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‘Gays should die because they are rotten’, says proponent of Kenyan death law

  • John Dickens

    Have the American evangelists been doing their dirty work in Kenya too?

    • Halou

      Kenya and Uganda share a pretty long land border, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the case.

    • Leonard Woodrow

      Possibly, but native Africans seem much more prone to fall for religious brainwashing than more educated people.

      • John Dickens

        Oh, like Westboro Baptist church,you mean?

        • Leonard Woodrow

          There will always be religion-addled fools even in the most educated countries.

        • LJ

          Difference is, they are a tiny fringe group that almost nobody takes seriously, they also aren’t in charge of law making.

    • Rehan

      Probably – but I doubt the Kenyan people have been forced into anything recently.

      • Gian

        True and undefiled religion would NEVER force someone… Spirituality is a GOD given right that no one can take away or force on another… It should be an individual, and personal, choice. The US was established to give religious freedom – so why are we still trying to force others to believe like we do??? It is not the right spirit to engage in force…

  • gskorich

    whats that? people oozing ebola out of their eye sockets but all the Kenyan government is concerned about is gays? why is killing gays so important to these people?

  • Mark Y

    If there was a country proposing to kill muslims. Or kill blacks. Or kill Jews. Or kill christians.There would be demonstrations in every city around the World. But a country can propose to kill gays, even enact the law like in Brunei, and – silence.

  • Rehan

    Does it really need pointing out here exactly who (or what) is ‘very rotten’?

    • Rumbelow

      The missionaries and evangelicals have really done a job in African countries, after all they had no competition and the field was wide open for them to spread their homophobic contagion to vulnerable little black children absolutely desperate for any kind of education but they had to take the indoctrination abuse that went with it…

      Wherever the missionaries and evangelicals set up schools in the past we now have all these pre- programmed, homophobic, robot adults as the result… seemingly incapable of critical thought., untouched by reason, psychopathic, cold and entirely lacking in empathy and who see gay people as less than human, prey to be verbally and physically abused and ultimately eliminated as part of some kind of zealously religious sport.

      That the missionaries and evangelicals have achieved this while at the same time raping and torturing so many children in their charge is really quite a remarkable trick.

      • Roku

        Evangelicals filled every space in Africa that muslims missed. All the abrahamic religions are about hate. Death cults the lot of them.

        • Gian

          I respectfully disagree with your comment about the “Abrahamic” religions. The story of Abraham and his relationship with the Creator is all about faith and trusting Goodness to prevail. GOD IS LOVE is the proclamation and ALL other “truths” must measure against the undeniable fact of Christ OUR righteousness, for we all fall short of pure love, but through HIS free gift we can be full of His love and demonstrate it on a daily basis… Religion and Civil authority need to be separate!

          • Pete Smith

            You have obviously not read the old testament of the bible nor the equally vituperative hatred spouted by the koran. Nor is the new testament totally devoid of such bile.

          • Gian

            I have read the Bible front to back more than once and have found a loving Holy and pure God who’s name is “merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth” Exodus 34:6. He states, “oh how can I give them up?” God’s “wrath” is simply letting go because the basic principle at stake is freedom of choice. He wants us to love who He is and allow ourselves the freedom to become like Him in character. God IS Love and He is waiting for those who claim to follow Him to demonstrate love consistently in their lives, made possible by His grace and power and the great sacrifice of Christ for all who would accept the gift…

          • Pete Smith

            Then you may like to comment on this:
            When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination… End of debate.

            I do need some advice, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.

            1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Irish, but not Scottish. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Scotsmen?

            2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

            3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.

            4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

            5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

            6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

            7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I do wear glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

            8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

            9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

            10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them to death? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

            I need advice from someone who has studied these things extensively and thus enjoys considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident somebody can help. We are frequently reminded by religious persons that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

          • vic

            Great. Thank you.

          • Gian

            Hi Pete, you seem to quite the Bible scholar! Sometimes the answers are so easy we miss the point completely!
            The Bible is a written account of how the Creator interacts with the created. All the “laws” you are talking about above were given to a race who had been in slavery for 400 years. Simply giving them freedom would not help them at all! Instructions teaching about the relationship with the Creator and each other were given. If you do a research on the historical and cultural setting, you will find the laws were actually liberating and protective compared to current practices.
            The 10 commandments are the only thing written in stone by the finger of GOD and therefore unchangeable and solid, the other “laws” you are referring to were given for civil order and establishing a nation from former slaves to represent the living God to the other nations.
            The biggest “abomination” today is the worship of God on a false Sabbath. This is the time to find true worship and true love towards others. If we continue to live in the past, we will miss the present and not be prepared for the future. Christ OUR Righteousness is the only answer. He wants a PERSONAL relationship with each individual and nothing less.
            The works and behaviors everyone gets hung up on are only a side-track from the real issue: does the Creator have your allegiance and heart? Religion should be a relationship with the Creator and with others, not a debate over who is “right” and who is “wrong”… :)

      • Rehan

        Yes, but the same type of missionary activity went on in the Americas, and a few South American countries are now among the most advanced when it comes to equality. I wonder what the difference is – it surely can’t be because Catholicism is more gay-friendly as a cult than the various Protestant sects.

        • Roku

          Interesting point. Maybe it ties in with the majority of Catholics disobeying rules on contraception, sex before marriage etc. I really don’t know

  • DTNorth

    ‘You cannot spoil that society in which you are. You cannot dilute its morals,” he added.:

    And you call this moral. You c/ntry is more f/cked than you think. Sick b@st@rd.

    http://www.actionaid.org.uk/where-we-work/kenya

    You can’t even look after your own people.

    • Gian

      The quotes you present show clearly the gentleman is confused! He is actually doing what he fears… He IS spoiling and diluting the morals of his country by his bigotry, bias, and pharisaical attitude…

  • Rumbelow

    Because it’s the same thing.

    “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPBEZmuuPAw”

    • Roku

      Classic propogander against the other…. Jews eat babies, the nazi’s eat babies, gays prey on children.

    • Gian

      This is yet another example of misusing the Holy Bible for one’s own agenda. Yes, the Bible states the wages of sin is death, but the reference is talking about the final end of things. A loving God will not preserve those who do not want to live with goodness, peace, joy, and love (they would be miserable!). The only thing He can do is let them go – when the Life-giver lets go, life ends… It is a GOD thing, not a human one. Our job is to demonstrate His character of LOVE on a daily basis in our lives, that is all we are asked to do… Super simple, not easy…

  • fukkenya

    Hope this ni gger dies of ebola.

    • Rumbelow

      “Gays should die because they are rotten’, says proponent of Kenyan death law”

      Well, back at ya sweetheart.

    • John Dickens

      You are the one who should die, Adolf.

      • Chris in LA

        Naughty! You must learn to do better than call people names. If you do not, no one is going to listen to you.

        • Tom

          So you think it’s right the poster you are supporting used the n word?

          • Gian

            Two wrongs, will never make a right….

    • Chris in LA

      As you mention ebola, it occurs to me that it has broken out in countries that are very homophobic and have anti-gay laws. This means that here is one plague that homophobes cannot blame on us. It won’t be an act of God, either. I expect poor old colonialism will have to shoulder the burden.

  • Steven Spedding

    At the root of this, I am very sorry to say, is a reliance on a religious belief that has lost it’s place in a modern world.

    • John Dickens

      Except in America

      • Gian

        I agree, there is a scary movement in American to bring our nation into the dark ages once more. They are trying to legislate morals, which will never work. Civil government has a great role to fill in keeping society running and the citizens safe. It is not their job to force religious belief systems on their people or demand adherence to popular religious practices…

  • Darule Vozhak

    Sadly people will still head to Kenya for holidays and safari and pump money into their economy. There will be bleeding heart self-professed profound leftist who will demand money from the public to send to these nations in the form of charity and aid. There is a rotten core in Africa, don’t blame American Evangelicals only for this, the people there are virulently homophobic to start with (vast majority not all of course) and as long as we can’t criticize and sanction these places due to political opposition from the left and big businesses looking for profit nothing will change.

  • Kaibelf

    I’ll remember this next time someone says the same about blacks.

    • John Dickens

      Plenty already have, on this thread.

  • Hengu Willemse

    This mentality (if you can call it such) is exactly what’s wrong with Africa… Buffoon!

  • CHBrighton

    When I was a little boy, a very long time ago now, we were often asked at school to give a few pennies for missionaries in Africa to spread the gospel. I want my money back

    • DTNorth

      Indeed.

      That is the very cause of the stupidity these people are espousing.

      I love it when they whine about not wanting Western influence whilst standing in their Western suits, being wheeled about in there Western cars and planes, and using such simplistic things as Western internet and telecommunications.

      The very religion they are using for their bigotry was a middle east import to the west that was then imposed on them by force.

      Every invention ever made came from either the Western nations or the far east.

      These peoples contribution to the planet seems to be nothing more than the invention of International Aid.

      • John Dickens

        You are a hideous racist,aren’t you. There are some really disgusting posts on here. Its `their’, by the way,not `there’ (A sure marker for the far right)

        • Rehan

          It’s not racist to point out that many outspoken Africans are remarkably inconsistent in their approach to Western imports, both imagined and real.

        • Chris in LA

          When people in Africa or the Middle East speak disparagingly of Europeans and “the West”, do you consider their comments to be racist? Of not, why not? It is sometimes appropriate to condemn a whole nation and its people, as we did with Nazi Germany, and yet not be racist.

          • Gian

            I would be fearful to condemn anyone, let alone a whole nation. There were many faithful souls in Nazi Germany who did not adhere to the “nations” policies or belief system… Is it our job to “condemn”?

        • DTNorth

          No. My partner is from Sudan. So F off.

          • John Dickens

            Well, you should know better than to make those kind of comments about a whole continent.

      • Gian

        It is in fallen human nature to dehumanize those we do not agree with, for it allows us to think less of them and more of us…

    • Neela

      Exactly and i think that is where the problem stems.. all those years ago the “missionaries going over to the heathens to push so called christian values on them…

      • Gian

        True missionaries go to fill a need, not push anything… Love does not push itself forward, is not proud, is slow to think evil, and finds joy in the truth… 1 Cor. 13:4-7 I have friends who have dedicated their lives to helping in a practical, medical fashion, those who do not have the privileges we enjoy here. They work to help others have a better quality of life, simply because it is the right thing to do. There is no agenda to force any belief systems, just pure social work to improve another’s happiness…

    • Jon (Malaysia)

      Me too. All those pennies collected by the kindly church ladies teaching Sunday school. The packs of 35 cent cigs I didn’t get to enjoy behind the trees to help the missionaries ‘save’ those poor kids in Africa. Those ‘poor’ kids grew up to be the likes of this ‘man’. I too want my money back.

      • Gian

        Not all have ended up this way! One individual’s belief system does not negate the whole. Let’s not “throw the baby out with the bath water”…

  • ian123

    “Gays must die because they are rotten” He must be aware of the countless times that that or similar has been said about Black people?? But it doesn’t register with them does it, doesn’t even give them pause for thought. Just hopeless .

    • Gian

      Nothing is hopeless yet, just simply frustrating! If God IS LOVE, then religious zealots who promote hate, punishment, and force do not know GOD. I pray for their eyes to be open and their hearts to be softened! And I pray for those who have been offended and hurt once more by an intolerant spirit which is NOT from the Creator…

  • Tom (Winnipeg)

    There was a time, not so long ago when this ignoramus would have been considered subhuman, and yes, rotten. He should count his “effing” blessings.

  • DTNorth

    I have never been racist in all my life. These people are altering my opinion.

    • John Dickens

      You sound like a far right ignoramus.

      • Chris in LA

        I am what many would call a Far Left ignoramus and I agree with Mr. North. Abusing critics of villainy does not help the victims of homophobia in Africa or elsewhere. Save your abuse for those who deserve it.

  • That There Other David

    “Gays are rotten” says Mr Nyakeriga, as he advocates brutal murder.

    The stench of garbage lingers around everything he says and does.

  • http://www.pariss.info Pariss

    There is increasingly an argument for ring fencing most of Africa and not allowing them to poison the rest of the world

    • John Dickens

      I think there is a better argument for doing that to you. And your wig.

      • Roku

        Have you got anything constructive to say? Argue against the comment by all means but as soon as you attack the person you’ve lost. Calling people racist & taking the mickey out of the way someone looks is childish.

        • John Dickens

          I’m just exasperated with the ignorant cliches posted on here,mostly thinly disguised racism I bet none of this lot have ever been to Africa or even know any Africans. There are plenty of courageous Africans fighting for gay rights and AIDS education, but to this lot,they are all primitive corrupt and stupid. No one has complained about one of the twats using the n word. If you are representative of `gays’ you are no better than those bigots you are complaining about.

          • Roku

            I’m no more representative of ‘gays’ as the average joe is representative of ‘straights’. Let’s be civilised. I hadn’t seen the n word above & I don’t condone that. I absolutely agree there are Africans that have done & continue to do amazing things, but you must agree that current governments in places like Uganda, Nigeria, Russia are whipping up hatred against ‘gays’ who are also black Africans.

      • Dolly Digest

        I have to say – I do agree with Pariss. There is no place in the world for this kind of backwards knuckle dragging thinking. Odd that these crazy religionists believe that ebola was a message sent from their god yet are begging for the west to help rid them of this epidemic through western aid and science. I say stop the financial and food aid, stop the medicine and close their borders and leave them to their ‘god’.

      • Truth

        I don’t believe it is racist to point out the breathtaking hypocrisy of a race which has suffered centuries of persecution simply for being who they are and which now persecutes its OWN people for exactly the same reasons.

  • Mort

    I used to be one of the most outspoken people I knew if favor of foreign aid. I used to give to Oxfam, American Friends Service Committee, UNICEF and the Bishop’s Fund. Now I say nothing for or against. People like this have me at a point where I don’t really care. Maybe again, when every single person in the US (“legal” or “illegal”) has sufficient housing, food and health care.

    • Dolly Digest

      I have never given a penny in aid to these countries. Why? Because most of the aid money is divided up into the corrupt African MPs Swiss bank accounts. I could not consciously help a corrupt African politician become a millionaire using money stolen from the very people it was intended for. Money meant to educate, house and feed the poor and starving. Every single African country was once a thriving prosperous country, but during the 50 years of independence the successive governments have systematically raped and pillaged their own lands and people for their own personal wealth.

  • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Instead of focusing on gays they should focus on important agenda.

  • Joeoz

    Well, Mr Edward Nyakeriga…

  • Truth

    Ignorant, brainwashed bigots. Oh yes. Religion has much for which to answer.

  • REALrenovato

    Ignorance can be educated, but you cant fix stupid.

  • darzan

    …it must be said that these African countries and their leaders are constantly revelling their stupid ignorances over homosexuality…is it possible for them to take their heads out of their arses and face the real nature of the World??

  • Robin Day

    Hilariously ironic that they claim that homosexuality is a Western import when in reality, homophobia is the import.

  • Gian

    The main problem is the focus on other people’s behavior and choices. Spirituality is an individual choice, independent from others. When we are connected to the Creator, the personal relationship is the focus and the sharing with others is simply our experience. When we are not connected, the focus is on behaviors (of others or ourselves) and trying to change through human effort those behaviors that we do not like. Civil authority is given the job of keeping the citizens safe. That is where their focus should be, not legislating human ideals of morality!

  • Colin Cass

    Stop the money that these disgusting homophobic Countries in Africa & the Caribbean receive from the U.K.That money is partly funded by taxes collected from the gay British taxpayers . Let them rely on the money being sent from The American bigots in the crazy SO CALLED Christian Sects! America should Stop these payments being sent also!

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