Comments on: Obama holding 'preliminary talks' on repealing military gay ban http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:53:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: AdrianT http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52583 AdrianT Tue, 12 May 2009 11:16:26 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52583 Yes - even if they have the economy to focus on, there's no need to talk about conducting 'studies', or to push the idea of 'kicking that one down the road a bit'. It really angers the LGBT service people, to be let down like this, when only 4 months ago, Obama was being unequivocal about DADT's repeal. People are right to be pissed off, these guys are laying their lives on the line and being treated like cattle. It's a disgrace, and if any LGBT legislation should have had priority, it should have been this one. Yes – even if they have the economy to focus on, there's no need to talk about conducting 'studies', or to push the idea of 'kicking that one down the road a bit'. It really angers the LGBT service people, to be let down like this, when only 4 months ago, Obama was being unequivocal about DADT's repeal. People are right to be pissed off, these guys are laying their lives on the line and being treated like cattle. It's a disgrace, and if any LGBT legislation should have had priority, it should have been this one.

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]]> By: Mihangel apYrs http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52575 Mihangel apYrs Tue, 12 May 2009 09:52:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52575 @Jay eliminating injustice and inequality is not a luxury that we can get later. Firstly, he need merely detail to the defence secretary "do it", so it does not take his valuable time. Secondly, what's so complex: "DADT will be abolished now. Training, guidance as necessary will be provided. Troops and officers will deal with their gay/lesbian compatriots in exactly the same way as they deal with the gay/lesbian soldiers in the NATO alliance" @Jay
eliminating injustice and inequality is not a luxury that we can get later.

Firstly, he need merely detail to the defence secretary "do it", so it does not take his valuable time.

Secondly, what's so complex: "DADT will be abolished now. Training, guidance as necessary will be provided. Troops and officers will deal with their gay/lesbian compatriots in exactly the same way as they deal with the gay/lesbian soldiers in the NATO alliance"

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]]> By: Jay http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52552 Jay Tue, 12 May 2009 02:25:22 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52552 First off people gain some prospective. Just over three months into his term and you want the world to be fixed. Second it is a complicated issue, it can't be overturn with a snap of a finger. for the now US residents or citizens unless you have studied the U.S. government in college and school, how do know what it entails to overturn the ban. Just because you have fingers to type doesn't mean you have a clue to what your typing about. I would rather have the economy fixed and his attention on that than have him distracted with this stupid ban on gays in the military. When the economy is better he can move his attention to other matters. First off people gain some prospective. Just over three months into his term and you want the world to be fixed. Second it is a complicated issue, it can't be overturn with a snap of a finger. for the now US residents or citizens unless you have studied the U.S. government in college and school, how do know what it entails to overturn the ban. Just because you have fingers to type doesn't mean you have a clue to what your typing about.

I would rather have the economy fixed and his attention on that than have him distracted with this stupid ban on gays in the military. When the economy is better he can move his attention to other matters.

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52486 Simon Murphy Mon, 11 May 2009 18:00:13 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52486 Sammy - people are not being unfair for criticising Obama. He made a clear pledge that he would repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell if he was elected. Now he is claiming it might never happen. That is unacceptable. Sammy – people are not being unfair for criticising Obama. He made a clear pledge that he would repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell if he was elected. Now he is claiming it might never happen. That is unacceptable.

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]]> By: MarkD http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52458 MarkD Mon, 11 May 2009 16:08:57 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52458 The reason the military will never repeal DADT is because they are a christian evangelical organization out to spread their version of the will of their God. The reason the military will never repeal DADT is because they are a christian evangelical organization out to spread their version of the will of their God.

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]]> By: Sammy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52454 Sammy Mon, 11 May 2009 16:01:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52454 I think some people are being a little unfair to Obama. Give him some time to do what is clear to many as needing to be done. It is important that he goes about this in the best way possible to ensure that there isn't a backlash against our community. The end of segragation in the army took years to fully repeal, so I think we really need to just be patient with this issue and Obama. I have faith in him and I think he will stand behind our rights. I think some people are being a little unfair to Obama. Give him some time to do what is clear to many as needing to be done. It is important that he goes about this in the best way possible to ensure that there isn't a backlash against our community. The end of segragation in the army took years to fully repeal, so I think we really need to just be patient with this issue and Obama. I have faith in him and I think he will stand behind our rights.

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]]> By: Isa Kocher http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52440 Isa Kocher Mon, 11 May 2009 15:30:56 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52440 as an old queer, you would think i'd have gotten used to being used by straight guys when they needed you and thrown under the bus when they didn't but it still hurts. he's a heterosexist and he'll seperate but equal us without KY and then blame us. that's what heterosexists do. we're here to be used. as an old queer, you would think i'd have gotten used to being used by straight guys when they needed you and thrown under the bus when they didn't but it still hurts. he's a heterosexist and he'll seperate but equal us without KY and then blame us. that's what heterosexists do. we're here to be used.

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52439 Simon Murphy Mon, 11 May 2009 15:29:36 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52439 By the way it is NOT a complicated issue to repeal the ban. Obama is just scared of alienating those christian weirdos who he's trying to court but who will never allow him to repeal the ban. Just goes to show how little he seems to value his gay constituency (especially in light of his opposition to equality for gay relationships) By the way it is NOT a complicated issue to repeal the ban.

Obama is just scared of alienating those christian weirdos who he's trying to court but who will never allow him to repeal the ban. Just goes to show how little he seems to value his gay constituency (especially in light of his opposition to equality for gay relationships)

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52437 Simon Murphy Mon, 11 May 2009 15:27:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52437 If he has not repealed this absurd ban by the next election I think they gay community should inform him quite clearly that they won't vote for him again. He made a promise to repeal it but it looks like Mr Obama's promises are non-binding now that he's elected. Typically dishonest, weasel-like behaviour from a politician If he has not repealed this absurd ban by the next election I think they gay community should inform him quite clearly that they won't vote for him again. He made a promise to repeal it but it looks like Mr Obama's promises are non-binding now that he's elected. Typically dishonest, weasel-like behaviour from a politician

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]]> By: jonnielondon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52428 jonnielondon Mon, 11 May 2009 13:45:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52428 Well, it's about time already! Let's get this show on the road, and expunge any dishonorable discharges to boot! Well, it's about time already! Let's get this show on the road, and expunge any dishonorable discharges to boot!

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]]> By: steve http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52425 steve Mon, 11 May 2009 13:12:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52425 we as a community -should not allow him to get off easily IF he is in fact changing his mind! we as a community -should not allow him to get off easily IF he is in fact changing his mind!

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]]> By: David http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html/comment-page-1/#comment-52401 David Mon, 11 May 2009 10:02:44 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12362.html#comment-52401 They've changed their tune from it will definitely be repealed. They've changed their tune from it will definitely be repealed.

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