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Newark UKIP supporter: Gay marriage is like people marrying pigs

  • Jones

    I’m not denying that UKIP have done well at European level but that is really a one issue election, very suited to UKIP. When it comes to the real issues such as health, education or social policy – as demonstrated here, UKIP stand no chance. They are not a party of government but a method for people to vent their anger at the other mainstream parties.

    • MANCHASH

      they’ve done well because unlike the Lib Dems and Greens and Plaid in Wales etc they have had a media (shamefully a broadcast media) doing their propaganda for them. Yes the Lib Dems have made mistakes but they’ve also done some very good things in Gvmt…inc equal marriage – but they get little or not coverage of it. Their achievements are constantly glossed over or airbrushed out. The Greens suffer the same. There’s a need for a complete over haul of the way politics is covered in the broadcast media especially as we now live in a multi party society

      • Jones

        I was very concerned the attention that UKIP was getting from the media, especially the BBC. In the BBC coverage of the council elections, anyone watching that would have thought that UKIP had control over most of them but they (thankfully) have control over none. I am not alone in this opinion either considering over 1,500 people have complained about the coverage too.

        I have no objection to UKIP being covered but this must be balanced, certainly with the BBC, with coverage from other parties and as you say the Greens would have been a perfect balance.

      • David H

        And were helped enormously by the low turnout. Had more people bothered to vote they would almost certainly have come in third (the smaller parties typically maximise their electorate at Euro and Local elections while the supporters of the big two tend to be the ones that stay home. A turnout of around 60% would have given them a reasonably respectable third place, but significantly behind Labour and the Tories.

    • Maryland Kid

      Except that one issue is in and of itself problematic, in that the target of people’s frustrations is not just the major parties, but also racial and ethnic minorities.

  • David H

    Interestingly enough, the most recent review of David Donegan’s hotel on Google describes it as “dire” and “all pomp and no substance” – so not surprising that he’s a UKIP supporter then.

  • Liam

    Peasants revolt… under a thatcherite party… God people are stupid.

    • Barry Scarfe

      They certainly are. UKIP are basically the batshit insane ‘Mrs Thatcher didn’t privatise our public services ect enough/globalise/asset-strip our economy enough’ wing of the Tory Party in seemingly permanent exile.

      They are an ULTRA-Thatcherite Tory Party posing as a friend of ordinary people!

      http://durotrigan.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Rotherham by- election

      • Liam

        It just boggles my mind how much working class support they seem to have, unless you’re a millionaire businessman, they ain’t your friends. I also find it confusing how a party containing so many ex tory social conservatives can be called libertarian.

        • Barry Scarfe

          I don’t find it very surprising when you consider just how ignorant and ill-informed many in the electorate are. Frankly, a very large number of voters in this country have NO IDEA AT ALL of what the various parties REALLY stand for, their underlying philosophies/ideologies ect.

          • Barry Scarfe

            The support for UKIP is largely media-driven in my estimation. The media have been giving them bundles of mostly positive publicity. Why is the Green Party not invited onto Question Time more often? Nigel Farage is on there virtually every week yet his party has NO MPs compared to the Greens.

            I really despair at the average lemming in the voting booths. If the Daily Express told them to go and jump off Beachy Head a large number of voters would actually go and do it!

            Because most of the media is actually Tory-inclined, I am confident that after the Newark By-Election they will switch off the publicity machine as they won’t want Nigel Farage and his chums in UKIP to damage Tory election chances in May next year.

        • Barry Scarfe

          UKIP IS a libertarian party at least as far as economics goes. Infact, it is DANGEROUSLY so – more even than the Tories.

          If they were genuine libertarians in other ways (ie socially) they would have no problem at all with gay civil marriage. After all, it is probably one of the most fundamentally liberatarian measures in the social sphere any government of whatever political colour can enact. Indeed, UKIP SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT of the campaign but if they had been they wouldn’t have been able to poach older anti-gay Tories from the Tory Party which they obviously saw as electorally expedient.

        • john

          The Tories have always attracted working class . bigoted, sexist, racist and homophobic characters like the 70s character on TV , Alf Garnett, who was also a staunch tory. It’s not surprising UKIP are full of character like this as well.

  • sean

    ill what what ever drug hes having

    • Rumbelow

      You sound like you’ve had enough already.

  • Steven Gregory

    Truly the intellect of the UKIP cannot be underestimated.

  • Brett Gibson

    Dear UKIP man, please don’t bring the far more civil and intelligent creature, the pig, into this.

    • Barry Scarfe

      Nice one! I suppose being a homohobe he no doubt has a problem with the word ‘marriage’ and thus the EQUAL esteem of the state, the law and civil society being attached to loving and committed relationships between TWO people of the same gender. There can be no such thing as ‘nearly equal’ under the law. If he isn’t a homophobe he will have no problem with gay CIVIL marriage and that important word ‘marriage’ attached to it so he should update his views and accept the law has moved-on and support gay CIVIL marriages too.

      • Truth

        Like every other religious objector to EQUAL marriage, they are brainwashed bigots. Religion hijacked ‘marriage’ and, because of some old novel, defined it as between a man and a woman. We’ve just claimed it back …. and they don’t like it.

  • That There Other David

    LOL. Peasants indeed!! :D

  • chrono

    Voting for Ukip is like voting for pigs to run the country.

    • Barry Scarfe

      Even your average pig has some intelligence though!

      • chrono

        True.

  • https://www.facebook.com/letthemeatcakeuk Suzie Rocky Reynolds

    Its better than marrying that Pr**k.

    • Nicola Finden

      Lol Suzie xx

    • J.

      And a little pr**k at that.

    • Rumbelow

      Same sex marriage is now obviously so uncontroversial that it is necessary for homophobes to make comparisons with and descriptions of best!al marr!ages to get any reaction.
      What a crude and pathetic bunch UKIP is made up of.

      (PN won’t allow me to write best!al marr!ages the correct way, what’s that about?)

      • Silly Old Bastard

        I have to disagree. I’ve spent some time pondering over when these snide remarks from the public over gay marriage will come to an end. The answer is never. They will never end. Gay marriage was unnecessary, and goes against the natural order. It’s upset a lot of people and for what? Are gays any happier? Reading the comments on this site, the answer is no. It seems ‘the fight for equality goes on’. LGBT now go on with this ball and chain to carry. Perhaps it’s time for the phrase ‘unrealistic expectations’ to enter LGBT vocabulary.

        • Paul J

          As snide remarks about being gay never end, the logic of your argument is that we should all kill ourselves. Imagine! Some of us have “unrealistic expectations” that moronic, arrogant idiots will let gays live and love in peace. Your name is apt.

          • Silly Old Bastard

            ” the logic of your argument is that we should all kill ourselves.”

            Please, no more of your logic.

          • Paul J

            Please no more of your stupid comments

        • Jones

          Gay marriage was unnecessary, and goes against the natural order. It’s upset a lot of people and for what? Are gays any happier?

          I should imagine the man who now has the love for his partner recognised by this country is happy, as are the many others who have finally been able to marry the person they love.

  • histamine

    lol gay people have their own news now… Is this directly funded by the Kremlin like your movement in the 80′s?

    • Lion in Winter

      You’ll find this site is full of anti-histamines, so don’t expect anyone to take you as anything more than a minor irritant.

      • histamine

        Deflection… Classic communist rhetorical tactic..

        witty… funny… yes, but that makes it no less facetious…

        • Mark Y

          Communist? Do you even know anything about communism? or is it a word your mother and father used to shout at foreigners on the TV news when you were a child? Seriously, there are more brain ells in amoebas than the trolls that come on this site.

          • histamine

            Hmmm well my dissertation was on Communism and Social Democracy…. I have only studied it for 10 years under the foremost authorities and have written two global surveys on the subject…. But I am sure your reading of Fabian propaganda gives you a greater understanding then I could ever hope to achieve…. And they say you lot aren’t mentally ill :)

    • I_M_Meen

      Yes, you keep telling yourself it’s all some left-wing conspiracy.

      The people of this country, left-wing or not, have rejected you and your poison. Get over it, or (as I suspect you will), vote for UKIP and watch as your little bigot revolution falls flat on its arse next year… before going back to pretending it’s all some communist plot.

      UKIP: the party for people only half as likely as the average member of the general public to have finished school.

      • histamine

        Umm the ussr fell… we have the documents :)
        Not saying you are conspirators, just communist tools… Also youre hetero-anglophobic and you should be ashamed….

        • I_M_Meen

          So the Soviet Union, in which homosexuality was illegal, conspired to promote gay rights in the West in order to “undermine” us?

          Assuming such an insane conspiracy theory has any truth to it: remind me how that worked out?

          • histamine

            Worked out okay… The influence operations are still running autonomously and I had a good laugh when the rainbow dragon they unleashed came back around to attack them at the Olympics. Good times

        • J.

          Can you possibly get any more ‘thick’?
          “Communist tools”?; “Hetero-Anglophobic”? HAHAHAHAHA
          Communism bans homosexuality, so why on earth would any of us be communist? I bet you think the BBC has a left-wing bias. Also, most of the followers of the pink news website are English, so hardly “Anglophobic”. Your IQ must be in single figures, but then I suppose you’re only a UKIP supporter so I shouldn’t expect anything else.
          Anyway, thanks for giving us all someone to laugh at.

          • histamine

            lol did you really just suggest communism bans homosexuality… You should probably do some reading… Anglophobe… Also I don’t use terms like “left wing”(unless I am talking hockey), because we have no revolutionary traditions in the Commonwealth… silly socialist… Go back to the barbarians on the mainland where you belong…

    • James!

      You mother sucks còcks in hell.

      • Silly Old Bastard

        I’ve flagged your comment. When PN come to review it, I ask that they ban you for 12 months, not for ever. This in the hope that by this time next year, you might have grown up a little.

        • James!

          Suck my balls Bîtch

          • Silly Old Bastard

            Email notification has you as James! Why did you feel the need to change your name to Denis ?

        • lord thorpe

          Don’t forget to tell your Mum as well, when you are reunited!

      • histamine

        At least shes not mentally ill like you…

  • Christopher in Canada

    Well, if you can get the pig to agree to the union and sign a marriage contract. go for it. At least it will poo in one corner and sleep and eat in another.

  • Mikey

    OK, I KNOW my husband doesn’t exactly pick up after himself very well.. but from there to calling him a “pig” is a step too far!

  • ian123

    I think a lot of people may be in for a shock when UKIP are forced to reveal their domestic agenda in the run up to the general election. Anything but a “peasant’s” revolt, more a financiers beanfeast.

    • Barry Scarfe

      Indeed. Nigel Farage was a broker in the City of London and infact his ‘opposition’ to EU membership has far more to do with his concerns about possible EU regulation of the City and of businesses (eg enforcing certain minimum workers’ rights) than it does with restoring our national sovereignty.

      UKIP is a party of GLOBALIST Thatcherite economic values and would like to see the banks and City of London regulated even less than they were under Gordon Brown.

  • kane

    not sure about ukip supporter but i would rather eat the pig than marry it

  • MANCHASH

    This is why the Liberal Democrats and liberals in ALL parties and none must stand up and be counted….whatever you think of the Lib Dems they are the complete opposite of this barbarism.

  • Neil Rhodes

    I wonder, PinkNews, would it be possible to stop publishing articles about this or that UKIP member/supporter and whatever verbal bollocks they’ve decided to spew today?

    Instead, how about we endeavour to ignore them, much like nasty children, and perhaps the lack of attention will make them shut up and, with any luck, disappear entirely?

    • http://www.wdmusicproductions.com WayneMPLS

      I see comments similar to yours often when you read the crazy stories about the Tea Party and Republicans in our country. I agree with you but what has happened here (besides the obvious disgust for their insanity) is that it has pushed many people away from religion or if not away from religion, it has made people energized about our cause. Anything that can move people towards reason is wonderful, in my opinion. That doesn’t stop the media from reporting on these types of stories but in many ways I think it works in our favor. No one wants to be associated with the wing nuts and because of our visibility, most people have a family member or dear friend who is LGBT and they begin to see these vile comments for what they are – bigotry. I say let ‘em hang themselves and history will show them for what they really were. It is sad to watch the UK slide rightward though.

  • Truth

    Diidn’t Hitler say something similar about Jewish people? UKIP obviously attracts the lowest common denominator. They are just the BNP with better marketing.

    • Barry Scarfe

      Not as far as the subject of economics goes. The BNP has far more centrist or even slightly left-wing leanings as regards the subject of the economy.

      The BNP supports the kind of paternalist economics practiced by the likes of Japan and South Korea which have shown it is perfectly possible to have a vibrant national economy outside the model of complete ‘laissez faire’/’let the market rip’ so beloved of Tory Thatcherites.

    • Jones

      They are just the BNP with better marketing.

      Courtesy of the BBC.

    • histamine

      Actually.. I think it was Hitlers gay friend who said that….

  • MaxMinko

    VOTE Labour in 2015, dont let Cameron and UKIP be at the helm. UKIP are just purple Tories.

    • Barry Scarfe

      UKIP are far more likely to cause the Tories to lose than they are to be able to form a Tory/UKIP coalition.

      The fact is, whilst they have been taking SOME voters away from the Labour Party it is only in the region of (on average) 7% or so. UKIP’s current support is derived from people who voted Tory last time (about 50-60%), people who haven’t voted in a longtime, about 10-20% of Lib Dems (the ones who habitually voted Lib Dem not because they were ardent Lib Dems but because they hated Tories and Labour), people who voted UKIP last time and some ex-BNP supporters.

      • Barry Scarfe

        The movement of voters from Tory to UKIP has been a great deal larger than any movement of Labour voters to them and that is explained by UKIP’s ultra-Thatcherite policies and their stance on tax.

        Why should your average Labour voter endorse a flat tax policy which would see a dustbin man pay the same as a duke?

        • David H

          I’ve no idea why, but here in the North East Midlands they seem to have been courting “old Labour” voters in large numbers.

          I think their impact on the Tory vote at the next election isn’t going to be as significant as many believe. The swivel-eyed loons traditionally like to put the wind up the Tory elite whenever they veer to far to the (relative) left; but they’d never risk splitting the vote in a General Election.

          It SHOULD be a total contradiction, but I think (in the northern half of the country at least), Labour has more to worry about over UKIP than the Tories.

          • Barry Scarfe

            The Labour Party has apparently set-up a special attack unit within the party to highlight to Labour voters in the North and elsewhere UKIP’s dangerously extreme economic polices and their loony tax flat tax policy which would see a dustman paying the same in tax as a duke.

            It sure should be a total contradiction. Considering how much the North suffered under Mrs Thatcher’s asset-stripping globalist monetarist economic policies (aka Thatcherism) then why in the hell are voters there voting for a party that is quite literally ‘Thatcherism on steroids’?

            I think what all this goes to show is that if the media puff you you have a good chance of obtaining votes from a thick and ill-informed electorate. I despair at just how stupid many in the British electorate are!

  • monica

    My grandfather taught not to expect more from a pig than a grunt. So on that basis I will argue that Roger might be correct ~ someone might just want to marry him. Keep on grunting Roger, you just might get lucky.

  • Katie

    “Newark UKIP supporter: Gay marriage is like people marrying pigs”
    He needn’t worry; actually the likelihood of a gay person marrying a UKIP supporter is exceedingly low.

  • Chris in LA

    It seems to me that a large number of people have married pigs over the years. No one objected.

  • Maryland Kid

    I don’t understand. How is being in a loving, commuted relationship with someone of the same-sex remotely similar to marrying a UKIP supporter?

  • http://www.tumblr.com/blog/spitefuel Spitefuel

    Well worth visiting Trip Advisor to review the hotel.

  • J.

    I’d rather marry a pig than be a UKIP supporter.

    • Rumbelow

      Apparently you can’t write best!al marr!age here in response to an article referring to same, what’s that all about?

    • lord thorpe

      I think it is very likely that by marrying a pig you would also be marrying a UKIP supporter! That’s probably a good reason to ban marriage completely. That would be equality!

  • MarkN

    That’s a coincidence….Listening to UKIP supporters talking is like hearing pigs grunting…..though I’d expect more sense out of pigs….

  • allan

    This old geezer is just plain stupid. Can you imagine a country run by loons like him. Don’t because would be apocalyptic in it Mad Max sort if way.
    Welcome to the Blunderdome.
    Ask him what he thinks about immigrants, unmarried mums, people on benefits, blacks, Jews, frogs legs anything not part of his drab little life and see the spew he produces

  • Pádráig O’Gáirmléadháigh

    When this UKIP moron marries his pig, how does he intrnd to elicit the necessary consent from said pig…..???

  • Guest

    Share this pic widely. Farage wants it deleted from the Interweb. Notice that he is making this vile gesture right in front of a child and Policeman….

    • Robert W. Pierce

      Try as he might, he is the establishment, public school education, worked for a bank, in fact UKIP is as much as part of the establishment as the Tory mother party. There’s only so far right they can go then the people will knock them down. There are rumours Cameron may call for the EU referendum before 2017, I suspect before next May. Now that would really blow UKIP supporters out of the water.

  • Guest

    SHARE

  • Pádráig O’Gáirmléadháigh

    This link is to a photo of Nigel Farage which said Farage wants deleted from the interweb.. Share as much as you can…https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202396531927830&set=a.1136632089194.2021644.1029103645&type=1&theater

    • Rumbelow

      If that photo is real I’m too impressed, it makes me like Farage more than I should, I’d say no don’t share this , he looks too amazing.
      whereas the real thing
      http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-04/enhanced/webdr05/29/7/enhanced-9977-1398769530-5.jpg

      • Pádráig O’Gáirmléadháigh

        Oh, puhleeeze! He has been trying desperately to have it removed from the ‘net. I think it is vile and in front of a child too….#buffoon

        • Christopher in Canada

          Ok, I’m from Canada – what does this two-finger gesture mean? No one does it over here, whether now or in the 80′s when I assume the photo was originally taken. I know what one finger means…

          • @Mike-uk2011

            It’s pretty much the same thing as the middle finger gesture. We use both types to offend people, in the UK

    • Katie

      Hmmm…Farage wouldn’t have tried this on if this had been the c. late ’70s San Francisco Police Department and the cop had been Dirty Harry whose face in the next scene would have twitched in anger, seconds before turning around, whipping out his magnum and delivering the line: ” Do you feel lucky? Go ahead punk make my day….”:)

  • TomW

    PN is showing how to take something which a mere UKIP supporter has said, and to spin it into something completely different. Note that the gentleman is not a member of UKIP, but just a supporter.

    The supporter (who believes that civil partnerships are fine, so cannot be accused of being homophobic) said: ” … gay marriage is appalling nonsense. The next thing they will be saying is we should be marrying pigs.”

    The writer of the article starts the spin: “A UKIP supporter in Newark has claimed that same-sex marriage is “appalling” and will lead to people “marrying pigs”.

    Notice that the supporter merely said that that gay marriage was extreme nonsense, and did NOT say that it will lead to people marrying pigs.

    Whoever writes the headlines to PN’s stupid articles spins some more: “Gay marriage is like people marrying pigs”.

    This article is worth preserving for future reference to show the hysterical, appalling nonsense published by the homosexual (etc) media.

    • kane

      dont be ridicules, ukip members keep banging on about how the gay marriage will cause all sort of disasters including floods. so stop moaning

      • TomW

        dont be ridicules yuresefl an stop moaning! the artikels hedline and opening paragrafs focussed on what a single (that meens wun) supporter sed.

        I am keeping this article and stupid comments like yours for a future blog on the silliness of activists.

        • kane

          well you are being ridicules. we keep hearing that people voting for racist, xenophobic and homophobic ukip are not bigots, well this supporter shows that’s not entirely true and its obvious that majority of ukip voters share his sentiment.

        • kane

          ‘…(that meens wun) supporter sed…’

          is that english?

        • lord thorpe

          Wouldn’t that make you an activist too? Are you are going to post some of your own silly remarks?

  • Maggie

    Don’t worry UKIP, people already marry pigs. I married one back in 1960.

  • Pol

    Come on – this really scrapes the bottom of the barrel. UKIP is a nasty backwards party but this person isnt a UKIP councillor or party representative and the headline is a bit sensational.

  • Halou

    “Civil partnership is absolutely fine, but….”
    I’m sure that 10 years ago this person was just as opposed to civil partnerships as he is to equal marriage today. Give it 10 years and he will be on about some other issue saying: “Equal marriage is absolutely fine, but….”

  • Psychologist

    But who would want to marry a UKIP supporter ?

    • lord thorpe

      A pig!

      • Psychologist

        I would suggest that a pig may prefer to become someone’s bacon sandwich than endure that fate !

  • Jock S.Trap

    Have to be honest, bit disappointed in Pink News. I know this is from the Guardian but seriously, we now report on UKIP Supporters?

    My big fear is the effect of UKIP seems to be almost making it cool to be racist, homophobic, sexist…. This is the problem the British Media are creating and I fear the problem will increase as long as the British media give them coverage. Fact is we all know the basic elements of UKIP and the fact many of the supporters have clearly low IQ’s if they think they are for the working class. It’s a case of UKIP voters be careful what you wish for.

    UKIP promotes through fear and feeds the nasty.

  • @Mike-uk2011

    And a sane person voting for UKIP is akin to hitting themselves over the head with a sledgehammer.

  • Denis

    Gay marriage supporter: So is straight marriage like people marrying a UKIP member???

  • WildTom

    Random bloke says something offensive… UKIP to blame.

  • JohnnyPink

    Can’t you all see this is just another manufactured non-story by the left wing media to discredit a party that is actually the country’s best hope for the future? We need to take our democracy back, to get our country and our borders back. UKIP doesn’t support a flat tax rate any more, never did want to sell off the NHS, doesn’t want to gas Romanians… Stop talking crap.

    • Psychologist

      You’re deluded – and VERY misinformed – and obviously a UKIP supporter ! That says it all !
      UKIP is FULL of bigots and homophobes ! Do you really expect any gay people to support a party full of people such as Helmer, and many others ?

  • Benjie Watson

    It’s also very hard to envisage having a Christian faith or any religious faith for that matter, when so many bigoted, outspoken, imbeciles exist, making derogatory comments about others in society as people like this man and Mr Helmer do. I was raised a Christian, myself, but I’ve since lost my faith, purely because of people like this. I still have a bible, but I don’t take it literally. I’ve considered burning it out of a feeling of fraternity with all the oppressed people in this world, gay and just different in some way; but I can’t bring myself to do it because it was given to me for my Christening by someone who died recently. So, instead I lock it away in a box and try to forget about it. I suppose it just goes to show how some choices in life are not so straight forward as we might hope them to be. UKIP appears to be a voice for the simplistic, poorly considered opinions in the UK at the moment. It’s by no means representative of the voice of the majority.

    • Matt Charman

      I feel that pain. I by contrast started as a die-hard anti-theist and slowly became a moderate Christian. Moderation, tolerance and empathy are the cornerstones of civilised society. And I am appalled by the way that UKIP’s vicious extremists attempt to hide behind religion or tradition to justify their abysmal views. Religious or secular, I have found that it is people willing to have regard for others, to access differences and promote tolerance who are decent, if you like ‘godly’ people. At the same time, my experiences of extremists – including to my shame my own behaviour as a militant anti-theist in my late teen years – have pointed to the fact that extremists and the intolerant are always the worst of mankind.Let’s just hope that regardless of our beliefs we can leave them all behind eventually.

    • Psychologist

      Indeed Benjie – Well said. I agree with you in many of your point.
      I think many people who have been “brought up as Christian” feel the same way. What “perhaps” started out as a good thing, has been hijacked by lunatics with extremist views, and people who are in it ONLY for the enormous wealth and power it brings THEM !

      As for the bible- it is more used today as a tool with which to somehow “legitimise” people’s OWN bigotry and discriminatory, and frankly “inhumane” attitudes to others. (especially gay people) Any book or belief system which can facilitate that, SHOULD be burned, in my view.

      You only have to read sections in the old testament (such as Leviticus) to see how positively evil and psychologically damaged whoever wrote those sections, must have been – yet over 2000 years later, SOME people still use those words as legitimisers for their OWN bigotry !

      Religions — worst thing ever invented, and is the source of more wars, terrorism, bloodshed, hatred, violence and pain, than any other single thing on the planet !

      We would have a much better world in which to live – without it !

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