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		<title>By: RobN</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - I just read the other comments after typing the above - seems I&#039;m not alone in this line of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; I just read the other comments after typing the above &#8211; seems I'm not alone in this line of thinking.
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		<title>By: RobN</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doe&#039;s that also mean that white people can join the Black Police Officers association, or women can walk through the &quot;men only&quot; door in mosques? I thought not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doe's that also mean that white people can join the Black Police Officers association, or women can walk through the "men only" door in mosques? I thought not.
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, David, nice of you to cut and paste the SAME comment from another thread, now we know how stupid your views are in TWO threads. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, David, nice of you to cut and paste the SAME comment from another thread, now we know how stupid your views are in TWO threads. Well done.
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		<title>By: david skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>david skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a problem here. On the one hand there seems to be the desire not to be stereotypically gay - but instead to look like regular, normal guys, like the rest of the 98- 99% heterosexual population, but then there is the desire to be recognised as a distinct entity, in the same way that one would recognise a black man at a hundred paces.  So how do gays you come out? How are they to be noticed without anyone noticing? How, apart from telling us, are we to know, without our knowing that we know, we know that we know, that someone is gay  ?

For a man to walk about hand in hand with another man is going to be noticed, certainly in Frinton on Sea, unless you can persuade all the men in Frinton  to walk about hand in hand.- only then would we not know who was bent and who was straight.  As for being accepted, rather being tolerated, as Goths and punks apparently are, Goths and punks do not identify themselves biologically as a distinct species. They did not wake up one morning and discover that they are Goths - or punks. Neither do they make special claims or try to differentiate themselves from the rest of  society by having  Goth only Olympic games, goth- only restaurants, clubs, hotels, Goth Sunday at London Zoo, London Goth Parade, Goth history month, Goth MPs. Nor do they, when accused of breaking the law, automatically appeal  for special dispensation: “ that’s Gothphobic hatred.” 

Rod Brandauer (17), You were doing quite well when you cried “Freedom of speech behaviour. Freedom to criticise religion, freedom of thought, freedom of artist expression. Its a democracy we live in, not a religious police state.” 
Pity that you spoilt it with “So f*ckoff back to the pit your crawled out of Skinner.”
So it is freedom of speech for you  but not for me .
It is OK for Mckellen to incite Christophobic hatred with his recitation and it is OK for speech hatred to be directed at me personally on the Pink News, but for me to make the slightest suggestion that homosexual behaviour is wrong is going to mean that the Homosexual Thought Police, or the Association of Gay Police  are indeed shortly going to be knocking on my door at 4.00 am.  


Tom Paine (32)
You describe exactly the situation in Britain at the moment. Gordon Brown, the Eagle sisters, Peter Mandelson, Chris Brayant, Ben Bradshaw, Lord Chris Smith, Ben Summerskill and Sir Trevor Phillips, the Equality and Human Rights Commissioner, are already reading  our minds, and controlling  our consciences. Soon with clause 61 of the Coroners and Justice Bill they will  convict us with seven year prison sentence for not going into standing ovation mode for all things homosexual.  
 “Jealous, proud, petty, unjust, unforgiving, control-freak; vindictive, misogynistic, Christianophobic, heterophobic, infanticidal (200, 000 babies aborted in Britain alone each year), megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully” describes exactly all those who subscribe to London Pride and  the Stonewall Awards evening.   
The God Sod Off party is indeed a light hearted way of introducing homosexual totalitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a problem here. On the one hand there seems to be the desire not to be stereotypically gay &#8211; but instead to look like regular, normal guys, like the rest of the 98- 99% heterosexual population, but then there is the desire to be recognised as a distinct entity, in the same way that one would recognise a black man at a hundred paces.  So how do gays you come out? How are they to be noticed without anyone noticing? How, apart from telling us, are we to know, without our knowing that we know, we know that we know, that someone is gay  ?</p>
<p>For a man to walk about hand in hand with another man is going to be noticed, certainly in Frinton on Sea, unless you can persuade all the men in Frinton  to walk about hand in hand.- only then would we not know who was bent and who was straight.  As for being accepted, rather being tolerated, as Goths and punks apparently are, Goths and punks do not identify themselves biologically as a distinct species. They did not wake up one morning and discover that they are Goths &#8211; or punks. Neither do they make special claims or try to differentiate themselves from the rest of  society by having  Goth only Olympic games, goth- only restaurants, clubs, hotels, Goth Sunday at London Zoo, London Goth Parade, Goth history month, Goth MPs. Nor do they, when accused of breaking the law, automatically appeal  for special dispensation: “ that’s Gothphobic hatred.” </p>
<p>Rod Brandauer (17), You were doing quite well when you cried “Freedom of speech behaviour. Freedom to criticise religion, freedom of thought, freedom of artist expression. Its a democracy we live in, not a religious police state.”<br />
Pity that you spoilt it with “So f*ckoff back to the pit your crawled out of Skinner.”<br />
So it is freedom of speech for you  but not for me .<br />
It is OK for Mckellen to incite Christophobic hatred with his recitation and it is OK for speech hatred to be directed at me personally on the Pink News, but for me to make the slightest suggestion that homosexual behaviour is wrong is going to mean that the Homosexual Thought Police, or the Association of Gay Police  are indeed shortly going to be knocking on my door at 4.00 am.  </p>
<p>Tom Paine (32)<br />
You describe exactly the situation in Britain at the moment. Gordon Brown, the Eagle sisters, Peter Mandelson, Chris Brayant, Ben Bradshaw, Lord Chris Smith, Ben Summerskill and Sir Trevor Phillips, the Equality and Human Rights Commissioner, are already reading  our minds, and controlling  our consciences. Soon with clause 61 of the Coroners and Justice Bill they will  convict us with seven year prison sentence for not going into standing ovation mode for all things homosexual.<br />
 “Jealous, proud, petty, unjust, unforgiving, control-freak; vindictive, misogynistic, Christianophobic, heterophobic, infanticidal (200, 000 babies aborted in Britain alone each year), megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully” describes exactly all those who subscribe to London Pride and  the Stonewall Awards evening.<br />
The God Sod Off party is indeed a light hearted way of introducing homosexual totalitarianism.
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		<title>By: Bud Burgoon-Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Burgoon-Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Priests in South America and Africa also have plural wives ... THAT&#039;S &quot;acculturation&quot; ... but HOMOSEXUALITY is an &quot;ABOMINATION.&quot;

&quot;Religious logic&quot; is like &quot;military intelligence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Priests in South America and Africa also have plural wives &#8230; THAT'S "acculturation" &#8230; but HOMOSEXUALITY is an "ABOMINATION."</p>
<p>"Religious logic" is like "military intelligence."
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5: Rich: &quot;There are female priests in the Roman Catholic church particularly in Brazil&quot;

And what is the opinion of the infallible Pope Ratzinger on these female priests? Does he welcome them?

This discussion is about the UK - catholic schools receive some state funding despite having an obviously discriminatory policy towards the rights of their staff and members. That is no different to the BNP policy. Neither policy is acceptable of course but it&#039;s not acceptable to penalise the BNP and not penalise the catholic cult for their discriminatory policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5: Rich: "There are female priests in the Roman Catholic church particularly in Brazil"</p>
<p>And what is the opinion of the infallible Pope Ratzinger on these female priests? Does he welcome them?</p>
<p>This discussion is about the UK &#8211; catholic schools receive some state funding despite having an obviously discriminatory policy towards the rights of their staff and members. That is no different to the BNP policy. Neither policy is acceptable of course but it's not acceptable to penalise the BNP and not penalise the catholic cult for their discriminatory policies.
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		<title>By: bentham</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what an interesting thread...z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z--z</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what an interesting thread&#8230;z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z&#8211;z
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Simon - There are female priests in the Roman Catholic church particularly in Brazil where men are in very shoert supply for the priesthood. With regard to the BNP inviting gays to join them. Nazis are Nazis they kill and murder gays and anyone else they feel like killing in the name of their digusting policies. Those that mix with swill will be eaten by the pigs. Remember, you are judged by the company you keep. These foul apologies for human beings are sickening to the stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://twitter.com/Simon" rel="nofollow">@Simon</a> &#8211; There are female priests in the Roman Catholic church particularly in Brazil where men are in very shoert supply for the priesthood. With regard to the BNP inviting gays to join them. Nazis are Nazis they kill and murder gays and anyone else they feel like killing in the name of their digusting policies. Those that mix with swill will be eaten by the pigs. Remember, you are judged by the company you keep. These foul apologies for human beings are sickening to the stomach.
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		<title>By: vulpus_rex</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps those thinking about bringing the prosecution could also have a look at the membership rules of the Black police officer&#039;s association.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps those thinking about bringing the prosecution could also have a look at the membership rules of the Black police officer's association.
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		<title>By: Nazi bumhole eater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nazi bumhole eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sieg Heil! Ve shall crush the untermenschen ,ze inferior fat people,those with male pattern baldness,the mentally disturbed,ze cripples,vose who wear Primark clothing,those who oppose ze queer world domination. Dee Vorld is ours. Long live shit love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sieg Heil! Ve shall crush the untermenschen ,ze inferior fat people,those with male pattern baldness,the mentally disturbed,ze cripples,vose who wear Primark clothing,those who oppose ze queer world domination. Dee Vorld is ours. Long live shit love!
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		<title>By: Lezabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lezabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I decide I want to join an extremist Islamic Group (like The Muslim Council Of Britain for example), but refuse to convert to Islam and refuse to cover up like some subservient dickhead slave-woman.....can I bring about an injunction on them on the grounds of religious and sex discrimination????

Thought not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I decide I want to join an extremist Islamic Group (like The Muslim Council Of Britain for example), but refuse to convert to Islam and refuse to cover up like some subservient dickhead slave-woman&#8230;..can I bring about an injunction on them on the grounds of religious and sex discrimination????</p>
<p>Thought not.
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mixed feelings on this one. 

While on the 1 hand I think the BNP&#039;s membership rules are vile and racist I am also aware that the muslim and catholic cults receive state funding for schools etc that they run. If the BNP can be called to court for their membership policy then I think equally the catholic cult snould be hauled to court for not allowing female priests (ie their membership policy) when the cult receives state funding. 

Why is there a double standard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mixed feelings on this one. </p>
<p>While on the 1 hand I think the BNP's membership rules are vile and racist I am also aware that the muslim and catholic cults receive state funding for schools etc that they run. If the BNP can be called to court for their membership policy then I think equally the catholic cult snould be hauled to court for not allowing female priests (ie their membership policy) when the cult receives state funding. </p>
<p>Why is there a double standard?
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