Comments on: Northen Ireland MP Iris Robinson will not face prosecution for comparing homosexuality to paedophillia

Comments on: Northen Ireland MP Iris Robinson will not face prosecution for comparing homosexuality to paedophillia http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:26:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: P Gibbs http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-47403 P Gibbs Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:44:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-47403 Exactly just what would this maniac have to say before she is arrested? Exactly just what would this maniac have to say before she is arrested?

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]]> By: Tom http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-47131 Tom Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:51:44 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-47131 "Friend", whether your statistics are accurate or not - you are missing one important point. Gay people may not want civil partnerships because for decades they have been told by an uncaring society that they are promiscuous, bad, mentally ill, going to hell, just like paeodphiles and therefore undeserving of long-term relationships. How on earth are gay people expected to have the same goals as straight people if society has made it so hard for them to attain them? We have only had CPs for a couple of years (and it's still a second-class version of proper marriage - not good enough in my view). You are therefore using fallacious statistics to support what is a homophobic point. "Friend", whether your statistics are accurate or not – you are missing one important point. Gay people may not want civil partnerships because for decades they have been told by an uncaring society that they are promiscuous, bad, mentally ill, going to hell, just like paeodphiles and therefore undeserving of long-term relationships. How on earth are gay people expected to have the same goals as straight people if society has made it so hard for them to attain them? We have only had CPs for a couple of years (and it's still a second-class version of proper marriage – not good enough in my view).

You are therefore using fallacious statistics to support what is a homophobic point.

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-47121 Simon Murphy Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:45:55 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-47121 Her constituency of Strangford is a predominantly Free Presbyterian consituency. This is the heartland of Ian Paisley's church which believes that the earth is 5000 years old and that homosexuality is an abomination. When it comes to Northern Ireland I think the LGBT cannot be at risk of too much special pleading. Considering that in Northern Ireland until very recently 95% of the NI police force came from 1 section of the community and considering the far higher prevalence of religious extremists in NI than anywhere else in the UK I think the LGBT community there are very wise to question whether the police there are fit for purpose when it comes to policing incitement to hatred. The police in NI still draws many of its recruits from people who share Robinson's views. And sorry if you find it offensive but someone who regards homosexuality as an abomination is a facist. Hitler regarded the Jews as abominations. We cannot let this crazed bigot get away with this. She has stated clearly that she regards a law abiding section of the community (whom she is supposed to represent) as abominations. She would not get away with calling black people abominations (or indeed catholics - although she believes that also). She is crazed and dangerous and the police must know that incitement to hatred against someone based on their sexual orientation is as unacceptable as incitement to hatred based on race or religion. Mail the police at information@nipolicingboard.org.uk to question why they will happily tolerate incitement to hatred against gay people. Her constituency of Strangford is a predominantly Free Presbyterian consituency. This is the heartland of Ian Paisley's church which believes that the earth is 5000 years old and that homosexuality is an abomination.

When it comes to Northern Ireland I think the LGBT cannot be at risk of too much special pleading. Considering that in Northern Ireland until very recently 95% of the NI police force came from 1 section of the community and considering the far higher prevalence of religious extremists in NI than anywhere else in the UK I think the LGBT community there are very wise to question whether the police there are fit for purpose when it comes to policing incitement to hatred.

The police in NI still draws many of its recruits from people who share Robinson's views.

And sorry if you find it offensive but someone who regards homosexuality as an abomination is a facist. Hitler regarded the Jews as abominations. We cannot let this crazed bigot get away with this.

She has stated clearly that she regards a law abiding section of the community (whom she is supposed to represent) as abominations. She would not get away with calling black people abominations (or indeed catholics – although she believes that also). She is crazed and dangerous and the police must know that incitement to hatred against someone based on their sexual orientation is as unacceptable as incitement to hatred based on race or religion.

Mail the police at information@nipolicingboard.org.uk to question why they will happily tolerate incitement to hatred against gay people.

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]]> By: Petra http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-47094 Petra Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:40:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-47094 A lot of people vote for her, not just extremists. Is language such as fascist and religious nutter displaying tolerance and respect for her views and beliefs, which are shared by many? The LGBT comunity is at risk of too much special pleading here. The law says no offence, not the police or the PPS - they interpret it, and maybe they're right; its law not popularity. Remember that there are those who would re-criminalise homosexuality. A lot of people vote for her, not just extremists. Is language such as fascist and religious nutter displaying tolerance and respect for her views and beliefs, which are shared by many? The LGBT comunity is at risk of too much special pleading here. The law says no offence, not the police or the PPS – they interpret it, and maybe they're right; its law not popularity. Remember that there are those who would re-criminalise homosexuality.

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-47091 Simon Murphy Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:00:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-47091 Because Chris - she is the MP for a religious extremist constituency. Her constituency thinks very highly of her and she will be re-elected easily. There are too many religious extremists in Northern Ireland to rely on elections to remove facist bigots like Robinson from office. The religious nutters in Northern Ireland are too dangerous to ignore. Because Chris – she is the MP for a religious extremist constituency. Her constituency thinks very highly of her and she will be re-elected easily. There are too many religious extremists in Northern Ireland to rely on elections to remove facist bigots like Robinson from office. The religious nutters in Northern Ireland are too dangerous to ignore.

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]]> By: Chris Ward http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-47086 Chris Ward Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:08:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-47086 Why do we need to prosecute her when her comments did more damage to her credibility than any court case could have done? Why do we need to prosecute her when her comments did more damage to her credibility than any court case could have done?

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]]> By: ivan lewis http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-47069 ivan lewis Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:18:20 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-47069 what a VACHE ,has she been under a rock all of her life,or is she just suffering from a severe case of stupidity.Isuspect the latter.she appears to be fighting her own personal demons,closet lesbian,come out come out.she is one of many bigots in northern ireland what a VACHE ,has she been under a rock all of her life,or is she just suffering from a severe case of stupidity.Isuspect the latter.she appears to be fighting her own personal demons,closet lesbian,come out come out.she is one of many bigots in northern ireland

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]]> By: Dan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-47051 Dan Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:22:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-47051 Vile woman Vile woman

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]]> By: Michael http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46962 Michael Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:04:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46962 email should read: nigrasec@googlemail.com email should read: nigrasec@googlemail.com

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]]> By: Michael http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46960 Michael Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:03:32 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46960 <b>UPDATE</b> <b>Protest against Iris Robinson decision by PPS outside Laganside Courts</b> The NIGRA protest against on Tuesday 24 March 2009 from 12.30 pm is being held outside Laganside Courts, Oxford Street, Belfast, opposite the Waterfront Hall. This venue will give us a much higher visibility than we would have had in Chichester Street. Please publicise it - and come yourself. Email for further info: nigrasec@googlmail.com UPDATE

Protest against Iris Robinson decision by PPS outside Laganside Courts
The NIGRA protest against on Tuesday 24 March 2009 from 12.30 pm is being held outside Laganside Courts, Oxford Street, Belfast, opposite the Waterfront Hall.

This venue will give us a much higher visibility than we would have had in Chichester Street.

Please publicise it – and come yourself.

Email for further info: nigrasec@googlmail.com

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46944 Eddy Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:57:34 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46944 “There can be no viler act, apart from homosexuality and sodomy, than sexually abusing innocent children” —Iris Robinson - House of Commons committee minutes. The above is what is recorded in Hansard as having been stated by Iris Robinson. Let's be clear about she said. Her words mean that homosexuality is MORE VILE than the sexual abuse of children. As practically everyone would agree that the sexual abuse of children is an act that deserves hatred and detestation, it follows that Iris Robinson was encouraging others to hold the view that <b>homosexuality is more worthy of hatred and detestation than the sexual abuse of children. “There can be no viler act, apart from homosexuality and sodomy, than sexually abusing innocent children” —Iris Robinson – House of Commons committee minutes.

The above is what is recorded in Hansard as having been stated by Iris Robinson.

Let's be clear about she said. Her words mean that homosexuality is MORE VILE than the sexual abuse of children.

As practically everyone would agree that the sexual abuse of children is an act that deserves hatred and detestation, it follows that Iris Robinson was encouraging others to hold the view that homosexuality is more worthy of hatred and detestation than the sexual abuse of children.

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]]> By: FRIEND again... http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46918 FRIEND again... Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:32:31 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46918 JD Sorry I must correct you. The original Govt estimate was that 3.3% of the LGBT community wanted official lifelong committment (civil partnerships). Source;- http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/ria/full_civil-partnership.pdf My point was to Mr Matthews in post 30 that while he is a long term relationship, Govt research suggests it is not the norm in LGBT community. Therefore generalized comparisons with hetero marriage are not justified. My friend from the gay community affirmed this viewpoint. Friend JD
Sorry I must correct you. The original Govt estimate was that 3.3% of the LGBT community wanted official lifelong committment (civil partnerships). Source;-
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/ria/full_civil-partnership.pdf
My point was to Mr Matthews in post 30 that while he is a long term relationship, Govt research suggests it is not the norm in LGBT community.
Therefore generalized comparisons with hetero marriage are not justified. My friend from the gay community affirmed this viewpoint.
Friend

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]]> By: shaunagus http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46917 shaunagus Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:30:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46917 "friend": the govt admit they understimated demand for civil partnerships massively. In my area, in the registry office, demand for them has outstripped demand for marriage significantly since civil partnerships were introduced. and research suggests that 70% of straight men cheat on their wives. naomi: if you want to defend people who have a desire to have sex with children, then go and find a pedophile site to do it. this is not a site for people who want to abuse children (regardless of whether they act on it or not). This is news site for people who love and/or have sex with consenting adults. They are not similar in any way at all. Trying to confuse the issue and imply that it is a similar issue is dishonest of you. You could just as easily be posting on a hetero site of you simply view it as an orientation. So much of the hate that is directed at LGBT people is because of people like you comparing us with people that want to, or who actually do, abuse children. "friend": the govt admit they understimated demand for civil partnerships massively. In my area, in the registry office, demand for them has outstripped demand for marriage significantly since civil partnerships were introduced. and research suggests that 70% of straight men cheat on their wives.

naomi: if you want to defend people who have a desire to have sex with children, then go and find a pedophile site to do it. this is not a site for people who want to abuse children (regardless of whether they act on it or not). This is news site for people who love and/or have sex with consenting adults.

They are not similar in any way at all.
Trying to confuse the issue and imply that it is a similar issue is dishonest of you. You could just as easily be posting on a hetero site of you simply view it as an orientation. So much of the hate that is directed at LGBT people is because of people like you comparing us with people that want to, or who actually do, abuse children.

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]]> By: FRIEND http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46916 FRIEND Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:24:46 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46916 JD Sorry I must correct you. The original Govt estimate was that 3.3% of the LGBT community wanted official lifelong committment (civil partnerships). Source;- http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/ria/full_civil-partnership.pdf My point was to Mr Matthews in post 30 that while he is a long term relationship, Govt research suggests it is not the norm in LGBT community. Therefore generalized comparisons with hetero marriage are not justified. My friend from the gay community affirmed this viewpoint. Friend JD
Sorry I must correct you. The original Govt estimate was that 3.3% of the LGBT community wanted official lifelong committment (civil partnerships). Source;-
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/ria/full_civil-partnership.pdf
My point was to Mr Matthews in post 30 that while he is a long term relationship, Govt research suggests it is not the norm in LGBT community.
Therefore generalized comparisons with hetero marriage are not justified. My friend from the gay community affirmed this viewpoint.
Friend

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46915 Eddy Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:09:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46915 <b>The Northern Ireland Gay Rights Association has organised a protest against this scandalous decision. It is at 12.30pm on Tuesday 24th March, 2009, in Chichester Street Belfast, near the Public Prosecution Service's office. Everyone is welcome to attend. If you are coming, it would be helpful if you could email nigrasec@googlemail.com to give them an idea of numbers. PLEASE PUBLICISE THIS DEMONSTRATION. Inform everyone you know right NOW! The Northern Ireland Gay Rights Association has organised a protest against this scandalous decision. It is at 12.30pm on Tuesday 24th March, 2009, in Chichester Street Belfast, near the Public Prosecution Service's office.

Everyone is welcome to attend. If you are coming, it would be helpful if you could email nigrasec@googlemail.com to give them an idea of numbers.

PLEASE PUBLICISE THIS DEMONSTRATION. Inform everyone you know right NOW!
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]]> By: Mike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46914 Mike Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:43:17 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46914 What is our country coming too when people who defend our brave lads against mad protesters get arrested and this person is allowed to get away with homophobic rantings! What is our country coming too when people who defend our brave lads against mad protesters get arrested and this person is allowed to get away with homophobic rantings!

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46912 Eddy Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:28:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46912 Well done, "Northern Ireland Gay Rights Association" (nigrasec@googlemail.com)for organising a protest against the scandalous decision in favour of Iris Robinson. You will no doubt be publicising this event everywhere you possibly can in Northern Ireland, but do publicise it in the UK as well simply because of the contacts that people in the UK have with people in NI. It's so important to let all the papers know TODAY that your demonstration is at 12.30pm on Tuesday 24th March, 2009, in Chichester Street Belfast, near the Public Prosecution Service's office. Do make sure you let the major gay websites know about it, particularly Pink News. Well done, "Northern Ireland Gay Rights Association" (nigrasec@googlemail.com)for organising a protest against the scandalous decision in favour of Iris Robinson. You will no doubt be publicising this event everywhere you possibly can in Northern Ireland, but do publicise it in the UK as well simply because of the contacts that people in the UK have with people in NI. It's so important to let all the papers know TODAY that your demonstration is at 12.30pm on Tuesday 24th March, 2009, in Chichester Street Belfast, near the Public Prosecution Service's office. Do make sure you let the major gay websites know about it, particularly Pink News.

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]]> By: Ken http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46900 Ken Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:55:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46900 F-----g c--t F—–g c–t

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]]> By: Ian Laughlin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-2/#comment-46893 Ian Laughlin Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:05:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46893 That's good news Michael. Well done NIGRA, and I hope that other organisations lend support for Tuesday's demonstration. The appearance of screeds such as those endeavouring to establish logical links between gay rights and the right to practice paedophilic acts, or whining heterosexuals complaining about the fact that they can't attack "the gays" with impunity anymore, all show that PinkNews has made it to the haters' radar. They will eventually get bored, but for a while, every spotty adolescent homo-hater will be on the comments pages posting abuse or trying to provoke. At least their online tirades keep them out the way and not living out their dangerous fantasies. That's good news Michael. Well done NIGRA, and I hope that other organisations lend support for Tuesday's demonstration.

The appearance of screeds such as those endeavouring to establish logical links between gay rights and the right to practice paedophilic acts, or whining heterosexuals complaining about the fact that they can't attack "the gays" with impunity anymore, all show that PinkNews has made it to the haters' radar. They will eventually get bored, but for a while, every spotty adolescent homo-hater will be on the comments pages posting abuse or trying to provoke. At least their online tirades keep them out the way and not living out their dangerous fantasies.

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]]> By: Michael http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html/comment-page-1/#comment-46887 Michael Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:06:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11683.html#comment-46887 The Northern Ireland Gay Rights Association has organised a protest against this scandalous decision. It is at 12.30pm on Tuesday 24th March, 2009, in Chichester Street Belfast, near the Public Prosecution Service's office. Everyone is welcome to attend. If you are coming, it would be helpful if you could email me at nigrasec@googlemail.com to assist with numbers. The Northern Ireland Gay Rights Association has organised a protest against this scandalous decision. It is at 12.30pm on Tuesday 24th March, 2009, in Chichester Street Belfast, near the Public Prosecution Service's office.

Everyone is welcome to attend. If you are coming, it would be helpful if you could email me at nigrasec@googlemail.com to assist with numbers.

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