Backers of Gay Marriage Rethink California Push

LOS ANGELES — Discouraged by stubborn numbers and pessimistic , major financial of same-sex marriage are cautioning rights to delay a campaign to overturn California’s ban on such until at least 2012.

Earlier this year, many supporters of same- seemed eager to mount a 2010 campaign to overturn Proposition 8, which was passed by in November and defined as “between a man and a .”

But the timing of another campaign has since been questioned by several of the movement’s big , including David Bohnett, a philanthropist and who gave more than $ to the to 8.

“In with a number of my major No on 8 ,” Mr. Bohnett said in an e- message, “I find that they share my : namely, that we will step up to the plate — with resources and talent — when the time is right.”

“The only thing worse than losing in 2008,” he added, “would be to lose again in 2010.”

The issue of when to go back to the was also the central topic at a contentious “ ” held Saturday at a church in , east of Los Angeles, where about 200 rights gathered to discuss their next step. It was the second large meeting of leaders since late May when the California ruled against a to Proposition 8, which passed with 52 percent of the .

Shortly after the court’s decision, officials at California, one of the largest rights in California, issued an online for for a possible 2010 campaign, citing a need to capitalize on over the decision and on the seeming from the recent legalization of same- in several other states.

But that thinking has apparently evolved.

Marc , director for California, said he spent June and early July asking the opinions of nearly two dozen California and and had been surprised by the almost unanimous opinion that a 2010 race was a .

“I expected having watched the and the real pain that the L.G.B.T. community had experienced that there would be some real measurable remorse in the ,” Mr. said, referring to , , and . “But if you look at the numbers since November, they really haven’t moved at all.”

A major factor in any California balloting, of course, is ; here are remarkably expensive, with a number of costly media markets. The Proposition 8 campaign, for example, cost more than $80 million, with spending some $43 million.

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A consensus: among consultants Wait until 2012 To Repeal Prop 8

he advice is piling up on one side for folks who want to see same legalized in California: Wait until 2012 to ask voters to overturn Proposition 8.

We’ve told you about the three LGBT coalitions of color who suggested waiting, and the nation’s oldest LGBT Democratic club saying the same. Now some of California’s top are joining the chorus.

Now, now. We know that some blame consultants for the ruinous anti-Prop 8 campaign. But California director Marc — who helped the successful drive for in — asked seven to share their thoughts on the 2010 v. 2012 question. Plus, they asked what the community and their should do to prepare to go back to the ballot. Three were openly (including two who are married) and one is a .

The : Wait until 2012.

Sue Burnside, co-chair of the National &; Board, is “convinced that we should refrain from rushing in 2010, and instead to build on and strategically prepare for a ‘Yes on in 2012.” for Mark Armour and suggests “a multi-year campaign that culminates in an election when the time is right.”

“If you do UNSUCCESSFULLY undertake this issue at the ballot in 2010, this will further erode public support on the issue and make it harder for future efforts to succeed,” Claussen said.

Even though Democratic consultant Richie Ross — who has won a bazillion races in California going back a few — doesn’t offer a definitive , he a raw numbers breakdown that suggests that by 2012 there will be more on the rolls (likely to for ) and more older voters (likely to oppose) dying off.

, who has worked on many gay-related ballot measures over the years, worries about . Each side on the Prop 8 battle raised at least $40 million. “The most conventional to employed by a wide variety of campaign strategists — bury your by dramatically outspending them, effectively drowning out their message — isn’t an option when the is as well-funded as ours is in California.” He worries that the 66 weeks until Nov 2010 “is a very brief time to raise $40-.”

Plus, he worries if “our strategy, in a lower turnout year, (can) insure that those who voted withus in 2008 return to the in greater numbers than those who voted against us? We can certainly try. But we have to acknowledge that this would be very difficult. Key blocs of our supporters, such as younger voters, often turn out to in reduced numbers in off-years.”

Former Jill Darling said “Did the 2008 campaign move voters? Are the post- efforts having any effect? Nothing measurable, as of May.”

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