Comments on: People who reject Church teaching on homosexuality should leave says bishop http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:23:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Bud Burgoon-Clark http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-47018 Bud Burgoon-Clark Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:35:13 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-47018 Watered silk dresses? Belgian lace dusters? Red Gucci pumps? And we're supposed to take this bunch SERIOUSLY? Watered silk dresses? Belgian lace dusters? Red Gucci pumps? And we're supposed to take this bunch SERIOUSLY?

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]]> By: Rob Alexander http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42961 Rob Alexander Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:14:53 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42961 rjb would be on the right lines if 'Gay Catholics' (priests and lay)were free to make their views known. Sadly, those who attend in silence are recognised by the Church only as accepting its teaching on homosexuality. Sad but true. Gay Catholics should try wearing a rainbow sash to communion and see what reception they get. rjb would be on the right lines if 'Gay Catholics' (priests and lay)were free to make their views known. Sadly, those who attend in silence are recognised by the Church only as accepting its teaching on homosexuality. Sad but true. Gay Catholics should try wearing a rainbow sash to communion and see what reception they get.

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]]> By: Chris http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42847 Chris Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:04:39 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42847 All these homophobic actions of important Catholic bishops seem to be a concerted action. In Germany the Bishop of Fulda has just declared that gay marriage and gay adoption were "kinky" in front of 40 teens. http://www.osthessen-news.de/beitrag_C.php?id=1161261 All these homophobic actions of important Catholic bishops seem to be a concerted action. In Germany the Bishop of Fulda has just declared that gay marriage and gay adoption were "kinky" in front of 40 teens.
http://www.osthessen-news.de/beitrag_C.php?id=1161261

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]]> By: Riondo http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42846 Riondo Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:57:55 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42846 Just which of 'Christ's teachings' is Grech referring to? Jesus' indifference to sex, marriage and the family is legendary. Apart from condemning adultery and divorce (unless the motive of the latter is the former), he had no interest in these matters. He even encouraged people to leave their families in order to follow him - a notion quite shocking to today's evangelicals and Counter-Reformation RCs. He would be entirely baffled by the bizarre obsessions that modern Christians claim as derived from him. Just which of 'Christ's teachings' is Grech referring to? Jesus' indifference to sex, marriage and the family is legendary. Apart from condemning adultery and divorce (unless the motive of the latter is the former), he had no interest in these matters. He even encouraged people to leave their families in order to follow him – a notion quite shocking to today's evangelicals and Counter-Reformation RCs. He would be entirely baffled by the bizarre obsessions that modern Christians claim as derived from him.

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]]> By: rjb http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42817 rjb Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:08:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42817 Will, I could not disagree more. In fact, I would go so far as to say that your suggestion that the term "gay Catholic" is an oxymoron is complicity with homophobia. Catholics leaving the Church will not only satisfy Bishop Grech and his ilk, it will also make it much less likely that it will move in the direction of embracing gay and lesbian people (perhaps why the Bishop thinks it's such a good idea). Leaving the Church out of anger and bitterness is weak. It is gay and lesbian Catholics who remain in the Church despite institutionalised prejudice at the highest levels who are really brave. At a time when there are few real battles left to be fought in a cringingly PC society, the Church is still a forum where there are real and important struggles to be faced. Gay and lesbian Catholics deserve your admiration (if not necessarily your agreement), not vitriol and contempt. Will, I could not disagree more. In fact, I would go so far as to say that your suggestion that the term "gay Catholic" is an oxymoron is complicity with homophobia.

Catholics leaving the Church will not only satisfy Bishop Grech and his ilk, it will also make it much less likely that it will move in the direction of embracing gay and lesbian people (perhaps why the Bishop thinks it's such a good idea). Leaving the Church out of anger and bitterness is weak. It is gay and lesbian Catholics who remain in the Church despite institutionalised prejudice at the highest levels who are really brave. At a time when there are few real battles left to be fought in a cringingly PC society, the Church is still a forum where there are real and important struggles to be faced. Gay and lesbian Catholics deserve your admiration (if not necessarily your agreement), not vitriol and contempt.

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]]> By: Terry Floyd Johnson http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42776 Terry Floyd Johnson Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:10:52 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42776 I have a better idea, all within the Catholic Church, who interpret Jesus teachings, with their own self-affirming hatreds, leave the church. This means all priest, biships, archbiships, cardinals and the pope. Catholics will have a fresh, open and non-political church. I have a better idea, all within the Catholic Church, who interpret Jesus teachings, with their own self-affirming hatreds, leave the church.

This means all priest, biships, archbiships, cardinals and the pope.

Catholics will have a fresh, open and non-political church.

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]]> By: Bill Perdue http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42766 Bill Perdue Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:07:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42766 Agreed. Lukie, are you listening? Agreed. Lukie, are you listening?

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]]> By: Alan Parker http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42755 Alan Parker Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:40:30 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42755 3 years ago I tried to get excommunicated from the roman catholic church and I'm still waiting to have it confirmed that this has been done. It would appear that living in a town other than the one that you were baptized in means that they have a hard time accepting you want to leave. Either that or they want to keep as many people as possible. Either way they still consider me a member of their cult. And a pervert. Double whammy! 3 years ago I tried to get excommunicated from the roman catholic church and I'm still waiting to have it confirmed that this has been done. It would appear that living in a town other than the one that you were baptized in means that they have a hard time accepting you want to leave.

Either that or they want to keep as many people as possible. Either way they still consider me a member of their cult.

And a pervert.

Double whammy!

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]]> By: Har Davids http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42746 Har Davids Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:36:44 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42746 There's no place in any organisation that's run for and by bigots; too bad many people don't agree with those haters but are just too lazy to give up the membership they got from their loving parents. There's no place in any organisation that's run for and by bigots; too bad many people don't agree with those haters but are just too lazy to give up the membership they got from their loving parents.

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]]> By: Har Davids http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42743 Har Davids Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:20:24 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42743 Everyone is his right mind should leave, as the RC church isn't interested at all in people who use their brains occasionally. Just check out http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/; if that doesn't put you off, nothing will and you'd better hang on to the pope and his weird notions. Everyone is his right mind should leave, as the RC church isn't interested at all in people who use their brains occasionally. Just check out http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/; if that doesn't put you off, nothing will and you'd better hang on to the pope and his weird notions.

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]]> By: Will http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42733 Will Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:31:23 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42733 Gay catholic? That very term is an oxymoron EVERY gay catholic should leave. This "trying to change from within" is a load of nonsense. A person of colour does not change the KKK by joining it. If you're gay and catholic, then you need to ask yourself what's missing in my make-up that makes me pander to a group of nasty bigots who are single mindedly trying to suppress us? Bishop Grech is quite right. He's said there is no place for gay people in the church, and he's right, so why are there still some "gay catholics" who wont bother to get off their arse and send this corrupt pack of freaks a very clear message by getting the hell out of that church? Gay catholic? That very term is an oxymoron

EVERY gay catholic should leave. This "trying to change from within" is a load of nonsense. A person of colour does not change the KKK by joining it. If you're gay and catholic, then you need to ask yourself what's missing in my make-up that makes me pander to a group of nasty bigots who are single mindedly trying to suppress us?

Bishop Grech is quite right. He's said there is no place for gay people in the church, and he's right, so why are there still some "gay catholics" who wont bother to get off their arse and send this corrupt pack of freaks a very clear message by getting the hell out of that church?

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]]> By: Celeste http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42716 Celeste Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:30:45 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42716 "For far too long, gay men and lesbians have been treated like mushrooms." Tee hee hee! "For far too long, gay men and lesbians have been treated like mushrooms."
Tee hee hee!

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]]> By: Joseph http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42715 Joseph Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:06:01 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42715 If anyone thought human beings were not resilient, they should check Chuck's entry. If anyone thought human beings were not resilient, they should check Chuck's entry.

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]]> By: Kay http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42713 Kay Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:35:48 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42713 People shouldn't confuse the idea of the words of Christ, with what the Church says, or what the Pope says. Jesus Christ never said anything against gay or lesbian people. Christ talked about showing love and compassion. If the Pope and the Bishops can't follow Christ's teachings of love, they should ex-communicate themselves. People shouldn't confuse the idea of the words of Christ, with what the Church says, or what the Pope says. Jesus Christ never said anything against gay or lesbian people. Christ talked about showing love and compassion. If the Pope and the Bishops can't follow Christ's teachings of love, they should ex-communicate themselves.

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]]> By: Chuck in Chicago http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42694 Chuck in Chicago Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:21:15 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42694 I grew up gay and sexually abused in a small town. 12 years of a papist school system. No wonder my dick is pierced. I grew up gay and sexually abused in a small town. 12 years of a papist school system.

No wonder my dick is pierced.

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]]> By: Edward in Los Angeles http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42693 Edward in Los Angeles Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:08:43 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42693 Another pompous asshole - this time one with a good idea. Let all decent kind people who are not involved in bigotry break off and start their own church! Another pompous asshole – this time one with a good idea. Let all decent kind people who are not involved in bigotry break off and start their own church!

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]]> By: Rob Fox http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42686 Rob Fox Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:13:11 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42686 What a brilliant idea, Bishop! I believe that EVERYONE who doesn't truly agree with all of the articles in the Catechism of the [Roman] Catholic Church should pack up, sign out, and leave, pronto! How many congregants do you imagine they's be left with? What a brilliant idea, Bishop!

I believe that EVERYONE who doesn't truly agree with all of the articles in the Catechism of the [Roman] Catholic Church should pack up, sign out, and leave, pronto!

How many congregants do you imagine they's be left with?

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]]> By: Gonzo http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42683 Gonzo Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:44:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42683 In the words of Christopher Hitchens, the Catholic Church is an "institution that has produced and sheltered an elite army of child-molesters". The church is an innately reactionary and unenlightened institution and progressive gays shouldn't be anywhere near it in the first place. In the words of Christopher Hitchens, the Catholic Church is an "institution that has produced and sheltered an elite army of child-molesters". The church is an innately reactionary and unenlightened institution and progressive gays shouldn't be anywhere near it in the first place.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42681 Steve Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:40:01 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42681 what does it mean, "gay"? It cannot be an opposite of heterosexual; the human is not so pure a category. Nature produces diversity automatically. This is just a convenient category. See, the" World of Male Love" website for some interesting debates. what does it mean, "gay"? It cannot be an opposite of heterosexual; the human is not so pure a category. Nature produces diversity automatically. This is just a convenient category. See, the" World of Male Love" website for some interesting debates.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html/comment-page-1/#comment-42675 Steve Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:47:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10932.html#comment-42675 What is it about being a homosexual so repugnant to the Church? Heterosexuals are committed to the sexual act; it is central to their lives. Let us take a closer look at the assumptions of the church leaders. A mystery is not a proof. What is it about being a homosexual so repugnant to the Church? Heterosexuals are committed to the sexual act; it is central to their lives. Let us take a closer look at the assumptions of the church leaders. A mystery is not a proof.

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