Comments on: PinkNews.co.uk poll: Tories top pick for gay voters, Greens top for EU election

By: Sister Mary Clarence

Sister Mary Clarence — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:12:18 +0000

Mmmm, that poll was money well spent – 24 seats to the Tories, but the Greens gnashing right on their heals, just behind UKIP, Labour and the LibDems, with an incredible two MEPS – dear God its really been their night (….not)

Who votes in these poles for Christsake?????

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By: Sister Mary Clarence

Sister Mary Clarence — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:49:38 +0000

oops – 'couldn't go to work'

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By: Sister Mary Clarence

Sister Mary Clarence — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:26:47 +0000

Okay, so a few people can remember Thatcher – either I'm getting old, or …. well, I'm getting old.

Cast your minds back pre-Thatcher to the shit-hole this country was before she got elected. 25% inflation, power cuts, either everybody on strike of sitting at home because they could work as a result of the power cuts. Rubbish piles in mountains in the streets, begging to the IMF for money to keep the country solvent.

Some of you really have no idea whatsoever – oh and I don't remember much in the way of gay rights at the time either come to thing of it.

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By: vulpus_rex

vulpus_rex — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:02:54 +0000

Hurrah, Hurrah – Brown is being CRUCIFIED in the local election results.

Massvie swings from Labour to Tory have handed the Tories counties like Derbyshire – Labour for the last 30 years, Labour to the core until the Brown terror was let lose and destroyed our economy.

I'm so happy this man is gonig to be anhilated at the next general election!

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By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:57:56 +0000

I can still remember Thatcher vividly. etc etc. Seems to me all Labourites can troll out is the Thatcher years – hardly a historically typical tory government!

There are other issues, and how much would labour have done without the EU…probably not much.

anyway, I voted tory yesterday just to piss you labourites right off…it felt soooo good!

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By: Eddy

Eddy — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:51:48 +0000

Marcy and others, yes, isn't it extraordinary. The gnashing teeth of the Tory dogs are managing to erase from people's memories all memory of the reality of Tories. And gays who are willing to believe that they will EVER be genuinely accepted by the Queen-loving Bishop-loving public-school traditional backbone-establishment of this country are truly being sucked in. One bit of evidence of this crazy woolly-thinking appears in the Peter Tatchell honours-thread where several gay readers applaud his honour and call on the government to give him a Queen's Honour, such as Knighthood! They simply are unaware that the blue-blooded methods of royal establishment "bribes" (which are what Queens' Honours actually are) are incompatible with radical progression. Peter knows that to accept such a bribe from the establishment would be to allow himself to be bought into conformity and gagged silence.

The political ignorance of many gay men and women is appalling, and it is sad to see comments in support of establishment-loving infiltrators on this website.

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By: Marcy

Marcy — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:14:56 +0000

I cannot believe people are falling for the Tories. I can only assume that the majority of this 39% who back them are younger people who were not old enough to remember the Tory party's hateful legislation in the past. A word of warning to the not-so-wise: don't kid yourself that the Tories will honour the growing equality we have gained in recent years. If they return to power it will only be a matter of time before they start allowing exemptions to the Equality Act, and even creating a newer, covert version of Section 28. They absolutely cannot be trusted and we will all be second class citizens again when we are so near to be treated with respect and equality.

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By: robert

robert — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:49:16 +0000

I've just voted conservative today. As I think we can do more to promote and preserve gay rights from within the party that we would otherwise if we chose to ignore it. The Tories are not ideal but it's not good to have a single party democracy dominated by Labour.

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By: Sister Mary Clarence

Sister Mary Clarence — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:58:39 +0000

Lezabella, check the stats, Labour have lost the gay vote (along with the BME vote). Polling is also showing they've lost the vote on the council estates as well. All in all they are f*cked. Outnumbered? Its 2009, not 1999 – have you lost a decade?

As for you seeing it correctly, clearly you're not seeing even that correctly.

I am getting so hacked off with all this crap that people keep trotting out about the fantastic benefits Labour have provided us with. They have introduced EU legislation that has been forced on them.

Please read the Treaty of Amsterdam, the European Convention on Human Rights – these are the two main pieces of legislation that have bought us equality.

Gays in the military – google the European Court ruling FORCING the Labour government to cease discriminating.

Continuing extradition of gays to homophobic regimes where they may face torture and death – blimey, government not (yet) been forced by the European Court to cease doing so.

It is sheer laziness that people do not avail themselves of the facts and just rely on a few tabloid headlines.

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By: Lezabella

Lezabella — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:45:11 +0000

Labour trolls? Why because people have an opinion? And their opinion happens to outnumber, or have evidence outweighing, yours???

"No better than the religious twats" – Well if I see correctly, you're here commenting just as much as anyone else only you're in favour of the Conservatives; hence by your analogy, you're a twat too!

So infantile. Give your head a wobble.

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By: C

Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:13:34 +0000

You're SO right RobN. What's the fuss about? If anything we're one step closer to equality, now that we're just as stupid, insular and naïve in our voting habits as the rest of the country! Yay!
Seriously though, I implore you, enjoy the museums, hospitals and galleries while they're still free. And don't forget to say goodbye to the EU before it disappears from our lives under the unfounded prejudice of white-collar jingoists and we become an even more conceited and detached nation than we apparently are today.

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By: RobN

RobN — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:29:08 +0000

One wonders what would happen on here to all the whinging socialists if they came fourth in the EU election, went into total meltdown and Parliament called a general election. Where would these right-on lefties have to turn? Here's hoping these really are the death throes of the most despicable, corrupt, inept and hypocritical government and party this country has ever known.
(Oh, but they were nice to the pooftahs, so that's alright then.)

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By: RobN

RobN — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:19:54 +0000

Sister Mary: Do it for your own sake, not Christ's. I mean, what did he ever do for us?

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By: Sister Mary Clarence

Sister Mary Clarence — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:40:43 +0000

How all you Labour party trolls can keep banging on about everything Labour has done for us, when we have the EU to thank for it is just plain ignorant – you're no better that the brainwashed religious twats that come on here telling us we are devil spawn.

For Christ's sake educate yourselves.

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By: vulpus_rex

vulpus_rex — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:01:43 +0000

Ridiculous Adrian yes, but hardly untypical of the desparate claims of labour supporters.

As support for the Tories increase their bleating and hysteria increases exponentially.

The meltdown in our financial systems was caused by one person and one person only – Gordon Brown.

Bankers are a convenient scapegoat for the ill-informed and those who are desperate to absolve the Labour party of their financial madness.

Even his own cabinet ministers are deserting Brown in droves, they know the truth about this mad man as they deal with him daily.

The Labour party hold no majority on gay rights and trying to claim
it repeatedly on here won't actually make it true in the real world.

A vote for Labour tomorrow is a vote for incompetence, deceit, dishonesty, fraud (endless list of pejorative adjectives)…

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By: AdrianT

AdrianT — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:32:57 +0000

Really, Pete, comparing the Tories with the BNP is absolutely ridiculous.

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By: Pete

Pete — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:23:21 +0000

Remember it is the bankers and financiers who have screwed up the economy with their total lack of integrity and ethics. And then remember those rich cunts are all Tories. Bleed your anger on them, on the Tories, and NOT on the party that has done more for gay rights in the history of Great Britain than any other party.

Vote Labour or LibDem or Green. But do NOT vote for those stinking privileged Tories. They are the acceptable face of a mentality that is hardly any different from the BNP.

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By: Eddy

Eddy — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:14:52 +0000

Well said, MCC. I endorse absolutely everything you have said:

What short memories readers of Pink News – 39% plan to vote Tory. Madness. A party that resisted every single attempt to remove discrimination against gay people.

David Cameron consitently voted against gay rights until a sudden volt face when attempting to 'de-contaminate' the Tory brand.

God forbid the Tories win the next election and influential individuals will be Melanie Phillips, Simon Heffer and the other homophobes who still populate rank and file of the party.

From 1967 onwards, gay people owe every single significant advance in gay rights to the Labour Party, the only party that has delivered equality and fought prejudice.

Forget this at your peril.
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By: RobN

RobN — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:15:52 +0000

The only way we are going to change this countries permanent stalemate is to get out of the EU. For that reason, don't vote for Labour, Conservative, LibDem or Green. They are all pro Europe to a greater or lesser degree.

I suggest UKIP, Libertas or if you are English, maybe the English Democrats.

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By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:15:47 +0000

If only people would vote Lib dem we might actually break this chain of the two party tyranny once and for all!!!

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