Homosexuality immoral, but not criminal: Religious leaders

In the first flurry of reactions, appeared to be slamming the de- of . But while most scholars and clerics remain opposed to as an article of , many say that they aren’t advocating making it a criminal as of did.

Writer and philosopher told TOI from his home in New York, ‘‘A new must evolve that is based on a true understanding of human , that is also consistent with its . has been part of the human condition for as long as have existed. The should be congratulated for making a decision that finally catches up with our times.’’

Then, while Delhi has described as ‘‘unnatural’’, it says it has nothing against its de-. of Delhi , , told TOI,‘‘ is a — as opposed to a crime. But we believe that those who indulge in it should be treated with and compassion.’’

In a , was even more forthright. ‘‘It needs to be made clear that the Christian community does not (repeat it does not) treat with tendencies as . Nor does it believe that they can be regarded on par with . Therefore, the church has no serious objection to the repealing of .

‘‘The ’s stand on this is quite clear: Every sign of unjust in their regard should be avoided’,’’ wrote .

Similarly, some clerics and scholars, too, de- of , saying that while does not permit , this doesn’t mean it should be equated with .

‘‘The condemns , but doesn’t prescribe any punishment for it. It’s a , not a crime. is between Allah and the , but crime concerns the entire society. So, sexual should be left to their . They are answerable to Allah for their and should not be treated as ,’’ said Islamic Asghar Engineer.

Maulana Abu Zafar Hassan Nadvi, a cleric, too accepts that since the is silent on the punishment for , it should be treated as an irreligious, immoral . ‘‘Every non-religious is not liable to be punished. Just as we don’t pronounce death for , should be left alone until they get reformed,” said Maulana Nadvi. See Homosexuality immoral, but not criminal: Religious leaders

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Obama urges lesbian, gay patience overturning ‘unjust laws’

Remarks by at the Month Reception, June 29, 2009

THE PRESIDENT: Hello, everybody. Hello, hello, hello. (.) Hey! Good to see you. (.) I’m waiting for FLOTUS here. FLOTUS always more than .

MRS. : No, you move too slow. (.)

THE : It is great to see everybody here today and they’re just — I’ve got a of in the room, but there are some I want to especially acknowledge. First of all, somebody who helped ensure that we are in the , Steve Hildebrand. Please give Steve a big round of . (.) Where’s Steve? He’s around here somewhere. (.)

The new chair of the Export-Import Bank, . (.) Where’s Fred? There’s Fred. Good to see you, Fred. Our Director of the Institute of Sciences at DOE, . Where’s John? (.) A couple of special — Bishop Gene Robinson. Where’s Gene? (.) Hey, Gene. Michael Guest is here. (.) Jim is here. (.) Oregon is here. (.) All of you are here. ( and .) Welcome to your . (.) So.

MEMBER: (Inaudible.) (.)

THE : Somebody asked from the Bedroom here. (.) You knew I was from Chicago too. (.)

It’s good to see so many and familiar , and I deeply appreciate the support I’ve received from so many of you. Michelle appreciates it and I want you to know that you have our support as well. (.) And you have my thanks for the work you do every day in pursuit of

on behalf of the millions of in this country who work hard and care about their communities — and who are , , , or . (.)

Now this , I don’t need to tell you, is incredibly difficult, although I think it’s important to consider the extraordinary progress that we have made. There are to overturn and unfair practices to stop. And though we’ve made progress, there are still , perhaps or even family and loved ones, who still hold fast to worn arguments and old ; who fail to see your families like their families; and who would deny you the rights that most Americans take for granted. And I know this is painful and I know it can be heartbreaking.

And yet all of you continue, leading by the force of the arguments you make but also by the power of the example that you set in your own lives — as and , as PTA and leaders in the community. And that’s important, and I’m glad that so many families could join us today. (.) For we know that progress depends not only on changing laws but also changing hearts. And that real, transformative change never begins in Washington (cellphone “quacks”). Whose duck is back there? (.)

MRS. : It’s a duck.

THE : There’s a duck quacking in there somewhere. (.) Where do you guys get these ring tones, by the way? (.) I’m just curious. (.)

Indeed, that’s the story of the movement for and — not just for those who are , but for all those in our history who’ve been denied the of ; who’ve been told that the full and opportunities of this country were closed to them. It’s the story of progress sought by those who started off with little influence or power; by who brought about change through quiet, personal acts of compassion and and sometimes defiance wherever and whenever they could.

That’s the story of a who’s here today, , who was fired — (.) Frank was fired from his as an astronomer for the simply because he was . And in 1965, he a outside the , which was at the time both an of but also an of extraordinary . And so we are proud of you, Frank, and we are grateful to you for your . (.)

It’s the story of the , which took place 40 years ago this week, when a group of — with few and fewer supporters — decided they’d had enough and refused to accept a policy of wanton . And who were at those are here today. Imagine the journey that they’ve traveled.

It’s the story of an that decimated a community — and the who came to support one another and save one another; and who continue to fight this ; and who demonstrated before the world that different kinds of families can show the same compassion and support in a time of need — that we all share the capacity to .

So this story, this , continues today — for even as we extraordinary as a nation, we cannot — and will not — put aside issues of basic . (.) We seek an America in which no one feels the pain of based on who you are or who you .

And I know that many in this room don’t believe that progress has come fast enough, and I understand that. It’s not for me to tell you to be patient, any more than it was for others to counsel patience to who were petitioning for a half-century ago.

But I say this: We have made progress and we will make more. And I want you to know that I expect and hope to be judged not by words, not by I’ve made, but by the that my administration keeps. And by the time you receive — (.) We’ve been in office now. I suspect that by the time this administration is over, I think you guys will have pretty good about the administration. (.)

Now while there is much more work to do, we can point to important changes we’ve already put in place since coming into office. I’ve signed a memorandum requiring all agencies to extend as many federal benefits as possible to families as law allows.

And these are benefits that will make a real difference for and , who are so often treated as if their families don’t exist. And I’d like to note that one of the key in helping us develop this policy is , our director of the , who is here today. And I want to thank . (.)

I’ve called on to repeal the so-called Defense of to help end — () — to help end against same- in this country. Now I want to add we have a duty to uphold existing law, but I believe we must do so in a way that does not exacerbate old divides. And fulfilling this duty in upholding the law in no way lessens my commitment to reversing this law. I’ve made that clear.

I’m also urging to pass the Benefits and Obligations , which will the full range of benefits, including healthcare, to and their children. (.) My administration is also working hard to pass an employee bill and hate-crimes bill, and we’re making progress on both fronts. (.) Judy and Dennis Shepard, as well as their son Logan, are here today. I with Judy in the in May — () — and I assured her and I assured all of you that we are going to pass an inclusive hate-crimes bill into law, a bill named for their son Matthew. (.)

In addition, my administration is committed to rescinding the discriminatory ban on entry to the based on status. (.) The just concluded a review of a to repeal this entry ban, which is a first and very big step toward ending this policy.

And we all know that / continues to be a public threat in many communities, including right here in the District of . And that’s why this past Saturday, on National Testing Day, I was proud once again to encourage all Americans to know their status and get tested the way Michelle and I know our status and got tested. (.)

And finally, I want to say a word about “don’t ask, don’t tell.” As I said before — I’ll say it again — I believe “don’t ask, don’t tell” doesn’t contribute to our . (.) In fact, I believe preventing patriotic Americans from serving their country weakens our . (.)

Now, my administration is already working with the and of the House and the on how we’ll go about ending this policy, which will require an of .

Someday, I’m confident, we’ll look back at this and ask why it generated such angst, but as , in a time of war, I do have a responsibility to see that this change is administered in a practical way and a way that takes over the long term. That’s why I’ve asked the secretary of Defense and the chairman of the Joint to develop a plan for how to thoroughly implement a repeal.

I know that every day that passes without a resolution is a deep to those who continue to be discharged under this policy — patriots who often possess critical and years of training and who’ve served this country well. But what I hope is that these cases underscore the urgency of reversing this policy not just because it’s the right thing to do, but because it is essential for our .

Now even as we take these steps, we must recognize that real progress depends not only on the laws we change but, as I said before, on the hearts we open. For if we’re honest with ourselves, we’ll acknowledge that there are good and decent in this country who don’t yet fully embrace their — not yet.

That’s why I’ve spoken about these issues not just in front of you, but in front of unlikely audiences — in front of African American church , in front of other audiences that have traditionally resisted these changes. And that’s what I’ll continue to do so. That’s how we’ll shift . That’s how we’ll honor the of leaders like Frank and many others who have refused to accept anything less than full and equal .

Now 40 years ago, in the of at a place called the Inn, a group of , including a few who are here today, as I said, defied an unjust policy and awakened a nascent movement.

It was the middle of the night. The police stormed the bar, which was known for being one of the few spots where it was safe to be in New York. Now raids like this were entirely ordinary. Because it was considered obscene and illegal to be , no establishments for and could get licenses to operate. The of these businesses, combined with the vulnerability of the community itself, meant places like , and the inside, were often the victims of and .

Now ordinarily, the would come and the customers would disperse. But on this night, something was different. There are many accounts of what happened, and much has been to history, but what we do know is this: didn’t leave. They stood their ground. And over the course of several nights they declared that they had seen enough in their time.

This was an against not just what they experienced that night, but what they had experienced their whole lives. And as with so many movements, it was also something more: It was at this defining moment that these folks who had been marginalized up to challenge not just how the world saw them, but also how they saw themselves.

As we’ve seen so many times in history, once that takes hold there is little that can stand in its way. (.) And the riots at gave way to , and gave way to a movement, and the movement gave way to a that continues to this day. It continues when a fights for her right to at the hospital bedside of a she loves. It continues when a is called a name for being different and says, “So what if I am?” It continues in your work and in your , in your fight to freely live your lives to the fullest.

In one year after the , a few hundred and and their supporters gathered at the Inn to a historic march for . But when they reached Central Park, the few hundred that began the march had swelled to 5,000. Something had changed, and it would never change back.

The is when these folks protested at 40 years ago no one could have imagined that you — or, for that matter, I () — would be standing here today. (.) So we are all witnesses to monumental changes in this country.

That should give us hope, but we cannot rest. We must continue to do our part to make progress — step by step, law by law, mind by changing mind. And I want you to know that in this task I will not only be your friend, I will continue to be an and a and a who fights with you and for you.

Thanks very much, everybody. bless you. (.) Thank you. It’s a little stuffed in here. We’re going to open — we opened up that door. We’re going to walk this way, and then we’re going to come around and we’ll see some of you over there, all right? (.) But out there. (.)

But thank you very much, all, for being here. Enjoy the . Thank you. (.) ###

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LA Times Editorial: A court battle California doesn’t need

The ’s ruling last week in the case of a grandiosely unethical justice opened a new field of constitutional review — the high court may now consider when an elected state court has been so tainted by that requires him to recuse himself from a case.

In , a coal executive spent more than $3 million to unseat a sitting state justice; it was well spent, as the justice was defeated by voters and replaced by Brent Benjamin. Benjamin then did what was expected of him and cast a deciding in overturning a $50-million against the executive’s .

Benjamin’s in the case assured him a place in the ’s of , and his was so blatant that the U.S. majority that rebuked him argued that it was not opening the door to many future . Surely, it reasoned, no justice will behave this badly again. That may or may not prove to be true — the court offered little in the way of guidance as to what constitutes impermissible — yet Benjamin’s case sadly but surely will not be the last in which big- and collide.

Indeed, California has wrestled with this problem before — and quite possibly could again.

California’ for selecting justices is much better than ’s. Candidates for the court here are nominated by the governor, confirmed by a state commission and then placed on the . They must periodically stand for retention, but they are not, as they are in , subject to direct challenge by candidates. A retention election can cost a justice his or her seat, but it does not let voters kick out one justice and install their own replacement.

California’s rules have helped balance the ’s independence with the public’s fair on accountability, but even this state’s reasonable retention process has been subject to tilt. Most notable was the 1986 retention election that removed Bird and two , Cruz Reynoso and Joseph Grodin. Much has gone into that race in the since, and opinions differ on its . Two truths, however, stand the test of deep inquiry: The forces arrayed against Bird were not motivated solely by her to the — that was cover for a second complaint, which was her defense of consumer rights against corporate power — and Reynoso and Grodin were victims of a special-interest crusade against a vulnerable chief.

Would that we could relegate that episode to California’s history. In fact, the state rumbles with discontent over its high court and chief, and those stirrings contain alarming of the battle of 1986.

At issue are the court’s rulings on same- and Proposition 8, and its , Ronald M. George. In May 2008, the court overturned the state’s ban on , striking a for in the grandest of constitutional protection of . A few months later, after voters approved Proposition 8 and amended the state to ban the same institution that the court had upheld, George and his upheld the amendment. Both times, George wrote for the majority. He thus angered of in 2008 and supporters of it in 2009.

By California’s rules, George a retention election in 2010, and some predict that he could from either side — or even both — in this polarizing .

That would be a for the state’s , an unfortunate attack on and an unfair castigation of one of this state’s most principled and admirable public officials. In the - cases, George’s votes demonstrated , professionalismand restraint. He voted to uphold same- out of the strong — which this page shares — that the does not allow society to deny the protection of to any more than it once denied it to those united across race. The ruling was right on the law, and will certainly be validated over the long march of history.

Months later, voters tacked in the other , narrowly rejecting and amending the to allow California to recognize only the of . That was challenged, naturally, and the lawsuit offered the court the opportunity to extend its earlier ruling, though on shaky for same- argued that Proposition 8 was such an to the rights of that it revised the rather than merely amending it. Scholars split on the of that argument, and although the strong of rejectedit, an opportunistic justice might have seized the chance to solidify his .

Instead, George subordinated his — as evidenced by his writing — to the weight of constitutional opinion. He voted to uphold the proposition, even though it undid his own work. Permitted latitude within the strictures of the in the first case, George was able to his ; by the in the second case, he yielded.

Such is the of a principled judicial officer, but those concerned only with results already have signaled their unhappiness with George. The moneyed interests that supported Proposition 8 last fall are considering whether to finance a campaign against George next year. Supporters of , who championed his heroism in 2008, were bitterly disappointed when the court upheld the hateful .

This is not . Corporate interests are not knocking off justices who disagree with them and seating more accommodating replacements. But has no place in our judicial life any more than it does in Appalachia. The 1986 campaign against Bird and her now stands for many as a reminder that well-intentioned systems of accountability may be hijacked by special interests, a lesson learned too often and at great cost in California. It was misguided in its first iteration; it would be regrettable in its second.

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Backlash to lenient sentence in gay bashing case

A group of local have planned a June 18 outside the Courthouse to the sentence of Fabio Brandao, a 29-year-old Framingham man who pleaded guilty to taking part in a brutal bashing in the South End on Aug. 24. District Thomas C. imposed a two-year suspended sentence and mandatory completion of an management program on Brandao, but the Anti- Project and the group Join The Impact plan to demonstrate to send the message that they believe the sentence was too lenient. Brandao pleaded guilty to nine charges, including four violations; he and three ambushed a group of four in their mid-20s on who were from the Roxy , and the kicked and punched two of the men in the head, leaving them with cuts, bruises and mild concussions. Brandao and his allegedly called the victims “faggots” during the assault.”It’s just inconceivable that Brandao could have left -injured in the street on and then walk out of court with an management assignment. It shocks the , and it points to a deep-seated problem the Anti- Project has struggled with since 1986, and that’s that , , and don’t get ,” said , chair of the Anti- Project. See Backlash to lenient sentence in gay bashing case

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Same-sex marriage is all up to Gov. Lynch in New Hampshire

Gov. is facing “a of ” on whether to allow in .
That’s the assessment of , director of the University of Center, who said he does not believe the popular governor will be hurt politically no matter what his decision.
The House passed the bill Wednesday, for it to land on Lynch’s . He has three facing him: He can the bill, sign it or allow it to become law without his .
He has stated publicly he believes the state’s law passed in 2007 provides all the legality needed for and he doesn’t personally support . He has also said he has not made up his mind as governor how he will come down on the issue.
No matter what his decision, said Smith, he’ll be just fine.
“He’s not in a position where it matters to him electorally. He’s got a 70-percent . He can say whatever. He’s got his own independent political machine that’s outside the ,” he said. “If he it, the will gripe, but they have never been able to field a credible candidate against him. If he it, the are still going to for him (in 2010).”
Smith said the votes in the House and the — 178-167 and 13-11, respectively — are not dissimilar to ’ feeling on the issue. In the most recent conducted by the center, 55 percent favored and 39 opposed it. The latter number has trended down slightly since the center started polling several years ago, he said. Initially, 42 percent were in . See Same-sex marriage is all up to lynch
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Howard Dean wants marriage in VT

Former Governor was first to sign civil law, “ your , not your district”

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Obama to repeal Bush ‘provider conscience’ regulations

(Washington) The administration is expected this week to begin the process of repealing so-called “provider ” regulations that could have been used to discriminate against , with /, and women seeking .

The regulations, instituted in the of the administration, strengthened protections for and …

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