(and you think its bad under Labour; watch this space!)

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]]> By: Ivan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62383 Ivan Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:32:11 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62383 @Adrian T Off the scale stupidity is, of course, vulpus_rex's speciality. @Adrian T

Off the scale stupidity is, of course, vulpus_rex's speciality.

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]]> By: Sister Mary Clarence http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62360 Sister Mary Clarence Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:47:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62360 "Among Republicans in the United States, the difference between the Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Huckabee wings is wide. In Britain, by contrast, many Christian conservatives have been ready to compromise on social issues. Montgomerie is willing to support gay unions, albeit without any great enthusiasm. “Politically,” Montgomerie says, “the gay rights issue is over. Completely over.” By recognizing that, Montgomerie says, Cameron has actually done the social conservatives in the party a favor. “He has bought permission to talk about a pro-marriage agenda,” he said." Slightly mis-quoted Darrien .... "Among Republicans in the United States, the difference between the Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Huckabee wings is wide. In Britain, by contrast, many Christian conservatives have been ready to compromise on social issues. Montgomerie is willing to support gay unions, albeit without any great enthusiasm. “Politically,” Montgomerie says, “the gay rights issue is over. Completely over.” By recognizing that, Montgomerie says, Cameron has actually done the social conservatives in the party a favor. “He has bought permission to talk about a pro-marriage agenda,” he said."

Slightly mis-quoted Darrien ….

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]]> By: Darrien http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62356 Darrien Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:15:09 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62356 In the magazine section of the Sunday New York Times there's a profile of David Cameron. His closest adviser is quoted as saying something like gay equality is a dead issue or gay equality has gone as far as it's going to go. Either way, it's pretty clear that the Tories aren't going to do anything to advance gay equality and in the unlikely event of a bill allowing gay marriage reached the Commons, I'm pretty certain the conservatives would vote against it wholesale. In the magazine section of the Sunday New York Times there's a profile of David Cameron. His closest adviser is quoted as saying something like gay equality is a dead issue or gay equality has gone as far as it's going to go. Either way, it's pretty clear that the Tories aren't going to do anything to advance gay equality and in the unlikely event of a bill allowing gay marriage reached the Commons, I'm pretty certain the conservatives would vote against it wholesale.

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]]> By: AdrianT http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62329 AdrianT Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:07:09 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62329 Yeah, Simon is right. To compare the Labour party with the ultra right wing nutters in Poland is off the scale stupidity. Yeah, Simon is right. To compare the Labour party with the ultra right wing nutters in Poland is off the scale stupidity.

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]]> By: SImon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62327 SImon Murphy Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:36:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62327 Indeed Labour may be opposed to gay marriage Vulpus Rex. But the leader of that Polish party thinks that acceptance of homosexuality will lead to the destruction of civilisation. And the Tories are chums with them. It just goes to show that despite 'Dave' PR Cameron's statement that the Tories are no longer homophobic it's quite obvious that they are still typical Tory bastards. Indeed Labour may be opposed to gay marriage Vulpus Rex. But the leader of that Polish party thinks that acceptance of homosexuality will lead to the destruction of civilisation. And the Tories are chums with them. It just goes to show that despite 'Dave' PR Cameron's statement that the Tories are no longer homophobic it's quite obvious that they are still typical Tory bastards.

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]]> By: c.j. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62325 c.j. Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:20:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62325 and this is poland, imaging what is going to happen when turkey is going to join the EU Gobble Gobble... and this is poland, imaging what is going to happen when turkey is going to join the EU

Gobble Gobble…

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]]> By: vulpus_rex http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62303 vulpus_rex Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:34:45 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62303 The Polish chap quoted in the article says that the polish party concerned are opposed to gay marriage. So are the Labour party, that clearly makes them monster, raving homphobes too. The Polish chap quoted in the article says that the polish party concerned are opposed to gay marriage.

So are the Labour party, that clearly makes them monster, raving homphobes too.

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62287 Robert, ex-pat Brit Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:58:03 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62287 This will be a case of "I told you so" once Cameron gets into number 10. Gay tories are ok with his of course just like their republican gay Log Cabiners in America, supporting a party that votes against them. This will be a case of "I told you so" once Cameron gets into number 10. Gay tories are ok with his of course just like their republican gay Log Cabiners in America, supporting a party that votes against them.

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]]> By: Anon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62281 Anon Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:09:12 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62281 Homophobia, clearly acceptable to Tories. Homophobia, clearly acceptable to Tories.

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]]> By: tony http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62274 tony Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:51:44 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62274 The tories will pay lip service to equality if they think it makes them look more attractive to voters, but as soon as it advantages them they will sell us down the river. They have no genuine interest in furthering equality. They have NEVER had one policy that proactively pushes the equality agenda. They may jump on the bandwagon and say they agree with things that have happened, but they would never implement anything themselves. If they get elected we can wave goodbye to any progress. The tories will pay lip service to equality if they think it makes them look more attractive to voters, but as soon as it advantages them they will sell us down the river. They have no genuine interest in furthering equality. They have NEVER had one policy that proactively pushes the equality agenda. They may jump on the bandwagon and say they agree with things that have happened, but they would never implement anything themselves. If they get elected we can wave goodbye to any progress.

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]]> By: Stuart Neyton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62273 Stuart Neyton Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:47:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62273 How could it possibly give them more power? I don't want to sound boring, but in the last parliament tories had some extremely high-ranking and influential positions as a direct result of their membership of the EPP, the largest group. Edward McMillan-Scott was vice-president of the parliament, Neil Parish was head of the agricultural committee, Jonathan Evans and Giles Chichester were head of the delegations with the US and Australia respectively, John Bowis practically shaped the EPP's entire health strategy, as did Malcolm Harbour with the internal market. These jobs are only given to members of the main two groups. How could they possibly have more influence in a group smaller than the greens? (Not that i'm criticising them, I voted for the Green Party). This also completely ignores the unsavoury people they've just jumped into bed with, which will likely hinder cooperation with larger groups. How could it possibly give them more power? I don't want to sound boring, but in the last parliament tories had some extremely high-ranking and influential positions as a direct result of their membership of the EPP, the largest group. Edward McMillan-Scott was vice-president of the parliament, Neil Parish was head of the agricultural committee, Jonathan Evans and Giles Chichester were head of the delegations with the US and Australia respectively, John Bowis practically shaped the EPP's entire health strategy, as did Malcolm Harbour with the internal market. These jobs are only given to members of the main two groups. How could they possibly have more influence in a group smaller than the greens? (Not that i'm criticising them, I voted for the Green Party). This also completely ignores the unsavoury people they've just jumped into bed with, which will likely hinder cooperation with larger groups.

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]]> By: Bob http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62219 Bob Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:15:46 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62219 Simon above has sussinctly made my point. Simon above has sussinctly made my point.

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62172 Simon Murphy Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:54:27 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62172 This just proves what we all knew already. Homophobia is perfectly acceptable to Tories. If they get into power gay rights will be up for sale if it suits them. Still though. What do you expect from a party with such a blatantly fake leader? This just proves what we all knew already. Homophobia is perfectly acceptable to Tories. If they get into power gay rights will be up for sale if it suits them. Still though. What do you expect from a party with such a blatantly fake leader?

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]]> By: Rich http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62169 Rich Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:22:15 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62169 The only thing the Tories will get is the lose of the next general election The only thing the Tories will get is the lose of the next general election

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]]> By: valerio http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62160 valerio Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:58:59 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62160 Let's hope not, Brian. I mean, if somebody wants to vote for Tories, go right ahead, but don't pretend that's not going to be detrimental to the interests of LGBT people in this country (and outside). If that is none of your concern, that's fine, but let's just call a spade a spade. Let's hope not, Brian. I mean, if somebody wants to vote for Tories, go right ahead, but don't pretend that's not going to be detrimental to the interests of LGBT people in this country (and outside). If that is none of your concern, that's fine, but let's just call a spade a spade.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62144 Brian Burton Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:40:29 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62144 The point is, apart from Vulpus rex, Will the Gay Vote be garenteed to the Torys after climbing into bed with the Polish Homophobic Party? The point is, apart from Vulpus rex, Will the Gay Vote be garenteed to the Torys after climbing into bed with the Polish Homophobic Party?

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]]> By: Noel http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html/comment-page-1/#comment-62141 Noel Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:25:20 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13205.html#comment-62141 Good old reasoned, seasoned and polished Tories. Good old reasoned, seasoned and polished Tories.

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