Comments on: Lesbians who have IVF win right to name partners on birth certificates http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:23:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Wolf http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45071 Wolf Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:56:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45071 Thanks Guys, I didnt know that. But yes I do have a problem with it to be honest. I think if someone uses a sperm donor it should either list the actual father or be left blank. Maybe there should be a seperate part of the form - one for biological and one for legal parents - that seems like a good way through it. I think most people dont know about this IVF thing. Im certainly not prejudiced against lesbians having kids - im gay and supportive of it - i just dont like the idea of a child not having its father and mother on a birth certificate. No matter how much we dont like it a child will always have a genetic father and a mother.... Thanks Guys, I didnt know that. But yes I do have a problem with it to be honest. I think if someone uses a sperm donor it should either list the actual father or be left blank. Maybe there should be a seperate part of the form – one for biological and one for legal parents – that seems like a good way through it. I think most people dont know about this IVF thing. Im certainly not prejudiced against lesbians having kids – im gay and supportive of it – i just dont like the idea of a child not having its father and mother on a birth certificate. No matter how much we dont like it a child will always have a genetic father and a mother….

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]]> By: Andrew Q http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45069 Andrew Q Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:44:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45069 If it is the same for straight couples then there is no problem. However I still think a child should know it has a mother and a father. If it is the same for straight couples then there is no problem. However I still think a child should know it has a mother and a father.

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]]> By: Andrew http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45050 Andrew Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:05:18 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45050 Wolf, it has never been the case that the father has had to prove his genetic linkage to the child - which is why fathers who's children are conceived by donor insemination are still named as the father on the birth certificate, despite technically having no biological relationship. Wolf, it has never been the case that the father has had to prove his genetic linkage to the child – which is why fathers who's children are conceived by donor insemination are still named as the father on the birth certificate, despite technically having no biological relationship.

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]]> By: valerio http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45043 valerio Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:36:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45043 Wolf, do you have the same reservation about heterosexual couples who use a sperm bank? Should they also name the sperm donor as the biological father of the child? Wolf, do you have the same reservation about heterosexual couples who use a sperm bank? Should they also name the sperm donor as the biological father of the child?

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]]> By: Wolf http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45042 Wolf Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:04:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45042 I totally have a problem with this. Im all for equal rights but a child biologically has a father and a mother. Are we so extreme that we now want to redefine nature? This is robbing a child of something. Im thrilled to have a child grow up within a loving gay relationship but wishing away one of its real parents is totally wrong. I think it's sinister and scary. I totally have a problem with this. Im all for equal rights but a child biologically has a father and a mother. Are we so extreme that we now want to redefine nature? This is robbing a child of something. Im thrilled to have a child grow up within a loving gay relationship but wishing away one of its real parents is totally wrong. I think it's sinister and scary.

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]]> By: valerio http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45033 valerio Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:04:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45033 If we look at this from a practical point of view, it simply means that both adults who chose to have and raise a child (ie. the parents) will be equally responsible for raising that child. I don't see it as such a controversial issue. If we look at this from a practical point of view, it simply means that both adults who chose to have and raise a child (ie. the parents) will be equally responsible for raising that child. I don't see it as such a controversial issue.

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]]> By: Andrew Q http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45029 Andrew Q Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:38:09 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45029 If that is the case then there is no problem. It has to work both ways. Having said that it kind of defeats the object of the birth certificate. If that is the case then there is no problem. It has to work both ways. Having said that it kind of defeats the object of the birth certificate.

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]]> By: Iris http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45022 Iris Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:12:07 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45022 Wasn't it the case that straight couples who used donor sperm could list the husband as the father on the birth certificate? I'm not sure, but I don't think this is an extra, gay-specific right - although obviously gay people will benefit. Wasn't it the case that straight couples who used donor sperm could list the husband as the father on the birth certificate? I'm not sure, but I don't think this is an extra, gay-specific right – although obviously gay people will benefit.

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]]> By: Andrew Q http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45019 Andrew Q Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:32:32 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-45019 I disagree with this. It's extra rights for gay people. Isn't this the type of thing straight people have a go at us for? I disagree with this. It's extra rights for gay people. Isn't this the type of thing straight people have a go at us for?

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]]> By: Charlene http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44993 Charlene Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:42:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11402.html#comment-44993 Is it the same for donor insemination? Is it the same for donor insemination?

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