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Sir Cliff Richard attacks ‘completely false’ sex abuse claims

  • Lorenza70

    Of course he would deny,they always do. I know for a fact that he is a pedophile. Back in the early 90s I knew a CID detective; she told me that they had a list of celebrity known pedophiles; Gary Glitter and Jimmy Saville was also on it.Although she said that Cliff Richard’s was on it with his original name. She went on to say,that at that moment their hands were tied and could not do anything about it.

    • DTNorth

      Unless you have physical proof, I would keep that to yourself less a defamation lawsuit comes your way.

      And PS. PN would also be liable for allowing you to publish such allegations on their servers.

      • Alexander Kelso Shiels

        Bring it on, then we might get the truth.

        • DTNorth

          I’m not defending the man. Simply stating a fact.

          And “Were all going on a summer holiday” will have a whole new meaning.

          A bit like Rolf’s “2 little boys had 2 little toys” as indeed Jake the Pegs extra leg!

          Oh err Matron.

          Our childhoods are summarily being dismantled by controversies.

        • john lyttle

          Want me to list all the accused celebrities/politicians found innocent in the last six months? Further back, does the name McAlpine ring any bells: a dying man dragged through the mud by morons? And remember Matthew Kelly’s ordeal over exactly the same (false) charges? Put through Hell – by people like you.

      • Suddenly Last Bummer

        There is plenty of physical proof DT. Cliff is known as one of the untouchables in the UK media along with Queen Mummy and Prince Philip. Plenty of people are fair game in the media but there are a handful to which we must never read anything negative about.

        • Dan

          & ‘if’ this is true then he is a Pedophile & NOT LGBT & therefore this story dose not belong here – unless you think Gays molest children too….

        • http://www.bloketoys.co.uk/ BlokeToys.co.uk

          Again, where is this proof and evidence you believe you have? And if you have such evidence, why have you not taken this to the police?

          You seem to be expressing that you KNOW what someone is guilty of, and if that’s the case, and you haven’t offered this evidence to the authorities, surely you are also guilty of covering up and protecting a criminal?

          Or, as I suspect, do you actually not have any evidence of anything at all, and simply believe everything you read on a conspiracy forum?

          I would be very careful about what you write around the internet, you can be held accountable for the things you accuse others of, and if you do have evidence as you claim to have you could also be prosecuted for withholding that evidence.

        • john lyttle

          The Wizard of Oz called. The brain’s ready.

      • Lorenza70

        That is fine by me, as Alexander Kelso Shiels said about the truth. It will just let all the worms spill out on the floor for us all to see, if they did bring a case against me and the others that are saying it.

        • john lyttle

          I wonder how defiant you’ll be when you hear the knock on the door and you’re handed the legal papers.

    • john lyttle

      Really want me to list all the accused celebrities/politicians found innocent in the last six months? Further back, does the name McAlpine ring any bells: a dying man dragged through the mud by morons? And remember Matthew Kelly? Put through Hell – by people like you.

  • Dan

    This article is beyond RECKLESS of you PinkNews. – On the assumption that any of this is true, then Sir Cliff would be guilty of Pedophilia as the boy in question was UNDER 16 years of age plus Cliff has never identified as Gay nor has there been any evidence of any past male partners. – HOW can PinkNews link Pedophilia with Gays? – I would expect this kind of ghastly connection from The Daily Mail not an LGBTI newspaper.

    • Alexander Kelso Shiels

      Him and his manager have been living together for years and the news is out there, so you want us just to ignore it!

      • Dan

        Ahh, no. – Minor gossip is out there however Cliff is unique as not even Peter Tatchell found any muck on him. He has been sex scandal tabloid free. Either way your missing my simple point entirely.

        • Suddenly Last Bummer

          I would not describe sexually assaulting someone aged 16 years or younger as ‘minor gossip’.

          • Dan

            Perhaps bother to read all above comments re: ‘minor gossip’ I’m referring to his supposed relationship with his manager! But thanks for your two penneth.

          • john lyttle

            I would describe it as an unproven allegation waiting to be investigated and tested. How would you describe it?

  • DTNorth

    Curious.

    But innocent until proven otherwise.

    What bothers me is that the media were informed beforehand and already there when the police turned up.

    That is simply not right.

    • Suddenly Last Bummer

      DTNorth, the media have known for years but Cliff has had those super press injunctions out against any publication that prints a story re him. I have a friend who is editor of one of the major UK tabloids and they’ve been sitting on this story with substantial evidence for years. Cliff aka ‘Kitty’ was a visitor to Elm Guest House in Barnes. Google it. Its taken a long time to bring him down but its worth the wait.

      • DTNorth

        If that is true then fair enough, however I still await summary evidence and do not think any of this should be public until such time as something is proven. In a court of law. Not the media.

      • http://www.bloketoys.co.uk/ BlokeToys.co.uk

        And all of this is suggestion, accusation, a “friend of a friend told me…”

        There are a-thousand-and-one names linked to these cases by a-thousand-and-one conspiracy theorists all over the world. These accusations do not immediately mean guilt.

        You seem to have believed absolutely everything you have read about this without requiring any actual evidence. I’m glad our legal system doesn’t work on the same ridiculous principles of “where there’s smoke there’s fire”.

        • john lyttle

          His moniker tells us all we need to now about the mouthy moron.

    • http://www.bloketoys.co.uk/ BlokeToys.co.uk

      This is why there should be an investigation after the fact to establish who in the police force is tipping off (or selling) information to the tabloids.

      Regardless of the case and the personalities involved, this should be a police matter and the press should not be permitted any information about it until it goes to court.

      • john lyttle

        The Leveson Report expressly forbade this and recommended that police officers being paid/bribed by the media should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Let’s see if that’s what happens here.

  • dontrampwithme

    I hope pink news get closed down because of this. It’s really shît

    • Suddenly Last Bummer

      Cliff fan eh? Every other news outlet is carrying this story and rightly so, why should Pink News not do likewise? There was a generation of personalities from the 1960s onwards who felt it their entitlement to take whatever they wanted. Were you so indignant when the stories re Jimmy Savile were revealed? Or would you prefer the law waits until Cliff is dead before listening to the stories of the victims?

      • dontrampwithme

        No but innocent until proven guilty or do you want to live Ina. Country where there is trial by the press and the police dish out info about cases. What next lynch mobs? This is still a civilised country a beacon to the world we don’t need trash like you.

      • http://www.bloketoys.co.uk/ BlokeToys.co.uk

        In all honesty, this seems to be becoming a witch-hunt, with the gutter press leading the charge and naming people being accused of things for which there is not yet any evidence.

        For certain crimes there should be a level of discretion shown by both the police and the press. These kinds of accusations can utterly destroy someones life, and no innocent person should be subjected to that.

        Innocent until proven guilty, that is what our legal system is based upon.

        • john lyttle

          Hear hear BT.

      • john lyttle

        Do you really want me to list all the accused celebrities/politicians found innocent in the last six months? Further back, does the name McAlpine ring any bells: a dying man dragged through the mud by morons?

  • Robert W. Pierce

    What on earth could the police be looking for I wonder? If Sir Cliff is guilty, would anyone be so stupid as to leave incriminating evidence lying around the house unless of course the victim has such evidence and able to document it then I think we should all subscribe to ‘innocent until proven guilty.’

    • Suddenly Last Bummer

      People subscribed to the ‘innocent until proven guilty’ with Rolf Harris and see what resulted?

      • LJ

        So we should just abandon it because some allegations turn out to be true?

      • Daniel Spence

        He was proven guilty and no longer presumed innocent. Do you have a problem with that or something?

      • http://www.bloketoys.co.uk/ BlokeToys.co.uk

        He was proven guilty though legal process, as is the standard for this country. What are you suggesting? We should abandon all legal process entirely and return to some kind of mob rule and vigilantism where even an accusation of a crime is justification for violence and retaliation?

        You need to have a good think about what you believe fair and right justice to be.

      • john lyttle

        Do you really want me to list all the accused celebrities/politicians accused and found innocent in the last six months? Further back, does the name McAlpine ring any bells: a dying man dragged through the mud by morons? Morons like you.

      • Robert W. Pierce

        Would you rather have the French Napoleonic system, no habeas corpus, guilty until proven innocent, people languishing in jail before they’ve had a trial? No thanks. No legal system is perfect but ours is far better than any others I know of.

  • Suddenly Last Bummer

    Google Elm Guest House in Barnes.

    • john lyttle

      Why? To be exposed to rumour, nutjob conspiracy theory and barely veiled homophobia? Stupidity makes for some strange bedfellows.

      • Rob

        Cliff Richard’s name is clearly written in the list of “visitors” which also included prominent politicians. Perverted slebs and MPs sharing the same bed – bring the trials on I say.

  • andrew

    this is really quite shocking on two levels. Nothing wrong with the article – it was in most – maybe all – of todays newspapaers I understand. But what is wrong is:
    1. those idiots here, who really should now better, who “assume” that if the man is gay, he likes children (and vice versa)
    2. those idiots (maybe with duplication) who assume, or say with confidence, and at risk of being sued for defamation that they “know” he is a paedophile (or, for that atter, gay, though really, who cares about that?) – by the way “bring it on” may prove to be bravado and perhaps there would be a hasty retreat if you were asked to give your tru identity instead of hiding it – cowardice is highly unattractive.

    And shouldn’t these comments be moderated in case in the event of a trial, if he is actually charged, the jury could be influenced? Something generally sloppy going on at PN.

    • Dan

      Andrew some good points but remember this is a LGBT only newspaper.

    • john lyttle

      Well said, but PN is quite clear about being unmoderated and always has been.

  • Gareth

    Why are the comments even open on this article? This is surely a police matter.

  • Billmid

    To look at this from a slightly different reporting perspective, one has to wonder why it has taken Pink News 24 hours to report on Mr Richard when the tv and radio news was full of it by yesterday lunchtime? Anything to do with the rumours of super injunctions?

    • john lyttle

      I think it’s because of when it broke on the news cycle, when staff may have already gone home. Nothing sinister.

  • Daniel Spence

    This is worth investigating. I’ve heard Cliff Richard’s name mentioned in relation to the Elm Street guest house and operation Fairbank. Granted this was mostly by wacko conspiracy theorists, though they were right about Jimmy Savile almost a decade before his pedophilia was exposed.
    I’ll reserve definitive judgement after any trial/investigation related to this has been concluded.

    • john lyttle

      You’re going to reserve judgement but it’s worth investigating because of rumour you heard. Got it.

      • Daniel Spence

        No, it’s worth investigating because there was an allegation made against him, as this article says, and there is some evidence linking him to another prominent case involving pedophilia. In any event, an allegation alone (especially one this serious) warrants some sort of follow up.

        • john lyttle

          If you have actual, tangible, provable evidence linking Cliff Richard to another pedophilia case – ie not something you read online – you must turn it over to the police immediately. Wouldn’t want to be charged with aiding and abetting/ perverting the course of justice would we? No smoke without fire, that’s what people will say… See how that works Daniel?

  • UglyGeezer

    As if it’s not bad enough that some sections of the mainstream media put paedophiles and homosexuality in the same sentence. Why is this nonsense up on PN?

    • Dan

      Well said mate…

  • JackAlison

    WELL ….BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT
    INNOCENT UNTIL GUILTY
    BUUUUT…..The whole christian thingy is a red flag combined with his questionable sexuality (which is his own business) however he is NOT joe next door he is in the public eye, makes his money from being in the public eye and therefore his life is going to be scrutinized whether he likes it or not.
    I must say the lil boy thing is lika Brit version of Michael Jackson and it totally wouldnt surprise me……particularly as cliff richards has been at pains to give his brand of ‘clean livin” whateva that means

    • john lyttle

      He’s as entitled not to fed in bits to a witch hunting media as you are. The law and common justice are suddenly and viciously revoked just because you’re well known.

      • JackAlison

        im sorry but in reality they are.
        its part of celebrity
        every agent knows how to market their “product”
        his angle was “clean living no drugs no sex christian cliff”
        im sorry but with that angle ur setting urself up 4 a big fall
        if hes gay its fine
        but to pretend that he doesnt hava penis and has neva used it which is how he is marketed is pure hypocrisy
        its sad
        but thats show biz
        his trial will be pure show biz just as rolf harrises trial was
        and yes the media will hava a field day

  • http://www.bloketoys.co.uk/ BlokeToys.co.uk

    First of all, it’s very disappointing to see PN jumping on the bandwagon of reporting on cases while they are under investigation. How is it that other cases have no comments on them when a legal process is underway, but not in this instance?

    Secondly, I find it abhorrent that this has been slammed all over the media when NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN MADE. We have a legal system in this country that should protect all, and the words INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY apply. Yet, here we are, with idiots making highly offensive accusations against someone based on absolutely no evidence and no knowledge of the complaint other than what has been reported.

  • barry

    Something smells here…….I think it’s the odour of dirty money suposedly coming from an “abused under 16 year -old boy;” Shame it’s taken him nearly thirty five years to remember what he says happened yet only a matter of minutes for the press to arrive at Cliff’s gates.
    Hmmm…………..

    • Lorenza70

      Did you bother looking at the Jimmy Saville and the rest of the pedo’s pasts? Kids did complain but they were silenced and it was covered up. However now it has all come out in the open, victims have more of the chance of finally getting justice.

      • john lyttle

        Do you really want me to list all the similarly accused celebrities/politicians accused and found innocent in the last six months? Further back, does the name McAlpine ring any bells: a dying man dragged through the mud by morons and by a ‘victim’ who was equally certain? And remember Matthew Kelly, put through an identical ordeal by lying ‘kids’ who turned out to be blackmailing fantasists aided and batted by gay baiting/hating coppers? I’m willing to give anyone bringing historic charges the benefit of the doubt despite a shabby track record from Bill Roach to David Lee Travis etc etc. Are you willing to give the accused the same?

  • George Broadhead

    I seem to recall that this Evangelical Christian was reported some time ago as living with a priest, but he has always denied being gay.

  • doug

    My goodness, Google ‘Kitty Richard’ and all you get is Cliff Richard! LOL.

    • john lyttle

      Because this is a laughing matter, right?

      • doug

        I also noticed this among some of the comments:

        What do you call 60 legs and 4 teeth? The front row at a Cliff Richard’s gig…

        • john lyttle

          Being mean about your Mum isn’t going to help matters.

  • darzan

    …this country is starting to really get on my nerves. It’s definitely looking like it’s a witch-hunt as we try to take down all ageing celebs..after the Saville case..

  • George Penfold

    Anyone in the public eye that’s a very closeted gay man. lays themselves wide open to being accused of such things. Wither right or wrong, he will have to jump through the media hoops now and may be hauled up in court. I don’t remember any openly gay person who has been accused of this sort of thing.

    • john lyttle

      Maybe he’s not closeted. Maybe he’s just private. No one’s business but his. And I can’t see him jumping through anyone’s hoops. He’s taken on the tabloids before and won and I wouldn’t like to be the cop who leaked this either. Richard is notoriously litigious and has the money and balls to go scalp hunting if he’s innocent.

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