Comments on: Conservative MP Nick Herbert and boyfriend joined in civil partnership http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:21:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: ed phillips http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41154 ed phillips Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:03:55 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41154 First congratulations to the happy couple I hope they will be very happy but please don’t be fooled that the British government is excepting us as equals my partner of 33 years and I marred in Spain last year, its legal for same sex couples to get marred in Spain and be recognised as an equal marred couple, but the social security office in the UK to which we have paid all our working life our national insurance stamps has refused us marred man status and denied my partner a marred mans pension, if he had marred a women then no problem he would have been given his pension but because we are two men NO way First congratulations to the happy couple I hope they will be very happy but please don’t be fooled that the British government is excepting us as equals my partner of 33 years and I marred in Spain last year, its legal for same sex couples to get marred in Spain and be recognised as an equal marred couple, but the social security office in the UK to which we have paid all our working life our national insurance stamps has refused us marred man status and denied my partner a marred mans pension, if he had marred a women then no problem he would have been given his pension but because we are two men NO way

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]]> By: AndySam http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41114 AndySam Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:28:43 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41114 Good Luck & Best Wishes to them both! Good Luck & Best Wishes to them both!

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]]> By: David Burgess http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41100 David Burgess Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:04:29 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41100 I think most people are aware there is residual homophobia in most political organisations. All I can say is that I have never experienced homophobia in the Conservative Party. Members have always supported me and my Japanese partner. Times are a changing! I think most people are aware there is residual homophobia in most political organisations. All I can say is that I have never experienced homophobia in the Conservative Party. Members have always supported me and my Japanese partner. Times are a changing!

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41097 Simon Murphy Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:26:31 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41097 I think it's time for David Cameron to put his money where his mouth is. I think he should state quite clearly that homophobes will be better off in UKIP and the BNP than in the Tories. He has stated clearly that he is opposed to racism. Time for him to make the same statement about homophobia. If he won't do that then it is safe to assume that he is merely pretending to be inclusive to trick gay voters into supporting the Tories. I think it's time for David Cameron to put his money where his mouth is. I think he should state quite clearly that homophobes will be better off in UKIP and the BNP than in the Tories. He has stated clearly that he is opposed to racism. Time for him to make the same statement about homophobia. If he won't do that then it is safe to assume that he is merely pretending to be inclusive to trick gay voters into supporting the Tories.

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]]> By: Daniel S http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41095 Daniel S Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:23:26 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41095 Speaking as a Yank, you lot should count your blessings. Here in the U.S. we have only three openly gay people in our Congress, one party that is all-out hostile to gay rights and one that waffles on the issue. As bitter as you may be about the past antics of the Tories, they're actually more gay-friendly than our Democrats these days! Speaking as a Yank, you lot should count your blessings. Here in the U.S. we have only three openly gay people in our Congress, one party that is all-out hostile to gay rights and one that waffles on the issue. As bitter as you may be about the past antics of the Tories, they're actually more gay-friendly than our Democrats these days!

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]]> By: Martin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41088 Martin Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:28:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41088 My congratulations to them as well. Having worked for the Party all my life it has always been a minority that have displayed homophobic attitudes - that minority made a lot of noise though. David Burgess is right. My congratulations to them as well.
Having worked for the Party all my life it has always been a minority that have displayed homophobic attitudes – that minority made a lot of noise though. David Burgess is right.

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]]> By: Luke http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41082 Luke Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:59:26 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41082 Oh by the way, I also read the Daily Mail and it supports Civil Partnerships, just to let the ill-informed know. Oh by the way, I also read the Daily Mail and it supports Civil Partnerships, just to let the ill-informed know.

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]]> By: Luke http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41081 Luke Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:57:17 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41081 Come on guys, this is progress for the party. The Conservatives are NOT homophobic, yes there are some in the party that are not supportive of the equality agenda and have a dominant voice within the party but mainstream Tory opinion is for gay equality. The general public that votes Conservative too is very pro equality. I know many, many people within Labour run councils that are homophobic and many of its core base are too. I am a working class Conservative and proud, I also happen to be gay. Let's be glad we can be a member of the main political party's now without the equality badge thrown on them. Let's debate economic and public service policies now. Come on guys, this is progress for the party. The Conservatives are NOT homophobic, yes there are some in the party that are not supportive of the equality agenda and have a dominant voice within the party but mainstream Tory opinion is for gay equality. The general public that votes Conservative too is very pro equality. I know many, many people within Labour run councils that are homophobic and many of its core base are too.

I am a working class Conservative and proud, I also happen to be gay.

Let's be glad we can be a member of the main political party's now without the equality badge thrown on them. Let's debate economic and public service policies now.

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]]> By: John F http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41078 John F Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:32:21 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41078 Indeed, what would both Baronesses Young and Blatch think ? I remember when they used to rally their troops in the House of Lords against the repeal of section 28 ! Quite a sight! Changed days and the Tories do SEEM to have dropped their most blatant homophobia - lets wait and see. But remember they don't have the monopoly of voting against equality legislation. There were and are Labour and Lib Dem MPs who are still voting against equality legislation for gay people. Indeed, what would both Baronesses Young and Blatch think ? I remember when they used to rally their troops in the House of Lords against the repeal of section 28 ! Quite a sight! Changed days and the Tories do SEEM to have dropped their most blatant homophobia – lets wait and see. But remember they don't have the monopoly of voting against equality legislation. There were and are Labour and Lib Dem MPs who are still voting against equality legislation for gay people.

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]]> By: Simon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41075 Simon Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:03:09 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41075 Labour may not have a monopoly on sexuality but most of the opposition to the Civil Partnerships Bill came from the Tory benches in the House of Lords. I remember Baroness Young's spiteful campaign only too well. It epitomised a very nasty party indeed. I wish Mr Herbert all the best. What would she have said? Labour may not have a monopoly on sexuality but most of the opposition to the Civil Partnerships Bill came from the Tory benches in the House of Lords. I remember Baroness Young's spiteful campaign only too well. It epitomised a very nasty party indeed. I wish Mr Herbert all the best. What would she have said?

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]]> By: David Burgess http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41071 David Burgess Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:26:08 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41071 I have been a Tory all my life and I am convinced the Conservatives really have embraced gay equality. It is a refreshing pragmatic stance. Labour does not have a monopoly on sexuality! I have been a Tory all my life and I am convinced the Conservatives really have embraced gay equality. It is a refreshing pragmatic stance. Labour does not have a monopoly on sexuality!

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]]> By: andy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41066 andy Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:34:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41066 congratulations to Nick Herbert and his partner. can't imagine that i will ever vote conservative BUT it is a very good thing that Tory MP's are forming Civil Partnerships and that the official Tory Party line is very supportive, particularly David Camerons. I disagree with many if not most of their economic policies but am pleased their policies re the gay community are way ahead of the right wing parties in any other "western" democracy i know of. congratulations to Nick Herbert and his partner. can't imagine that i will ever vote conservative BUT it is a very good thing that Tory MP's are forming Civil Partnerships and that the official Tory Party line is very supportive, particularly David Camerons. I disagree with many if not most of their economic policies but am pleased their policies re the gay community are way ahead of the right wing parties in any other "western" democracy i know of.

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41063 Simon Murphy Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:17:29 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41063 So David. If the Daily-Mail-reading-Tory base decide that they've had enough of gay people getting treated fairly are you confident that Cameron will not abandon his supposed dedication to equality? In light of the fact that the Tories until VERY recently were so blatantly homophobic I think your confidence in them is naive. So David. If the Daily-Mail-reading-Tory base decide that they've had enough of gay people getting treated fairly are you confident that Cameron will not abandon his supposed dedication to equality? In light of the fact that the Tories until VERY recently were so blatantly homophobic I think your confidence in them is naive.

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]]> By: David Burgess http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41054 David Burgess Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:31:31 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41054 Congrats from a Mail reading gay Tory Press Officer from Brighton Pavilion! We are everywhere! Congrats from a Mail reading gay Tory Press Officer from Brighton Pavilion! We are everywhere!

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]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41051 Simon Murphy Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:54:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41051 Good for him for his CP. Too bad he is still a member of a party which seems to pay lip service to equality but is still reliant on white, middle-aged, middle-class, Daily Mail readers. I have no doubt that the second it becomes convenient then Tories could return to their shameful homophobia. Good for him for his CP. Too bad he is still a member of a party which seems to pay lip service to equality but is still reliant on white, middle-aged, middle-class, Daily Mail readers. I have no doubt that the second it becomes convenient then Tories could return to their shameful homophobia.

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]]> By: Luke http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41050 Luke Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:18:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41050 That's because he wanted to keep it private, I don't blame him! Congratulations to him. Two civil partnerships in the Conservative Shadow Cabinet now, it's very good to see. :-) That's because he wanted to keep it private, I don't blame him!

Congratulations to him. Two civil partnerships in the Conservative Shadow Cabinet now, it's very good to see. :-)

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]]> By: zazou http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html/comment-page-1/#comment-41048 zazou Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:45:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10228.html#comment-41048 It shows that the uk have digested the CP very well - this one was hardly noticed in the media or the web It shows that the uk have digested the CP very well – this one was hardly noticed in the media or the web

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