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		<title>By: Michael.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having had second thoughts about my last comment, I will say that the Lithuanian authorities are wrong.  Ignoring the problem will not erase it.  But parents and other responsible people should promote the teaching of moral sexual behaviour.  Children, as they develop, should be taught that God created sex for procreation and that sexual intercourse should take place within God ordained marriage between a man and a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had second thoughts about my last comment, I will say that the Lithuanian authorities are wrong.  Ignoring the problem will not erase it.  But parents and other responsible people should promote the teaching of moral sexual behaviour.  Children, as they develop, should be taught that God created sex for procreation and that sexual intercourse should take place within God ordained marriage between a man and a woman.
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		<title>By: Michael.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viva Lithunania!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viva Lithunania!
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		<title>By: Michael.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does God think about all this?  His thoughts take precedence over those of erring mankind.  I&#039;m sure this comment will outrage the gay/lesbian lobby and their misguided allies.  Why not check it out before responding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does God think about all this?  His thoughts take precedence over those of erring mankind.  I'm sure this comment will outrage the gay/lesbian lobby and their misguided allies.  Why not check it out before responding?
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		<title>By: lithotomist</title>
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		<dc:creator>lithotomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, gjdagis, but I find it hard to accept that you could belong to any concept of &quot;we&quot; where &quot;we&quot; means gay people. This law in Lithuania is an offence against free speech; it bans INFORMATION about being gay, which is a long way away from &#039;promotion&#039;, what ever you imagine &#039;promotion&#039; to be. Your expressed view that minors should be protected from information about being gay reeks of homophobia, and frankly I think you&#039;d be hard pressed to produce anyone who &#039;became&#039; gay because as a child they&#039;d been given the information that gay people were ok, regular folks. You might find someone who grew up feeling ok about themselves, even a straight person who grew up unbigoted because they&#039;d had facts not prejudice, but the fantasy that being told that being gay is ok makes anyone &#039;turn&#039; gay is a nasty bit of 1950s bigotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, gjdagis, but I find it hard to accept that you could belong to any concept of "we" where "we" means gay people. This law in Lithuania is an offence against free speech; it bans INFORMATION about being gay, which is a long way away from 'promotion', what ever you imagine 'promotion' to be. Your expressed view that minors should be protected from information about being gay reeks of homophobia, and frankly I think you'd be hard pressed to produce anyone who 'became' gay because as a child they'd been given the information that gay people were ok, regular folks. You might find someone who grew up feeling ok about themselves, even a straight person who grew up unbigoted because they'd had facts not prejudice, but the fantasy that being told that being gay is ok makes anyone 'turn' gay is a nasty bit of 1950s bigotry.
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		<title>By: gjdagis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a very big difference between discrimination and promotion. If you read the Lithuanian law,it is clearly stated that there be no discrimination against people because of sexual orientation. What they don&#039;t desire is the PROMOTION of homosexuality and this applies only to minors! Perfectly reasonable. Any outrage against such a sensible and common sense law reeks of intolerance; we can be guilty of this as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very big difference between discrimination and promotion. If you read the Lithuanian law,it is clearly stated that there be no discrimination against people because of sexual orientation. What they don't desire is the PROMOTION of homosexuality and this applies only to minors! Perfectly reasonable. Any outrage against such a sensible and common sense law reeks of intolerance; we can be guilty of this as well.
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		<title>By: RobN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John K: Regard it any way you want. The man is still a c*nt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John K: Regard it any way you want. The man is still a c*nt.
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		<title>By: ImperIlia</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImperIlia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1990 and 1991 I marched carrying baltic nations&#039; flags, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania (not all of them at once, we switched who carries which as we proceeded in demonstrations) We were few, Soviet Union was large and our neighbor country, and we got our share of threats and harassment. But we got some publicity for the baltic nations&#039; independence causes as well. Publicity they sorely needed, in age before widespread use of Internet. Well, because of many reasons they eventually got themselves out of Soviet system. Yay for them. It then disheartened me to see them to drift into absolute opposite extreme of economy and administration, like not having any other thoughts than &quot;Soviet was bad for us. Therefore it&#039;s absolute opposite must be good for us&quot;. And now that their economy seems to be collapsed... it&#039;s time to go frustratedly and take out the anger on glbt people ? As one of them &quot;girlymen&quot; this makes me think was it such a good idea to stand for their Independence after all. They sure liked the help when they needed it. But is this what was gained ? Instead of Lithuanian resources feeding oppressive Kremlin, now it feeds smaller and local, but equally oppressive Lithuania ?  I honestly do not know what to think. should I remember that in WW1 there were many Patriotic Jews in Germany&#039;s armies, who later were &quot;not needed&quot; except as easy victims for people who felt small and failed (yes, I know the scale was then in millions) ? Or should I think that together we many kind of different peoples stood for Lithuania, and perhaps partly because the carefully thought risks we took, along with the circumstances, achieved nearly two decades of freedom of choice and self determination for Lithuanian peoples ? Perhaps Soviet era just halted many countries and areas (not all) under it&#039;s administrtation, to the point where they were just before, and now the still living Grand fathers from those times, as well as the generation of their upbringing, are trying to make those Ideals work again... for some it&#039;s only thing they know besides the Soviet Oppression: the older propaganda. Looking at the terms used by the Lithuanian parilament sources: &quot;self abuse&quot; and &quot;propaganda&quot;, it makes me feel like that old method of &quot;orwellian&quot; propaganda of few seemingly opposing sorts and nothing else available, has done it&#039;s trick to Lithuaninan Administration: It looks like they do not know that anything else than propaganda exists, scientific method and such are just words to them, and reality long forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1990 and 1991 I marched carrying baltic nations' flags, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania (not all of them at once, we switched who carries which as we proceeded in demonstrations) We were few, Soviet Union was large and our neighbor country, and we got our share of threats and harassment. But we got some publicity for the baltic nations' independence causes as well. Publicity they sorely needed, in age before widespread use of Internet. Well, because of many reasons they eventually got themselves out of Soviet system. Yay for them. It then disheartened me to see them to drift into absolute opposite extreme of economy and administration, like not having any other thoughts than "Soviet was bad for us. Therefore it's absolute opposite must be good for us". And now that their economy seems to be collapsed&#8230; it's time to go frustratedly and take out the anger on glbt people ? As one of them "girlymen" this makes me think was it such a good idea to stand for their Independence after all. They sure liked the help when they needed it. But is this what was gained ? Instead of Lithuanian resources feeding oppressive Kremlin, now it feeds smaller and local, but equally oppressive Lithuania ?  I honestly do not know what to think. should I remember that in WW1 there were many Patriotic Jews in Germany's armies, who later were "not needed" except as easy victims for people who felt small and failed (yes, I know the scale was then in millions) ? Or should I think that together we many kind of different peoples stood for Lithuania, and perhaps partly because the carefully thought risks we took, along with the circumstances, achieved nearly two decades of freedom of choice and self determination for Lithuanian peoples ? Perhaps Soviet era just halted many countries and areas (not all) under it's administrtation, to the point where they were just before, and now the still living Grand fathers from those times, as well as the generation of their upbringing, are trying to make those Ideals work again&#8230; for some it's only thing they know besides the Soviet Oppression: the older propaganda. Looking at the terms used by the Lithuanian parilament sources: "self abuse" and "propaganda", it makes me feel like that old method of "orwellian" propaganda of few seemingly opposing sorts and nothing else available, has done it's trick to Lithuaninan Administration: It looks like they do not know that anything else than propaganda exists, scientific method and such are just words to them, and reality long forgotten.
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		<title>By: John K</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RobN wrote
&quot;Unless there isn&#039;t actually such a party as &quot;Rabidly Lefty Whinging Faggots&quot; party. Maybe you should stand for election.&quot;

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When you refer to Simon Murphy as a &quot;faggot&quot;
You have not only stepped over the mark into the bounds of abuse, I regards this as homophobic harrasment of Simon Murphy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RobN wrote<br />
"Unless there isn't actually such a party as "Rabidly Lefty Whinging Faggots" party. Maybe you should stand for election."</p>
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<p>When you refer to Simon Murphy as a "faggot"<br />
You have not only stepped over the mark into the bounds of abuse, I regards this as homophobic harrasment of Simon Murphy.
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		<title>By: RobN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon: Ohhhh. It&#039;s UKIP/BNP now is it? I&#039;m sorry, I didn&#039;t realise there had been an alliance the last time I checked. Incidentally, I am not a &quot;supporter&quot; of any party, I just found UKIP closest to my own thinking. Maybe you should try. Unless there isn&#039;t actually such a party as &quot;Rabidly Lefty Whinging Faggots&quot; party. Maybe you should stand for election. 

I may also point out that section 28 as (an admittedly hastily drawn-up and badly worded) reaction to the loony left&#039;s approach on flooding schools with pro-gay literature. Even once Labour did come into power, it took six years and an EU slap on the wrist to get them to rescind it, so a) don&#039;t blame Tories for all this. and b) we seriously don&#039;t need a bunch of fucking Belgians to tell us how to run our country at the totally obscene price tag of £40 MILLION a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon: Ohhhh. It's UKIP/BNP now is it? I'm sorry, I didn't realise there had been an alliance the last time I checked. Incidentally, I am not a "supporter" of any party, I just found UKIP closest to my own thinking. Maybe you should try. Unless there isn't actually such a party as "Rabidly Lefty Whinging Faggots" party. Maybe you should stand for election. </p>
<p>I may also point out that section 28 as (an admittedly hastily drawn-up and badly worded) reaction to the loony left's approach on flooding schools with pro-gay literature. Even once Labour did come into power, it took six years and an EU slap on the wrist to get them to rescind it, so a) don't blame Tories for all this. and b) we seriously don't need a bunch of fucking Belgians to tell us how to run our country at the totally obscene price tag of £40 MILLION a day.
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Simon I have sent a petition and an email to the appropriate people in Europe via your information. I would also like to thank you for the information you posted as I have been trying for some time to find the right channels to go through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Simon I have sent a petition and an email to the appropriate people in Europe via your information. I would also like to thank you for the information you posted as I have been trying for some time to find the right channels to go through.
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Email the Council of Europe as well as they are in charge of the Human Rights laws:

To:  bureau.paris@coe.int; bureau.bruxelles@coe.int 

Dear Council of Europe,
 
Please confirm what action the Council of Europe will be taking against Lithuania for the new facist law currently under discussion in that country?
 
Lithuania&#039;s parliament has given final approval to a bill banning information on homosexuality in schools or in media accessible by young people. The law, titled &#039;Law on the Protection of Minors against the Detrimental Effect of Public Information&#039;, includes &quot;the propaganda of homosexuality [or] bisexuality&quot; as a detrimental factor on young people.
 
This law will institutionalise homophobia, violate freedom of speech and harm children. It puts homosexuality in the same category as showing images of dead or mutilated bodies and will even ban discussion of homophobic bullying.
 
The bill will put Lithuania in breach of international and European human rights legislation.
This legislation is homophobic discrimination. As such, it clearly violates the European Convention on Human Rights. Lithuania has signed up to this humanitarian declarations but it is now defying them. 
 
As such all financial aid to Lithuania must be suspended and they must face suspension from the EU until they reject this law. This legislation will enshrine facist extremism into Lithuanian law. 
 
What is the Council of Europe doing to address this dangerous development.
 
Yours sincerely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Email the Council of Europe as well as they are in charge of the Human Rights laws:</p>
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<p>Dear Council of Europe,</p>
<p>Please confirm what action the Council of Europe will be taking against Lithuania for the new facist law currently under discussion in that country?</p>
<p>Lithuania's parliament has given final approval to a bill banning information on homosexuality in schools or in media accessible by young people. The law, titled 'Law on the Protection of Minors against the Detrimental Effect of Public Information', includes "the propaganda of homosexuality [or] bisexuality" as a detrimental factor on young people.</p>
<p>This law will institutionalise homophobia, violate freedom of speech and harm children. It puts homosexuality in the same category as showing images of dead or mutilated bodies and will even ban discussion of homophobic bullying.</p>
<p>The bill will put Lithuania in breach of international and European human rights legislation.<br />
This legislation is homophobic discrimination. As such, it clearly violates the European Convention on Human Rights. Lithuania has signed up to this humanitarian declarations but it is now defying them. </p>
<p>As such all financial aid to Lithuania must be suspended and they must face suspension from the EU until they reject this law. This legislation will enshrine facist extremism into Lithuanian law. </p>
<p>What is the Council of Europe doing to address this dangerous development.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely
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		<title>By: Monkeychops</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkeychops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lez - Agree on the open to discussion part, but why there hasn&#039;t been much about it at EU level I&#039;m not sure. It may be a Member State competence, but surely the Council of Europe (though not an EU institution) should be making more of a push for clarification and justification for such a long period of detention? Not sure what Spain&#039;s rules on ETA are and whether these have been criticised by the CoE. Anyone know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lez &#8211; Agree on the open to discussion part, but why there hasn't been much about it at EU level I'm not sure. It may be a Member State competence, but surely the Council of Europe (though not an EU institution) should be making more of a push for clarification and justification for such a long period of detention? Not sure what Spain's rules on ETA are and whether these have been criticised by the CoE. Anyone know?
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		<title>By: Lezabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lezabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a lesbian/bisexual (I don&#039;t know what she is really) Lithuanian friend who has lived here for 7 years. I wonder how she feels about it?

Well done Simon Murphy for being so pro-active. You have my ultimate respect  

However, we must remember that Lithuania (and other Eastern bloc/Slavic countries) are former satellite states of the U.S.S.R. Whatever front they put on, it is undeniable that these countries, ravaged by Soviet oppression and Orthodox Christianity, are not as socially advanced as we are. So this is no surprise. (Interesting to note, that in WW2 the Lithuanian version of the schutzstaffel &#039;SS&#039; were even more brutal, and even more willing to round up Jews than any other Nazi-occupied nation. And to think many from that generation are still living and will have taught the younger generations their same prejudices.)

Monkeychops-

&quot;Though if it comes to human rights abuses, the UK should be kicked out of the EU for its laws on detaining suspected terrorists.&quot;

That&#039;s open to discussion. I see what you mean but a &#039;terrorist&#039; in our statutes is not defined as &#039;a Muslim, an Arab, a Pakistani&#039; or anything discriminatory like that; it can mean anyone from an animal rights activist,  to the IRA. Lithuania&#039;s law is SPECIFICALLY aimed at homosexuals, a recognised minority; hence it is discrimination and different to our terror laws</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lesbian/bisexual (I don't know what she is really) Lithuanian friend who has lived here for 7 years. I wonder how she feels about it?</p>
<p>Well done Simon Murphy for being so pro-active. You have my ultimate respect  </p>
<p>However, we must remember that Lithuania (and other Eastern bloc/Slavic countries) are former satellite states of the U.S.S.R. Whatever front they put on, it is undeniable that these countries, ravaged by Soviet oppression and Orthodox Christianity, are not as socially advanced as we are. So this is no surprise. (Interesting to note, that in WW2 the Lithuanian version of the schutzstaffel 'SS' were even more brutal, and even more willing to round up Jews than any other Nazi-occupied nation. And to think many from that generation are still living and will have taught the younger generations their same prejudices.)</p>
<p>Monkeychops-</p>
<p>"Though if it comes to human rights abuses, the UK should be kicked out of the EU for its laws on detaining suspected terrorists."</p>
<p>That's open to discussion. I see what you mean but a 'terrorist' in our statutes is not defined as 'a Muslim, an Arab, a Pakistani' or anything discriminatory like that; it can mean anyone from an animal rights activist,  to the IRA. Lithuania's law is SPECIFICALLY aimed at homosexuals, a recognised minority; hence it is discrimination and different to our terror laws
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		<title>By: Lezabella</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The claws, are out!    :0</description>
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27: RobN - you appear to be both illiterate as well as stupid. 

Check out his statement:

&quot;This kind of thing just goes to show what a useless, ineffective and toothless dinosaur the EU is.&quot;

Now Rob. As you know Britain got a similarly vicious law in the 1980&#039;s called Section 28. That was before the EU banned discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation (this happened in the mid 1990&#039;s). 

Lithuania will be forced to change this homophobic law BECAUSE of the EU. But this will involve a court case so it will not happen overnight.

You obviously don&#039;t let common sense or facts stand in the way of your instinctive xenophobia. You are after all a supporter of the neo-facist UKIP/BNP. Both UKIP and the BNP are homophobic, extreme right-wing parties. Are you going against your party politics byv opposing homophobia. Or is it simply that your xenophobia is greater than your homophobia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27: RobN &#8211; you appear to be both illiterate as well as stupid. </p>
<p>Check out his statement:</p>
<p>"This kind of thing just goes to show what a useless, ineffective and toothless dinosaur the EU is."</p>
<p>Now Rob. As you know Britain got a similarly vicious law in the 1980's called Section 28. That was before the EU banned discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation (this happened in the mid 1990's). </p>
<p>Lithuania will be forced to change this homophobic law BECAUSE of the EU. But this will involve a court case so it will not happen overnight.</p>
<p>You obviously don't let common sense or facts stand in the way of your instinctive xenophobia. You are after all a supporter of the neo-facist UKIP/BNP. Both UKIP and the BNP are homophobic, extreme right-wing parties. Are you going against your party politics byv opposing homophobia. Or is it simply that your xenophobia is greater than your homophobia.
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		<title>By: RobN</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of thing just goes to show what a useless, ineffective and toothless dinosaur the EU is. It sucks money from every direction, but does absolutely nothing to enforce it&#039;s power, because the people that run it never agree to anything except that they should have huge wage packets and expenses. This is just another United Nations for the 21st century.

We should get the hell out while we still can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of thing just goes to show what a useless, ineffective and toothless dinosaur the EU is. It sucks money from every direction, but does absolutely nothing to enforce it's power, because the people that run it never agree to anything except that they should have huge wage packets and expenses. This is just another United Nations for the 21st century.</p>
<p>We should get the hell out while we still can.
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		<title>By: Lezabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lezabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a lesbian/bisexual (I don&#039;t know what she is really) Lithuanian friend who has lived here for 7 years. I wonder how she feels about it?

Well done Simon Murphy for being so pro-active. You have my ultimate respect  :)

However, we must remember that Lithuania (and other Eastern bloc/Slavic countries) are former satellite states of the U.S.S.R. Whatever front they put on, it is undeniable that these countries, ravaged by Soviet oppression and Orthodox Christianity, are not as socially advanced as we are.  So this is no surprise. (Interesting to note, that in WW2 the Lithuanian version of the  schutzstaffel &#039;SS&#039; were even more brutal, and even more willing to round up Jews than any other Nazi-occupied  nation. And to think many from that generation are still living and will have taught the younger generations their same prejudices.)

Monkeychops-

&quot;Though if it comes to human rights abuses, the UK should be kicked out of the EU for its laws on detaining suspected terrorists.&quot;

That&#039;s open to discussion. I see what you mean but a &#039;terrorist&#039; in our statutes is not defined as &#039;a Muslim, an Arab, a Pakistani&#039; or anything discriminatory like that; it can mean anyone from an animal rights activist, to the IRA. Lithuania&#039;s law is SPECIFICALLY aimed at homosexuals, a recognised minority; hence it is discrimination and different to our terror laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lesbian/bisexual (I don't know what she is really) Lithuanian friend who has lived here for 7 years. I wonder how she feels about it?</p>
<p>Well done Simon Murphy for being so pro-active. You have my ultimate respect  <img src='http://www.pinknews.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, we must remember that Lithuania (and other Eastern bloc/Slavic countries) are former satellite states of the U.S.S.R. Whatever front they put on, it is undeniable that these countries, ravaged by Soviet oppression and Orthodox Christianity, are not as socially advanced as we are.  So this is no surprise. (Interesting to note, that in WW2 the Lithuanian version of the  schutzstaffel 'SS' were even more brutal, and even more willing to round up Jews than any other Nazi-occupied  nation. And to think many from that generation are still living and will have taught the younger generations their same prejudices.)</p>
<p>Monkeychops-</p>
<p>"Though if it comes to human rights abuses, the UK should be kicked out of the EU for its laws on detaining suspected terrorists."</p>
<p>That's open to discussion. I see what you mean but a 'terrorist' in our statutes is not defined as 'a Muslim, an Arab, a Pakistani' or anything discriminatory like that; it can mean anyone from an animal rights activist, to the IRA. Lithuania's law is SPECIFICALLY aimed at homosexuals, a recognised minority; hence it is discrimination and different to our terror laws.
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Needs to be remembered that even if this does become law gay groups will challenge the law (possibly first in the Lithuanian courts ) ulimately in the European court of Human Rights and the gay groups will eventually win. This would take a long time however. The court case would take about 5 years though during which time this nasty law will be enforced. 

If Lithuania realises that there will be immediate financial consequences then they may think twice about enacting this. The Lithuanian economy is down the toilet at the moment and this law sounds like typically, nasty and populist where the government is trying to scapegoat the gays to divert attention from the disastrous economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needs to be remembered that even if this does become law gay groups will challenge the law (possibly first in the Lithuanian courts ) ulimately in the European court of Human Rights and the gay groups will eventually win. This would take a long time however. The court case would take about 5 years though during which time this nasty law will be enforced. </p>
<p>If Lithuania realises that there will be immediate financial consequences then they may think twice about enacting this. The Lithuanian economy is down the toilet at the moment and this law sounds like typically, nasty and populist where the government is trying to scapegoat the gays to divert attention from the disastrous economy.
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		<title>By: Christina Engela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Engela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me get this straight (sorry for the pun) - it is an undeniable fact that many of these students in Lithuanian schools will be gay or transgender - but despite this, they will be prevented from receiving information and education to suit them - but force-fed heterosexist-oriented propaganda instead?

And these people have the cheek to call this &quot;protecting&quot; the youth. Against what? From being what they already are? From getting an actual education? What is this - we&#039;ll send you to school - but just you dare learn anything there and see what happens!

Bigots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight (sorry for the pun) &#8211; it is an undeniable fact that many of these students in Lithuanian schools will be gay or transgender &#8211; but despite this, they will be prevented from receiving information and education to suit them &#8211; but force-fed heterosexist-oriented propaganda instead?</p>
<p>And these people have the cheek to call this "protecting" the youth. Against what? From being what they already are? From getting an actual education? What is this &#8211; we'll send you to school &#8211; but just you dare learn anything there and see what happens!</p>
<p>Bigots!
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		<title>By: AndySam</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On every purchase I make I pay something like 15% VAT ... why should my taxes be used to support a regime which flouts European norms of decent and acceptable behaviour?

Lithuania should be &#039;suspended&#039; from ALL European Union aid from the date of this disgraceful legislation. If they want to belong to the &#039;club&#039; AND accept the benefits - they can damned well abide by the rules, regulations and obligations!!</description>
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<p>Lithuania should be 'suspended' from ALL European Union aid from the date of this disgraceful legislation. If they want to belong to the 'club' AND accept the benefits &#8211; they can damned well abide by the rules, regulations and obligations!!
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