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		<title>By: SteveMD2</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveMD2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the gay rights movement will cause the extinction of conservative churches.

Their buildings will become museums to teach future generations about how God became a God of Hate for so many christians and others,

Perhaps we ought to go back to slavery, which was justified as per the bible.  Except we&#039;ll take these homophobic freaks and make them the slaves, and big black macho men their masters.

It would make an interesting scene.  And shut these nut cases up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the gay rights movement will cause the extinction of conservative churches.</p>
<p>Their buildings will become museums to teach future generations about how God became a God of Hate for so many christians and others,</p>
<p>Perhaps we ought to go back to slavery, which was justified as per the bible.  Except we'll take these homophobic freaks and make them the slaves, and big black macho men their masters.</p>
<p>It would make an interesting scene.  And shut these nut cases up
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		<title>By: John K</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . Why encourge more gun ownership when you already have an out of control gun crime problem . . . Is this not a little . . .IDIOTIC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . Why encourge more gun ownership when you already have an out of control gun crime problem . . . Is this not a little . . .IDIOTIC
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK!  Anyone want to blame us for the Swine Flu as well????? Stupid idiot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK!  Anyone want to blame us for the Swine Flu as well????? Stupid idiot!
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		<title>By: John K</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A country that famously boasted of a bank offering a free gun, when you open account; with the slogan &quot;More bang for your buck&quot; . . . what more can I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A country that famously boasted of a bank offering a free gun, when you open account; with the slogan "More bang for your buck" . . . what more can I say.
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		<title>By: John Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using this &quot;person&#039;s&quot; logic.

1. The &quot;Space Race&quot; started in 1957.
2. I was born in 1957.

Ergo.... I started the Space Race...

You may all form an orderly queue to thank me (donations accepted)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using this "person's" logic.</p>
<p>1. The "Space Race" started in 1957.<br />
2. I was born in 1957.</p>
<p>Ergo&#8230;. I started the Space Race&#8230;</p>
<p>You may all form an orderly queue to thank me (donations accepted)&#8230;
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How amusing!  What next?  Blaming gays for the population explosion on the planet?
This guy doesn&#039;t deserve serious attention, only ridicule.  He&#039;ll probably fall foul of the same outcome as that nutty American preacher who got outed by the rent boy :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How amusing!  What next?  Blaming gays for the population explosion on the planet?<br />
This guy doesn't deserve serious attention, only ridicule.  He'll probably fall foul of the same outcome as that nutty American preacher who got outed by the rent boy <img src='http://www.pinknews.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Hooli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hooli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this was a joke too... good grief..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was a joke too&#8230; good grief..
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		<title>By: Flapjack</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - It reminds me of the false statistical analysis that more people die in hospitals than anywhere else, therefore hospitals must be dangerous and should all be closed down.
A slight variant on this idea is that more people die within one mile of their home than anywhere else, therefore homes are dangerous. Naturally more people die within a mile of their homes than anywhere else, just figure out where people spend the most time on the average day and there&#039;s at least half a day spent at home, during which you could easily pop your clogs from any number of natural or accidental causes.
As Mark Twain said, there are lies, darned lies and statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; It reminds me of the false statistical analysis that more people die in hospitals than anywhere else, therefore hospitals must be dangerous and should all be closed down.<br />
A slight variant on this idea is that more people die within one mile of their home than anywhere else, therefore homes are dangerous. Naturally more people die within a mile of their homes than anywhere else, just figure out where people spend the most time on the average day and there's at least half a day spent at home, during which you could easily pop your clogs from any number of natural or accidental causes.<br />
As Mark Twain said, there are lies, darned lies and statistics.
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		<title>By: Karl Rosenqvist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Rosenqvist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He he .. yeah coz here in fair Sweden we get all those gun-toting maniacs who kill everyone all the time. Err .. wait a minute that&#039;s Texas I&#039;m thinking about. Nope .. seems gay-rights hasn&#039;t killed anyone here lately. There are some straight men who rape young girls and a couple of priests accused of sexual harrasment but I think that&#039;s it.
Gay-rights increasing gun-crimes? Can&#039;t really see it myself.

(Fitting that the SPAM-code this time is &quot;112 doubting&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He he .. yeah coz here in fair Sweden we get all those gun-toting maniacs who kill everyone all the time. Err .. wait a minute that's Texas I'm thinking about. Nope .. seems gay-rights hasn't killed anyone here lately. There are some straight men who rape young girls and a couple of priests accused of sexual harrasment but I think that's it.<br />
Gay-rights increasing gun-crimes? Can't really see it myself.</p>
<p>(Fitting that the SPAM-code this time is "112 doubting")
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		<title>By: Phil P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of these Pink News &quot;Comment sections&quot; are so rich and fascinating and so much excellent effort and thought is being put into them.  But once the stories slip down the page and then disappear onto hidden pages, who sees (or can find) all of these comments?   Are these &quot;Comment sections&quot; findable by way of the Search Engines, like Google etc?

If not, then what we need is a permanent reliable blog, so all this input will not be wasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of these Pink News "Comment sections" are so rich and fascinating and so much excellent effort and thought is being put into them.  But once the stories slip down the page and then disappear onto hidden pages, who sees (or can find) all of these comments?   Are these "Comment sections" findable by way of the Search Engines, like Google etc?</p>
<p>If not, then what we need is a permanent reliable blog, so all this input will not be wasted.
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		<title>By: Bud Burgoon-Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Burgoon-Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is an arsehole on afterburner. Blaming the victims is the oldest play in the fascist play-book. He needs to take a Summer&#039;s Eve (tm) and have a LONG lie-down .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is an arsehole on afterburner. Blaming the victims is the oldest play in the fascist play-book. He needs to take a Summer's Eve &#8482; and have a LONG lie-down .
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gun crime and organised crime, is down to Greed, fear, bigotry and hatred, not sexual freedom! We&#039;ve been blamed for the extreme weather conditions, gun crime, the breaking up of family, decline of public morality. I&#039;m amazed we find the time for sex, let alone anything else. where do these WA**ERS get their ideas from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gun crime and organised crime, is down to Greed, fear, bigotry and hatred, not sexual freedom! We've been blamed for the extreme weather conditions, gun crime, the breaking up of family, decline of public morality. I'm amazed we find the time for sex, let alone anything else. where do these WA**ERS get their ideas from?
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well using Robert Peters logical thought process, I offer some alternative, tongue in cheek, views on this epidemic of gun crime.

I blame the increase on gun crime to the increase in people wanting more materialistic things which are becoming harder and harder to produce due to the rise in the human population.  In other words, it is all those breeders over populating the plant that are the problem - therefore it is the fault of the heterosexuals.  

Or maybe, in the UK, it is due to the gang culture of the dispossesed youth.  The majority of these gangs, and the people doing and getting shot, are black so therefore black people are more dangerous and should all be sent home where there only weapon would be a stick.

And in America I am sure that there is some causal link between the nations right to a gun, dating back to their lawless days when it may have been necessary, and the ability for mentally unstable to gain access to guns to go on mass killing sprees - in this scenario it is the American&#039;s who are responsible for the increase in gun crime.

I am sure, given time I could come up with a link between the disappearance of bees to the increase in gun crime but everytime I read what this man seems to honestly think I get a fit of the giggles and can&#039;t see as my eyes start to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well using Robert Peters logical thought process, I offer some alternative, tongue in cheek, views on this epidemic of gun crime.</p>
<p>I blame the increase on gun crime to the increase in people wanting more materialistic things which are becoming harder and harder to produce due to the rise in the human population.  In other words, it is all those breeders over populating the plant that are the problem &#8211; therefore it is the fault of the heterosexuals.  </p>
<p>Or maybe, in the UK, it is due to the gang culture of the dispossesed youth.  The majority of these gangs, and the people doing and getting shot, are black so therefore black people are more dangerous and should all be sent home where there only weapon would be a stick.</p>
<p>And in America I am sure that there is some causal link between the nations right to a gun, dating back to their lawless days when it may have been necessary, and the ability for mentally unstable to gain access to guns to go on mass killing sprees &#8211; in this scenario it is the American's who are responsible for the increase in gun crime.</p>
<p>I am sure, given time I could come up with a link between the disappearance of bees to the increase in gun crime but everytime I read what this man seems to honestly think I get a fit of the giggles and can't see as my eyes start to water.
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this guy should sit on his ass and stop talking out of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this guy should sit on his ass and stop talking out of it?
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		<title>By: Flapjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flapjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an abuse of a syllogistic argument, which is why many syllogistic arguments fail under philosophical scrutiny. The format of syllogistic arguments is A has characteristics of B. B has characteristics of C. Therefore A=C. In this case &quot;gun crime is on the rise. Gay rights are on the rise. Therefore gay rights caused the guncrime&quot;. Go to the bottom of the debating class that man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an abuse of a syllogistic argument, which is why many syllogistic arguments fail under philosophical scrutiny. The format of syllogistic arguments is A has characteristics of B. B has characteristics of C. Therefore A=C. In this case "gun crime is on the rise. Gay rights are on the rise. Therefore gay rights caused the guncrime". Go to the bottom of the debating class that man.
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		<title>By: Edward Fisher Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Fisher Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this guy is a dick wad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this guy is a dick wad.
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		<title>By: marilena</title>
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		<dc:creator>marilena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he means to say proportional not inversely proportional, or am I wrong?
he says: &quot;It is my intention to point out that the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to the decline in morality; and it is the decline of morality that is the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders.&quot;. 
if that was true then as the sexual revolution succeeds (increase A = sexual revolution successes) the decline of morality decreases (decrease B, B = decline of morality), which would mean that morality is enhanced. 
no?
wtf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he means to say proportional not inversely proportional, or am I wrong?<br />
he says: "It is my intention to point out that the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to the decline in morality; and it is the decline of morality that is the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders.".<br />
if that was true then as the sexual revolution succeeds (increase A = sexual revolution successes) the decline of morality decreases (decrease B, B = decline of morality), which would mean that morality is enhanced.<br />
no?<br />
wtf
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		<title>By: Timothy Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guns dont kill people.  People kill people.  This has no factual statement in anything he says.  I understand that alot of people dont like guns, but being a gun owning gay person myself I really thing this man is way off base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guns dont kill people.  People kill people.  This has no factual statement in anything he says.  I understand that alot of people dont like guns, but being a gun owning gay person myself I really thing this man is way off base.
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		<title>By: Bishop Ioan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bishop Ioan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lies from the religious wrong just keep coming, don&#039;t they? How any sane person can link gun crime to gay rights is beyond me. Oh yeah, Robert Peters is insane--let&#039;s make that bats**t insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lies from the religious wrong just keep coming, don't they? How any sane person can link gun crime to gay rights is beyond me. Oh yeah, Robert Peters is insane&#8211;let's make that bats**t insane.
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um - sorry for being the social scientific geek here - but this guy is confusing &#039;indirect proportion&#039; (i.e. causal link) with association

yes - there may be an association - but there are statistical associations between a lot of totally unrelated things - very poor thinking I&#039;m afraid - almost not worthy of comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um &#8211; sorry for being the social scientific geek here &#8211; but this guy is confusing 'indirect proportion' (i.e. causal link) with association</p>
<p>yes &#8211; there may be an association &#8211; but there are statistical associations between a lot of totally unrelated things &#8211; very poor thinking I'm afraid &#8211; almost not worthy of comment.
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