Backers of Gay Marriage Rethink California Push

LOS ANGELES — Discouraged by stubborn numbers and pessimistic , major financial of same-sex marriage are cautioning rights to delay a campaign to overturn California’s ban on such until at least 2012.

Earlier this year, many supporters of same- seemed eager to mount a 2010 campaign to overturn Proposition 8, which was passed by in November and defined as “between a man and a .”

But the timing of another campaign has since been questioned by several of the movement’s big , including David Bohnett, a philanthropist and who gave more than $ to the to 8.

“In with a number of my major No on 8 ,” Mr. Bohnett said in an e- message, “I find that they share my : namely, that we will step up to the plate — with resources and talent — when the time is right.”

“The only thing worse than losing in 2008,” he added, “would be to lose again in 2010.”

The issue of when to go back to the was also the central topic at a contentious “ ” held Saturday at a church in , east of Los Angeles, where about 200 rights gathered to discuss their next step. It was the second large meeting of leaders since late May when the California ruled against a to Proposition 8, which passed with 52 percent of the .

Shortly after the court’s decision, officials at California, one of the largest rights in California, issued an online for for a possible 2010 campaign, citing a need to capitalize on over the decision and on the seeming from the recent legalization of same- in several other states.

But that thinking has apparently evolved.

Marc , director for California, said he spent June and early July asking the opinions of nearly two dozen California and and had been surprised by the almost unanimous opinion that a 2010 race was a .

“I expected having watched the and the real pain that the L.G.B.T. community had experienced that there would be some real measurable remorse in the ,” Mr. said, referring to , , and . “But if you look at the numbers since November, they really haven’t moved at all.”

A major factor in any California balloting, of course, is ; here are remarkably expensive, with a number of costly media markets. The Proposition 8 campaign, for example, cost more than $80 million, with spending some $43 million.

Sarah Callahan, ch

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Gay marriage and the date debate

Nearly after banned same- in the state, supporters are ready to ask them to overturn Proposition 8. They’re just not sure when to ask: In November 2010 or November 2012.

Choosing a date involves more than sifting through the polling, and consultants’ reports that have filled the time since last fall’s election with soul-searching and finger-pointing among supporters, culminating in a meeting of the movement’s leaders Saturday in .

Generating enthusiasm for a campaign will also be a -based decision, one that has split same- even in , where 75 percent of voters backed Prop. 8.

Bakersfield resident Jade Haley wants an in 2010. Her Alee thinks that’s too soon. ’s still refers to Haley as “she” and has no contact with them as a couple, who are raising ’s from a previous .

’ influence

On Sundays, , 34, goes to church twice. She attends a solo with her in the morning and goes to a with her in the evening. “The have thousands and thousands of ready to go against us,” said . She looked at 70 who came to a Church on Thursday to talk about the movement’s next step. “All we have is what’s in this room.”

Still, was among only a dozen at the Bakersfield meeting called by who supported waiting until 2012. The for a next year echoed one at a similar gathering in , while gatherings in liberal such as Oakland and Berkeley leaned toward 2012.

“The reaction was really mixed,” said Brown, ’s , who compiled information from the ’s “Get Engaged” tour of 40 over the past several weeks. “A of who wanted to wait until 2012 wanted to see what the plan was first before they committed.”

A nonbinding straw of leaders gathered Saturday in to plan the movement’s next step found that 93 voted to go in 2010, 49 in 2012 and 20 were undecided. expect to officially decide when to return to the ballot in a couple of weeks. If they decide on November 2010, the deadline to have submitted to the is Sept. 25.

Faults not addressed

This month, several of same- supporters said not enough has been done to the faults of last year’s campaign in time to mount a winning drive next year.

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New straw poll of gay marriage leaders: Overturn Prop 8 in 2010

A straw of same marraige leaders gathered in Saturday just came in: The majority want to return to the ballot in 2010 to try to overturn Proposition 8. Final count of the nonbinding measure: 93 voted to go in 2010, 49 in 2012 and 20 undecided.

The next step: Leaders will return to their organizations and then a will be made in a couple of weeks. If they’re going to go for it in 2010, they’d better . is due to the by Sept. 25.

Oh, yeah. And they still need a leader. And a structure. And a decision-making process.

With that in mind, here’s a for you: Would Steve Hildebrand be interested in to California to the next same ballot iniative campaign?

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