Comments on: 'So Macho' preacher hits back with bus adverts claiming God exists http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:29:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-45327 John Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:57:54 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-45327 It'll be on the tube next! Yes indeed...where is the proof! Water to wine, a loaf to feed thousands, put a staff into the sea and watch it part in two! I would love to know how all these things are done, especially over 2000 years ago! or were they all taken in by the biggest illusionist of their time! He was proberbly 'So Macho' about it! It'll be on the tube next! Yes indeed…where is the proof! Water to wine, a loaf to feed thousands, put a staff into the sea and watch it part in two! I would love to know how all these things are done, especially over 2000 years ago! or were they all taken in by the biggest illusionist of their time! He was proberbly 'So Macho' about it!

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]]> By: tony http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43568 tony Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:22:36 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43568 Please all send a quick email to the ASA to register a complaint. The address to email is new.complaints@asa.org.uk Please all send a quick email to the ASA to register a complaint. The address to email is new.complaints@asa.org.uk

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]]> By: tony http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43527 tony Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:31:21 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43527 If some of the more unpalatable quotes from the bible were put on buses then it would turn a lot of people off Christianity. Perhaps some of the stuff about how disabled people or menstruating women are unclean and should not be allowed to go into church... If some of the more unpalatable quotes from the bible were put on buses then it would turn a lot of people off Christianity. Perhaps some of the stuff about how disabled people or menstruating women are unclean and should not be allowed to go into church…

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]]> By: Flapjack http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43467 Flapjack Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:37:07 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43467 RJB - I think the holy trinity is totally inspired by buses... you wait forever for a sign of the devine, then 3 come at once ;) I'll get my coat! RJB – I think the holy trinity is totally inspired by buses… you wait forever for a sign of the devine, then 3 come at once ;)
I'll get my coat!

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]]> By: rjb http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43460 rjb Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:19:12 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43460 How exactly did we get to the point where all our theological discourse was carried out on the side of buses, anyway? A plague o' both their houses. How exactly did we get to the point where all our theological discourse was carried out on the side of buses, anyway?

A plague o' both their houses.

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]]> By: AdrianT http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43441 AdrianT Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:39:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43441 absolutley right flapjack. I happen to have a copy of the said 12" upstairs; 'Cruisin'', when it originally came out in 1985 was on the other side of So Macho (they made it the official 'a' side the year after and it went mainstream. There used to be a magazine that all the Djs would read called Record Mirror, and they did a dance chart of all the gay clubs in the UK at the time ('Hi-NRG / Eurobeat, as it was called then)... Needless to say, both sinitta tracks spent ages at No.1! The lyrics went something like 'Cruisin... looking for another man to be my lover...' Tacky as hell, and for sure aimed at the gay scene.... absolutley right flapjack. I happen to have a copy of the said 12″ upstairs; 'Cruisin", when it originally came out in 1985 was on the other side of So Macho (they made it the official 'a' side the year after and it went mainstream. There used to be a magazine that all the Djs would read called Record Mirror, and they did a dance chart of all the gay clubs in the UK at the time ('Hi-NRG / Eurobeat, as it was called then)… Needless to say, both sinitta tracks spent ages at No.1! The lyrics went something like 'Cruisin… looking for another man to be my lover…' Tacky as hell, and for sure aimed at the gay scene….

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]]> By: Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43419 Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:46:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43419 New sign for the buses. "Christianity: Hoping for the end of the world since 0 A.D." New sign for the buses.

"Christianity: Hoping for the end of the world since 0 A.D."

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]]> By: J Carter http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43392 J Carter Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:43:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43392 Think of the starving childrens lives that the money spent on this little folly could have saved. Hypocrites. All religion should be banned. Think of the starving childrens lives that the money spent on this little folly could have saved. Hypocrites. All religion should be banned.

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]]> By: Ric http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43387 Ric Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:09:13 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43387 complain to the ASA, now they will have to provide proof of god, the other advert said there probably isn't a god, probably being the important word, thus shouldn't have offended any one. The bible does not provide proof. Otherwise we could say that the Noddy books proves that there is a real Noddy. complain to the ASA, now they will have to provide proof of god, the other advert said there probably isn't a god, probably being the important word, thus shouldn't have offended any one. The bible does not provide proof. Otherwise we could say that the Noddy books proves that there is a real Noddy.

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]]> By: Flapjack http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43384 Flapjack Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:27:20 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43384 Daniel - Fair enough... no conclusive evidence on my part, just a very strong hunch based on what evidence I can find. Here's Hargreaves Wikipedia entry... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hargreaves_(politician) The bit which interests me is this paragraph... "In the 1980s, Hargreaves and Ajai-Ajagbe worked at Magnet Records... ...He also wrote and produced several disco records for Sinitta, including "So Macho" and "Cruising", which were popular in the gay community. He told Scotland on Sunday that "So Macho" was intended "...for women to dance round their handbags to and for the gay scene to go mad to on poppers" and that "I was never gay, but I had a lot of lovely friends in the gay scene."" Seems like he has more knowledge of the gay scene than his roles in politics and religion would lead us to believe. Combined with his subsequent homophobia, it does strike me as being symptomatic of Prof. Henry Adams research in the field, that often the folks who are the most vocal opposers of gay equality are those with something to hide. People who don't accept their gay tendancies often take it out on other gay people as it's easier to lash out at others than deal with their internal nature. Like Ted Haggard he has been driven to evangelical religion, again that's not proof but it does seem like a radical u-turn in his previously gay friendly agenda. OK, perhaps I should've included some caveat to the effect of this being speculation on my part, but he does conform to type. Daniel – Fair enough… no conclusive evidence on my part, just a very strong hunch based on what evidence I can find. Here's Hargreaves Wikipedia entry…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hargreaves_(politician)
The bit which interests me is this paragraph…
"In the 1980s, Hargreaves and Ajai-Ajagbe worked at Magnet Records… …He also wrote and produced several disco records for Sinitta, including "So Macho" and "Cruising", which were popular in the gay community. He told Scotland on Sunday that "So Macho" was intended "…for women to dance round their handbags to and for the gay scene to go mad to on poppers" and that "I was never gay, but I had a lot of lovely friends in the gay scene.""

Seems like he has more knowledge of the gay scene than his roles in politics and religion would lead us to believe. Combined with his subsequent homophobia, it does strike me as being symptomatic of Prof. Henry Adams research in the field, that often the folks who are the most vocal opposers of gay equality are those with something to hide. People who don't accept their gay tendancies often take it out on other gay people as it's easier to lash out at others than deal with their internal nature. Like Ted Haggard he has been driven to evangelical religion, again that's not proof but it does seem like a radical u-turn in his previously gay friendly agenda.
OK, perhaps I should've included some caveat to the effect of this being speculation on my part, but he does conform to type.

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]]> By: wossname http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43360 wossname Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:58:43 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43360 And of which, George, I'm proud to be one. And of which, George, I'm proud to be one.

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]]> By: George Broadhead http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43355 George Broadhead Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:12:27 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43355 It is not true to say that the £140,000 raised to pay for the atheist bus ad came from "leading Humanists such as scientist Richard Dawkins". The bulk of it was raised from ordinary atheists responding to an appeal It is not true to say that the £140,000 raised to pay for the atheist bus ad came from "leading Humanists such as scientist Richard Dawkins". The bulk of it was raised from ordinary atheists responding to an appeal

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]]> By: Alex http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43354 Alex Sun, 08 Feb 2009 07:11:09 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43354 Ivan, that might be a surprise for Sinitta ;-) Ivan, that might be a surprise for Sinitta ;-)

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]]> By: Ivan http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43350 Ivan Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:39:32 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43350 @Alex The use of the double negative means Sinitta is singing that she DOES want a seven stone weakling - or a boy who thinks he's a girl. *goes back to pedant's corner* @Alex

The use of the double negative means Sinitta is singing that she DOES want a seven stone weakling – or a boy who thinks he's a girl.

*goes back to pedant's corner*

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]]> By: Daniel http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43348 Daniel Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:58:56 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43348 Evidence? Evidence?

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]]> By: Flapjack http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43343 Flapjack Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:12:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43343 Alex - Goes to show I only remembered the chorus! I stand corrected, though I still say George protests to much. Anyone who can empathise to that degree with someone who lusts after muscle-studs is an outing waiting to happen. Give him another five years and he'll be praying out the gay with Ted Haggard. Alex – Goes to show I only remembered the chorus!
I stand corrected, though I still say George protests to much. Anyone who can empathise to that degree with someone who lusts after muscle-studs is an outing waiting to happen. Give him another five years and he'll be praying out the gay with Ted Haggard.

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]]> By: Alex http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43341 Alex Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:17:58 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43341 Looks like my last comment was removed? Anyway, look at the lyrics: I don't want no seven stone weakling Or <b>a boy who thinks he's a girl</b> And look for Sinitta's performance at TOTP in 1986 and how she illustrates this line showing limp wrist. Looks like my last comment was removed?

Anyway, look at the lyrics:
I don't want no seven stone weakling
Or a boy who thinks he's a girl

And look for Sinitta's performance at TOTP in 1986 and how she illustrates this line showing limp wrist.

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]]> By: Flapjack http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43339 Flapjack Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:03:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43339 Alex "Considering that So Macho is so slightly homophobic - this is hardly surprising!" That's news to me. I knew George Hargreaves was a born-again homophobe, but the song he wrote is camper than a row of tents. Are you detecting an undercurrent of gay hatred in the song I wasn't previously aware of? Alex "Considering that So Macho is so slightly homophobic – this is hardly surprising!"
That's news to me. I knew George Hargreaves was a born-again homophobe, but the song he wrote is camper than a row of tents. Are you detecting an undercurrent of gay hatred in the song I wasn't previously aware of?

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]]> By: Alex http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43335 Alex Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:50:55 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43335 Considering that So Macho is so slightly homophobic - this is hardly surprising! Considering that So Macho is so slightly homophobic – this is hardly surprising!

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html/comment-page-1/#comment-43322 Simon Murphy Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:11:58 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11075.html#comment-43322 This man is a SINNER!!! He needs to pray to Sinitta for forgiveness! This man is a SINNER!!! He needs to pray to Sinitta for forgiveness!

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