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UK government bans teaching creationism as science in all state schools

  • Leonard Woodrow

    One small step in the right direction! It should be quite evident to all intelligent people that there is zero evidence for any supernatural “God” creating the universe and life … except in the minds of those that believe in such things. Evolution, on the other hand, is backed up by loads of scientific evidence.

  • @Mike-uk2011

    As a secularist, I very much welcome the move. School’s for teaching kids the bare facts and for teaching them how to think for themselves. Schools are not there to indoctrinate them with primitive myths – that stuff belongs in the church.
    Still, not sure what this has to do with LGBT news though.

    • Liam

      Nothing. Not directly at least. Although people who believe the earth is 6000 years old almost invariably oppose lgbt rights.

    • Unfortunately, those who believe and preach this nonsense also believe in and preach for our exclusion from society.

      Lets not be whimsical about this. We all know there is a direct correlation between extreme religious opinions and homophobia, racism, sexism, violence and abuse.

      These people are mentally stunted, confused, conflicted and unable to function properly in a society of people more enlightened and intelligent than them.

      Given that these people want to attack and abuse us every day of the week, it seems logical that it’s news to us when these people are limited in their reach a little more.

      • Frank Boulton

        I entirely agree. It seems to me that those who most ardently believe in and preach that creation happened quite literally as described in the Bible, are the ones who believe that God f***ed up most of his creation and that they’re there to fix it. It’s high time we got the GLF out of the curriculum – God’s Little Fixers. This is another nail in the coffin of fairy tales and a triumph for human rights and reason

  • Daniel Spence

    More secularism can’t be a bad thing. It’s the only way to prevent a repeat of this textbook nonsense and Trojan horse.

  • Bikerman

    That is long overdue but better late than never. It’s worrying that children have already been taught this rubbish in schools like the Kings Academy in Middlesbrough.

    • REALrenovato

      Is that the one in Marton Middlesbrough funded by the taxpayer, If so I was hearing stuff about it over 15 years ago. ??

      • Bikerman

        Near Marton at Coulby Newham. 15 years! That’s a lot of kids misled by some guy who made his money selling cars – excellent basis for educational leadership. Not.

  • Riondo

    What a repressive authoritarian measure. And how entirely necessary.

    • anon

      It’s necessary and progressive.

    • Chris in LA

      Hardly. All laws are dictatorial and you live by them. If authoritarianism is the only way to combat against ignorance, that’s fine with me.

      • Riondo

        (+reply to ‘Anon’) –
        I’m partly being ironic. Whitehall is now having to deal with the toxic consequences of undermining local education authority oversight through the policies of both the last and the current government to encourage assorted ‘free’ and ‘faith’ schools. In effect lots of dodgy groups have been licensed to set up sectarian and irrational institutions at public expense. The results were predictable – outfits based on already questionable notions of ‘freedom’ and ‘parental choice’ have had to be curbed by executive decree.

  • REALrenovato

    Still doesn’t go far enough. public funds should not be used to support religious based “education” or schools with a religious “ethos”, ALL schools recieving public funding should be secular and science based.

    • I absolutely agree. We need to make sure that the only way religion enters any place of education is through a text book, surrounded by appropriate subject matter, as a tool for education, not an opportunity to indoctrinate another generation.

  • Alberto Reale

    Really UK!? You, a highly civilized country, are still teaching creationism as if it was science in 2014!? I’m shocked.

    • Bikerman

      As local authority control over schools was removed by the government, this sort of nonsense has crept in. There is currently a national panic about Islamic schools, which have sprung up in this new deregulated regime.

      • Jon (Malaysia)

        From experience that panic is justified.

        • There is clearly something wrong in these schools and they need to be thoroughly cleaned of all religious influence. There should be no religious control of any educational establishment at all, whether that be Islamic, Christian or damned $cientology.

          It infuriates me that so little seems to have been done on this issue when it’s clear that there was a real and genuine risk of this happening. Even if there were no warnings of it, it should have been assumed that this could potentially happen.

    • Kif Smith

      No , it’s a tiny minority of schools that were still teaching this.

    • Raymond G. Whitham

      Louisiana schools teach creationism. It is a practice far more prevalent in the US than any other country. This garbage comes from the USA.

  • Psychologist

    A great step in the right direction. However, our children should be sent to school to be EDUCATED ….. not INDOCTRINATED into ANY religious “cult” belief system ! To allow kids to be conditioned into believing such utter rubbish, is child abuse in my view ! Let them be taught evidence-based facts, till they’re adult, then let them decide what belief system they choose to follow, if ANY !

    • docMfan

      If you want to be evidence-based, look at some countries which aggressively banned religion from schools: Soviet Union and China spring to mind. Both have thriving, huge Christian communities now. If you want religion to die out, the approach taken in the uk in the second half of the 20th century seems much more effective. Takes a while, but gets you there.

      • No one is saying religion be banned from schools, it’s an important part of understanding history, culture, war… You cannot talk about the Middle East in schools without discussing religion, nor can you talk about the history of Britain without discussing Catholicism, the CofE, Paganism and so on.

        This is about banning Creationism specifically from being taught as a reality when we know it is not reality.

      • Frank Boulton

        The Soviet Union and China also virtually banned religion from society altogether by making life very difficult for those, who professed religious beliefs and practices. I certainly think that this helped to create an underworld desire for religion in the Soviet Union and has contributed to the resurgence of Christianity in recent years in Russia. As points out religion is not being banned from schools and neither is the Biblical story of Creation. All that is being banned is the teaching of Creationism as scientific fact. The place of Christianity and other religions in our history can still be taught. This does not usher in an age of persecution of Christians, as happened in the Soviet Union and China.

  • Truth

    This is EXCELLENT news. All that silly crap confused the HELL out of me as a kid…. talking snakes, women made from a man’s rib and people coming back from the dead. I mean …. PLEASE!!! At least we eventually tell kids that the tooth fairy and Santa clause don’t exist. We really should extend that to all this other nonsense …

  • Michael Wright

    Thank God! LOL!

  • Jon (Malaysia)

    Finally some good news from Britain’s education authority (whatever that is). After hearing horror stories like that King of King’s posting this is most welcome. A ray of sunlight. Here in this tropical land, very few rays of sunlight shine on our educational institutions. Publicly funded schools have to teach tenants of islam. To avoid this parents pretty much have the only other choice to send their children to christian schools which is just as bad. Except the Chinese schools, where they teach ‘morals’ whatever that is. It still amazes me how many I meet that have escaped this indoctrination. The younger generation with their smart phones and connectivity actually have a fighting chance.

  • Ra

    Excellent news. Great day for reality, intelligence and a future for children free of these delusions and lies.

    • theot58

      Darwinian/Macro evolution is the delusion and lie being propagated by dogma and decree in the science classroom.

      Malcom Muggeridge, Pascal Lectures, Ontario Canada, University of Waterloo said: “I, myself, am convinced that the theory of evolution, especially to the extent to which it’s been applied, will be one of the great jokes in the history books of the future. Posterity will marvel that so flimsy and dubious an hypothesis could be accepted with the credulity that it has.”

      The evolution battle is often MISrepresented as science against religion – this is baloney!

      The real battle is between good science and Darwinism. When molecules to man evolution is scrutinised using the scientific method, it crumbles.

      The scientific method demands: observation, measurement, repeatability. Molecules to man evolution has none of these, all it has is circumstantial evidence which is open to interpretation. Ask yourself: What evidence is there that our great …. Great grandfather was a self replicating molecule?

      • Riondo

        Wondered if one of the nut cases in point would turn up.
        If you seriously don’t believe in evolution, try one of the antibiotics of 1950 on a bacterial infection of today.

  • Yay, might even tempt me out of retirement and back into the classroom.

  • Stephen

    Does this mean that if cult schools are caught teaching their bulls*** about that ‘god’ thing creating the world, as if this is more than a fairytale, then they will lose all state funding.
    Let’s hope so. Faith schools abuse children and taxpayers should not be funding them.

  • George Broadhead

    As a gay Humanist and secularist ,I think this is great news, but when are all faith (i.e. sectarian) schools, paid for by taxpayers, going to be scrapped?

  • Hi George: We are on the same side !

  • theot58

    Science should be about evidence not dogma and government decrees. This will ultimately fail because what will they do with teachers and students who question the Darwinian/macro evolution myth? (as the scientific method demands). Will they put them in jail or burn them at the stake?

    The evolution battle is often MISrepresented as science against religion – this is baloney!

    The real battle is between good science and Darwinism. When molecules to man evolution is scrutinised using the scientific method, it crumbles.

    The scientific method demands: observation, measurement, repeatability. Molecules to man evolution has none of these, all it has is circumstantial evidence which is open to interpretation. Ask yourself: What evidence is there that our great …. Great grandfather was a self replicating molecule?

    Dr John Sanford (Geneticist and inventor of the GeneGun) said :

    “The bottom line is that the primary axiom [of Darwinian/Macro evolution] is categorically false, you can’t create information with misspellings, not even if you use natural selection.”

  • Aleksis Niskanen-Costa

    since when was it even allowed?! i mean seriously… in science class teachers teach evidence based science. Fairytales like Creationism is not science… just a desperate attempt at slowing down the decline of blind faith in the younger generations by hiding their agenda in a totally made up pseudo-scientific propaganda of theirs. Teaching it in schools to minors who rely on their teachers to learn real science is CRIMINAL.

  • Avalon666

    Bloody Americans , coming over here taking our childrens brains xx

  • Steve Temke

    Obviously the lawmakers in the UK have quite a bit more backbone than the ones we are subjected to here in the US. I can’t, for the life of me, understand why our legislators are so afraid of this fringe group of whackos that they won’t stand up to them by telling them that we will not teach fantasy as fact in our schools.

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