Comments on: Miss California defends gay marriage comments http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:26:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Leon K Fox http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-51003 Leon K Fox Fri, 01 May 2009 08:22:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-51003 What a bigot, but at least she didn't try to beat around the bush and use religion as an excuse What a bigot, but at least she didn't try to beat around the bush and use religion as an excuse

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]]> By: Pumpkin Pie http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-50139 Pumpkin Pie Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:31:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-50139 Nice going, Edward and Alan. You guys covered pretty much everything I wanted to. I'd just like to make it known to Noelia that there are homosexual animals in nature. Animals don't "choose". One theory is that homosexuality is a safety guard against over-population, resulting in mates who won't increase the numbers of the group, but can contribute to the existing group and look after the young that other mates can't care for (yes, several species of animals do practice adoption). Also, I'd just like to reiterate that if you're trying to deny me equal rights and advocating that I should be mentally conditioned to act in a way that you find acceptable, it is hateful. I don't care if you do it with a smile on your face, with the hope that I can be "cured" and see the "light" and be bestest buddies with your weirdo cult forever and ever. I don't care if you give me a hug or a motherfucking cookie, it's still hateful. Screw you. Nice going, Edward and Alan.

You guys covered pretty much everything I wanted to. I'd just like to make it known to Noelia that there are homosexual animals in nature. Animals don't "choose". One theory is that homosexuality is a safety guard against over-population, resulting in mates who won't increase the numbers of the group, but can contribute to the existing group and look after the young that other mates can't care for (yes, several species of animals do practice adoption).

Also, I'd just like to reiterate that if you're trying to deny me equal rights and advocating that I should be mentally conditioned to act in a way that you find acceptable, it is hateful. I don't care if you do it with a smile on your face, with the hope that I can be "cured" and see the "light" and be bestest buddies with your weirdo cult forever and ever. I don't care if you give me a hug or a motherfucking cookie, it's still hateful. Screw you.

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]]> By: Edward in Los Angeles http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49948 Edward in Los Angeles Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:26:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49948 I have ears, Noella and my God is telling me that you spend far too much time telling other people how to live their lives. Spend more time asking yourself how to improve yourself, rather than how to improve others. God, that sounds like it could be the 11th commandment. I have ears, Noella and my God is telling me that you spend far too much time telling other people how to live their lives. Spend more time asking yourself how to improve yourself, rather than how to improve others. God, that sounds like it could be the 11th commandment.

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]]> By: Edward in Los Angeles http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49947 Edward in Los Angeles Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:22:44 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49947 You're right Rachel, she isn't hateful...she's just a bigot. When someone disagrees with another human being having the same rights as you, that's the exact definition of a bigot. You're right Rachel, she isn't hateful…she's just a bigot. When someone disagrees with another human being having the same rights as you, that's the exact definition of a bigot.

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]]> By: Edward in Los Angeles http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49946 Edward in Los Angeles Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:19:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49946 Noella, your logic becomes more and more skewed each time you post. If I, gay, (as you phrased it) was put in the middle of an Evangelical congregation and I stood up for gay marriage....I WOULD BE STANDING UP FOR EQUAL RIGHTS!! She was standing up for taking away our rights! For crissake, either think things out before you post here or take a beginning college course in logic. Noella, your logic becomes more and more skewed each time you post. If I, gay, (as you phrased it) was put in the middle of an Evangelical congregation and I stood up for gay marriage….I WOULD BE STANDING UP FOR EQUAL RIGHTS!! She was standing up for taking away our rights! For crissake, either think things out before you post here or take a beginning college course in logic.

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]]> By: iain http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49895 iain Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:22:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49895 I am not sure if Carrie Prejan could be regarded as dumb. Although she did look somewhat dumbstruck by the question Perez asked her. But as for being a bitch,Perez gets the tiara here for his abusive video blog. I am not sure if Carrie Prejan could be regarded as dumb. Although she did look somewhat dumbstruck by the question Perez asked her.
But as for being a bitch,Perez gets the tiara here for his abusive video blog.

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]]> By: Alan Parker http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49862 Alan Parker Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:53:12 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49862 @Felicia If she had said that it was her belief that a black man shouldn't marry a white woman which, let's face it is something that the religious right believed not that very long ago, would you still defend her? If she had said that she believed that enslaving black people was right, as was justified by the religious right not that long ago, would you still defend her? I classify myself as liberal, and believe that free speech is one of cornerstones of a civilised society. However, I also believe that the kind of hatred generated by the kind of ill informed comments made by Ms Prejan have no place in this day and age. It's a pity that he outdated and prejudiced viewpoint cost her the competition but, c'est la vie. Equality means equality for all, not equality for some but we religious folk want to be able to call the LGBT community whatever we want. If you boil it down, people choose their religion, they don't choose their sexuality. @Felicia

If she had said that it was her belief that a black man shouldn't marry a white woman which, let's face it is something that the religious right believed not that very long ago, would you still defend her?

If she had said that she believed that enslaving black people was right, as was justified by the religious right not that long ago, would you still defend her?

I classify myself as liberal, and believe that free speech is one of cornerstones of a civilised society. However, I also believe that the kind of hatred generated by the kind of ill informed comments made by Ms Prejan have no place in this day and age. It's a pity that he outdated and prejudiced viewpoint cost her the competition but, c'est la vie.

Equality means equality for all, not equality for some but we religious folk want to be able to call the LGBT community whatever we want. If you boil it down, people choose their religion, they don't choose their sexuality.

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]]> By: Noelia http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49842 Noelia Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:51:47 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49842 Ivan & co. One thing is for sure, everyone who disagrees with homosexuality DOESN’T hate homosexuals. I sense as if some of you feel that it is the case. Believe it or not, it’s possible to disagree and still keep a cordial relationship. I know there a lot of people out there who HATE gays, just like muslims HATE Christians, etc. etc. My view is God’s view (in the Bible). But I don’t stand by those who claim to be christians and yet crucify everyone who chooses to live by other standards than those of God. Crucifying someone whom we believe is living contrary to God’s intended purpose, that itself, would be contradicting God; but know that His Word remains, and it doesn’t change depending on our choices (including me 1st). God created us all, and He loves us all. And just because I’m not part of your battle doesn’t mean I don’t have my own. And FYI, we may have all the statistics we can find, which by the way, are not found in the Bible, but biblically God made penis and vagina, therefore there are 2 genders. Homosexuality is a preference/choice people make (not a nature thing), just as there are many other things in life that we, people, choose for ourselves that are not according to God’s intended purpose for mankind. If you have ears, hear what God is telling you, my friend. Ivan & co.
One thing is for sure, everyone who disagrees with homosexuality DOESN’T hate homosexuals. I sense as if some of you feel that it is the case. Believe it or not, it’s possible to disagree and still keep a cordial relationship. I know there a lot of people out there who HATE gays, just like muslims HATE Christians, etc. etc. My view is God’s view (in the Bible). But I don’t stand by those who claim to be christians and yet crucify everyone who chooses to live by other standards than those of God. Crucifying someone whom we believe is living contrary to God’s intended purpose, that itself, would be contradicting God; but know that His Word remains, and it doesn’t change depending on our choices (including me 1st). God created us all, and He loves us all. And just because I’m not part of your battle doesn’t mean I don’t have my own. And FYI, we may have all the statistics we can find, which by the way, are not found in the Bible, but biblically God made penis and vagina, therefore there are 2 genders. Homosexuality is a preference/choice people make (not a nature thing), just as there are many other things in life that we, people, choose for ourselves that are not according to God’s intended purpose for mankind. If you have ears, hear what God is telling you, my friend.

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]]> By: Rachel http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49839 Rachel Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:48:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49839 Why is carrie so hated just because she kindly and lovingly expressed that she does not believe in same sex marrige? You can't hate everyone you come across that has a different opinion than you do. There are millions of people out there who are against gay marriage (myself being one of them) so why is she any different? You know, it would be different if she did it in a hateful way, but she didn't. Perez asked her an honest question and she gave an honest answer. She wasn't rude, she wasn't hateful; she simply stated her beliefs. Is there anything wrong with that? I get so tired of people saying that Bible believing Christians are so hateful when they speak out against a subject such as this one and that they need to be more loving. Miss California was in no way hateful. She spoke honestly and with love and she is still being hated because of it. Why is carrie so hated just because she kindly and lovingly expressed that she does not believe in same sex marrige? You can't hate everyone you come across that has a different opinion than you do. There are millions of people out there who are against gay marriage (myself being one of them) so why is she any different? You know, it would be different if she did it in a hateful way, but she didn't. Perez asked her an honest question and she gave an honest answer. She wasn't rude, she wasn't hateful; she simply stated her beliefs. Is there anything wrong with that? I get so tired of people saying that Bible believing Christians are so hateful when they speak out against a subject such as this one and that they need to be more loving. Miss California was in no way hateful. She spoke honestly and with love and she is still being hated because of it.

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]]> By: Noelia http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49838 Noelia Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:43:31 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49838 Miss California didn’t attack anyone; she was in the spot light and had to answer truthfully. If you, gay, were put in the middle of an Evangelical congregation (not that you want to), and were asked the same question, you would’ve answered truthfully, no matter what. Miss California didn’t attack anyone; she was in the spot light and had to answer truthfully. If you, gay, were put in the middle of an Evangelical congregation (not that you want to), and were asked the same question, you would’ve answered truthfully, no matter what.

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]]> By: stephen kay http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49834 stephen kay Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:32:44 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49834 @noella...u have a gay brother yet you still don`t agree with homosexuallity. I have no idea what u are talking about. Do u still want him to be straight is that what you mean? Your eyes are open yet you still don`t see!!!Gay people are born gay and deserve the equal protection afforded staright people.There is nothing that your disagreeing xcan do to change that. You could however join a group like "Focus on the family" who is trying to bring in legislation that protects Christians who bully gay kids.That group doesn`t agree with homosexuallity..that is what not agreeing with homosexuallity is about...I nthink it`s best u go and educate yourself before u comment on issues dealing with our liberation you daft cow!!! @noella…u have a gay brother yet you still don`t agree with homosexuallity. I have no idea what u are talking about. Do u still want him to be straight is that what you mean? Your eyes are open yet you still don`t see!!!Gay people are born gay and deserve the equal protection afforded staright people.There is nothing that your disagreeing xcan do to change that. You could however join a group like "Focus on the family" who is trying to bring in legislation that protects Christians who bully gay kids.That group doesn`t agree with homosexuallity..that is what not agreeing with homosexuallity is about…I nthink it`s best u go and educate yourself before u comment on issues dealing with our liberation you daft cow!!!

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]]> By: Felicia http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49823 Felicia Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:15:33 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49823 Funny how liberals are supposed to be so tolerant and they believe in free speech, but as soon as someone expresses an opinion that isn't in line with their own, they're called horrible names and belittled. I am really proud of Carrie. That took alot of courage for her to stand up for her convictions, even though she knew it would cost her the crown. No one should be afraid to stand up for what they believe in. This doesn't make her a bigot. It's her personal conviction. Aren't people still allowed to have those? What's the country coming to? God help us. Funny how liberals are supposed to be so tolerant and they believe in free speech, but as soon as someone expresses an opinion that isn't in line with their own, they're called horrible names and belittled. I am really proud of Carrie. That took alot of courage for her to stand up for her convictions, even though she knew it would cost her the crown. No one should be afraid to stand up for what they believe in. This doesn't make her a bigot. It's her personal conviction. Aren't people still allowed to have those? What's the country coming to? God help us.

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]]> By: Edward in Los Angeles http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49814 Edward in Los Angeles Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:18:14 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49814 Well put, Pumpkin Pie. You said it better than I could. Well put, Pumpkin Pie. You said it better than I could.

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]]> By: Pumpkin Pie http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49796 Pumpkin Pie Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:34:36 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49796 Any persecuted minority should NEVER respect the views of those who hate them because they're different. This always has been the case, it always should be the case. Any persecuted minority should NEVER respect the views of those who hate them because they're different. This always has been the case, it always should be the case.

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]]> By: Edward in Los Angeles http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49786 Edward in Los Angeles Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:00:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49786 I love some of the generalizations I'm seeing on this page. "Gays don’t respect people who disagree with them"...or "they savagely attack and offend". Noella, first off, it's time to drop the stereotyping. And #2, it's time gay people get angry. With NO OTHER MINORITY could this woman have gotten away saying such a bigoted comment on live television. She wasn't brave, SHE'S A BIGOT! She didn't even think about what she was saying, she is just conditioned by her religion and upbringing to spew off at the mouth. (Listen to what her grandmother said the next day in defending her!) Perez Hilton isn't Dear Abby, he's PISSED OFF and he has a right to be! We all have a right to be. Because it's OUR RIGHTS at stake, Noella. It's obviously not YOUR RIGHTS that are at stake here, or you wouldn't be talking like you are. I love some of the generalizations I'm seeing on this page. "Gays don’t respect people who disagree with them"…or "they savagely attack and offend". Noella, first off, it's time to drop the stereotyping. And #2, it's time gay people get angry. With NO OTHER MINORITY could this woman have gotten away saying such a bigoted comment on live television. She wasn't brave, SHE'S A BIGOT! She didn't even think about what she was saying, she is just conditioned by her religion and upbringing to spew off at the mouth. (Listen to what her grandmother said the next day in defending her!) Perez Hilton isn't Dear Abby, he's PISSED OFF and he has a right to be! We all have a right to be. Because it's OUR RIGHTS at stake, Noella. It's obviously not YOUR RIGHTS that are at stake here, or you wouldn't be talking like you are.

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]]> By: Michell http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49785 Michell Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:33:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49785 maybe you lost because you're not as attractive as you think you are? Anyways theres always going to be people like Prejan. I dont exactly find her 'refreshing' because i hear that kind of stuff everyday how gay people shouldnt be able to get married. maybe you lost because you're not as attractive as you think you are?

Anyways theres always going to be people like Prejan. I dont exactly find her 'refreshing' because i hear that kind of stuff everyday how gay people shouldnt be able to get married.

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]]> By: Ivan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49766 Ivan Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:22:38 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49766 @Noelia Nice try. But the answer to my question is? @Noelia

Nice try. But the answer to my question is?

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]]> By: jonnielondon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49761 jonnielondon Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:51:17 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49761 Noelia, not agreeing with homosexuality is like not agreeing with the moon: it's still there, it's natural, and no one is going to change that fact! It's normal for 10% to be gay; it's normal for 2-3% to be transgender; it's normal for 37-46% to be bi, and it's normal for some minority to be straight too. Noelia, not agreeing with homosexuality is like not agreeing with the moon: it's still there, it's natural, and no one is going to change that fact! It's normal for 10% to be gay; it's normal for 2-3% to be transgender; it's normal for 37-46% to be bi, and it's normal for some minority to be straight too.

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]]> By: Noelia http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49758 Noelia Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:45:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49758 Well said, Jamie O'Neill. Because of people like you and because of people like my gay brother and his husband is that I can have a healthy view towards homosexualism. Like I told my brother, whom I love so much, "I may not agree with you, but I love you". My brother and his husband are great men, wonderful human beings, educated, and responsible citizens. I just didn't see the need to make a war out of it. Everyone has a battle of their own. Well said, Jamie O'Neill. Because of people like you and because of people like my gay brother and his husband is that I can have a healthy view towards homosexualism. Like I told my brother, whom I love so much, "I may not agree with you, but I love you". My brother and his husband are great men, wonderful human beings, educated, and responsible citizens. I just didn't see the need to make a war out of it. Everyone has a battle of their own.

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]]> By: Jen http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html/comment-page-1/#comment-49757 Jen Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:43:17 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-12088.html#comment-49757 Both Perez Hilton and Miss California are gross humans, and representative only of medium-low-functioning dolts everywhere. Both Perez Hilton and Miss California are gross humans, and representative only of medium-low-functioning dolts everywhere.

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