Enter your email address to receive our daily LGBT news roundup

You're free to unsubscribe at any time.

Kellie Maloney: ‘When I was 18 I lived as a girl for two years’

  • Rumbelow

    “I’ve got to have my boobs done… I’ve got a little bit more work to do on my face… Then there will be no stopping me!”

    Oh gawd help us!
    Lock your sons and husbands up then…innit?

    • Steven Gregory

      Just a “little bit more work to do” on that face.

      I can’t post a comment without sounding absolutely terrible.

  • anon

    Kellie now says she wants to be a man again!!

  • Brian Apple

    Kellie is dabbling in fantasy in my view. For one thing, what does he mean by “I lived as a girl”? Do girls have particular ways of living, do they?

    I suspect that he might have gynephilic tendencies. These manifest as an absurd attraction to female body parts, including vaginas. Gynephilic males are usually quite interested in having sex with women because they want to be what they are having sex with.

    • David

      Well I’m a gynephilic (straight) male, and I’ve got no interest in becoming a woman lol XD I think you may be dabbling in fantasy there Brian!

      • TK

        Old story in Pink News. In the Daily Mirror Maloney revealed she wants to change back to into being a man and leave the celebrity big brother house
        http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/celebrity-big-brother-kellie-maloney-4093071

        • Gruffling

          Hormonal. homophobic and right now just a cross-dresser if going back and forth between genders is that easy. I feel sorry for trans people having this as a representative or an example.

        • atalanta

          Ms Moloney’s homophobic comments are off-putting, and she seems to have retained the knack for self-promotion which propelled her earlier career.

          But I don’t think we have reason to conclude she regrets her transition. I haven’t watched any of Big Brother but, from that Mirror article you quote, it seems her comment about wanting to “change back” was not serious. It looks to me like a – misjudged – expression of frustration with the stress she is currently experiencing.

    • http://oatc.livejournal.com/ oatc

      I suspect you are confused, Brian. Gynephilic means attracted to women, which in a woman would mean lesbian, or in a man, heterosexual.

      Are you thinking of the transphobic and impossible to prove hypothesis by psychologist Ray Blanchard that most trans women are “autogynephilic”, which he claims means that they love the idea of themselves as women, whilst the ones he fancies are extreme gay men who go too far to attract men? If so it got roundly rubbished when a respected sexologist tested Blanchard’s published diagnostic criteria on a large sample of female hospital staff and found 97% to be “autogynephilic”; so its a normal aspect of female sexuality that Blanchard gave a deliberately pathological-sounding name.

      ‘Living as a girl” is obviously a way of saying she partially transitioned. It normally means that people you encounter see you as a girl, or are meant to. It might be counted as “real life experience”, which is required before sex reassignment surgery. I don’t know what Kellie means by it, but since she is quite short, and would not have bulked up through boxing by then, she might have lived as a girl quite easily, especially if she used hormones.

  • RM

    “Openly trans” bothers me a bit. I’d be annoyed if someone referred to me as “Openly gay”. The GLAAD style guide suggests “openly” is preferred over “admitted” or “avowed” (!) but I don’t see why an adverb is needed here at all (esp. in Pink News). I’m absolutely not a grammar nut but “openly” in this context seems to suggest that being lesbian, gay, bi or trans is something that ought to stay hidden

    • Keira

      I think it’s pretty reasonable, since unfortunately we still have millions of people who are LGBT but not out. It distinguishes you as being someone who is comfortable with others knowing your sexuality/identity, from being someone who is a certain sexuality but doesn’t want people to know.

      If someone referred to me as “openly gay” to my face then idk maybe it would be a little annoying, but I think it’s understandable.

      • RM

        That’s true. It’s pragmatic in that sense and as it was a recent thing (coming out as trans) then “openly” helps to flag that up. 5 years down the line though I would hope that it wouldn’t be so necessary. Maybe I’ve just read it in a grumpy mood :)

      • http://oatc.livejournal.com/ oatc

        Also they aren’t using it for LGB, where “closet” is commonly used. Trans is different in that for many it is a private medical matter, even simply history, and we identify, and need to be seen as simply the gender of our identity. That isn’t closet, because revealing that history would tend to obscure our real identity. Others actually identify as trans, or one of many other variations.

        • Keira

          I don’t mean to be rude but you can certainly be a gender and not tell anyone about it, i.e. being in the closet. The term goes for both sexuality and gender.

          • http://oatc.livejournal.com/ oatc

            You mean whilst knowingly living as the wrong gender registered at birth? Yes, OK, that could be closet, but it is also, apparently, possible not to know, for decades.

            But Kellie was out as a woman (doing RLE), although avoiding many contacts, and went public as trans, under threats from some media, she says. That’s different.

        • Paul

          yes you are right, trans is different to being gay. no idea why the T is in LGBT. being T is a medical matter, being gay is not.

          • http://oatc.livejournal.com/ oatc

            Well, a lot of Trans people were, or are LGB too, & have LGB friends & connections, so tend to argue against separation. And those discriminating against us often tend to just lump us together, and its difficult to fight that whilst saying nothing in common, although that succumbs somewhat to their prejudices. And again, depending upon how one defines trans, it can include people who are, say, gay, with only an element of trans – like drag queens. Its a complicated trap, of which the terminology is only a part.

            Those who never were, and are not LGB, such as people who were trans children, and are straight, along with their straight partners, are really messed around by all that though. Myself having been a trans child, and never sexual before transition, but now bisexual woman, I see both sides of that.

            At a recent conference a gay intersex man was arguing that all intersex people should be included in LGBTI, for exactly the reasons above, even though most intersex people would disagree.

    • Jess Kaine

      Openly trans normally means they don’t have a problem sharing that they are trans. But a lot of trans people live ‘stealth’ which is to say they pass as cis gendered so there is no need for them to reveal they are trans. Being transgender is a medical condition and nobody’s business but that persons, so if they chose not to reveal it then it is up to them. It’s not normally used in trans circles to describe someone who is not in the closet anymore.

      • Sim Morris

        It’s a real pity that this evil scumbag Kellie Maloney decided to go public with her trans status.
        Because of her disgusting homophobic extremism she will only damage the trans cause by alienating the LGB community.
        The trans community need to accept a reality – associating with this Maloney pig will align you with homophobic extremism.

        • Jess Kaine

          Sadly we don’t need her to alienate the LG community, they do that by their blatant distain for trans people. This is why so many trans people think we need out of LGBT campaigning, but these LGB……t groups like the bit of T funding they get for f#@k all, so nothings going to change there.

          • Sim Morris

            The disdain felt by LGB people towards T people is largely because of the homophobic bigotry of T people – as illustrated by that ugly, homophobic, hate-filled monster Kellie Maloney.
            Well then if Kellie Maloney speeds up the breaking up of LGBT groups to allow LGB people to campaign separately from T people groups then that is a good thing.
            LGB people do not have gender issues. T people do.
            It was never a good idea to combine the 2.

          • Jess Kaine

            Don’t talk nonsense, she is only one example if a homophobic trans person. It is very well known that trans people suffer terrible abuse off a lot of LG people. Just look at the comments on any trans story on LGBT sites if you don’t think it’s an issue.

  • Alexander Kelso Shiels

    Im sorry but it is the same with all these Homophobes “I have Gay friends” speel, if she want to be accepted she has to change her stance on what being Gay is all about!

    • Steven Gregory

      Does she refer to her gay friends as “inferior” and “undeserving?” I’m truly curious what kind of “gay friends” homophobes have. They all claim to have them, are they silent about the insults and political opposition to their equality and happiness?

      • Sister Mary Clarence

        She neglects to mention she has them tied up and gagged in the cupboard under the stairs

        • Steven Gregory

          Wait until Hagrid hears about this!

  • Lee Hobson

    When it gets down to basics Maloney doesn’t strike me as a very nice person.

    • Sister Mary Clarence

      Yep that’s the self same impression that has struck me (like a train).

      I appreciate that there is some degree of turmoil and confusion involving in the whole transitioning process, and the worry and fear of not being accepted or understood must be very stressful, and that this may manifest in different ways, but underneath all of that I think there is a person who isn’t very nice.

      As my old granny used to say, you can’t polish a turd, and I suspect the post transition she will be no nicer than pre transition.

      • Silly Old Bastard

        Are you really a nun?

        • Sister Mary Clarence

          Totally

          • Silly Old Bastard

            From your last paragraph, I would say they had to put you in a silent order :)

            By the way, in polite company we call them ‘Richards’, unless the company includes a Richard. Then we call them…

          • Rumbelow

            Logs?

          • Sister Mary Clarence

            Granny was anything but polite I’m afraid … nor to be fair was she Cockney

  • Cal

    Silly little man. Respect has to be earned. You’ll have mine when you stop making homophobic remarks.

    • Jess Kaine

      Let me be clear, I hate this woman and think she is a vile bigot. (She truly is the greatest threat to trans acceptance in the last 30 years, and trans people trying to defend her need to have a word with themselves.) But how can you complain about homophobic remarks while making transphobic ones? Or does it not matter because abuse towards trans people is acceptable?

      • Steven Gregory

        Excellent comment.
        Is she truly too dense to understand oppression, bigotry and bias are NEVER okay?

      • Cal

        Not everyone who puts on a wig and says they are a woman is one. This creature has a long way to go. I will reserve my judgement until he develops some humanity.

    • vversatile

      Have to agree with Jess.
      You can’t make a transphobic comment and then criticise Maloney for being a bigot.

      • Cal

        We must disagree. How will he learn compassion if he doesn’t know what it is like to be disrespected. And surely he can’t know or he wouldn’t be making these remarks?

        • Jess Kaine

          But your not just insulting her it’s a slur on all trans people. Would it be ok for me to call you a f####t on the grounds I was just refering to you ?

          • Cal

            Are all trans people the same? Are you like Maloney? If so, how? I don’t believe that saying “he” and fa990t are quite the same thing. I don’t object to fa990t in all cases.

          • Jess Kaine

            Yes they are, the first line bigots take against trans people is to misgender. I have nothing else to say to you about this, your passive aggressive stance shows you are either just trolling or your problem is not with Maloney but transgender people in general.

          • Cal

            But I am not against trans people. I am against this one. He has decided to transition in the public eye while being highly paid for it and at the same time making totally unnecessary homophobic comments. This is aggressive. I am responding. I am not talking about you. I have never “misgendered” any other trans person but am making a statement against this one.

          • Sim Morris

            Whining about misgendering Maloney is a diversionary tactic.
            The trans campaign groups need to make it quite clear that Maloney is not welcome in their groups.
            if they choose to accept her then it is an admission that they endorse her homophobic extremism.

          • Sim Morris

            Having this evil pig Maloney (and I am not misgendering – Maloney is a female pig) on the trans side is going to cause massive problems for trans campaigners.
            Anything less than outright condemnation of her disgusting and evil bigotry means colllusion with it.
            Kellie Maloney is hateful scum.,

          • Benjie Watson

            Hi Jess, I agree with your stance on the misgendering of trans people being often the first line of attack used by bigots and have been appalled by the sheer quantity of misgendering in this discussion so far. I can appreciate that not everyone agrees with Maloney on some of the outspoken things she says or has said in the past, but labeling her in male pronouns is insulting to all trans* people, not just her because it’s a judgement against her identity as a woman based on ideas she has about this community. Shouldn’t we be the grown ups and treat her with respect, which may help her to see her error in judgement against us all. I’m trans myself and although, yes granted, I frequently object strongly to some of things she says about LGBT+ people, I will not refer to her as ‘he’, as that is not how she wishes to be seen. Yes it’s tough, okay guys and I can see you’re angry with her (not you Jess hehe) but don’t attack her gender; rather focus on her arguments and confront her on those issues. Please leave her gender out of it!

        • Steven Gregory

          Don’t let her actions and words determine who you are.

          • Cal

            I was like this before I saw him.

  • Ray

    More fantasy land delusions – you never lived as a girl , because you were a man – your still not a girl, despite genital mutilation – your still male and will remain so until you die .The invented label ‘trans’ is as delusional as the invented label ‘Cent’ for centaur – we are only male or female – not a male trapped inside a centaurs body or a woman’s body ….

    • Rumbelow

      There must be a name for a bigot trapped inside a male body I guess.

      • vversatile

        Is that name “Ray”? ;)

        • Jess Kaine

          Please Ray if you going to put bigoted comments like that up use a real pic and full name so it shows that you stand by them. Otherwise people may think you are just some coward who hides behind his keyboard like a weak little man.

  • Sim Morris

    Kellie Maloneý’s outward appearance is irrelevant.
    On the inside she is an ugly bigoted pig however.

  • Dynamic_Diva

    Kellie Maloney appears to be an evil bigoted human being, quite happy to play LGBT people against each other. She is responsible for putting LGBT people against each other, and Hetro people against us and of making fools of transsexual people with her stupid and adolescent behaviour which bears no relation to the reality of the lives of real transsexual human beings,

    One doesn’t become a woman by “having a boob job”, nowhere reputable will perform srs without some serious validation, this takes weeks, months and years.

    Anyone who puts themselves up to being made an idiot on Big Brother when they supposedly are at the very start of transition needs to see a shrink.

    I seriously think this is a UKIP stunt designed to make fools of us all

These comments are un-moderated and do not necessarily represent the views of PinkNews.co.uk. If you believe that a comment is inappropriate or libellous, please contact us.

Top commenters this week

Latest stories

See all