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	<title>Comments on: Video: Fitlads owner&#039;s rant at &quot;fat pig&quot; Jade Goody angers subscribers</title>
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		<title>By: ursus262</title>
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		<dc:creator>ursus262</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the above with some interest, because I have mixed feelings about Jade Goody.  For ages, I have uttered every name under the sun to my partner about this woman, and yet, as she faces death, my feelings towards her have changed such that I feel nothing but compassion for her.  What does that make me?  A hypocrite; or someone who learns from changing circumstances?

I must admit to not really liking her very much.  She is a borderline, racist bully (or at least she was), but she is now dying from a terrible disease and two young boys are losing their mother.  Jade Goody, like the rest of us, are products of our upbringing and environment - nothing more and nothing less.

Joe Hill&#039;s insults may hit the nail on the head, but were unkind and cruel given the situation Jade finds herself in.  I, too, believe in free speech, but there is also a certain virtue in knowing what to leave unsaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the above with some interest, because I have mixed feelings about Jade Goody.  For ages, I have uttered every name under the sun to my partner about this woman, and yet, as she faces death, my feelings towards her have changed such that I feel nothing but compassion for her.  What does that make me?  A hypocrite; or someone who learns from changing circumstances?</p>
<p>I must admit to not really liking her very much.  She is a borderline, racist bully (or at least she was), but she is now dying from a terrible disease and two young boys are losing their mother.  Jade Goody, like the rest of us, are products of our upbringing and environment &#8211; nothing more and nothing less.</p>
<p>Joe Hill's insults may hit the nail on the head, but were unkind and cruel given the situation Jade finds herself in.  I, too, believe in free speech, but there is also a certain virtue in knowing what to leave unsaid.
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		<title>By: polly styrene</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is hate speech. Even if Joe Hill wants to attack Jade Goody&#039;s decision to make money from publicity - and she is not having her death filmed at all- it&#039;s not necessary to make the point with such misogynist language. All Mr Hill is doing is reinforcing the view that gay men are misogynist. No, not all gay men are, but he&#039;s not helping matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is hate speech. Even if Joe Hill wants to attack Jade Goody's decision to make money from publicity &#8211; and she is not having her death filmed at all- it's not necessary to make the point with such misogynist language. All Mr Hill is doing is reinforcing the view that gay men are misogynist. No, not all gay men are, but he's not helping matters.
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		<title>By: Small Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Small Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, you should remember that it was the fairtrade coffee drinking labour supporting vegetarians (along with their working class brothers and sisters) who helped repeal the anti-gay legislation which helped give gay people the freedoms they enjoy today. Dont bite the hand that feeds I say. And if someone is dying its best to keep your hateful opinions to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, you should remember that it was the fairtrade coffee drinking labour supporting vegetarians (along with their working class brothers and sisters) who helped repeal the anti-gay legislation which helped give gay people the freedoms they enjoy today. Dont bite the hand that feeds I say. And if someone is dying its best to keep your hateful opinions to yourself.
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		<title>By: Dan F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it&#039;s a very tragic situation for anyone to be in. And everyone deals with it in different ways. What we shouldn&#039;t now do is slate a person who is just ticking till her death as she does not need this on top of everything. I agree with freedome of speech but when your freedome becomes insulting, when what you say causes people to feel hurt then why say things at all? The whole point of the freedome to speak was to encourage debate and open up a conversation as to whey that person feels that way? With this &quot;thick lad&quot; going onto Youtube, using is mobile phone to tape crap comments is an insult to all gays! What he said has come across as bitchy, immature and wrong. From a man that brings us a website that encourages open sex, with photo&#039;s of penis&#039;s all over the place. What right does he have to call her a fat media whore pig! I think someone now needs a p45 check!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it's a very tragic situation for anyone to be in. And everyone deals with it in different ways. What we shouldn't now do is slate a person who is just ticking till her death as she does not need this on top of everything. I agree with freedome of speech but when your freedome becomes insulting, when what you say causes people to feel hurt then why say things at all? The whole point of the freedome to speak was to encourage debate and open up a conversation as to whey that person feels that way? With this "thick lad" going onto Youtube, using is mobile phone to tape crap comments is an insult to all gays! What he said has come across as bitchy, immature and wrong. From a man that brings us a website that encourages open sex, with photo's of penis's all over the place. What right does he have to call her a fat media whore pig! I think someone now needs a p45 check!
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has reached national now, its all over facebook and is to be in the papers apparantly! Some nice free publicity for him!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has reached national now, its all over facebook and is to be in the papers apparantly! Some nice free publicity for him!!
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was not joe having an option.. i think this was a attempt to get his website some free time in the news.. why else say  &quot;hi this is joe from fitlads&quot; 

the website often lets people get away with sick threats, attacks and bullying against hiv+ people.. they always turn a blind eye.. this is the same to racist comments.

its a shame as david (the other owner) is such a nice guy and joe is a prat....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was not joe having an option.. i think this was a attempt to get his website some free time in the news.. why else say  "hi this is joe from fitlads" </p>
<p>the website often lets people get away with sick threats, attacks and bullying against hiv+ people.. they always turn a blind eye.. this is the same to racist comments.</p>
<p>its a shame as david (the other owner) is such a nice guy and joe is a prat&#8230;.
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		<title>By: Julien Woolley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julien Woolley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my previous comments, and to retort to the doomsayers:  What you have to remember is that with the Freedom of Speech that we have comes the responsibility to use it wisely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my previous comments, and to retort to the doomsayers:  What you have to remember is that with the Freedom of Speech that we have comes the responsibility to use it wisely!
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you, the Pink News, and other contributors to this &#039;debate&#039; have rather over egged the pudding.

Your headline reads &quot;angers subscribers&quot;, but in fact, as a member of the site I&#039;ve mainly seen a 20% of forum contributors make public complaints, and most of those people still use the site (It&#039;s a minority of users that use the forums anyway, so it&#039;s an unreliable method of gauging what people really think).

Simply, while this was a slightly misguided business move, it basically boiled down to one mans point of view - something to which we are all entitled, within legal reason. The ensuing fuss was created by a few gay people, from fitlads and rival sites for the purpose of a &quot;fabulous drama&quot;. It appears as if the reporting of this is basically part of the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you, the Pink News, and other contributors to this 'debate' have rather over egged the pudding.</p>
<p>Your headline reads "angers subscribers", but in fact, as a member of the site I've mainly seen a 20% of forum contributors make public complaints, and most of those people still use the site (It's a minority of users that use the forums anyway, so it's an unreliable method of gauging what people really think).</p>
<p>Simply, while this was a slightly misguided business move, it basically boiled down to one mans point of view &#8211; something to which we are all entitled, within legal reason. The ensuing fuss was created by a few gay people, from fitlads and rival sites for the purpose of a "fabulous drama". It appears as if the reporting of this is basically part of the same thing.
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t watch Big Brother. I could hardly not hear about the racist slurs attributed to Jade. I haven&#039;t seen the TV show, but I have seen a short clip on BBC Breakfast news. I don&#039;t think that she has become a saint, I don&#039;t like biggotry in any form and would frankly not want to know her. That said I think that raising awareness of this largely preventable disease, and spreading the message that women should be screened can only be a good thing.  I personally do not want to see the spectical of her dying on the television, but I do think that the debate that it has provoked is important. 

I think that everyone has the right to express their opinion. I also think that linking that opinion with someone&#039;s orientation and a &#039;gay&#039; website is regretable. I think that the comments were rude, unnecasary and the same points could have been put in language that was not offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn't watch Big Brother. I could hardly not hear about the racist slurs attributed to Jade. I haven't seen the TV show, but I have seen a short clip on BBC Breakfast news. I don't think that she has become a saint, I don't like biggotry in any form and would frankly not want to know her. That said I think that raising awareness of this largely preventable disease, and spreading the message that women should be screened can only be a good thing.  I personally do not want to see the spectical of her dying on the television, but I do think that the debate that it has provoked is important. </p>
<p>I think that everyone has the right to express their opinion. I also think that linking that opinion with someone's orientation and a 'gay' website is regretable. I think that the comments were rude, unnecasary and the same points could have been put in language that was not offensive.
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hate breeds hate, how can we complain about people hating us when people like him think its ok to hate someone for making a living out of being famous for 15 minutes, he&#039;s probably jealous. Whatever my personal opinion is of Jade, I wish her and her family well at this difficult time. XX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hate breeds hate, how can we complain about people hating us when people like him think its ok to hate someone for making a living out of being famous for 15 minutes, he's probably jealous. Whatever my personal opinion is of Jade, I wish her and her family well at this difficult time. XX
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Steve does it make you feel good slagging off a dying woman on a blog????  Sitting at your computer typing away - COWARD!!  You&#039;re as pathetic as Mr Hill.  What amazes me is the way you &amp; Mr Hill &amp; others voice your so called &quot;opionions&quot;.  What happened to being articulate, sensitive, intelligent &amp; well informed.  God it must have taken so long to come up with the words hag, whore, vulgar, tacky!!!

You are directing comments like this at all cancer sufferers in my opionion.  Yes Jade is making money out of her illness SO WHAT.  The photographers would be hounding her anyway &amp; the papers would be making up their own stories so why shouldnt she make the money by doing things her way.  If she wasnt making the money someone else would. Any celeb suffering any illness get some sort of publicity, that is just the way it is.

The big picture here is Mr Hill blatanly used this situation to advetise his site.  He could have went on saying i am Mr Hill &amp; here are my constructive points.  But he didnt he wanted the shock factor &amp; to mention his site.

By the way Steve i am a strong believer in what goes around comes around &amp; i think wishing someone dead quicker than they are meant to die is the lowest of the low.  How would you feel if that was your relative.

If this was someone posting a rant like this about gay people using all the most horrible words you have encountered in your life that would be different i bet.  If this was someone using as many abusive racists remarks as they could they would be arrested.

That is what i hate about this country............too many people willing to kick you when you are down.  At the end of the day i am sure Jade has better things to worry about than some bitter, sad, twisted, pathetic, cowardly queens!!  Oh look at that i can use adjectives too!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Steve does it make you feel good slagging off a dying woman on a blog????  Sitting at your computer typing away &#8211; COWARD!!  You're as pathetic as Mr Hill.  What amazes me is the way you &amp; Mr Hill &amp; others voice your so called "opionions".  What happened to being articulate, sensitive, intelligent &amp; well informed.  God it must have taken so long to come up with the words hag, whore, vulgar, tacky!!!</p>
<p>You are directing comments like this at all cancer sufferers in my opionion.  Yes Jade is making money out of her illness SO WHAT.  The photographers would be hounding her anyway &amp; the papers would be making up their own stories so why shouldnt she make the money by doing things her way.  If she wasnt making the money someone else would. Any celeb suffering any illness get some sort of publicity, that is just the way it is.</p>
<p>The big picture here is Mr Hill blatanly used this situation to advetise his site.  He could have went on saying i am Mr Hill &amp; here are my constructive points.  But he didnt he wanted the shock factor &amp; to mention his site.</p>
<p>By the way Steve i am a strong believer in what goes around comes around &amp; i think wishing someone dead quicker than they are meant to die is the lowest of the low.  How would you feel if that was your relative.</p>
<p>If this was someone posting a rant like this about gay people using all the most horrible words you have encountered in your life that would be different i bet.  If this was someone using as many abusive racists remarks as they could they would be arrested.</p>
<p>That is what i hate about this country&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;too many people willing to kick you when you are down.  At the end of the day i am sure Jade has better things to worry about than some bitter, sad, twisted, pathetic, cowardly queens!!  Oh look at that i can use adjectives too!!
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		<title>By: Flapjack</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because you have freedom of speech, doesn&#039;t make it any more acceptable to abuse it by calling people abusive names on their deathbed. If you really think that&#039;s acceptable behaviour, why not pich up at you local hospice and call all the terminal cancer and AIDS patients &quot;Bitch&quot;, &quot;whore&quot; and &quot;troll&quot;. If you&#039;re lucky they might assume it&#039;s a Tourrettes awareness campaign. If you don&#039;t have Tourettes, it just makes you look like an ignorant arse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you have freedom of speech, doesn't make it any more acceptable to abuse it by calling people abusive names on their deathbed. If you really think that's acceptable behaviour, why not pich up at you local hospice and call all the terminal cancer and AIDS patients "Bitch", "whore" and "troll". If you're lucky they might assume it's a Tourrettes awareness campaign. If you don't have Tourettes, it just makes you look like an ignorant arse.
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Julie.  Mr Hill obviously have idea how the media works.  He certainly has very little business acumen to be talking in such derogatory terms on behalf of his website.

Good on Jade Goody for harnessing the media and controlling it to achieve her aims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Julie.  Mr Hill obviously have idea how the media works.  He certainly has very little business acumen to be talking in such derogatory terms on behalf of his website.</p>
<p>Good on Jade Goody for harnessing the media and controlling it to achieve her aims.
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Godwyns...........why did Joe have to say it is Joe Hill from Fitlads?  Purley using an issue, ie, Jade with Cancer &amp; her publicity &amp; using this to gain publicity for himself.  No if ands or buts.  This is a contradiction.  It is ok for him to use the situation for his own gain but not for Jade.  This was not an opinion, it was a vicious verbal attack to get him attention.

I am sorry but i would feel like this about anybody saying this not just a gay man.  He is the one who mentioned Fitlads in his rant.  I just think that for a gay man he has probably encountered his fair share of hate so why unleash such hatred on a dying woman. To be honest he has no right to talk about anyone&#039;s looks.

I do believe in the last figure quoted in the press that the requests for cervical smear tests have gone up by about 20% since Jade was in the news.  So out of all those women there could be many who get abnormal results &amp; get their treatment quicker &amp; in the end go onto live a normal life. This IS a good thing.  I for one have booked my smear test which is over due.  Off course Jade is raising awareness.

I didnt see Kylie Minogue getting slated for raising breast cancer awareness or giving interviews about her cancer.  Sharon Osbourne had her treatment for bowel cancer filmed for MTV (&amp; made a ton of cash at the same time) but right enough if Joe Hill had made those comments about her i am sure Sharon would have hunted him down &amp; tore his nuts off.........that&#039;s if he has any!!

At the end of the day some people have never liked Jade &amp; this is just another way to stick it to her in death as they did when she was alive. Trouble is i think people like Joe Hill are the last thing on her mind &amp; quite right.  I am sure he will be happy to hear that she may even get £3M for her wedding pics, has had a wedding dress donated by Harrods &amp; Elton John offering his house for the wedding.  

The press would have been there regardless of whether she agreed or not.  Yes normal people in society are suffering from cancer &amp; are just as brave as Jade....my Dad, Grandad &amp; Gran all died from the disease but i am not bitter about what Jade is doing.  I would do the same if i had to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Godwyns&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..why did Joe have to say it is Joe Hill from Fitlads?  Purley using an issue, ie, Jade with Cancer &amp; her publicity &amp; using this to gain publicity for himself.  No if ands or buts.  This is a contradiction.  It is ok for him to use the situation for his own gain but not for Jade.  This was not an opinion, it was a vicious verbal attack to get him attention.</p>
<p>I am sorry but i would feel like this about anybody saying this not just a gay man.  He is the one who mentioned Fitlads in his rant.  I just think that for a gay man he has probably encountered his fair share of hate so why unleash such hatred on a dying woman. To be honest he has no right to talk about anyone's looks.</p>
<p>I do believe in the last figure quoted in the press that the requests for cervical smear tests have gone up by about 20% since Jade was in the news.  So out of all those women there could be many who get abnormal results &amp; get their treatment quicker &amp; in the end go onto live a normal life. This IS a good thing.  I for one have booked my smear test which is over due.  Off course Jade is raising awareness.</p>
<p>I didnt see Kylie Minogue getting slated for raising breast cancer awareness or giving interviews about her cancer.  Sharon Osbourne had her treatment for bowel cancer filmed for MTV (&amp; made a ton of cash at the same time) but right enough if Joe Hill had made those comments about her i am sure Sharon would have hunted him down &amp; tore his nuts off&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;that's if he has any!!</p>
<p>At the end of the day some people have never liked Jade &amp; this is just another way to stick it to her in death as they did when she was alive. Trouble is i think people like Joe Hill are the last thing on her mind &amp; quite right.  I am sure he will be happy to hear that she may even get £3M for her wedding pics, has had a wedding dress donated by Harrods &amp; Elton John offering his house for the wedding.  </p>
<p>The press would have been there regardless of whether she agreed or not.  Yes normal people in society are suffering from cancer &amp; are just as brave as Jade&#8230;.my Dad, Grandad &amp; Gran all died from the disease but i am not bitter about what Jade is doing.  I would do the same if i had to.
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best comment by far by &#039;CP&#039; - &quot;Yet again gay men excelling themselves at being bitchy, shallow and insensitive.&quot; 

These rants against Jade are revolting, and yes, it&#039;s just hatred. That poor woman and her kids. Are you perfect? Would you like to have cancer and receive comments like those? Exactly.

Be ashamed of yourselves, haters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best comment by far by 'CP' &#8211; "Yet again gay men excelling themselves at being bitchy, shallow and insensitive." </p>
<p>These rants against Jade are revolting, and yes, it's just hatred. That poor woman and her kids. Are you perfect? Would you like to have cancer and receive comments like those? Exactly.</p>
<p>Be ashamed of yourselves, haters.
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		<title>By: Godwyns</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a gay man and cant understand why those who term their-selves wise by castigating Joe Hill are attacking the &#039;gay&#039; community - wherever that is. If a heterosexual said this, would it be slammed the &#039;Heterosexual&#039; community and would it represent the entire non-gay people&#039;s opinion. 

Now, to the crux of the matter; I think, like most people agreed, Joe Hill has his opinion and its entitled to it. But the fact remains that he has said the truth when it comes to this issue. For those praising Jade, claiming she has raised awareness, even to the point of saying she has saved lives - blah!! - get your facts right. 

First and foremost, there are many living with and suffering same pain and my heart goes out to all of them including Ms. Goody. But why make yours seem like others aren&#039;t going through pain? Why blow it in everyone&#039;s face? Why make it news? Are we supposed to be jumping and clapping or wetting the newspapers with out tears? I have sat in my room and cried my eye out for the suffering of, not just Ms. Goody but for others like in same painful position. And I have felt the pain of this disease when my ex-boyfriend&#039;s best friend had same illness. So pestering it in everybody&#039;s face isn’t the main thing. 

This seems like someone selling their soul and organs. Her kids deserve (the best) education and I do agree but must they have it at the peril of their losing their mother? 

Talking of awareness, the real awareness still stands and remains with those who sacrifice to make them. A lot of people are out there volunteering their time, energy, and living in worst places; how much of their praise do we sing? How much of their pictures do we take. Which is why Joe Hill&#039;s comment is great because we are in Britain hiding the truth and everyone trying to appear as angels when we are not. What&#039;s wrong about someone saying the truth we all fear to say just because of damn political correctness. The same evil that is making each one of us suffer immensely of various things that can not be said. 

If Jade Goody had been black, then Joe Hill would have been laid on the alter of racism; cant we just pull ourselves together and call a spade a spade?

The only evil of Joe Hill&#039;s comment is using vile languages which I disagree with. Jade Goody nor anyone deserves to be called a pig, or a cow because they are humans. And also he is wrong calling people vegetarians and labour-voting because, again, like him, it is those peoples&#039; right to vote whom they like or eat what they like, vice versa.

Yet, we must allow one man the freedom of his own opinion. He has not influenced hate. After all, most of you out there are haters. Joe Hill&#039;s opinion does not represent any other gay man or woman&#039;s opinion but himself alone. We the gay people are our individual selves and have our personal opinion. 

For you who judge him basing on his sexuality or his business, you are also not right because opinions of this level are not supposed to be taken into that contest. And its time you all righteous people reduce your discrimination and segregation and let people be. 

I and many others wish Ms Goody well and wish her ordeal take a turn for the better but even in my sympathy, I do not subscribe to her flaunting it in the press because it completely de-robes dignity to life and paints a picture that she isn’t even anything as sorry for herself as most of you celebrity worshippers seem to be - although we are also very aware that you lot who worship them are completely brainless and lacks substance. If you are not, you wont be showing off crocodile tears and passions and forgetting them once they lose the limelight. All because they are object of entertainment to you instead of human beings.

Just you all spare me your empty howl. If you like and commiserate with cancer patients - as that is the en-vogue mercy now anyway, - then there are thousand of others suffering from it. Go in and volunteer with cancer charities who are in need of helpers in their shops and to raise money. 

Go out there and do something your tasteless tears and give it value than being pots that call kettle black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a gay man and cant understand why those who term their-selves wise by castigating Joe Hill are attacking the 'gay' community &#8211; wherever that is. If a heterosexual said this, would it be slammed the 'Heterosexual' community and would it represent the entire non-gay people's opinion. </p>
<p>Now, to the crux of the matter; I think, like most people agreed, Joe Hill has his opinion and its entitled to it. But the fact remains that he has said the truth when it comes to this issue. For those praising Jade, claiming she has raised awareness, even to the point of saying she has saved lives &#8211; blah!! &#8211; get your facts right. </p>
<p>First and foremost, there are many living with and suffering same pain and my heart goes out to all of them including Ms. Goody. But why make yours seem like others aren't going through pain? Why blow it in everyone's face? Why make it news? Are we supposed to be jumping and clapping or wetting the newspapers with out tears? I have sat in my room and cried my eye out for the suffering of, not just Ms. Goody but for others like in same painful position. And I have felt the pain of this disease when my ex-boyfriend's best friend had same illness. So pestering it in everybody's face isn’t the main thing. </p>
<p>This seems like someone selling their soul and organs. Her kids deserve (the best) education and I do agree but must they have it at the peril of their losing their mother? </p>
<p>Talking of awareness, the real awareness still stands and remains with those who sacrifice to make them. A lot of people are out there volunteering their time, energy, and living in worst places; how much of their praise do we sing? How much of their pictures do we take. Which is why Joe Hill's comment is great because we are in Britain hiding the truth and everyone trying to appear as angels when we are not. What's wrong about someone saying the truth we all fear to say just because of damn political correctness. The same evil that is making each one of us suffer immensely of various things that can not be said. </p>
<p>If Jade Goody had been black, then Joe Hill would have been laid on the alter of racism; cant we just pull ourselves together and call a spade a spade?</p>
<p>The only evil of Joe Hill's comment is using vile languages which I disagree with. Jade Goody nor anyone deserves to be called a pig, or a cow because they are humans. And also he is wrong calling people vegetarians and labour-voting because, again, like him, it is those peoples' right to vote whom they like or eat what they like, vice versa.</p>
<p>Yet, we must allow one man the freedom of his own opinion. He has not influenced hate. After all, most of you out there are haters. Joe Hill's opinion does not represent any other gay man or woman's opinion but himself alone. We the gay people are our individual selves and have our personal opinion. </p>
<p>For you who judge him basing on his sexuality or his business, you are also not right because opinions of this level are not supposed to be taken into that contest. And its time you all righteous people reduce your discrimination and segregation and let people be. </p>
<p>I and many others wish Ms Goody well and wish her ordeal take a turn for the better but even in my sympathy, I do not subscribe to her flaunting it in the press because it completely de-robes dignity to life and paints a picture that she isn’t even anything as sorry for herself as most of you celebrity worshippers seem to be &#8211; although we are also very aware that you lot who worship them are completely brainless and lacks substance. If you are not, you wont be showing off crocodile tears and passions and forgetting them once they lose the limelight. All because they are object of entertainment to you instead of human beings.</p>
<p>Just you all spare me your empty howl. If you like and commiserate with cancer patients &#8211; as that is the en-vogue mercy now anyway, &#8211; then there are thousand of others suffering from it. Go in and volunteer with cancer charities who are in need of helpers in their shops and to raise money. </p>
<p>Go out there and do something your tasteless tears and give it value than being pots that call kettle black.
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		<title>By: Laura maguire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura maguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay. It IS news when a member of the Gay Community uses a public platform to make a Hate Speech about a woman (any woman, I am not interested who)dying of cervical cancer. A member of the Gay Community using the publicity gleaned from that speech to garner publicity for his website, which he promotes on his youtube page. He even announces that he is &quot;Joe form Fitlads&quot; at the begining.Is he saying that the views he holds are representative of all members of Fitlads? That IS news to me...and I&#039;ll be interested to read PinkNews&#039; response to this and the fallout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay. It IS news when a member of the Gay Community uses a public platform to make a Hate Speech about a woman (any woman, I am not interested who)dying of cervical cancer. A member of the Gay Community using the publicity gleaned from that speech to garner publicity for his website, which he promotes on his youtube page. He even announces that he is "Joe form Fitlads" at the begining.Is he saying that the views he holds are representative of all members of Fitlads? That IS news to me&#8230;and I'll be interested to read PinkNews' response to this and the fallout.
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not news. It&#039;s not important. It&#039;s not even interesting. I don&#039;t know or care who either of these people are. Surely there&#039;s actual gay news out there somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not news. It's not important. It's not even interesting. I don't know or care who either of these people are. Surely there's actual gay news out there somewhere.
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		<title>By: Laura maguire</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Joe hill is actually doing is promoting hatred. 

By calling a woman with terminal cervical cancer &quot;fat&quot;, a &quot;cow&quot;, a &quot;fat pig&quot;, and using  visual parenthesis when he describes her as a woman, he is making a Hate Speech against women whos very identity, self-perceived sexuality and femininity can be affected by this disease. Is he aware, for example, that a symptom of cervical cancer in the late stages, is swelling of the abdomen, giving a round &quot;fat&quot; appearance?. So losing hair, swelling, loss of fertility, the end of natural hormone production - all tough right to cope with right? Now imagine how tough is it to hear that Mr Hill thinks a woman dying of cervical cancer is all of these terrible things? Thinks it and feels the need to publicly state it on youtube. PinkNews should be looking to revisit this story from another angle.

He has caused more offence and has caused MUCH more damage to women with cancer than Jade goody could ever do. Something has to be done about this video. youtube must take some responsibility for the content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Joe hill is actually doing is promoting hatred. </p>
<p>By calling a woman with terminal cervical cancer "fat", a "cow", a "fat pig", and using  visual parenthesis when he describes her as a woman, he is making a Hate Speech against women whos very identity, self-perceived sexuality and femininity can be affected by this disease. Is he aware, for example, that a symptom of cervical cancer in the late stages, is swelling of the abdomen, giving a round "fat" appearance?. So losing hair, swelling, loss of fertility, the end of natural hormone production &#8211; all tough right to cope with right? Now imagine how tough is it to hear that Mr Hill thinks a woman dying of cervical cancer is all of these terrible things? Thinks it and feels the need to publicly state it on youtube. PinkNews should be looking to revisit this story from another angle.</p>
<p>He has caused more offence and has caused MUCH more damage to women with cancer than Jade goody could ever do. Something has to be done about this video. youtube must take some responsibility for the content.
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Simon.........totally mis-read that comment!!  Apologises.  At least i can admit i was wrong, lol, take heed Joe Hill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Simon&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;totally mis-read that comment!!  Apologises.  At least i can admit i was wrong, lol, take heed Joe Hill.
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