Comments on: Ricky Martin comes out as bisexual http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:34:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: chantelle http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-65093 chantelle Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:30:38 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-65093 offs what's this with people saying bi's are just hiding & that they're really gay grow up will you,some people ARE genuinely bi some are gay some are straight (I myself am straight btw, just found a link to this while looking for stuff on Ricky ) I accept there are gays, bi's & those who are confused try to accept it's NOT all black & white! And as for those stating Ricky has done nothing for humanity I beg to differ if you do your research you will see he does an awful LOT for charities including the sabera foundation, he also helped to drag dead bodies out of the water after the tsunami & he is doing a lot of charity work to help raise awareness of child trafficking so stick that in your pipe & smoke it smartasses. Learn the facts before you slag someone off & say they're "just" a popstar & fyi he does still do music, his new album is set for release next year, his last one was in 2005 & he toured for 2 & a half solid years until a few months before the twins were born! So he's hardly a hasbeen!!! also fyi he got a star on the walk of fame last year too! offs what's this with people saying bi's are just hiding & that they're really gay grow up will you,some people ARE genuinely bi some are gay some are straight (I myself am straight btw, just found a link to this while looking for stuff on Ricky )

I accept there are gays, bi's & those who are confused try to accept it's NOT all black & white!

And as for those stating Ricky has done nothing for humanity I beg to differ if you do your research you will see he does an awful LOT for charities including the sabera foundation, he also helped to drag dead bodies out of the water after the tsunami & he is doing a lot of charity work to help raise awareness of child trafficking so stick that in your pipe & smoke it smartasses.

Learn the facts before you slag someone off & say they're "just" a popstar & fyi he does still do music, his new album is set for release next year, his last one was in 2005 & he toured for 2 & a half solid years until a few months before the twins were born!

So he's hardly a hasbeen!!!

also fyi he got a star on the walk of fame last year too!

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]]> By: Monkeychops http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-59504 Monkeychops Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:36:19 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-59504 Rob-Ex Pat - Are you serious? The comment about bisexuals actually being gay, only they're too scared to admit it? Every single, last one? Why would there even be a "B" in LGBT if it didn't exist? Come on, seriously, do some homework first, talk to some bisexuals who are open about it. I just don't understand your issues - why are you so convinced they are ALL just hiding? How narrow-minded of you! It sounds more like you have issues because bisexual guys may engage in gay practices but they're straighter than you'll ever be. Does that make you feel inferior? Because you can't compete with them? Do something about it if so, rather than attacking people who are fighting for the same rights. Why do you feel the need to belittle them? No wonder there are so many bisexuals pretending to be straight when this is what they face! And yes, there are guys who just want sex with men but kissing and romance they prefer with women..what is so strange about that? Men and women have different qualities, it's hardly surprising bisexuals might be interested in the parts that make each gender different. Maybe Ricky had a surrogate because a)he's currently with a man and therefore cannot reproduce directly, b)he's not with anyone at all and wanted to have a child or c) women he's been with didn't want to have kids yet etc etc. There could be a thousand reasons. Him being gay and not bisexual is just one of many possibilities. But it's his life. And no wonder, if he is bisexual, with guys like you trying to tell him what he really is and that he just can't accept it, he'll just keep it hidden forever. This is not constructive. Rob-Ex Pat – Are you serious? The comment about bisexuals actually being gay, only they're too scared to admit it? Every single, last one? Why would there even be a "B" in LGBT if it didn't exist? Come on, seriously, do some homework first, talk to some bisexuals who are open about it. I just don't understand your issues – why are you so convinced they are ALL just hiding? How narrow-minded of you! It sounds more like you have issues because bisexual guys may engage in gay practices but they're straighter than you'll ever be. Does that make you feel inferior? Because you can't compete with them? Do something about it if so, rather than attacking people who are fighting for the same rights. Why do you feel the need to belittle them? No wonder there are so many bisexuals pretending to be straight when this is what they face! And yes, there are guys who just want sex with men but kissing and romance they prefer with women..what is so strange about that? Men and women have different qualities, it's hardly surprising bisexuals might be interested in the parts that make each gender different.

Maybe Ricky had a surrogate because a)he's currently with a man and therefore cannot reproduce directly, b)he's not with anyone at all and wanted to have a child or c) women he's been with didn't want to have kids yet etc etc. There could be a thousand reasons. Him being gay and not bisexual is just one of many possibilities. But it's his life. And no wonder, if he is bisexual, with guys like you trying to tell him what he really is and that he just can't accept it, he'll just keep it hidden forever.

This is not constructive.

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]]> By: bentham http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-59438 bentham Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:41:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-59438 The Rembrant Hotel on Canal St. Got it. Friday at midnight? The Rembrant Hotel on Canal St. Got it. Friday at midnight?

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-59382 Robert, ex-pat Brit Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:48:17 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-59382 I'm of the opinion that bisexuality is more about sitting on the fence, people struggling to come to terms that they are actually gay. If Ricky is bi, then why did he use a surrogate mother which would imply in most cases using artificial insemination? Why couldn't he have sex with a woman the natural way? Makes no sense. A lot of "bi" men especially marry a woman and even have kids in some instances just to hide their gay side, many can't accept it, and most do not confide their other orientation to their "girlfriends" or wives. What an awful way to live but I suppose living a lie and deceiving others is okay. Some even vote against our equality. I've even met some so called "bi" men who claim that kissing and romance are reserved only for women. I'm of the opinion that bisexuality is more about sitting on the fence, people struggling to come to terms that they are actually gay. If Ricky is bi, then why did he use a surrogate mother which would imply in most cases using artificial insemination? Why couldn't he have sex with a woman the natural way? Makes no sense. A lot of "bi" men especially marry a woman and even have kids in some instances just to hide their gay side, many can't accept it, and most do not confide their other orientation to their "girlfriends" or wives. What an awful way to live but I suppose living a lie and deceiving others is okay. Some even vote against our equality. I've even met some so called "bi" men who claim that kissing and romance are reserved only for women.

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]]> By: Nazi bumhole eater http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-59255 Nazi bumhole eater Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:08:09 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-59255 Ze are no bisexuals,ze are no straight people only ze gays. All people like to eat ze hairy bumhole if they are honest with themselves. Bumlove Vorld domination shall be ours! Ze are no bisexuals,ze are no straight people only ze gays. All people like to eat ze hairy bumhole if they are honest with themselves. Bumlove Vorld domination shall be ours!

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-59182 Brian Burton Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:08:29 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-59182 Who's Ricky Martain again....? Who's Ricky Martain again….?

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]]> By: tony http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-59085 tony Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:15:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-59085 @RobN That is a really offensive thing to say. Of course bisexuals exist. Yes it is true that some gay people use it as a stepping stone in coming out, but there are many people who are genuinely bisexaul. There is scientific research to back this up which shows that true bisexuality is rare among men, but does exist, while it is not at all uncommon among women. I know a few genuine bisexuals who have had hapy long-term relationships with people of both genders. The queer community doesn't need infighting; we need to show each other support. @RobN That is a really offensive thing to say. Of course bisexuals exist. Yes it is true that some gay people use it as a stepping stone in coming out, but there are many people who are genuinely bisexaul. There is scientific research to back this up which shows that true bisexuality is rare among men, but does exist, while it is not at all uncommon among women. I know a few genuine bisexuals who have had hapy long-term relationships with people of both genders. The queer community doesn't need infighting; we need to show each other support.

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]]> By: cuzzyluv http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-59025 cuzzyluv Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:28:39 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-59025 everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how stupid it is, for example I think bisexuals are filthy and that doing rude things to girls is against the order of nature, but what the heck its just an opinion, I just want Ricky to be gay because he is cute and stars in some of my phantasies !!! everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how stupid it is, for example I think bisexuals are filthy and that doing rude things to girls is against the order of nature, but what the heck its just an opinion, I just want Ricky to be gay because he is cute and stars in some of my phantasies !!!

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]]> By: Thom http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58998 Thom Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:05:26 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58998 Why do so many of the gays have such a problem with the bis?? I don't get it - people have been telling us [gays] for years that we are un-natural and wrong and some just refuse to believe we exist. We have come so far since the stonewall Riots, but reading this thread you would never have guessed it! It's not about in-house fighting!! If someone is bisexual they are bisexual. Why can't you get that? RobN: "Bisexuality is a myth. I'm not saying there aren't varying shades of grey, and very few people are totally gay or totally straight, but only the greedy or confused ones dabble, everyone falls one side of the fence or the other sooner or later." Like seriously, do you actually agree with what you have said? You sound almost as bigoted as the religious far right! Do you have any idea how offensive it is to attack someone’s bisexuality as 'greedy' or 'confused'; its small minded biphobic gays like you that are stopping the LGBTIQA [got to include them all! ;) ] community from reaching global equality and access to basic human rights! I mean obviously, you must think your own homosexuality to be an abhorrent perversion of the greatest magnitude to be so full of hate you have to drag the bis down with you! - Besides, sexuality is totally irrelevant anyway! A social construct to further maintain the gender binary that has served us so well over the centuries - but that’s a conversation on a completely different theme... Stop fighting with your brothers and sisters, we are all on the same side!! And as for the Ricky Martin 'news' - is it? I mean do I care? I don't care if he is gay, straight, bi, trans, inter, queer or whatever!! It's not like we have a right to know anyway... give the man some privacy! Why do so many of the gays have such a problem with the bis?? I don't get it – people have been telling us [gays] for years that we are un-natural and wrong and some just refuse to believe we exist. We have come so far since the stonewall Riots, but reading this thread you would never have guessed it! It's not about in-house fighting!!
If someone is bisexual they are bisexual. Why can't you get that?

RobN: "Bisexuality is a myth. I'm not saying there aren't varying shades of grey, and very few people are totally gay or totally straight, but only the greedy or confused ones dabble, everyone falls one side of the fence or the other sooner or later."

Like seriously, do you actually agree with what you have said? You sound almost as bigoted as the religious far right! Do you have any idea how offensive it is to attack someone’s bisexuality as 'greedy' or 'confused'; its small minded biphobic gays like you that are stopping the LGBTIQA [got to include them all! ;) ] community from reaching global equality and access to basic human rights! I mean obviously, you must think your own homosexuality to be an abhorrent perversion of the greatest magnitude to be so full of hate you have to drag the bis down with you! – Besides, sexuality is totally irrelevant anyway! A social construct to further maintain the gender binary that has served us so well over the centuries – but that’s a conversation on a completely different theme…

Stop fighting with your brothers and sisters, we are all on the same side!!

And as for the Ricky Martin 'news' – is it? I mean do I care? I don't care if he is gay, straight, bi, trans, inter, queer or whatever!! It's not like we have a right to know anyway… give the man some privacy!

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]]> By: Thom http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58997 Thom Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:03:26 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58997 Why do so many of the gays have such a problem with the bis?? I don't get it - people have been telling us [gays] for years that we are un-natural and wrong and some just refuse to believe we exist. We have come so far since the stonewall Riots, but reading this thread you would never have guessed it! It's not about in-house fighting!! If someone is bisexual they are bisexual. Why can't you get that? RobN: "Bisexuality is a myth. I'm not saying there aren't varying shades of grey, and very few people are totally gay or totally straight, but only the greedy or confused ones dabble, everyone falls one side of the fence or the other sooner or later." Like seriously, do you actually agree with what you have said? You sound almost as bigoted as the religious far right! Do you have any idea how offensive it is to attack someones bisexuality as 'greedy' or 'confused'; its small minded biphobic gays like you that are stopping the LGBTIQA [got to include them all! ;) ] community from reaching global equality and access to basic human rights! I mean obviously, you must think your own homosexuality to be an abhorrent perversion of the greatest magnitude to be so full of hate you have to drag the bis down with you! - Besides, sexuality is totally irrelevant anyway! A social construct to further maintain the gender bianary that has served us so well over the centuries - but thats a conversation on a completely different theme... Stop fighting with your brothers and sisters, we are all on the same side!! And as for the Ricky Martin 'news' - is it? I mean do I care? I don't care if he is gay, straight, bi, trans, inter, queer or whatever!! It's not like we have a right to know anyway... give the man some privacy! Why do so many of the gays have such a problem with the bis?? I don't get it – people have been telling us [gays] for years that we are un-natural and wrong and some just refuse to believe we exist. We have come so far since the stonewall Riots, but reading this thread you would never have guessed it! It's not about in-house fighting!!
If someone is bisexual they are bisexual. Why can't you get that?

RobN: "Bisexuality is a myth. I'm not saying there aren't varying shades of grey, and very few people are totally gay or totally straight, but only the greedy or confused ones dabble, everyone falls one side of the fence or the other sooner or later."

Like seriously, do you actually agree with what you have said? You sound almost as bigoted as the religious far right! Do you have any idea how offensive it is to attack someones bisexuality as 'greedy' or 'confused'; its small minded biphobic gays like you that are stopping the LGBTIQA [got to include them all! ;) ] community from reaching global equality and access to basic human rights! I mean obviously, you must think your own homosexuality to be an abhorrent perversion of the greatest magnitude to be so full of hate you have to drag the bis down with you! – Besides, sexuality is totally irrelevant anyway! A social construct to further maintain the gender bianary that has served us so well over the centuries – but thats a conversation on a completely different theme…

Stop fighting with your brothers and sisters, we are all on the same side!!

And as for the Ricky Martin 'news' – is it? I mean do I care? I don't care if he is gay, straight, bi, trans, inter, queer or whatever!! It's not like we have a right to know anyway… give the man some privacy!

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]]> By: Matthew - London http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58965 Matthew - London Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:50:22 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58965 what a load of tosh. i hate Pink News. If you read the full story in real news site it goes onto say that he has never been sexually attracted to a man! what a load of tosh. i hate Pink News. If you read the full story in real news site it goes onto say that he has never been sexually attracted to a man!

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]]> By: Ian Beath http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58951 Ian Beath Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:10:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58951 Hes gay.... hes just trying to keep his female fans happy also....come on rick the closet doors only half opened.....dont leave it half closed. Hes gay…. hes just trying to keep his female fans happy also….come on rick the closet doors only half opened…..dont leave it half closed.

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]]> By: zazava http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58949 zazava Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:31:33 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58949 What a lot of B...S...!!! It's entirely his business what he does in his bedroom and with whom ... and if any of us commentators had a life we wouldn't be here peeping, prying and promulgating the myth. It's his life we are commenting on because ours are so insipid!!! What a lot of B…S…!!! It's entirely his business what he does in his bedroom and with whom … and if any of us commentators had a life we wouldn't be here peeping, prying and promulgating the myth. It's his life we are commenting on because ours are so insipid!!!

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]]> By: RobN http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58933 RobN Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:24:12 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58933 Tony(20): (Well it's not the most unusual of names - try something even <i>slightly</i> unique. Tony(18):I don't get any of this 'double standard' you refer to. If someone, (male or female), says they are bisexual, I just snigger under my breathe and wait six months. It's just fence sitting, often due to other people's interest. If you are gay and say you are gay, you have burnt your bridges; but if you are gay and say you are <i>bisexual</i>, if you are seen with someone of the same sex, people just think "It's a phase" and dismiss it. Bisexuality is a myth. I'm not saying there aren't varying shades of grey, and very few people are totally gay or totally straight, but only the greedy or confused ones dabble, everyone falls one side of the fence or the other sooner or later. Tony(20): (Well it's not the most unusual of names – try something even slightly unique.

Tony(18):I don't get any of this 'double standard' you refer to.
If someone, (male or female), says they are bisexual, I just snigger under my breathe and wait six months. It's just fence sitting, often due to other people's interest. If you are gay and say you are gay, you have burnt your bridges; but if you are gay and say you are bisexual, if you are seen with someone of the same sex, people just think "It's a phase" and dismiss it.

Bisexuality is a myth. I'm not saying there aren't varying shades of grey, and very few people are totally gay or totally straight, but only the greedy or confused ones dabble, everyone falls one side of the fence or the other sooner or later.

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]]> By: tony http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58923 tony Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:31:06 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58923 Comment number 18 was not made by me. Is someone copying my name ot are there two tonys? Comment number 18 was not made by me. Is someone copying my name ot are there two tonys?

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]]> By: J Carter http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58892 J Carter Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:08:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58892 Gay as Christmas Knickers. Gay as Christmas Knickers.

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]]> By: tony http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58871 tony Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:22:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58871 why is it when a man said he is bisexual some of you always say no he gay but when a women said they are bisexual you guys aint got damn to say about it.... guess thats why women are more comfortable coming on to other women infront of so many men... and dont feel the need to hide that they like women too.... this double stardard is crazy!!! why is it when a man said he is bisexual some of you always say no he gay but when a women said they are bisexual you guys aint got damn to say about it…. guess thats why women are more comfortable coming on to other women infront of so many men… and dont feel the need to hide that they like women too…. this double stardard is crazy!!!

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]]> By: flapjack http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58839 flapjack Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:21:58 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58839 Come on folks... let's try and get through just one thread without it turning into a personal slanging match ;) And I have to agree with all those who said this is the least surprising outing since Liberace. We may not have said it out loud but I'll wager we were all thinking it. @ Simon - From my observations, bears go to the toilet at the Rembrandt Hotel on Canal St (amongst other places):D Come on folks… let's try and get through just one thread without it turning into a personal slanging match ;)
And I have to agree with all those who said this is the least surprising outing since Liberace. We may not have said it out loud but I'll wager we were all thinking it.
@ Simon – From my observations, bears go to the toilet at the Rembrandt Hotel on Canal St (amongst other places):D

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]]> By: Monkeychops http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58821 Monkeychops Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:33:55 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58821 Bri - Very superficial to judge someone on their name rather than the content of their writings. "Brian" conjures up visions of old northern men with paunches and flatcaps, but it's just a name. Hence it's you that shouldn't be taken seriously. Bri – Very superficial to judge someone on their name rather than the content of their writings. "Brian" conjures up visions of old northern men with paunches and flatcaps, but it's just a name. Hence it's you that shouldn't be taken seriously.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html/comment-page-1/#comment-58812 Brian Burton Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:49:33 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12896.html#comment-58812 MONKEYCHOPS, Don't be silly. My point is: How can you expect anyone on these threads to take seriously, views of someone called Monkeychops. The name is so illiterate and crass (nothing personal you understand!) and this is why I can't take your views seriously. MONKEYCHOPS,

Don't be silly. My point is: How can you expect anyone on these threads to take seriously, views of someone called Monkeychops. The name is so illiterate and crass (nothing personal you understand!) and this is why I can't take your views seriously.

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