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I just think it's important to keep sight of the big picture, of exactly why fundamentalist Islam gives us such hassle and how any other religion could do (and frequently does) the same.

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Way to go!

You're right about moderate muslims not speaking up. Makes me wonder.

It may take three generations to de-program a muslim in favour of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

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Oh, and by he way, isn't the silence just deafening from those so-called moderate muslims condemming the comments from the cleric.

The reality is, the koran is very clear on its hatred of gay people, and the barbaric treatment they should recieve. And yet, governments around the world roll over and let their cultures be f***ed by this disgusting superstitious nonsense.

Some might think that's a bit strong, but I'm going to keep making similar comments until Islam and the supposedly 'peace loving' muslims of the world publicly state they have no problem with people like me.

I have no problem with anyone, but when people start spouting hatred against me, I fight back.

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How many times have I thought the same thing about pointed hats, liturgical lace and an endless row of tiny buttons from the throat to the ground, the gold threads, the tassels, tassels and more tassels.

Why not just wear jeans and a T-shirt and try relating normally. What's with these outfits, anyway? Something about symbolism? Jeans and a T-shirt are not symbolic?

Years ago, when I was living in one of Canada's 'Big Apples', Montréal, I had a number of good friends who were borderline jewish. When one of them, a guy named Schmeltzer, moved away from home into his own apartment close to where I was living, Momma came around to inspect the place.

When she had seen every nook and cranny, she took a mezzuzah out of her handbag, complete with tiny nails and a little hammer and nailed it onto the door frame.

I can still see Sydney rolling his eyes when Momma said: Kiss mezzuzah. And I can still see Sydney giving mezzuzah a casual tap on his way out.

I like laided-back muslims and christians in the same way, just as I like laid-back agnostics, atheists and whatever.

It's the guys like this radical cleric that are to be found in every religion that have the mental illness, the ignorance and arrogance to believe they know it all, got it straight from the mouth of the allmighty, etc.

There's no reasoning with them. How they can keep a straight face and a clear conscience after actually killing someone is beyond me.

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Interesting synthesis, informative too.

Also, I appreciate receiving an insight into your world view.

Your last sentence is quite a clincher. Nice job.

Whipped cream anyone? Just joshing…

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Unless I've misunderstood history, I think this is pretty much how the whole current Muslim fundamentalism situation came about. Nearly a thousand years ago, the feral, barbaric, dogmatic Christians attacked the Muslim countries, home to science and enlightenment. As people do in times of great fear, the Muslim populace turned from their scholarly leaders to embrace the soothing promises of the more radical imams.

Europe eventually grew prosperous, thanks in no small part to its cruel subjugation of the rest of the world, and science and understanding were finally able to flourish there. For most of the trodden upon Muslim nations, reason never recovered, and what was taken away from them would eventually come back to haunt the rest of the world.

It's not specific religions that are a danger to us, but the dogmatic controlling influence of organised religion in all its guises. Islam is just the flavour of the week (or century) – it's not any worse than the other Abrahamic religions, it's just that our current global situation means it's Islam's turn to play the "bad guy". Merely being a Muslim doesn't make you any more likely to be a maniacal terrorist than being Christian does. I am a sceptic and an atheist, but I still have wonderfully accepting religious friends – both Christian and Muslim (and none of them are moronic enough to think that telling people who are different to you how they should be living their lives is a "right"). The only reason a disproportionately large amount of bigoted radicals are Muslim is because a disproportionately large amount of downtrodden countries are Muslim.

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One last ramble and then I'll shuffle off and gedda life.

Why is it that these religious loo-looz all power-dress?

It right piddles me off.

What is it with the big black hats on Orthodox Jewish heads; all the more ridiculous when on some little babby's head who is two minutes off his Bar Mitzvah.
My Yiddisher great-grandfather is in a photo with his huge daft black hat but that was taken in 1800 and something.

What is it with this al-Sadr, and his ilk ,with that huge black doughnut on his bonce, like mistletoe up a tree?

And the Christians don't get off.

The huge, pointy hats, be-jewelled, gold brocaded…the crimson this, the purple that; costing thousands.

All of it meant to impress.
All show.

All – 'I am so much better than you, ya raggedy pezzunt!'
All from a different, pre-1914, pre-1939 age.
Deference.
Servility.
Know your place.
And so is this tirade from a different age…."BE SILENT! BE SILENT!! BE SILENT!!!" (Father John OWEN, Cardiff, Big Question BBC)

Disgrace.
I might listen to what they had to say if they wore a business suit and tie and dumped the bling.
I really would listen if we could meet, just as plain ordinary humming-beans, in Thailand, in 100 degrees, all in flip-flops and shorts and bare chests, Pepsi at the ready.

But all that marble and lace, flowing gold capes, tall hats and tat?

Gone to get a life.

K

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BAYBEE!!
I was wondering where you'd wented..nice to have some vinegar on me chips now you're back.
And haven't you got a point!

"Ramble-a-thon"..!

Indeed it can be at times!

The Manc and the Acadian!
Never mind.
Us days is numbered; us ramblings.
It'll be 'pertinent' or 'shut it!' from next week and probably rightly so!
Benny's comin' to edit us OUT.
No! Not 'Vatican' Benny, silly! …. EDITOR BENNY!
Ooops there I go again.. shoutin' – with me kapikals.
So ta-ta..!
'Amuse-toi bien!'
(I hope that translates as 'have a good time'.
I have a sneaky feeling it might mean.."Go pl.. )

Oh never mind!
k

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Touché ! ! ! Ha!

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It's a tune that I certainly wouln't sing to this cleric, but it was by CHICAGO.

I may be getting two of their hits mixed up, after all me marbles are all over the place (!), but the words 'Please don't go' may be found in my favorite CHICAGO tune from the late 60's that goes:

'If you leave me now, you'll take away the best part of me;
Oh-wo-wo-o, no, baby please don't go-o;
A love like ours is really hard to find,
How can we end it all this way… '

Wow, those were the days when every word of the lyrics was audible and so meaningful. Swo-o-o-n-n-n…

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'CHICAGO'…?
1982..?

Super group…great toon..sorry, Mr. C, Editor, sir..

If this cleric is the same as was in the YOUTUBE clipping which someone posted a while back, well, he sure wasn't getting folks together for a game of bingo.
I do not know what he was ranting on about in that clip of his sermon, I do not speak Arabic, maybe the 'place' of women..?
K

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Though how else does he think it would be "eradicated"?

He's either lying or incredibly naive.

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The right thing to do would be to give gay Iraqis asylum. As well as all the Iraqis who helped our troops and now are in danger because of it.

Unfortunately that is NOT going to happen. Our government is too full of people who are perfectly happy with others suffering for the consequences of the US government's actions.

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Gadzooks, pour me a cup of that tea ! ! !

KEITH (14, 16)

If you dare drop out of PinkNews comments, I'll take the first trans-Atlantic flight and go get you myself, drag you kicking and screaming to your computer…. Better yet, I'll conjure up (you did call me the Acadian Wizard!) the ghost of Christmas past and then you'll be sorry, you giant varmint.

We loves you, hasn't anyone ever told you that ! !

Please don't go.

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