Comments on: Queen sends message of support to homophobic church movement http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:45:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John S http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-67061 John S Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:03:19 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-67061 The Queen is a saintly woman - a champion of all that's best about this country, with its many traditions and freedoms. If you don't like her stewardship, move to a republic (that's why the EU and the USA were created)! The Monarchy (in whatever country) has actually been the main protector of democracy / freedom - and dictators often rise via the powers invested in unchecked democratic republics (once we killed King Charles I a mad fundamentalist dictator, Oliver Cromwell, took charge and banned Christmas, as well as hunted down homosexuals!). In fact, many have pointed out that Hitler wouldn't have become leader of Germany if they'd have held onto their Monarch (Churchill was one of the first to point this out). Here are some republican dictators - Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Mugabe, Ahmadinejad, Saddam Hussain, etc - none of whom were / are very favourable to gay rights! Many Latin American democracies have spawned modern-day dictatorships, too, with their inability to stop the army or overly powerful elected Presidents. Because the Queen is a devout Christian does not make her automitically homophobic! And the fact that she employs many gay men and lesbians doesn't make her a raving gay libber! Life is not that simplistic. If someone does not support the liberal gay movement (which isn't that powerful or large, even amongst many gays - lots of whom are quite traditionalist and conservative) it DOES NOT make them homophobic...It just means that they might be better at appreciating the fact that it takes all sorts to make a world and that there are far more people out there who aren't concerned about gay marriage and forcing ancient institutions and people of faith to ditch thousands of years worth of teaching just to keep a small minorty happy. She is known to receive Communion often, and to hold traditional Anglican Christian beliefs, though would be as aware as the next person that many clergy are gay (whether they act on it or not). Why do so many on here think the world is made up of "evil homophobes" and / or "perfect gay clones"!? These are two extremes of the one rainbow...and most live happily in the middle, without ever resorting to irrational hate. God Save The Queen! Long may she reign over us! The Queen is a saintly woman – a champion of all that's best about this country, with its many traditions and freedoms. If you don't like her stewardship, move to a republic (that's why the EU and the USA were created)! The Monarchy (in whatever country) has actually been the main protector of democracy / freedom – and dictators often rise via the powers invested in unchecked democratic republics (once we killed King Charles I a mad fundamentalist dictator, Oliver Cromwell, took charge and banned Christmas, as well as hunted down homosexuals!). In fact, many have pointed out that Hitler wouldn't have become leader of Germany if they'd have held onto their Monarch (Churchill was one of the first to point this out). Here are some republican dictators – Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Mugabe, Ahmadinejad, Saddam Hussain, etc – none of whom were / are very favourable to gay rights! Many Latin American democracies have spawned modern-day dictatorships, too, with their inability to stop the army or overly powerful elected Presidents.

Because the Queen is a devout Christian does not make her automitically homophobic! And the fact that she employs many gay men and lesbians doesn't make her a raving gay libber! Life is not that simplistic. If someone does not support the liberal gay movement (which isn't that powerful or large, even amongst many gays – lots of whom are quite traditionalist and conservative) it DOES NOT make them homophobic…It just means that they might be better at appreciating the fact that it takes all sorts to make a world and that there are far more people out there who aren't concerned about gay marriage and forcing ancient institutions and people of faith to ditch thousands of years worth of teaching just to keep a small minorty happy. She is known to receive Communion often, and to hold traditional Anglican Christian beliefs, though would be as aware as the next person that many clergy are gay (whether they act on it or not).

Why do so many on here think the world is made up of "evil homophobes" and / or "perfect gay clones"!? These are two extremes of the one rainbow…and most live happily in the middle, without ever resorting to irrational hate.

God Save The Queen! Long may she reign over us!

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62910 Eddy Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:22:01 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62910 "Basically a nice person", eh? Well, thank you, Brian! :-) I think you are your Civil Partner should have the chance to live in Buck Palace, Windsor, Sandringham, and all the rest of the royal joints. I think we all should have the right. Yeah, it may be one great big competition and both you and I may not stand a cat in hell's chance against other contenders, but I think we should have the chance and regardless of our backgrounds. "Basically a nice person", eh? Well, thank you, Brian! :-)

I think you are your Civil Partner should have the chance to live in Buck Palace, Windsor, Sandringham, and all the rest of the royal joints. I think we all should have the right. Yeah, it may be one great big competition and both you and I may not stand a cat in hell's chance against other contenders, but I think we should have the chance and regardless of our backgrounds.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62896 Brian Burton Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:40:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62896 Eddy thank you, I thought for a moment you were not speaking. The reason Why the Juke of Edinburgh is living in Buckingham Palace is because he is the Queens Leagle Spouse. This entitles him to live with his wife, even if she is a Queen. The reason Brian Burton dose not Live in Buckinham Palace, is because I am a working-class peasent. Therefore, I prefer to Live with my Civil Partner in a Bungalow by the sea. The Solent, to be exact. All the huge Passenger Liners pass my way. My Partner and I met and fell in Love thirty nine years ago and we are still madly in Love now. We Civil Partnerd three years ago. I tell you these things Eddy because I think you are basically a nice person.....See you.....don't be a stranger! Eddy thank you, I thought for a moment you were not speaking.

The reason Why the Juke of Edinburgh is living in Buckingham Palace is because he is the Queens Leagle Spouse. This entitles him to live with his wife, even if she is a Queen.

The reason Brian Burton dose not Live in Buckinham Palace, is because I am a working-class peasent. Therefore, I prefer to Live with my Civil Partner in a Bungalow by the sea. The Solent, to be exact. All the huge Passenger Liners pass my way. My Partner and I met and fell in Love thirty nine years ago and we are still madly in Love now. We Civil Partnerd three years ago. I tell you these things Eddy because I think you are basically a nice person…..See you…..don't be a stranger!

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62884 Eddy Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:40:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62884 Brian, why is the Duke of Edinburgh living in Buckingham Palace and not you? Is he a more worthy human being than you? I say he is not! I say that you should have an absolutely equal chance of acquiring that position as he. Brian, why is the Duke of Edinburgh living in Buckingham Palace and not you? Is he a more worthy human being than you? I say he is not! I say that you should have an absolutely equal chance of acquiring that position as he.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62659 Brian Burton Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:50:23 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62659 Steady Eddy, How ungracious of you to treat our American Cousin Richard in that callous, demanding fashion? Americans can only know British Royalty from what they read, or are told by word of mouth. I suspect you do not know Royalty, not even as good as Richard. Richard...did you know that the Late Queen Mary never ate bread and butter with her fingers. She always ate bread and butter with a knife and fork. When I look around the world, at many Republican Countries on the one hand. They have more than often been in deep termoil. Britain's Monachy, on the other hand, has kept my country stable and for which I'll be eternally greatful. The Queen dose what she dose out of 'Duty,' somthing which is sadly lacking in Britain today. I knew a man who worked for Royalty for twenty five years. He told me The Royal Family are our best hope fore the future of this Country. Well, I certainly agree there. Take it easy Sweet Eddy x. Steady Eddy,
How ungracious of you to treat our American Cousin Richard in that callous, demanding fashion? Americans can only know British Royalty from what they read, or are told by word of mouth. I suspect you do not know Royalty, not even as good as Richard. Richard…did you know that the Late Queen Mary never ate bread and butter with her fingers. She always ate bread and butter with a knife and fork. When I look around the world, at many Republican Countries on the one hand. They have more than often been in deep termoil. Britain's Monachy, on the other hand, has kept my country stable and for which I'll be eternally greatful. The Queen dose what she dose out of 'Duty,' somthing which is sadly lacking in Britain today. I knew a man who worked for Royalty for twenty five years. He told me The Royal Family are our best hope fore the future of this Country. Well, I certainly agree there. Take it easy Sweet Eddy x.

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62634 Eddy Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:45:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62634 Richard, #119, yes, it no doubt is "nice" for our PMs to sit down with this simple woman who has lived through so many PMs and known them all. But I put it to you your Obama could just as easily go and sit down with an old woman in the United States who has lived through a stream of US Presidents! Furthermore, your Obama could locate, even better, some old guy or gal who is not just "nice", and well-behaved due to a life-time of gracious and privileged living, but some old guy or gal who maybe was a lecturer in politics throughout that long stream of Presidents. Now wouldn't they be able to offer some reflections of great quality? This Queen of ours has never applied herself to any rigorous thought or study, never saw the inside of a university as any kind of student. You say the Queen only has the interests of this country at heart. What evidence do you have for that? Have you been her psychoanalyst over the past five decades? Richard, the Queen is part of the Tory establishment of England! She is part and parcel of the Anglican Church, the Conservative Party, and every hare and hound we have! Like other members of the English aristocracy she holidays in parts of Scotland which her forebears have commandeered from the Scots for their own use. How do you feel about aristocracy? Do you not think they are an anachronism? Richard, #119, yes, it no doubt is "nice" for our PMs to sit down with this simple woman who has lived through so many PMs and known them all. But I put it to you your Obama could just as easily go and sit down with an old woman in the United States who has lived through a stream of US Presidents! Furthermore, your Obama could locate, even better, some old guy or gal who is not just "nice", and well-behaved due to a life-time of gracious and privileged living, but some old guy or gal who maybe was a lecturer in politics throughout that long stream of Presidents. Now wouldn't they be able to offer some reflections of great quality? This Queen of ours has never applied herself to any rigorous thought or study, never saw the inside of a university as any kind of student.

You say the Queen only has the interests of this country at heart. What evidence do you have for that? Have you been her psychoanalyst over the past five decades? Richard, the Queen is part of the Tory establishment of England! She is part and parcel of the Anglican Church, the Conservative Party, and every hare and hound we have! Like other members of the English aristocracy she holidays in parts of Scotland which her forebears have commandeered from the Scots for their own use. How do you feel about aristocracy? Do you not think they are an anachronism?

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]]> By: Richard http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62537 Richard Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:10:53 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62537 I am an American and a history buff. I especially enjoy English history prior to James I. Regarding this letter. John in #56 sums up all the best points anyone could possibly make. Please read his post in full. Regarding the benefits of Queen Elizabeth, Prime Minister Tony Blair made it pain as day to me. It would be of enormous benefit to President Obama if once a week he could sit down or walk with an American who was alive in World War II, who had personally known and been advised by President Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush - who had had lived through and been a vital part of the Korean War, Cuban Missile Crisis, the entire Cold War, the building of and tearing down of the Berlin Wall, the Berlin Air Drop, the Vietnam War, all Middle Eatearn Wars, the 60's domestic unrest, the race civil rights riots, the changing of the workplace to accomadate women, the space program .... just think of the history between 1952 and now. What a powerhouse, what a treasure of advice this would be for President Obama .... all quite condfidential, AND all quite non-political. An amazing asset to a political leader. Frankly, as an American, I envy the Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom and of Canada with the Queen is able to visit. She is an amazing AND non-political asset to the politicians of your countries. I wish we had such an asset built into our system. We have wonderful advisors but they are all politically biased - quite biased, very biased. No one ONLY has the best interests of the country in mind as Queen Elizabeth and the Windsors do. They need not seek wealth or power or political position - only the best for the Common Wealth and the United Kingdom and Canada and Australia etc. It really is a brilliant system when you think of it. At least that is my two cents worth from across the pond. I am an American and a history buff. I especially enjoy English history prior to James I.

Regarding this letter. John in #56 sums up all the best points anyone could possibly make. Please read his post in full.

Regarding the benefits of Queen Elizabeth, Prime Minister Tony Blair made it pain as day to me. It would be of enormous benefit to President Obama if once a week he could sit down or walk with an American who was alive in World War II, who had personally known and been advised by President Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush – who had had lived through and been a vital part of the Korean War, Cuban Missile Crisis, the entire Cold War, the building of and tearing down of the Berlin Wall, the Berlin Air Drop, the Vietnam War, all Middle Eatearn Wars, the 60's domestic unrest, the race civil rights riots, the changing of the workplace to accomadate women, the space program …. just think of the history between 1952 and now. What a powerhouse, what a treasure of advice this would be for President Obama …. all quite condfidential, AND all quite non-political.

An amazing asset to a political leader. Frankly, as an American, I envy the Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom and of Canada with the Queen is able to visit. She is an amazing AND non-political asset to the politicians of your countries. I wish we had such an asset built into our system.

We have wonderful advisors but they are all politically biased – quite biased, very biased. No one ONLY has the best interests of the country in mind as Queen Elizabeth and the Windsors do. They need not seek wealth or power or political position – only the best for the Common Wealth and the United Kingdom and Canada and Australia etc. It really is a brilliant system when you think of it.

At least that is my two cents worth from across the pond.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62434 Brian Burton Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:51:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62434 Steady EDDY, You must not adopt this 'Holier Than Thou' stance all of a sudden. Let me say that I think ALL comments on these Pink threads are valid, just as enyone elses are. You cannot take it upon yourself to 'pigion hole' or indeed, sit as Judge and Jury on any of the people offering comment. If it's strictley my support of RobN you object to? I could object to you siding always with Simon Murphy. Simon Murpy and I are always at odds on these threads, but, that dose not stop me from Liking him. Now, Steady Eddy, I have always thought of you as an 'Arse-Licking gutter-snipe, but that dose not stop me Licking you either. Life is too short Eddy. You are probably young and the young must be passionate and that's you Eddy! When I was on Chemo-theripy for cancer (now cleared thank God) I had an appointment with my chiropodist. The green-leaves of my summer was, I felt, rappidly turning. The lady examined my toenails and told me they were about to fall off because of Chemo. Since then, I and people like RobN, I suppose, have become 'White Van Men,' a bit recless but would first do no harm! Take it easy sweet Steady Eddy X. Steady EDDY,
You must not adopt this 'Holier Than Thou' stance all of a sudden.
Let me say that I think ALL comments on these Pink threads are valid, just as enyone elses are. You cannot take it upon yourself to 'pigion hole' or indeed, sit as Judge and Jury on any of the people offering comment. If it's strictley my support of RobN you object to? I could object to you siding always with Simon Murphy. Simon Murpy and I are always at odds on these threads, but, that dose not stop me from Liking him. Now, Steady Eddy, I have always thought of you as an 'Arse-Licking gutter-snipe, but that dose not stop me Licking you either. Life is too short Eddy. You are probably young and the young must be passionate and that's you Eddy!
When I was on Chemo-theripy for cancer (now cleared thank God) I had an appointment with my chiropodist. The green-leaves of my summer was, I felt, rappidly turning. The lady examined my toenails and told me they were about to fall off because of Chemo.
Since then, I and people like RobN, I suppose, have become 'White Van Men,' a bit recless but would first do no harm!
Take it easy sweet Steady Eddy X.

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62419 Eddy Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:42:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62419 Brian, you might be interested to know that when I first started visiting these threads I thought you were sound, but just lately it has seemed to me your comments have been rather off the wall. I just react to comments, not the people who write them. For example, if RobN suddenly started writing things which were supportive of gay activism, of furthering the fight for true gay equality, I would applaud his comments immediately. Brian, you might be interested to know that when I first started visiting these threads I thought you were sound, but just lately it has seemed to me your comments have been rather off the wall.

I just react to comments, not the people who write them. For example, if RobN suddenly started writing things which were supportive of gay activism, of furthering the fight for true gay equality, I would applaud his comments immediately.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62401 Brian Burton Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:39:54 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62401 Eddy, I think I'll call you 'Steady Eddy' from now on. You have a steady flow Nikki-knock-noo flowing my way, and please don't ask me to marry you, will you Eddy? Eddy,
I think I'll call you 'Steady Eddy' from now on. You have a steady flow Nikki-knock-noo flowing my way, and please don't ask me to marry you, will you Eddy?

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62394 Brian Burton Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:46:45 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62394 Eddy, Grockles is strictly an Isle Of Wight Tetm for 'oveners,' thats visitors to the Island. Should you ever be privaledged to visit same. Lunch at the Bowsprit Restaurant on Gurnard seafront. It's my favourite eating place. I lived on the Island for seventeen years. Incidently, I never gossip about Royalty! Eddy,
Grockles is strictly an Isle Of Wight Tetm for 'oveners,' thats visitors to the Island. Should you ever be privaledged to visit same. Lunch at the Bowsprit Restaurant on Gurnard seafront. It's my favourite eating place. I lived on the Island for seventeen years.
Incidently, I never gossip about Royalty!

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62299 Eddy Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:54:06 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62299 You AND every member of the Royal Family, Brian! :-) Do you remember Edward being caught referring to visitors to Windsors Palace as "the grockles"? You AND every member of the Royal Family, Brian! :-)

Do you remember Edward being caught referring to visitors to Windsors Palace as "the grockles"?

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62288 Brian Burton Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:09:18 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62288 The only thing that sustains me through life is the consciousness of the immense inferiority of everybody else, now this is a feeling I have always cultivated. The only thing that sustains me through life is the consciousness of the immense inferiority of everybody else, now this is a feeling I have always cultivated.

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62260 Eddy Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:49:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62260 Andy and Steve, so good to read your words. What a good idea of yours to fill in the web box with the address of The National Secular Society! I must try to remember to do the same. Andy and Steve, so good to read your words. What a good idea of yours to fill in the web box with the address of The National Secular Society! I must try to remember to do the same.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62256 Brian Burton Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:40:11 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62256 Bishop loan, You are Boy-mad! fancy getting names mixed! BOY-MAD, who is'nt? Bishop loan,
You are Boy-mad! fancy getting names mixed! BOY-MAD, who is'nt?

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]]> By: Roy Norry http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62205 Roy Norry Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:04:38 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62205 What is being said about the Queen in terms of 'the constitution' and her being 'unelected' holds no water today because the Queen signed away the constitution some time ago thanks to Gordon Brown's secret deal with the EU commission, that unelected, unaccountable, self appointed dictatorship. What is being said about the Queen in terms of 'the constitution' and her being 'unelected' holds no water today because the Queen signed away the constitution some time ago thanks to Gordon Brown's secret deal with the EU commission, that unelected, unaccountable, self appointed dictatorship.

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]]> By: Roy Norry http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62204 Roy Norry Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:02:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62204 People here speak of the demise of the constituion and about the Queen being a dictator, un elected. Well, I think that's a little outdated. The Queen effectively signed away the constitution a while ago, thanks to Gordon Brown and his secret deal with the EU, and as for unelected, what is the EU commison if not unelected, self appointed and unaccountable. What's happening to Britain thanks to successive governments selling it down the river to Europe negates any comments about the Queen, the constitution and whether or not she was elected. The EU owns us and holds the Crown these days, not the Queen. People here speak of the demise of the constituion and about the Queen being a dictator, un elected. Well, I think that's a little outdated. The Queen effectively signed away the constitution a while ago, thanks to Gordon Brown and his secret deal with the EU, and as for unelected, what is the EU commison if not unelected, self appointed and unaccountable. What's happening to Britain thanks to successive governments selling it down the river to Europe negates any comments about the Queen, the constitution and whether or not she was elected. The EU owns us and holds the Crown these days, not the Queen.

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]]> By: Bishop Ioan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62103 Bishop Ioan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:44:13 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62103 Erm, sorry, Kieth, I meant Brian Erm, sorry, Kieth, I meant Brian

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]]> By: Bishop Ioan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62069 Bishop Ioan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:35:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62069 No problem Keith and apology accepted. I simply do not feel competent to comment on the message sent without seeing the text. I am 100% against characters such as the Bishop of Rochester who use their post to spew misogyny and hatred of GLBTQ people. If anyone should repent it is he. No problem Keith and apology accepted. I simply do not feel competent to comment on the message sent without seeing the text. I am 100% against characters such as the Bishop of Rochester who use their post to spew misogyny and hatred of GLBTQ people. If anyone should repent it is he.

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]]> By: Andy & Steve http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html/comment-page-3/#comment-62044 Andy & Steve Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:56:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13123.html#comment-62044 Ironic really that all these god fearing English folk are happy having a German as Head of State. And, as for all the twaddle about Her Madge bringing tourists to the country... CRAP. Our history brings tourists to this country. That is the past - and is exactly where the Monarchy belongs. The piss taking of the world's richest woman whining about not having enough taxpayers money to keep her extended family in the style to which they have, unfortunately, been allowed to become accustomed should point up to even the most virulent arch royalists that they are mugs for supporting this out dated anachronistic sham. We all live in the 21st Century. Monarchy belongs to the past - when people were hoodwinked into touching their forelocks and "knowing their place". Of course to cap it all we're supposed to believe that Her Madge is "chosen by God" - so that's two myths supporting each other..... Ironic really that all these god fearing English folk are happy having a German as Head of State.

And, as for all the twaddle about Her Madge bringing tourists to the country… CRAP. Our history brings tourists to this country. That is the past – and is exactly where the Monarchy belongs.

The piss taking of the world's richest woman whining about not having enough taxpayers money to keep her extended family in the style to which they have, unfortunately, been allowed to become accustomed should point up to even the most virulent arch royalists that they are mugs for supporting this out dated anachronistic sham.

We all live in the 21st Century. Monarchy belongs to the past – when people were hoodwinked into touching their forelocks and "knowing their place".

Of course to cap it all we're supposed to believe that Her Madge is "chosen by God" – so that's two myths supporting each other…..

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