Comments on: PinkNews.co.uk considers legal action over Google ban http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:23:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Rich http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45118 Rich Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:45:09 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-45118 My computers have never been infected by malware from PinkNews. Keep on keeping on PinkNews you are doing a great job :-) My computers have never been infected by malware from PinkNews. Keep on keeping on PinkNews you are doing a great job :-)

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]]> By: Rob http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44955 Rob Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:58:55 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44955 A couple of weeks back I made some very pertinent observations about HIV discrimination and how the HIV charities are so absorbed in protecting the feelings and rights of HIVers that they have forgotten that they also have a duty to prevent the spread of HIV among negative men. I was trying to make the point that perhaps this could have something to do with the soaring HIV rates of today, but my entire posting was pulled: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10956.html So, it seems Grew is more interested in keeping his Gay Mafia friends in the sexual health sector happy than he is of raising awareness among visitors to his site about why the spread HIV is out of control. So my heart is not exactly bleeding for Pink news right now, which is clearly as heavy handed and potentially biased as it accuses Google of being according to other posters who have also been censored. Pot, kettle and black are three words that spring to mind. Seems their is a concerted effort among the likes of Stonewall, Pink News et al to censor informed any reasonable and informed debate that ruffles the feathers of the ruling gay "elite" or does their bidding in turning the gay community into Orwellian thought police. Still, must be doing his ego proud to have appointed Pink News the pivotal lead "news" story this entire weekend... A couple of weeks back I made some very pertinent observations about HIV discrimination and how the HIV charities are so absorbed in protecting the feelings and rights of HIVers that they have forgotten that they also have a duty to prevent the spread of HIV among negative men. I was trying to make the point that perhaps this could have something to do with the soaring HIV rates of today, but my entire posting was pulled:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10956.html
So, it seems Grew is more interested in keeping his Gay Mafia friends in the sexual health sector happy than he is of raising awareness among visitors to his site about why the spread HIV is out of control. So my heart is not exactly bleeding for Pink news right now, which is clearly as heavy handed and potentially biased as it accuses Google of being according to other posters who have also been censored. Pot, kettle and black are three words that spring to mind.

Seems their is a concerted effort among the likes of Stonewall, Pink News et al to censor informed any reasonable and informed debate that ruffles the feathers of the ruling gay "elite" or does their bidding in turning the gay community into Orwellian thought police. Still, must be doing his ego proud to have appointed Pink News the pivotal lead "news" story this entire weekend…

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]]> By: Dave http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44945 Dave Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:26:07 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44945 I've had messages removed from the forum too, but at least Pink News allows <em>some</em> critical comments through. Try putting a message on the Daily Mail site critical of its editorial stance and see if that gets put up. Well I've tried several times and without much luck. And the Dail Mail is supposed to be all <em>for</em> free speech, isn't it? I've had messages removed from the forum too, but at least Pink News allows some critical comments through. Try putting a message on the Daily Mail site critical of its editorial stance and see if that gets put up. Well I've tried several times and without much luck. And the Dail Mail is supposed to be all for free speech, isn't it?

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]]> By: LaLaland http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44938 LaLaland Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:29:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44938 If Pinknews wasn't targeted I fail to understand the motivation to follow a legal suit at the behest of an honest, isolated mistake. If Pinknews wasn't targeted I fail to understand the motivation to follow a legal suit at the behest of an honest, isolated mistake.

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]]> By: Jay http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44936 Jay Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:51:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44936 Pinks news is just trying to get some free publicity, there is no case, because the site actually could still be accessed. If pinks news brings in so much revenue that they think they can go up against Google, then they should spend some money and hire better writers, and a graphic artist to fix the look of the site. Pinks news is just trying to get some free publicity, there is no case, because the site actually could still be accessed.

If pinks news brings in so much revenue that they think they can go up against Google, then they should spend some money and hire better writers, and a graphic artist to fix the look of the site.

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]]> By: John (Derbyshire http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44929 John (Derbyshire Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:39:39 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44929 C`mon everybody- Its PinkNews today- UK Gay News,Gay Times,Gaydar etc etc etc tomorrow!! All the problems of Google at the beginning of February were caused by just ONE person at Google typing the wrong thing! How do we know that a "born again Christian" working for Google isn`t deliberately trying to sabotage all gay sites? C`mon everybody- Its PinkNews today- UK Gay News,Gay Times,Gaydar etc etc etc tomorrow!! All the problems of Google at the beginning of February were caused by just ONE person at Google typing the wrong thing! How do we know that a "born again Christian" working for Google isn`t deliberately trying to sabotage all gay sites?

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]]> By: Eddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44914 Eddy Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:20:32 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44914 Anybody else still finding that their bookmark icon for PinkNews remains the Site Attack icon? (A red circle, like the no-entry road-sign.) Anybody else still finding that their bookmark icon for PinkNews remains the Site Attack icon? (A red circle, like the no-entry road-sign.)

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]]> By: Boi Polloi http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44889 Boi Polloi Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:43:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44889 I don't believe that Pink News was singled out in this case. The culprit sites listed was Auctiva.com, apparently I think linked through one of the bits of flash advertising on Pink News. I've had a similar problem in the same time span trying to brows Ebay using Google's Chrome browser, because Auctiva.com (which is in use by nearly every major Ebay reltailer) kept setting off malware detection, exactly the way it did with Pink News. Again, I don't believe it was a deliberate attack on Pink News, I think that leaving a computer to make all the malware decisions without a human element to prevent these things, it's bound to happen sometime. I don't believe that Pink News was singled out in this case. The culprit sites listed was Auctiva.com, apparently I think linked through one of the bits of flash advertising on Pink News. I've had a similar problem in the same time span trying to brows Ebay using Google's Chrome browser, because Auctiva.com (which is in use by nearly every major Ebay reltailer) kept setting off malware detection, exactly the way it did with Pink News.

Again, I don't believe it was a deliberate attack on Pink News, I think that leaving a computer to make all the malware decisions without a human element to prevent these things, it's bound to happen sometime.

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]]> By: Zefrog http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44884 Zefrog Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:03:27 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44884 We weren't deprived of anything. Access wasn't blocked. it was simply preceded by a warning screen. Annoying, I admit (having to do one extra click to get to the desired page) but nothing warrantying such a fuss... We weren't deprived of anything. Access wasn't blocked. it was simply preceded by a warning screen. Annoying, I admit (having to do one extra click to get to the desired page) but nothing warrantying such a fuss…

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]]> By: wossname http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44882 wossname Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:50:32 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44882 "The LGBT community has also been deprived of its most trusted source of news, reducing freedom of speech online." Really? What about UK Gay News then? The only advantage pink news have is that we are allowed to comment to news items. "The LGBT community has also been deprived of its most trusted source of news, reducing freedom of speech online."
Really? What about UK Gay News then? The only advantage pink news have is that we are allowed to comment to news items.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44881 Steve Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:12:58 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44881 I cannot say that I am surprised. A common feature of most ISPs is their selective censorship: removing gay sites on grounds of indecency when Christian's complain whilst leaving heterosexual sites of a similar nature untouched. Google simply continues to apply the same double standard. I don't expect anything to change. Google are not subject, to my knowledge, to UK law, and therefore at liberty to discriminate in any way they wish. I cannot say that I am surprised. A common feature of most ISPs is their selective censorship: removing gay sites on grounds of indecency when Christian's complain whilst leaving heterosexual sites of a similar nature untouched. Google simply continues to apply the same double standard. I don't expect anything to change. Google are not subject, to my knowledge, to UK law, and therefore at liberty to discriminate in any way they wish.

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]]> By: Rob http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44872 Rob Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:33:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44872 Hey, I was in LA for the Elton John AIDS Foundation party (ooh, namedropper!) and I had no trouble accessing my usual source of pink news from here on both Safari and Firefox. Then again, I am a Mac user... Hey, I was in LA for the Elton John AIDS Foundation party (ooh, namedropper!) and I had no trouble accessing my usual source of pink news from here on both Safari and Firefox. Then again, I am a Mac user…

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]]> By: Simon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44871 Simon Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:28:42 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44871 ursus262, I'm afraid you don't have any rights on a private website owned by a company, of which you are not a director! If you want to leave a comment, it's your prerogative. If they want to delete or edit the comment in line with their editorial policy, it's up to them. I do agree with the earlier comment about not wasting legal fees trying to chase Google. They are a law unto themselves, and I really think Pink News should forget about legal proceedings. By all means shout and complain until you get a satisfactory response, but it's unfortunately one of those things - like DNS records being screwed up and causing the same outage for two days. As a web developer, I would hazard a guess at the embedded ad platforms on this site, as Tom has already suggested. ursus262, I'm afraid you don't have any rights on a private website owned by a company, of which you are not a director! If you want to leave a comment, it's your prerogative. If they want to delete or edit the comment in line with their editorial policy, it's up to them.

I do agree with the earlier comment about not wasting legal fees trying to chase Google. They are a law unto themselves, and I really think Pink News should forget about legal proceedings. By all means shout and complain until you get a satisfactory response, but it's unfortunately one of those things – like DNS records being screwed up and causing the same outage for two days.

As a web developer, I would hazard a guess at the embedded ad platforms on this site, as Tom has already suggested.

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]]> By: Rob http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44870 Rob Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:18:39 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44870 Will there be any report on Pink News about the recent Lesbian and Gay Foundation employment tribunal? In which more than ten past employers, incuding a former trustee gave evidence against the LGF and in support of two ex employees who claimed age discrimination and unfair dismissal. This is a very significant story but there is a growing feeling in Manchester that this is being hushed up by the media. Why haven't you reported it? Will there be any report on Pink News about the recent Lesbian and Gay Foundation employment tribunal? In which more than ten past employers, incuding a former trustee gave evidence against the LGF and in support of two ex employees who claimed age discrimination and unfair dismissal.

This is a very significant story but there is a growing feeling in Manchester that this is being hushed up by the media.

Why haven't you reported it?

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]]> By: rossy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44867 rossy Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:03:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44867 http://groups.google.com/group/stopbadware/web/website-vulnerability-scanners Often these kind of vulnerabilities are due to injection, perhaps once you have exhausted all the resources in the above group you might be certain that the site is free from malware... http://groups.google.com/group/stopbadware/web/website-vulnerability-scanners

Often these kind of vulnerabilities are due to injection, perhaps once you have exhausted all the resources in the above group you might be certain that the site is free from malware…

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]]> By: matt http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44861 matt Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:35:07 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44861 you must be mad to up against a company like goggle, pink news is very very small and goggle very very big they will destroy pink news you must be mad to up against a company like goggle, pink news is very very small and goggle very very big they will destroy pink news

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]]> By: Tom http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44860 Tom Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:17:53 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44860 This must only have happened in Europe or the United Kingdom. I never did experience any difficulty in receiving Pink News -- although there is one site (not related) that has a caveat before I open it. I'm curious why you guys should be banned over there and not over here, as this side of the pond is notoriously more phobic about just about anything. This must only have happened in Europe or the United Kingdom. I never did experience any difficulty in receiving Pink News — although there is one site (not related) that has a caveat before I open it. I'm curious why you guys should be banned over there and not over here, as this side of the pond is notoriously more phobic about just about anything.

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]]> By: Ludo http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44852 Ludo Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:26:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44852 Working with Windows IE and have any problem while using Google Search Bar. Even McAfee Siteadvisor signs green (= no problem). Working with Windows IE and have any problem while using Google Search Bar. Even McAfee Siteadvisor signs green (= no problem).

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]]> By: Jeremy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44840 Jeremy Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:39:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44840 I use Firefox and didn't have any issues, was this problem only on Windows? I'm using OpenSuse Linux. I use Firefox and didn't have any issues, was this problem only on Windows? I'm using OpenSuse Linux.

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]]> By: tom http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html/comment-page-1/#comment-44837 tom Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:26:52 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11376.html#comment-44837 PInknews lack of understanding on security issues is beyond funny. A cross site scripting vulnerability would not show on any virus scan and could disappear without any action from pinknews for example if the scripting error or user input allowed a remote include of file and subsequently the file was removed on the remote server or the remote server was down. This kind of vulnerability is very dangerous and very hard to detect . It happens when user input is not correctly filtered. Crackers/hackers can use this to add trojans to innocent websites without their knowledge or even redirect all or certain users away from the website without anyone discovering the fact (a clever form of phishing). PInknews lack of understanding on security issues is beyond funny. A cross site scripting vulnerability would not show on any virus scan and could disappear without any action from pinknews for example if the scripting error or user input allowed a remote include of file and subsequently the file was removed on the remote server or the remote server was down. This kind of vulnerability is very dangerous and very hard to detect . It happens when user input is not correctly filtered. Crackers/hackers can use this to add trojans to innocent websites without their knowledge or even redirect all or certain users away from the website without anyone discovering the fact (a clever form of phishing).

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