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US: Christian pastor tells parents to disown gay children and ‘turn them over to Satan’

  • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams

    If you do as this Reverend says and obey the Holy Bible literally as the
    Word of God, you may very well go to his “Heaven”, but you will also
    spend the rest of your live in prison:

    God hates red heads:
    GENESIS 25:25 Esau is red haired ROMANS 9:13 “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

    Alcohol absolutely forbidden:
    Ephesians 5:18. Proverbs 20:1, Proverbs 23:20-21, Isaiah 5:11, Leviticus 10:9, Romans 14:21, Galatians 5: 21, 1 Corinthians 6:10

    Women inferior to men:
    CORINTHIANS
    14:34 Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not
    permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says.
    TIMOTHY 2:12 “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence”

    Killing commanded for these offences:
    DEUTERONOMY
    13:13-17 A town that allows the practice of more than one religion must
    be burned to the ground and its citizens slaughtered.
    DEUTERONOMY
    21:18-21 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey
    the voice of his father or the voice of his mother… then all the men
    of the city shall stone him to death with stones.”
    DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21 A woman not a virgin on her wedding night must be executed.
    DEUTERONOMY 22:22 If a married person has sex with someone else’s husband or wife, both adulterers be stoned to death.
    DEUTERONOMY 22:28-29 A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist.
    DEUTERONOMY
    25:11-12 If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks
    to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy’s genitals, her hand shall
    be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.
    LEVITICUS 18:19 A married couple who have sexual intercourse during a woman’s period shall both be executed.
    LEVITICUS 20:9 “Anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.”
    NUMBERS 15:32,35 Anyone who picks up sticks on the Sabbath must be killed.

    Marriage:
    • No marriage will be sanctioned between people who have been divorced. (Matthew 5:32)
    • No marriage shall be sanctioned between Christians & non-Christians. (2 John 1:9-11, 2 Corinthians 6:14-17)

    No marriage shall be sanctioned in which the wedding ceremony shall
    occur during the women’s menstrual cycle (Leviticus 18:19, 20:18, &
    Ezekiel 18:5-6)
    • No marriage shall be sanctioned of people of different races. (Deuteronomy 7:3, Numbers 25:6-8, 36:6-8, 1 Kings 11:2)
    • A married couple who have sexual intercourse during a woman’s period shall both be executed. (Leviticus 18:19)

    No marriage shall be sanctioned involving a widow (unless it is to her
    brother-in-law). All women whose husbands have passwed away shall
    refrain from intimacy & pleasure for the remainder of their lives.
    (1 Timothy 5:5-15)
    • No marriage shall be sanctioned for any man who has had sexual thoughts of any woman other than his intended (Matthew 5:28)
    • A woman not a virgin on her wedding night must be executed. (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
    • If a married person has sex with someone else’s husband or wife, both adulterers be stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 22:22)
    • A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist. Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

    If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered to have intercourse with
    each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male
    heir. (Mark 12:18-2)

    BUT Polygamy endorsed by God:
    • Solomon … had 700 wives … and 300 concubines. (1 Kings 11:2-3)
    • Rehoboam … took 18 wives, and 60 concubines. (2 Chronicles 11:21)
    • But Abijah waxed mighty, and married 14 wives…. (2 Chronicles 13:21)

    God hates disabled people:
    LEVITICUS
    21:17-21 “Speak to Aaron, saying, ‘No man of your offspring throughout
    their generations who has a defect shall approach to offer the food of
    his God. | ‘For no one who has a defect shall approach: a blind man, or a
    lame
    man, or he who has a disfigured face, or any deformed limb, | or a man
    who has a broken foot or broken hand, | or a unchback or a dwarf, or one
    who has a defect in his eye or eczema or scabs or crushed testicles. |
    ‘No man among the descendants of Aaron the priest who has a defect is to
    come near to offer the LORD’S offerings by fire; since he has a defect,
    he shall not come near to offer the food of his God.”

    God approves of slavery:
    COLOSSIANS
    3:22 “Slaves, obey your human masters in everything; don’t work only
    while being watched, in order to please men, but work wholeheartedly,
    fearing the Lord.”
    PETER 2:18 “Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit
    yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.”
    EPHESIANS
    6:5 “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with
    sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.” —

    Left handedness is an abomination to God:
    Genesis 48:13-19 (King James Version)
    13
    And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel’s
    left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel’s right hand, and
    brought them near to him.
    14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and his left
    hand upon Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
    15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before
    whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
    16 The Angel which redeemed me from all
    evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of
    my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
    17 When Joseph saw his father placing his right
    hand
    on Ephraim’s head he was displeased; so he took hold of his father’s
    hand to move it from Ephraim’s head to Manasseh’s head.
    18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
    19
    And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also
    shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his
    younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a
    multitude of nations.

    Matthew 6:3 (King James Version)
    But when you do alms, let not your left hand know what your right hand does:

    Matthew 25:33-34…41 (King James Version):
    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34
    Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed
    of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation
    of the world:

    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left
    hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

    Ecclesastes 10:2 (King James Version)
    A wise man’s heart is at his right hand; but a fool’s heart at his left.

    Psalm 118:15-16 (King James Version)
    15
    Shouts of joy and victory resound in the tents of the righteous: “The
    Lord’s right hand has done mighty things! 16 The Lord’s right hand is
    lifted high; the Lord’s right hand has done mighty things!”

    Psalm
    16:11 (King James Version) Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy
    presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for
    evermore
    Psalm 110:1 (King James Version) A Psalm of David. The Lord
    says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your
    footstool.”

    Killing naughty children commanded by God:
    DEUTERONOMY
    21:18-21 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey
    the voice of his father or the voice of his mother… then all the men
    of the city shall stone him to death with stones.”
    LEVITICUS 20:9 “Anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.”

    • Poiskey

      dont think they are going to heaven either to be honest…. Timothy 5:8 “But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of
      his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”

      • Rachael Culpepper

        Matthew 18

        21 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”

        22 Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.[g]

        23 “Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold[h] was brought to him. 25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.

        26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ 27 The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.

        28 “But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins.[i] He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.

        29 “His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’

        30 “But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.

        32 “Then
        the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I
        canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed. 35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”
        Why yes this is from the book the pastor mentioned…. ;) hmmmmm. Jesus would never condone shunning, so the not consistent with Christ argument is silly and wrong. Christ died for all of our sins and preached love, forgiveness and equality.He would not want one of his children turned away from him because they have sinned, he would welcome them with open arms and a open heart. Don’t turn away your homosexual sons and daughters, embrace them for who they are.Shunning your family members is actually inconsistent with Christ.

        • Truth

          While I admire the tremendous research you have achieved, you have fallen into the trap of taking seriously the ramblings of an old novel. IT’S ALL MADE UP NONSENSE!!!! To engage in debate with these people is like me arguing over the ‘truth’ of Peter Pan. Do you think for one second that they will tolerate any counter debate? They are brainwashed bigots who are incapable of rational thought. They are best ignored and left to rot in their own disgusting verbal bile. Anyway, I have no doubt they will all, sooner or later, be caught in a compromising position with a rent boy.

          • Rachael Culpepper

            People have used novels to enrich their lives for centuries. Lots of stories are made up but they contain messages that are worth keeping in mind. Whether or not the stories ever happened or not does not change the impact they make. So what if they are brainwashed! If I dirty their mind with some common sense every once and a while using their own dogma then I’d like to think it’s worth engaging in a debate. Now I know people usually go on the offensive or defensive when someone says something that makes sense but contradicts their narrrow way of thinking.As a result, the message usually gets lost but it does not make the message less important. People do have the capacity to change their way of thinking. Not all Christians are bigots and not all bigots are Christian. If I hold the story of Jesus close to my heart it’s not because I necessarily believe he was the son of God, it’s because I like the message he was trying to send. I also have the right to believe what I want and engage with whoever I want and that was written on a piece of paper by people we can all agree really existed.

        • scott

          Yes and now time is up. Disciples do not have to forgive. You are an idiot and gay

          • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams

            If you obey your Holy Bible literally as the Word of God, you may very well end up in your idea of “Heaven” but you will also end up in prison for the rest of your natural life, and in some US states, they will help you on your way with the death penalty. The Bible condones and promotes slavery, misogyny, genocide, infanticide, incest, racism and polygamy. It encourages hate for the disabled and the left handed people. The Bible clearly says that if your child disobeys you for any reason you must kill it:
            DEUTERONOMY 21:18-21 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother… then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones.”
            LEVITICUS 20:9 “Anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.”

            The following are examples of “deeply held religious belief” that allow “Christians” to keep slaves, to refuse service to females, left handed people, mixed race couples, HIV patients, alongside a host of other infringements of “The Word of God”:

            You could try choosing from these (all God’s laws, all confirmed by Jesus Christ so no wiggle room):

            If anyone follows the Holy Bible as the literal Word of God, they may well go to this guy’s “Heaven” but they will also spend the rest of their life in prison. Below are God’s irrefragable commandments:

            God hates red heads:
            GENESIS 25:25 Esau is red haired ROMANS 9:13 “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

            Alcohol absolutely forbidden:
            Ephesians 5:18. Proverbs 20:1, Proverbs 23:20-21, Isaiah 5:11, Leviticus 10:9, Romans 14:21, Galatians 5: 21, 1 Corinthians 6:10

            Women inferior to men:
            CORINTHIANS 14:34 Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says.
            TIMOTHY 2:12 “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence”

            Killing commanded for these offences:
            DEUTERONOMY 13:13-17 A town that allows the practice of more than one religion must be burned to the ground and its citizens slaughtered.
            DEUTERONOMY 21:18-21 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother… then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones.”
            DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21 A woman not a virgin on her wedding night must be executed.
            DEUTERONOMY 22:22 If a married person has sex with someone else’s husband or wife, both adulterers be stoned to death.
            DEUTERONOMY 22:28-29 A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist.
            DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12 If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy’s genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.
            LEVITICUS 18:19 A married couple who have sexual intercourse during a woman’s period shall both be executed.
            LEVITICUS 20:9 “Anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.”
            NUMBERS 15:32,35 Anyone who picks up sticks on the Sabbath must be killed.

            Marriage:
            • No marriage will be sanctioned between people who have been divorced. (Matthew 5:32)
            • No marriage shall be sanctioned between Christians & non-Christians. (2 John 1:9-11, 2 Corinthians 6:14-17)
            • No marriage shall be sanctioned in which the wedding ceremony shall occur during the women’s menstrual cycle (Leviticus 18:19, 20:18, & Ezekiel 18:5-6)
            • No marriage shall be sanctioned of people of different races. (Deuteronomy 7:3, Numbers 25:6-8, 36:6-8, 1 Kings 11:2)
            • A married couple who have sexual intercourse during a woman’s period shall both be executed. (Leviticus 18:19)
            • No marriage shall be sanctioned involving a widow (unless it is to her brother-in-law). All women whose husbands have passwed away shall refrain from intimacy & pleasure for the remainder of their lives. (1 Timothy 5:5-15)
            • No marriage shall be sanctioned for any man who has had sexual thoughts of any woman other than his intended (Matthew 5:28)
            • A woman not a virgin on her wedding night must be executed. (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
            • If a married person has sex with someone else’s husband or wife, both adulterers be stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 22:22)
            • A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist. Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
            • If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir. (Mark 12:18-2)

            BUT Polygamy endorsed by God:
            • Solomon … had 700 wives … and 300 concubines. (1 Kings 11:2-3)
            • Rehoboam … took 18 wives, and 60 concubines. (2 Chronicles 11:21)
            • But Abijah waxed mighty, and married 14 wives…. (2 Chronicles 13:21)

            God hates disabled people:
            LEVITICUS 21:17-21 “Speak to Aaron, saying, ‘No man of your offspring throughout their generations who has a defect shall approach to offer the food of his God. | ‘For no one who has a defect shall approach: a blind man, or a
            lame man, or he who has a disfigured face, or any deformed limb, | or a man who has a broken foot or broken hand, | or a unchback or a dwarf, or one who has a defect in his eye or eczema or scabs or crushed testicles. | ‘No man among the descendants of Aaron the priest who has a defect is to come near to offer the LORD’S offerings by fire; since he has a defect, he shall not come near to offer the food of his God.”

            God approves of slavery:
            COLOSSIANS 3:22 “Slaves, obey your human masters in everything; don’t work only while being watched, in order to please men, but work wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord.”
            PETER 2:18 “Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.”
            EPHESIANS 6:5 “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.” —

            Left handedness is an abomination to God:
            Genesis 48:13-19 (King James Version)
            13 And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel’s left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel’s right hand, and brought them near to him.
            14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
            15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
            16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
            17 When Joseph saw his father placing his right hand on Ephraim’s head he was displeased; so he took hold of his father’s hand to move it from Ephraim’s head to Manasseh’s head.
            18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
            19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

            Matthew 6:3 (King James Version)
            But when you do alms, let not your left hand know what your right hand does:

            Matthew 25:33-34…41 (King James Version):
            33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
            34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

            41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left
            hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

            Ecclesastes 10:2 (King James Version)
            A wise man’s heart is at his right hand; but a fool’s heart at his left.

            Psalm 118:15-16 (King James Version)
            15 Shouts of joy and victory resound in the tents of the righteous: “The Lord’s right hand has done mighty things!
            16 The Lord’s right hand is lifted high; the Lord’s right hand has done mighty things!”

            Psalm 16:11 (King James Version) Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore
            Psalm 110:1 (King James Version) A Psalm of David. The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”

          • scott

            OH gee I did not know this was a sexual pervert site.

          • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams

            That’s straight out of the Bible. It’s telling that you can’t even be bothered to either read or obey it. All the listed commandments are God’s Word, so if you call it “perversion”, you’ve saved us a lot of time.

          • Rory

            I love your comment above. but I couldn’t help but notice that most of them end with the resolution of death. but doesn’t Jesus teach that this is wrong. “thou shalt not kill”. So then the entire bible contradicts itself. lol so glad I escaped that madness

          • Philip Marks

            Being bald, my favorite bible story is where god sends bears to tear 42 children to bleed ing bits because they called his prophet “Baldy”. Bears btw are recently documented to enjoy oral stimulation of the male-male sort, I’m sure you didn’t miss that story in Pink News.

            Now then Scott, let me ask you this. If you are straight why do you spend such a large amount of time on a gay website? You aren’t here to make conversions because not one person here will follow your insane religious guidance for a second. You do seem to derive great enjoyment from talking about gay sex in detail.

            Why don’t you just go find a nice girl and get her pregnant a couple dozen times? You know, Duggar style?
            Oh, Don’t like women, I suppose.

          • Rory

            No he shouldn’t get a girl pregnant think of the children.

          • Dallas Cajun

            Oh, name calling. Show’s your true intellectual capacity. LOL. And besides, you say “gay” as if it’s a bad thing. You have about the same brain mass as a head of lettuce.

          • scott

            Gay means to be happy and that is a good thing. You my dear sir are a SODOMITE. You filthy sexual perverts always take that which is good and turn it into an abomination. Talking about Obama wooo I bet you would like to get in his pants Ha.

          • Philip Marks

            You really want more details about that sodomy thing, don’t you scott? I could point you to some websites that would give you more of a thrill, but you being heterosexual, have a compulsion to be here, right? Most of the straight men I know don’t hang out at gay websites. In fact NONE of the straight men I know do.

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            For Christ sake will you PLEASE praise the LORD!

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            For Christ sake will you PLEASE praise the LORD!

          • Rachael Culpepper

            You do have to forgive sinners that is one of the fundamental teachings of Christ. John 8:7 “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
            Romans 2:1
            You,
            therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for
            at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself,
            because you who pass judgment do the same things.
            You only insult me because you don’t have a decent argument against my point.Oh and yes I am very Gay that I’ve been in a committed relationship with my husband for ten years. Nice try. ;)

          • scott

            And the Lord said to His Disciples go and forgive people there sins, if you do not forgive there sins there sins will be retained. I am a Disciple of Jesus Christ and I do not forgive you your sins for they are Blaspemy against the Holy Sprit and that will not be forgiven in this world or the world to Come. You end time homosexuals are condemned just as Jesus said you would be for unbelief in him and twisting the Holy scriptures to satisfy your perverted sexual lust for each other man with man women with women for God himself has turned you all over to reprobation for final destruction. Have a nice day lesbo

          • Philip Marks

            So why did god kill those 42 kids in 2Kings2 23 for making fun of a prophet by calling him “bald”? I don’t get it.

            I sorta like it, I’m bald. But I don’t get it.

          • Philip Marks

            Scott said “I am a Disciple of Jesus Christ”
            Jesus said: ” By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. ” (John 13:35)

            And he obviously doesn’t think it’s wrong for us to judge how well he is doing that.

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            Praise the Lord scott?

          • Philip Marks

            So half good, and the rest idiot?

        • scott

          Hey lesbo. How about this, And the Sons of Nineveh will rise up and condemn this Nation. Why because it has become as Sodom and Gammora. Go ahead defend these murderous homosexual as you will be Judged and condemned along with them you pervert. In Jesus Christ Name amen

      • scott

        Sorry Gays are not our own or our family. But you can have all of them and provide them with Obama care. Jesus came here to separate them from his own, You must be Gay also

        • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams

          Who wants to go to your “Heaven” and be surrounded by bigots who hate what we are? Now, kindly list all the things that Jesus said about gay people and what would happen to us if we didn’t marry someone we have no feeling for.

          • scott

            Hey Derek, Jesus was sent not to condemn you but to save you. So if you turn to Jesus and stop your sin of homosexual relationships he will cleans you of this terrible sin which means eternal separation from God and save you . But if you deny Jesus and do not stop then His Father will throw you into hell fire. There are no homosexuals in heaven. Type in your browser and ask it will show you all the passage in the bible that show this. And yes the Father hates what you are but through Jesus you can come to heaven without this sin and live for eternity.

          • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams

            List the things that Jesus said about homosexuality.

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            Religion, the Bible and the Internet…GREAT SCOTT what a great idea!!! A New Trinity for the computer age. Jesus sets up a website with FAQs that he answers about this whole homosexuality business which he’s clearly as upset about as scott is.

            He could even add in a couple of webcams to show us all what’s going on now in heaven and hell – you know, what’s hot and what’s not or who’s up who’s down kind of thing. Then we would all know where we stand and scott could get on with his life without having to go online tediously typing out his lurid male anatomical fantasies. I like it!

        • TK

          Go pound some salt, Scott. So I guess if you find out later in life, that one of your children are gay, you would umm, stone them? Disown them? Turn your back on them? Then guess what, you’ll of failed as a parent and be marred for life as one. THE BIBLE IS A FLAWED BOOK AND HAS NO PLACE, SINCE IT’S BEEN RE WRITTEN MANY TIMES OVER.

    • scott

      Your a nutcase and know nothing about what your talking about . That is why we hand theses children over to you Dereck. You are satans son. Thank you for letting us good Christians know where to send our rotten satan possessed kids

      • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams

        “Christian” is a moving goal post depending on your religion. The only way a homosexual could find out that marrying the love of his life was “a sin” would be to go to a church which taught that. Otherwise, he or she would have absolutely no idea that something so wonderful as this mutual love that brings joy to both partners was actually hated by his creator, the very creator who knowingly made him a homosexual.

        Now here’s the thing. Someone born into a family of atheists might chance upon this idea of religion, and then be faced with which religion to choose.

        When it comes to your particular religious bias, there is no single, authoritative world religious view. There are over 41,000 denominations of Christianity alone, to say nothing of the over 70 sects of Islam, Orthodox and Reform Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism. Thus there is no single authority who can say which of this religious megastores is the Truth, since each claims that all the others are apostate.

        As an example, let’s take just two denominations of Christianity, Catholic and Anglican. The Catholic God condemns Birth Control, Women’s Ordination and Divorce, whereas the Anglican God was created by divorcee King Henry VIII and has no problem at all with female clergy or family planning. There is no rational way these two diametrically oppositional gods can be one and the same entity despite both calling themselves “Christian”.

        Moreover, I can name at least 35 denominations of Christianity who welcome LGBT with open arms, hearts and minds, with full sacraments including communion, ordination to the clergy and same sex marriage. For example, Quakers and Episcopalians. Why should THEIR religious belief not be respected too?

        Then there’s the Bible, translated into over 450 conflicting versions in English alone, never mind the over 590 in other languages. The word ‘homosexual’ did not exist in either the Ancient Hebrew of the Old Testament or the Ancient Greek of the new, as it was not invented until the 19th Century by the Austrian novelist Karl Maria Von Kertbeny and was defined along with heterosexuality by the German psychiatrist, Krafft-Ebbing. If it’s in your bible, it’s a false translation. Jesus Christ never mentioned homosexuality, at least not in any negative way, nor is it listed in Moses Ten Commandments.

        Religion is designer product. You can just choose one that fits your animus against gay people. Religion invades people’s lives and spreads unhappiness. Religion is the scourge of the homosexual, and looking at the damage done in its name in religious wars in Ireland, Iraq and Africa, I consider it is the scourge of humanity itself.

        • Philip Marks

          As a Quaker I feel constrained to correct your statement, in that some Quakers consider themselves Christians and some do not.
          It is true that George Fox and the first Quakers, and for a long time all Quakers, were of that tradition, but for at least 100 years that’s not been the universal case.
          Our Society does not have a formal creed (and has never had one, nor does it think it is possible for humans to create a creed that applies to everyone) and it is up to each individual to discern for themselves their right Way in life.

          • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams
          • Philip Marks

            Thanks for the link; which speaks as to Britain Yearly Meeting.

            Quaker decision making, governance, and marriage process are somewhat complicated to explain to non-members.

            The Society as a whole has not come to unity on this issue, though the progressive Yearly Meetings including mine, Pacific Yearly Meeting, have found some clearness on marriage.

            PACIFIC YEARLY MEETING approved the following Minute on Equality of Marriage Rights.

            “As Quakers, some of the reasons we recognize
            marriages are to affirm the individuals in their choice, to support loving families, and to strengthen our spiritual community. It is also fundamental to Quaker faith and practice that we honor the equality and integrity of all human beings.

            “Therefore, it is our belief that it is consistent with Quaker’s historical faith and testimonies that we practice a single standard of treatment for all couples who wish to marry.

            “Given that the State offers legal recognition of opposite-gender marriage and extends significant privileges to
            couples who legally marry, we believe that a commitment to equality requires that same-gender couples have the same rights and privileges.

            “Therefore, we believe that the State should permit gay and lesbian couples to marry and share fully and equally in the
            rights and responsibilities of marriage.
            —-
            Note that this minute does not say that Meetings will or even may perform such marriages; only that the State should permit them.

            Marriages are conducted at the local level, called the Monthly Meeting; that is where the functional decision to sanction any marriage is made. Our practice is to require unity, demonstrated normally by unanimous agreement of members, to any action. In many meetings, this issue is still contentious, though far less than it was. Even a single objector can block marriages or a particular marriage.

            In about 1972 San Francisco Monthly Meeting, of Pacific Yearly Meeting, became the first to adopt a minute supporting and agreeing to perform same sex marriages; ironically it was not until about 2002 that anyone asked the Meeting to actually take a same sex marriage under its care.

            At this link you can see the policy and practices of many Monthly and a few Quarterly or Yearly Meetings
            http://flgbtqc.quaker.org/minutes.html

          • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams

            Thank you also for fleshing out the policy. What this makes clear is that there is not unanimity on religious animus against homosexuality, and by dint of that, against homosexuals per se. “Love the sinner, hate the sin” is poppycock, since if you hate what someone is, then in effect, you hate the person. They can’t legitimately conflate this with murderers, since a murderer has an obvious victim, whereas there is no victim in a consensual same sex romantic relationship.

            People generally shop for the designer religion that most closely fits their tastes, and their prejudices, so if your religion hates what you are, you don’t need to tolerate them for a second longer.

            The following Christian religions welcome openly LGBT members to participate and receive sacraments:
            Calvary Chapel
            Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
            Reformed Church in America
            Oriental Orthodox
            Community of Christ
            Mennonite*
            Moravian Church
            National Baptist Convention*
            New Apostolic
            Unification Church
            United Methodist Church*

            The below also ordain, and bless same sex unions or marriage:
            Anglican*
            Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)*
            Church of Scotland*
            Episcopal*
            Community of Christ
            Church of Denmark
            Evangelical Lutheran Church of America*
            German Lutheran & United Churches in Evangelical Church in Germany
            Metropolitan Community Church
            Church of Norway
            Pentecostal*
            Protestant Church in the Netherlands
            Presbyterian Church (USA)*
            Religious Society of Friends (Quaker)*
            Old Catholic
            Swedenborgian*
            Church of Sweden
            Swiss Reformed Churches in Federation of Swiss Protestant Churches*
            United Church of Canada
            United Church of Christ*
            Unity School of Christianity
            Waldensian*

            *varies

            SOURCE:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominational_positions_on_homosexuality

      • Jesus_Mohammed

        Your cult is truly about love, isn’t it Scott?

        You can’t see that you’re no different from the Islamic loons running around and killing each other in the Middle East as we speak.

        Your mind isn’t you’re own. You’ve been brainwashed. But what’s worse you have only the tiniest morsel of rationality left with which to remove the bull-s**t from your head.

        But, remove it, Scott! Remove it! Go to your local doctor and insist he refers to you to a good mental health practitioner who can help you escape from religious delusions.

        Good luck.

        • scott

          You are a very sick person

          • Carl

            And you are a very stupid one.

      • Philip Marks

        Thank you the gay community has from time immemorial taken in rejected gay kids and given them new families. It’s sad how many are exploited or left without help, true, but most do much better with people who love them than @ssholes like you for family.

        • scott

          And the Church will be very grateful to send all of the Fudge packing Gay boys to you. You sea a penis was made for a vagina not to be shove up another manS crappy butt. Nothing can come out of that but a bunch of crap. You sick BASTARDS

          • HETEROSEXUALITY=GENDERTREASON

            MEN ARE MADE FOR MEN; BRO BEFORE HOE

            ONLY LESBIANS LIKE WOMEN; SO MEN ARE AGAINST MANLY NATURE IF THEY R HETETEOXUALS; PUSSEIS LIKE PÜSSIES; BROS BLIKE BROES

            PENIS FITS INTO A ÄSSHOLE NOT PÜSSY; PROSTATE IS MADE FRO MEN TO RUB AGAINST AND STICK THEIR CÖCK IN ÄSS ; SCIENCE FÄG

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            cmon scott, down on your knees and praise Jesus before he gets pissed with you.

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            cmon scott, down on your knees and praise Jesus before he gets pissed with you.

      • Rehan

        You[']r[e] a nutcase and know nothing about what your talking about

        And you do?

        Never mind, pet, at least you can ably demonstrate how a so-called “good Christian” thinks.

    • Dallas Cajun

      That video is hilarious! And it’s no wonder conversion to Christianity took quite an effort by those who undertook the effort. Christianity appeared to be completely irrational.

  • jamessavik

    Why is it always a dried up old fart that couldn’t get laid with a kilo of coke in one pocket and a roll of hundreds in the other???

    • Philip Marks

      I thought he looked a lot like Jerry Sandusky. :/

      • jamessavik

        That explains a lot.

  • Rehan

    Ah, can’t you just feel all that Christian love wafting through the aether to you?

  • Mark Y

    What a disgusting vile bigoted piece of filth. This pastor should be shown to everyone in America as an example of what it looks like to be an evil man who should not be listened to. Unfortunately, there are still so many in America who live a double life of materialistic capitalist greedy hypocrisy whilst saying they are righteous christians or jews.

    I wish all religious people would just live fundamentally how their religion tells them to – to the letter – which would mean none of them would be able to live in the modern world – 3500 / 2000 / 1500 year old desert dwelling peoples books have no place informing anyone in Western modern civilisation.

  • David Greensmith

    “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” “Love they neighbour”. I guess when you cherry pick from your scripture you risk losing the core message.

  • wildseas

    This man is no more Christian than an Islamic imam. He is going against the New Testament and calling God a liar. Enjoy your time with your Satanic master ‘Reverend’.

    (KJV) Luke 17:34 and Jesus said 34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

    Go and learn what Christianity means ‘Reverend’ and stop interfering and trying to break up families with your insanity.

    • Philip Marks

      I think he is Christian; in the noble tradition of the White Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan…

    • lord thorpe

      These people have more in common with Islam than they do with the ordinary person.

  • anoldphart

    has “written” not “wrote”…………………..OH, DEAR LORD, please save us from these cold, hateful people! They are NOT Christians………. and if they are, then I don’t want to be called one — you don’t just throw away your children…..made in God’s image I was taught.

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      Even if they were lovey-dovey Xians, anoldphart, you still should want to be called one of their number because even lovey-dovey Xians are seriously mentally ill.

    • Philip Marks

      There’s a nice alternative. I call myself a Disciple of Jesus, not a Christian, in that I support and try to follow the true message of Jesus, who I consider a great man. He himself describes how to become his disciple:
      John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

  • Psychologist

    If this is an example of a Christian, then thank GOD I’m an atheist ! Nasty, nasty people !

    Here’s an open letter sent to an American radio show host, who continually spouted anti-gay comments and massive levels of homophobia live on air.

    (Sarcasm alert) The letter reads :-

    Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination … End of debate.

    I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.

    1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own
    Canadians?

    2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

    3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

    4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

    5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

    6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle
    this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

    7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

    8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

    9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

    10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a
    lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

    I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I’m confident you can help.

    Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

    Your adoring fan,

    James M. Kauffman, Ed.D. Professor
    Emeritus, Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special
    Education University of Virginia

    • scott

      Since you are an atheist and do not Believe in Jesus Christ and have learned so much from your highly educated associates I would like to add one thing they may have missed. All those Levitical laws you mentioned you are guilty of for not believing in Gods only begotten son . Homosexuals are condemned in the old and new testament and will be thrown into the lake of fire with you to . That is the reason God sent his Son to give them and you a chance to turn from your wicked filthy ways. God the father has already condemned You for not believing in his Son. For the worlds sin is unbelief in Jesus Christ. You Mr. highly educated are condemned. The door is shut big mouth.

      • George Penfold

        Your post would carry more weight if it was not talking about a fairy tail that only the ignorant, gullible, self delusional and fraudulent believe in.

      • Dallas Cajun

        I am a Christian, MR SCOTT, and I do not believe in your “vengeful, hateful God”. Neither do I believe in your Levitical laws, yet I do agree with Dr. Kauffman. I suggest you go back and read the New Testament, as well, for it says nothing about homosexuality other than THREE Greek words, which are open to interpretation and many theological scholars are still in debate this. They are as follows: arsenokoitēs, malakos, and porneia. In Paul’s epistle to the Romans, some scholars speculate that the text does not condemn homosexual acts by homosexuals, but rather “homosexual acts committed by heterosexual persons”, or heterosexuals who “abandoned” or “exchanged” heterosexuality for homosexuality. Arguments suggest that the conceptual modality which would provide the basis for the blanket condemnation of homosexuality did not exist prior to the Enlightenment era, which occurred in the 17th century. So I say, judge away, Mr. Scott, but I also suggest you throw out a few facts to back up your ridiculousness. Oh wait….isn’t judging another, in itself, a ‘no-no’? Judge not, lest you be judged?

        Sincerest Wishes,

        Edward Ross, BS, MS, Health Care Administration, Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge.

        • scott

          I gather your doing everything you can do through your so called intellectuality by twisting the Word of God to satisfy your own righteousness through self justification of the Lust that is in your heart for the same sex on account of filling it with self love and pushing the Truth of the Word of God out, thereby condemning yourself to eternal habitations of the fire of Hell.

          • Dallas Cajun

            You, Scott, are a self-righteous pig, and live in a fantasy world based on a text written 5000 years ago, by people who were very different than the current population. I’m not hiding behind “so called intellectualism”. I cannot help the fact that my vocabulary, as well as my thought processes, are greater than yours. But you didn’t, nor could you, refute any of the points I made in my previous post. This reason, among so many others, makes you look like such a fool that you’re not worth discussing this issue any further. So with that, I bid you good day. Go back to your “hidey-hole” and believe whatever you want.

          • Sister Mary Clarence

            Yes, you’re right Scott, God forbid that anyone with an education should look too closely at the scriptures.

            I think we all know that all is lost once the language experts start running through it.

            They’ll be no more of this taking it to mean whatever suits business.

            Those pesky cold hard facts ….

          • Dallas Cajun

            Sister, If I’m reading this correctly, you’re saying that educated persons should not read the scriptures? For fear that they might be able to think and ask questions? God want’s us to ask questions, especially since the book has been written and re-written countless times. Well Sister, I’m am so disappointed. If I were ever to go to the hospital for something, I would get up of my gurney and THROW you and your NARROW mind out. How dare you claim to be disciple of God, and think that way. That is the EPITOME of hypocrisy.

          • Dallas Cajun

            Sister Mary, it was brought to my attention, and I should have realized this earlier, that in your response to Scott, you were using sarcasm. If this is the case, then I am truly regretful for my comment to you. I didn’t see the writing on the wall. When I was an undergrad, I worked at a Catholic Hospital. One evening I sat down with another Sister Mary, whom I loved like a grandmother. She gave me advice and encouragement at a time when I really needed it. She had no bias toward me and only showed me that true “God Light” that shines within us all. Again, my sincerest apologies.

          • Philip Marks

            Dallas well said. Now I would recommend that you google “Sister Mary Clarence” for it was the name that told me this was sarcasm…

          • Dallas Cajun

            Ahahahaaaaa! I KNEW I’d heard that name before :-) Thanks, Philip

          • Gary

            I would gladly be thrown into the fires of hell if my only alternative was to spend eternity with people like you..your level of ignorance is appalling.

        • scott

          I bet you know a good proctologist. And the demon spirit of homosexuality is the spirit of murder. Sincerest Wishes. You Filthy SODOMITE.

          • Dallas Cajun

            you are a sick individual. And I don’t practice medicine. That’s a PHYSICIAN you MORON. Oh, judge, judge, judge Scott. You’re such a pitiful creature. But you will get no pity from me. You just make me laugh. It is kinda fun, because I know you sit behind your keyboard just FUMING, trying to think of something else ugly to say! What’s your grade level, by the way? I bet you didn’t finish high school….poor thing LOL

          • scott

            I bet you have a really good proctologist and I bet his name is ben Gay.

          • Dallas Cajun

            and you are SO clever! Where can I learn to be a clever as you? Please please tell me!!!!

          • Dallas Cajun

            and because you stalked me long enough to look my name up, I’m somehow to be unnerved by you? You are a troglodyte! LOL And you mean nothing more to me than a fly on the wall. Although I do have fun seeing you get all wound up and squirm around. It really makes my day

          • Philip Marks

            I do believe Sister Mary Clarence was exercising sarcasm in her comment, Thickly.

          • Dallas Cajun

            I responded to Sister Mary with a heartfelt apology, if she was, indeed, using sarcasm in her response to Scott.

          • scott

            Yes I do enjoy Harassing you sodomites by giving full details of what you sexual perverts actually do to each other to the world. You can fool the Majority of the country on account of there ignorance of the Word of God , by pasting nice words on your filth like, gay,rainbow and gay pride. But you cannot fool the Sons of God. We and our closest brother Jesus Christ are now condemning all you perverts to damnation. It is so much fun getting all this attention from you faggots. Oh yes by the way sister Mary was complimenting me on the way I am condemning all of you. You see she and her kind have been waiting a long time for the Sons of God to appear to condemn all you pieces of scum, and they are watching closely and are praising God right now for what I am doing to you and your kind.

          • scott

            Are we angry wilttle boy because you are going to hell with da west of your butt buddies.

          • Dallas Cajun

            says you…HA

          • Guest

            Oh Scott, just come out of the closet already. Everyone who has read your diatribes probably at least speculates that you are a latent homosexual yourself, and once you are able to control your own “inner demon” then maybe you won’t be in such a rush to judge and condemn others. You, sir, obviously suffer from cognitive displacement. In case you don’t know what that is, it is a subconscious defense mechanism whereby your mind attempts to either create a new aim or a new object for goals felt in their original form to be unacceptable. You’re gay, therefore to feel better about yourself, and PROVE to yourself that you’re not, you get on a GAY thread and condemn people. OH SCOTT, COME OUT, COME OUT, WHEREVER YOU ARE! LOL! You’re such a textbook case of a nut job. Have a wonderfully gay day! See you on the other side of the veil (and won’t YOU be surprised!)

          • scott

            Ok but let me do you first. This is how I like to start. Let me stick a splintered 2 by 4 straight up your ass till it comes out of your mouth and then get your buddy dallas Cajun to suck on it. Maybe that will tickle your prostate. Praise Jesus.

          • Dallas Cajun

            oh, you’re like a broken record. EVERYBODY on this thread knows you are a troll. Why would a so-called ‘straight’ man come on a gay thread and demonize those who have commented? You’re nothing more than a gay man who has issues and is being a troll, but I will give you this…you are tenacious. But you’re still a joke, a very, very bad joke. And this is the last you will hear from me, so go look up more things that fill your mind with hate, because you don’t bother me. You amuse me. All the rest of your comments will be sent directly to my trash folder. May God help you out of the dark hole you are in.

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            scott’s getting aroused…so, how are those demons working out for you scott?

            PS Praise Jesus etc

          • Dallas Cajun

            Oh Scott, just come out of the closet already. Everyone who has read your diatribes probably at least speculates that you are a latent homosexual yourself, and once you are able to control your own “inner demon” then maybe you won’t be in such a rush to judge and condemn others. You, sir, obviously suffer from cognitive displacement. In case you don’t know what that is, it is a subconscious defense mechanism whereby your mind attempts to either create a new aim or a new object for goals felt in their original form to be unacceptable. You’re gay, therefore to feel better about yourself, and PROVE to yourself that you’re not, you get on a GAY thread and condemn people. OH SCOTT, COME OUT, COME OUT, WHEREVER YOU ARE! LOL! You’re such a textbook case of a nut job. Have a wonderfully gay day! See you on the other side of the veil (and won’t YOU be surprised!)

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            Scott, as a gay man, I never think about lesbianism because It doesn’t INTEREST me. I wish every happiness and respect and equality to lesbians and hope they all find their ideal partner (if that’s what they want) and live happy and fulfilled lives.

            There is an awful lot of sinning (in your terms) going on around the world but the one you have decided to write about with a passion concerns men’s rectums.

            I wonder what’s up scott.

            Praise Jesus

          • Philip Marks

            Oh gosh, you think something’s up scott? Oh his RECTUM, I get it! Um well yah I’ve been telling him the problem seems to be that NOTHING is up his rectum and he’s working on that, apparently, by hanging out with gay men, like all the straight guys do who have no interest in sex with men…err…wait a minute…uh…

      • Psychologist

        Delusional fool !
        I hate to break the news, but Santa Clause doesn’t exist either !

        • Dallas Cajun

          Amen to that. Scott gets uptight when someone disagrees with his views, and instead of refuting, or explaining his point in logical terms, he decides to deride them and tell them they are going to Hell. Such a joke.

          • Samuel Thiel

            Scott is a hopeless case who will not be swayed by reason, which he regards as sinful and the work of the devil, or even being shown the discrepancies in the literature on which he bases his hate and disdain for other human beings. I will not waste my time with him but do wish to commend all of you who attempt to reach him. I only wish it were possible. When fanatic dogma has taken such a strangle hold on a person’s psyche one can only hope that at some point the basic good that is inherent in all life will surface again and help him see the light.

          • scott

            I hear you guy guys suck on it after pulling it out of your rectums. I read a medical paper on how much feces you homosexuals swallow and all the bacteria and diseases that spread among you. Besides AIDS that wiped out the Florida keys population . Hey I saw the memorial. I pissed on it. And what are you talking about I hate human beings You guys are not human, your BEASTS. Praise Jesus Christ amen

          • Dallas Cajun

            Scott, why don’t you do as I suggested and look inside that closet of yours. I’ll bet you will find yourself in there. You see, I believe you are just like the arsonist that becomes a fireman, so he can battle flames without actually starting them. You know what that’s called? Displacement. And I would bet that your homosexual feelings are countered when you denounce homosexuality and call us filthy names. This doesn’t make you a true Christian anymore than my sitting in my garage makes me an automobile LOL. You sorry sorry person. And you know what really gets to you? You know I’m right.

          • Dallas Cajun

            you know, i hate to break it to you, but God, nor his son Jesus Christ would approve of your methods. If you read the bible, as you claim to profess, you would know that. I THINK you are a closet homosexual yourself, and that is why the you condemn that which you don’t understand, and stand behind the theological teachings, most of which have no relevance today. You cant think for yourself poor baby. Well girl you need to come out and be PROUD of BEING GAY! It will certainly help you in the long run.

          • Dallas Cajun

            You feel no compassion….the same as a sociopath. Right there Scott, is a glaring example of someone with dangerous skeletons in their closet.

          • lord thorpe

            I think you have been watching too much gay porn!

          • Dallas Cajun

            You are absolutely correct, Samuel. I’m getting tired of playing ping-pong with him. It’s losing it’s appeal. He’ll certainly be surprised when we are ALL together when we leave this earthly plane. He just didn’t get the notice that God loves us all.

          • Dallas Cajun

            I enjoy toying with him. He’s obviously missing a few cards from his deck.. I tried a different approach tonight, since he seems to feed off the things we tell when we try to make him see the light. I hope when he reads my post, he get’s so agitated that he cant even think LOL

          • Philip Marks

            I feel sorry for him because you are right, he almost certainly is obsessed with gay sex for a reason, and we know the reason.
            STRAIGHT guys spend their time on gay web sites for no reason at all. They are busy looking for women, or at least porn… Scot is looking for something else.

          • scott

            Ya , you all would like to reach out to me with your horny dicks. But God through Jesus Christ is going to trample over your blood soaked bodies along with his brothers and it won’t be that that long. So enjoy your sick sexual perversion now with your butt buddy BARACK OBAMA because time is almost up. No wonder the vasoline company is still around. Note watch out for the pepper.

          • Psychologist

            Yes indeed he does !
            I see this sort of delusional thinking on an almost daily basis during therapy – so I’m quite used to giving deluded people “REALITY” checks to challenge their delusions.
            Religion actively ENCOURAGES delusional thinking, which is just ONE of the reasons it is so damaging. It produced fools like “Scott” , and Christians who tell their parents to “hand over their gay children to Satan! ! …
            … REALLY ??? !!!!!!!!

          • Dallas Cajun

            Giving this fool a reality check will have approximately the same outcome as debating with a stone. Fruitless effort. And did you read his response regarding Santa Clause? LOOOOL!!!!

        • scott

          I don’t mind fighting about the Homosexual thing. But don’t you dare put down Santa Clause.

          • Psychologist

            You need serious professional help !

          • Philip Marks

            No he needs FRIVOLOUS professional help.

          • TheTimeIsNow1

            Did you forget to praise Jesus there scott or maybe he’s had enough praise for one day?

            Praise the LORD!!!

      • TheTimeIsNow1

        Hey scott, your God doesn’t give a toss about homosexuality – how tiny minded do you think he is?

  • Stephen_Glenn

    This guy is nothing, Paul says so in the bible.

    If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all
    knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not
    have love, I am nothing.
    1 Corinthians 13:2

    The fact is that this Pastor appearing on the Grace to You show as part of the Grace community needs to look up what grace actually is. In Christian terms it is the free and unmerited
    favour of God, as manifested in the salvation of sinners and the
    bestowal of blessings. So I’m sure other LGBT Christians, their family members and friends will be joining me in praying that this Pastor learns about grace.

  • Tom (Winnipeg)

    The word “Christian” is beginning to give me a very bad taste. Sorry, all you fine folk who I know to be Christian, but these bums are stinking up your religion.

    • Philip Marks

      There’s a nice alternative. I consider myself a Disciple of Jesus, not a Christian, in that I support and try to follow the true message of Jesus, whoever he may have been. He himself describes how to become his disciple:

      John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

  • SpaceDandy

    Man like him is reason families fall apart.

    • Truth

      Men like him are the reason the WORLD has fallen apart….!!!. Religion causes division and hatred. Where agnosticism has broken out… so has peace. Religion is designed to keep the ignorant and the poor in line. It also keeps the sheep, sheep and the priests, wealthy.

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      Or the reason families are TORN apart. He does the tearing. He’s destructive.

  • ladymidath

    Words of hate from a hateful man.

  • David C

    Sorry, people, but your looking at the guy wrong.
    He’s advocating a kind of tough love for a homosexual who also claims to be a Christian. He is not telling parents to have nothing more to do with their gay offspring forever after if said offspring also say they are fellow Christians.
    If the gay children are not Christians then their non-belief has to be accepted. I honestly don’t know how you all get out of these sort of comments what you derive from them. Oh wait, yes I do: You have an inordinate desire to hate religious folk who cling to a sexual ethic that doesn’t allow for homosexuality.

    • http://www.derekwilliams.net Derek Williams

      “Christian” is a moving goalpost. The only way a homosexual could find out that marrying the love of his life was “a sin” would be to go to a church which taught that. Otherwise, he or she would have absolutely no idea that something so wonderful as this mutual love that brings joy to both partners was actually hated by his creator, the very creator who knowingly made him a homosexual.

      Now here’s the thing. Someone born into a family of atheists might chance upon this idea of religion, and then be faced with which religion to choose.

      When it comes to your particular religious bias, there is no single, authoritative world religious view. There are over 41,000 denominations of Christianity alone, to say nothing of the over 70 sects of Islam, Orthodox and Reform Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism. Thus there is no single authority who can say which of this religious megastores is the Truth, since each claims that all the others are apostate.

      As an example, let’s take just two denominations of Christianity, Catholic and Anglican. The Catholic God condemns Birth Control, Women’s Ordination and Divorce, whereas the Anglican God was created by divorcee King Henry VIII and has no problem at all with female clergy or family planning. There is no rational way these two diametrically oppositional gods can be one and the same entity despite both calling themselves “Christian”.

      Moreover, I can name at least 35 denominations of Christianity who welcome LGBT with open arms, hearts and minds, with full sacraments including communion, ordination to the clergy and same sex marriage. For example, Quakers and Episcopalians. Why should THEIR religious belief not be respected too?

      Then there’s the Bible, translated into over 450 conflicting versions in English alone, never mind the over 590 in other languages. The word ‘homosexual’ did not exist in either the Ancient Hebrew of the Old Testament or the Ancient Greek of the new, as it was not invented until the 19th Century by the Austrian novelist Karl Maria Von Kertbeny and was defined along with heterosexuality by the German psychiatrist, Krafft-Ebbing. If it’s in your bible, it’s a false translation. Jesus Christ never mentioned homosexuality, at least not in any negative way, nor is it listed in Moses Ten Commandments.

      Religion is designer product. You can just choose one that fits your animus against gay people. Religion invades people’s lives and spreads unhappiness. Religion is the scourge of the homosexual, and looking at the damage done in its name in religious wars in Ireland, Iraq and Africa, I consider it is the scourge of humanity itself.

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      No, not “an inordinate desire to hate religious folk who cling to a sexual ethic that doesn’t allow for homosexuality”, but, rather, pity and compassion for human-beings who suffer from the serious mental illness that is belief in supernaturalism.

    • clive

      David C, I sincerely think it is you who must be unable to hear what this man is actually saying.

  • JD

    ‘Spineless Self loathing closet bigot tells moronic sheep to disown their own flesh and blood because his imaginary friend told him too and give them to a fictional character created by the church to answer all the questions refering to why God never does anything to help’

    Yet another Dumb Ass American – A nation full of gun carrying Morons!!

  • Jesus_Mohammed

    Such a pity to see so many people seeking to deal with this sick man’s nonsense by using that ridiculous fiction written by fearful primitive men 2000 years ago. Draw back, see the bigger picture! He’s ill. Mentally ill. His mind is full of brainwash. He needs de-indoctrinating, or re-programming. He needs the care of a mental health worker.

    • Psychologist

      As someone who works in mental health – I couldn’t agree with you more !
      There is something seriously wrong with someone, who even THINKS it’s ok to put bigoted homophobia BEFORE the welfare of any child ! His attitude is outrageous, bigoted, and highly damaging to anyone who chose to act on his advice. he is clearly mentally ill, as a result of being SO heavily conditioned into such archaic religious belief.
      He does indeed require all of that damaging conditioning UNDOING !
      His comments and vile views say far more about him, than it does about ANY victims of his abuse.

  • mike

    Why not go the whole hog and stone your own child to death? WHAT A LOONY!! What a nasty, stupid idiot! he should read his bible properly and see what his Jesus actually said and not the old testament twaddle!

  • Lady Tanya

    IT IS ALL MADE UP NONSENSE! WHEN WILL THE WILL THE WORLD WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES

  • April L. Edwards

    Why does false Christianity have so much power over the weak minded? I will never understand it.

  • Alexander Kelso Shiels

    If it was anywhere else than America I think people with views like his would be locked up for their own wellbeing. These Christians, I wonder do they talk to Jesus all the time?
    I thought he was cruxified centuries ago.

  • clive

    I regret to say I would have been quite like this had a stayed a Jehovah’s Witness. They think that shunning is good for the soul – shames them, punishes them, makes them think again about returning to God. God’s loving arrangement for ‘keeping the congregation clean’.

    This is one aspect of what fundamentalism means, and fundamentalism – in one or other of its hideous forms – is what I keep saying is likely more than anything else to bring final destruction of what’s left of humanity. (I hope I’m wrong, of course, but this disease of religion – including the ‘moderates’ which only occasionally criticise the book-believing mad minorities – has caused aeons of most of the world’s suffering).

  • Riondo

    That’s it, Reverend. Wreck families in the name of the family. Has anyone noticed how irony and totalitarianism never quite get it together?

  • Keith in SALFORD

    Another loo-loo who has totally missed the message of Christ; what a fool; no sorry, what a ‘dangerous’ fool.

    Keith.
    SALFORD

  • George Penfold

    “You have to separate them. You can’t condone that. It’s inconsistent with Christ.”
    I think he must have a different Bible to the one I have read. !

  • Samuel Thiel

    American fanatic “christianity” moves ever closer to it’s supposed enemy, fanatic islam. The common ground is “fanatic”. I disagree with the use of “fundamental” to describe these people. That word means “basic”. The basic questions regarding the two factions in this anachronistic religious conflict are; what is the name of the imaginary sky daddy, how should we show that we are his children (victims) and which of the writings of other fanatics should be regarded as immutable truth which is still open to interpretation? None of these questions are fundamental to human happiness, which seems to me to be a higher good. No one has been to either heaven or hell and come back to confirm their existence. Why? Because they don’t exist somewhere else. They are right here in the only reality there is, and this person, who is supposed to be saving souls, is working hard to provide a hell on earth for many young people. I do not believe in divine punishment for whatever people want to call sins or reward for being “good”. There is however the law of cause and effect. All of your actions, without exception, have effects in your own life. I wish more people would understand that and get over the need to be under the thumb of the sky daddy. In simple terms for this “pastor” who seems to have a limited command of the language, grow up!

    • scott

      When Islam takes over first thing there going to do is round up all you homosexuals and kill you slowly by gently and slowly cutting your penises off. Woops sorry I meant your heads, oh well with you perverts whats the difference. Better read the Islamic Quran. In Iran they put to death anyone caught in the act of homosexuality. And they will also kill the so called Christians also. But us Born From Above Christians will be safely with Jesus Christ. Personally myself, I can’t wait to see your head chopped off. Both of them. Hey you are bald, bet it is very easy to get your head out of partners ass.

    • scott

      When Islam takes over first thing there going to do is round up all you homosexuals and kill you slowly by gently and slowly cutting your penises off. Woops sorry I meant your heads, oh well with you perverts whats the difference. Better read the Islamic Quran. In Iran they put to death anyone caught in the act of homosexuality. And they will also kill the so called Christians also. But us Born From Above Christians will be safely with Jesus Christ. Personally myself, I can’t wait to see your head chopped off. Both of them. Hey you are bald, bet it is very easy to get your head out of partners ass.

  • Taurman

    Dear Rev McArthur,
    Thanks for the advice. That last story about the 789 babies in the sewer of the Nuns Convent in Ireland caused me to flip and I have disowned my rabid Catholic parents and handed them over to Satan.

  • Honest

    For someone who tells people to turn away from Satan, he sure looks like him.

  • sammy

    well if they knew the bible then they would know this

    “Bit if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever” timothy 5:8

  • sammy

    well if they knew the bible then they would know this

    “Bit if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever” timothy 5:8

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