Gay marriage and the date debate

Nearly after banned same- in the state, supporters are ready to ask them to overturn Proposition 8. They’re just not sure when to ask: In November 2010 or November 2012.

Choosing a date involves more than sifting through the polling, and consultants’ reports that have filled the time since last fall’s election with soul-searching and finger-pointing among supporters, culminating in a meeting of the movement’s leaders Saturday in .

Generating enthusiasm for a campaign will also be a -based decision, one that has split same- even in , where 75 percent of voters backed Prop. 8.

Bakersfield resident Jade Haley wants an in 2010. Her Alee thinks that’s too soon. ’s still refers to Haley as “she” and has no contact with them as a couple, who are raising ’s from a previous .

’ influence

On Sundays, , 34, goes to church twice. She attends a solo with her in the morning and goes to a with her in the evening. “The have thousands and thousands of ready to go against us,” said . She looked at 70 who came to a Church on Thursday to talk about the movement’s next step. “All we have is what’s in this room.”

Still, was among only a dozen at the Bakersfield meeting called by who supported waiting until 2012. The for a next year echoed one at a similar gathering in , while gatherings in liberal such as Oakland and Berkeley leaned toward 2012.

“The reaction was really mixed,” said Brown, ’s , who compiled information from the ’s “Get Engaged” tour of 40 over the past several weeks. “A of who wanted to wait until 2012 wanted to see what the plan was first before they committed.”

A nonbinding straw of leaders gathered Saturday in to plan the movement’s next step found that 93 voted to go in 2010, 49 in 2012 and 20 were undecided. expect to officially decide when to return to the ballot in a couple of weeks. If they decide on November 2010, the deadline to have submitted to the is Sept. 25.

Faults not addressed

This month, several of same- supporters said not enough has been done to the faults of last year’s campaign in time to mount a winning drive next year.

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McDonald’s Agrees To Training and Settlement After Staff Called Gay Customers “Faggots,” Super-Size Training For Management Offered After Kentucky Incident

LOUISVILLE, KY – after an employee at a McDonald’s restaurant in downtown Louisville called a group of customers a series of anti- slurs, the American announced today that McDonald’s has agreed to a and training for management at 30 of its Louisville-area .

Ryan , Teddy , and three other had stopped for lunch at a McDonald’s restaurant on East Market Street on July 26, 2008 while visiting Louisville for the weekend. While they waited for their food to be prepared, an employee behind the counter referred to them as “faggots” to another employee. When and objected to the and asked to speak with a manager, the employee who had called them “faggots” started arguing with them, repeatedly calling them “faggots” in front of other customers and calling one of them a “” and “bitch.”

“The reason we made such a big deal out of this to begin with was because we didn’t want it happening to anyone else, so I’m very glad McDonald’s management is going to be having these trainings,” said of Indianapolis, Indiana. “We were hurt and upset, but at least we’re and can handle being called . We hated thinking that this kind of might also happen to someone young and vulnerable who would really take it to .”

The on duty refused to refund the group’s purchase, so attempted several times in the following weeks to contact both the general manager of the McDonald’s and the corporate offices, with no results. prohibits on the basis of , so the filed a complaint in September on behalf of and with the Louisville Commission. In October, representatives of a variety of , , , and as well as other organizations protested at the downtown Louisville McDonald’s where the incident took place.

Although and only asked for $28, McDonald’s offered them $2000 each on its own, which they accepted, Sun said. The Louisville Commission has been thoroughly investigating and ’s complaint since it was filed and helped negotiate the settlement between the parties.

“We’re really grateful to the Louisville Commission for its investigation, as well as to our at the Campaign, and commonGround at the University of Louisville, for keeping the pressure on McDonald’s to ,” said Michael Aldridge, of the of Kentucky. “While we’re fortunate to have a law banning in Louisville, this goes to show that it’s still important to speak out and do something about it when your rights are violated.”

“McDonald’s could have saved itself a of embarrassment if they’d just done the right thing from the start and done something about this, but it’s great that so many stood up for us and came forward to say treating the way we were treated is wrong,” said . “We just hope the trainings keep McDonald’s from letting this happen to any of their customers from now on.”

When their Louisville Commission complaint was filed, and asked for a refund of the they spent on the McDonald’s meal, and asked that one employee – the cashier who objected to the other employee’s name-calling – be commended. “She was the only employee in the whole place who tried to help us,” said . “I hope she hears about this and knows how much we appreciated her sticking up for us.”

“While we wish Ryan, Teddy, and their ’t had to go through this whole experience to begin with, we’re glad that at least McDonald’s is to prevent anything like this from happening again in the future,” said Christine Sun, a senior with the Project who is representing and . “Businesses should treat all of their customers with regardless of their .”

A video of and telling the story of what happened to them as well as their complaint to the Commission can be found at http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/discrim/36781res20080916.html.

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