Comments on: The 50 most powerful gay, lesbian and bisexual people in British politics

By: Bent Sauer(Denmark)

Bent Sauer(Denmark) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:13:50 +0000

Dear friends in GB – I don't understand your interrest in the sex-orientation. Damn ! aren't they just duing their job?

By: Kay

Kay — Fri, 22 May 2009 19:59:37 +0000

I notice that the word "bisexual" wasn't used to describe a single one of those people. The only bi person I could identify was Simon Hughes. Maybe it's just that I'm out of the loop, and everyone else can see the Bs as well as the Ls and Gs.

I only sound cranky and peeved because I am.

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:49:50 +0000

Jean Paul, sorry for delay. In 1950 Robbie Ross's Ashes was interred it Wilde's Tomb by admirers.

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By: Jean-Paul

Jean-Paul — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:17:02 +0000

Do you know when? and by whom? That's incredible! I seem to recall my father telling me that Wilde had once said something like: I believe excessive drinking can produce all the symptoms of drunkenness! He was known as quite a witty man, wasn't he, and a gentleman as well.

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:13:07 +0000

Jean-Paul, Robbie Ross's Ashes have been intered in Osca's tomb in the Paris Cemitary.

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By: Jean-Paul

Jean-Paul — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:16:12 +0000

Brian. Thank you. I can pick it up from there. I love history and so do you. There are many other wonderful articles in this highly informative newspaper (PinkNews) that you can be commenting on, and please do. I hope to meet you again on some other issue. Best regards to your partner.

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:47:43 +0000

Jean-Paul, Osca wilde is famouse for his plays books and wit. He was married with two children but his Homosexual instincts had always been there. He had a long passionate affaire with Lord Alfred Douglass whom Osca called 'Bosie' and his Father was Lord Queensberry who hated Wilde with a vengence. Eventually, Queensberry brought down Osca and wallowed in Osca's disgrace and imprisonment for two years. Osca wrote the plays: Lady Windermeres Fan, The Importance o Being Ernist, The Ideal Husband, a novel called 'A portrait Of Dorian Grey and sonnets and proes and much more. Can you imagine a man like him saying: "I can resist anything exept temtation." When he was released from Prison, Robbie Ross met him at the gates and helped him to get to Paris to live. Eventually Bosie joined him and they were photographed together on one of the Boulavardes. Mor later Jean-Paul.

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By: Jean-Paul

Jean-Paul — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:31:19 +0000

Brian, Thanks for the enlightenment. I seem to recall my English Lit professor saying something about Wilde's last words: «What dreadful wallpaper!». Also, isn't he buried in that famous cemetery in Paris, and didn't he actually share glass of bubbly with Walt Whiteman when he visted the USA. But what exactly is he famous for?

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:03:20 +0000

Jean-paul, Oscar Wilde was the first known Homosexual to be sentenced to two years in Prison for Homosexuality,(the love that dare not speak it's name) is what he called it. Boys were bribed to turn Kings evidence at his trial by Lord Queensbury (He of the boxing Queensbury rules.) That was in 1895. Osca wilde was met at the Prison gates on his release by 'Robbie Ross' and Osca went to live in Paris where he died in 1900 of meningitis. Robbie died suddenly in 1917 age about 48 or 49.

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By: Jean-Paul

Jean-Paul — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:49:01 +0000

Brian, by the way I don't believe the Cretans were prone to pedophilia. I apologize if I made it sound that way. It was a bad choice of words, «adolescent», I mean, and I commend you for your normal reaction. The boys would have had to be in their late teens because the test was to jump backwards over a charging bull. Imagine how that would look on a curriculum vitae, eh!

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By: Jean-Paul

Jean-Paul — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:43:05 +0000

Brian, of course you're right. I'll check my references and get back to you. Who's Oscar Wilde?

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:04:34 +0000

Jean-Paul. Have you heard of Robbie Ross? A close friend and ex-lover of Oscar Wilde. You can read up about him on Wikipedia.

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:43:40 +0000

Jean-Paul, Thank you for your thoughts on us and the ancients. I would not have minded at all, a boy from Crete chasing me around the block! I did not like adults much when I was a kid. The main reason being, most of the men wanted to put a long, hard preasent in my little hot hand! once they had me by my self. Things they would be Jailed for nowadays. But, we kids were always too scared to mention such behaviour to enyone. But,liaisons followed later and were always great. By the way Jean-Paul, I'm sure I am right about Alexandrea (He was a few centuaries before Hadrian) the Roman Emperor. Hadrian's men built a wall in the North of England in the first centuary A.D. Hadrian's wall is still there. The wall was built to hold back the 'Wild Men From The North' The Scotish Clans ofcourse. Speaking of Romans, some school children, ages about 13-14, were asked what they knew about World War 2. They thought WW2 was when the Romans came! They do not teach kids modern history do they? So-Long for now Jean Paul.

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By: Jean-Paul

Jean-Paul — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:18:52 +0000

Brian: Regarding your comment dated March 12, I would be willing to listen to you till the cows come home simply because you are such a good listener yourself, and you obviously have taken the time to read about the gay phenomena from an historical perspective. Not everybody has. It doesn't matter that it was Hadrian, not Alexander, who lost his lover, Antinous, to the waters of the Nile. Same-sex relationships have been present at all times and in every culture. No civilization, except those influenced by a misinterpreted phrase or two from the Old Testament, has criminalized and persecuted us. For example, in Ancient Crete, adolescent boys were encouraged by their parents to compete for the attention of an older, well-established man, in order to become a valuable, committed and respected member of society. There too, the list goes on and on, and the cows are still a long, long way from home. Finally, I too do not want to be constantly reminded that I am gay; I am so much more than that. Warm regards.

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:55:04 +0000

Maybe Greg Barker is seeking sexual perfection? The answer is: Ar'nt we all!

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By: tom riddle

tom riddle — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:19:42 +0000

Greg Barker:one of the nicest MP's?! A man who hid he was gay from everyone, tricked a millionairess into marrying him then dumped her for a male designer and then dumped the designer for a 21 year old Greek boy? You have got to be kidding. At least we see he has been kept out of shadow cabinet by his 'pal' DC..maybe he will shuffle off soon.

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:51:45 +0000

I must admit that 'Gays,' over generations and even centuries have aquitted themselves rather magnificently in all walks of life. As far back as Alexandra The Great, who lost his male lover in a drowning accident while making war on Ejipt and all else in the known world at that time. In more modern times we have had a Secretary General of the United Nations Dag Hammerchold (died in plane crash) 'Your Country Needs You' General Kitchiner (killed 1917) Cecil Rhodes (Founder of now Zimbabwi) The Duke Of Kent (Killed 1942 in RAF Transport) I could go on untill the cows come home but I wont.

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By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:33:21 +0000

Who ever compiled this silly list should bear in mind the 'Nazi Blacklist' (it happened in my lifetime) People who were to be arrested if the Jerries did manage to invade us. Dear Noel Coward was on their 'Blacklist' as an 'Undesirable and Homosexual' Gay people do not want to be constantly reminded that they are Gay, they just want to get on with their lives.

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By: Colm Howard-Lloyd

Colm Howard-Lloyd — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:57:24 +0000

I assume describing Nick Brown MP as:

Gordon’s cheerleader cum enforcer

Is an unfortunate turn-of-phrase rather than a real job.

In all seriousness it would be useful to reveal Pink New's methodology in compiling the list. For example you rate some members of (albeit technically) non-political staff higher than some elected politicians. On what criteria are we basing the concept of power?

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By: Katie @ Lesbian Movie Reviews

Katie @ Lesbian Movie Reviews — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:58:39 +0000

I have lived in the UK as a lesbian for the last 15 years and I will tell you this. The people on your list may have at some time identified themselves as gay or lesbian but for the majority of them, they are really quite about this. What is the point of being the most influential people who are lesbian or gay if they, i.e most of the people on the list, are shy about their homosexuality

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