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Nigel Farage defends UKIP candidate, claims ‘most’ over-70s feel uncomfortable about gays

  • @Mike-uk2011

    …”he’s somebody of 70 years of age who grew up with a strong Christian Bible background.”

    Then someone should inform him that it’s not the 1940s or a nation that’s overwhelmingly Christian any more either. We’ve progressed. Well… clearly not all of us have.

  • Sparkyu1

    UKIP, still supporting and defending homophobia

  • Jon (Malaysia)

    I’m 62, and I admired people 8 years older than me in the 60’s (that’s the 1960’s for you young uns) for being so cool! Meanwhile, I’ve just been watching the world finally catch up to the 1960’s ideas and attitudes. It’s been a long wait.

  • Daniel

    UKIP and Farage lurch from one bad PR disaster to another, with clearly not a care in the world.
    Be homophobic all you wish; so long as that does not translate into the ability to make laws, there is no harm done.

  • That There Other David

    Back when Roger Helmer was growing up racism was quite acceptable too. What’s good old Nige trying to tell us here? That it’s OK to be a prejudiced toss bag if you’re old?

    No Nigel, it’s not OK. Not for anyone.

    • Rumbelow

      They were culturally brainwashed to think homosexuality was bad back then via religion and state sponsored homophobia, so they are uncomfortable with their own same sex attractions as well as the fact that other people are gay and when they see well adjusted out gay people they feel uncomfortable, they are the ones with the problem, give them counselling help on the NHS if it’s a problem for them.

    • CHBrighton

      I think Roger Helmer’s attitudes are a result of an impoverished mind. Really, many people of his age were fighting racism in the 60s as well as beginning to challenge homophobia. He seems to have been troubled that the world wasn’t as he wished it to be so has been peddling a strand of authoritarian politics ever since.

  • David H

    Wrong again, Nigel. In my experience, most older people don’t have an issue with people being gay. They’ve lived through so much hardship that they tend to be more accepting of people finding happiness in whatever form it takes.

  • markn

    Is it ok to be “uncomfortable” about black People? What a joke.

    • Tobias573

      … and is it OK, Mr Farrage, to be uncomfortable about people who are over 70?

      • CHBrighton

        Maybe people who are over 70 and can’t cope with the modern world don’t have a right to be trying to enter Parliament or representing our country in Brussels.

    • David H

      I have to confess that I’m very uncomfortable about UKIP and their bigots

  • James!

    Although ukip are quite nasty they still have a lot of support. That’s what I find quite scary in 2014

  • Ray

    Albert Einstein: “Nationalism is a childish disease- the measles of mankind”
    Dr Johnson : “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel”
    Dear old Oscar Wilde: “Patrotism is the last refuge of the vicious”..
    When I was growing up in the late 50’s and 60’s, No Blacks, No Irish, and later No DSS (This last still extant in some private rentals it seems!) But neither my grandparents nor parents accepted such (There were more enlightened people even then). My Nan could slice up a rightwing tory – or even a Macmillan era one) politically. Once saw her chase an unwary one down the garden path- after arguing circles round him- avec ‘poker’ in hand!!! (But then she saw two world wars, 1930’s dire Stanley Baldwin policies post ‘Depression’ etc..)
    Such a pity some of the old these days seem still to hang on to little england/ post Empire depression attitudes. You’d think after Thatcher destroying industry people would by now welcome new progressive ideas rather than hiding behind demogogic nationalist bunkum…

    • Rai

      No DSS is the norm these days, you’ll find. Even if it’s not mentioned on the notice, that’ll be the first question. So poor people are made to be serfs, who can’t even move.

      • David H

        You’re right Rai, but I’ve never understood the logic behind the reasoning. Surely if the DSS are paying the rent on behalf of the tenant, it reduces the chances of arrears, so would make them a lower risk to the landlord? Or am I missing something glaringly obvious?

  • atalanta

    UKIP, the party of the future! (Provided its members are still around to enjoy it.)

  • Mark Y

    Oh well, that’s okay then, he’s over 70. He can be racist, homophobic, probably thinks a Woman’s place is in the home, that Enoch Powell was a great Man, and that rations should be brought back, and we should all understand it. What a joke. The UKIP CLOWN party.

  • Gary Powell

    Helmer made the homophobic comments attributed to him ten years ago, when he was 60. Regardless of the fundamentalist Christian nonsense he was brainwashed with in his childhood, he had plenty of years in the interim to allow the evidence of his own eyes and of his own reasoning to lead him to a more enlightened and less asocial attitude towards LGBT people.

    The fact his prejudices remained so entrenched reflects badly both on his emotional intelligence and (related) on his compassion for other people’s suffering. And someone who has shown so little capacity for emotional intelligence and compassion by the age of 60 is not someone the British people deserve in our Parliament.

    That goes for Farage, too. He stitched up the UK LGBT community over equal marriage so as to grab votes from religious bigots. And he can keep his excuses for homophobia among some over-70s. (Again, Helmer was 60 when he made the comments.) Being over 70 is no excuse for racism, either. The world has been moving on for a long time, and the over-70s should have been moving with it.

    • Truth

      I was nine when I rejected religious brainwashing. What’s his excuse for continuing to support it ….?

      • David H

        I was a little younger than you and remember quite a heated argument with my mother (who used the word “atheist” in absolute disgust) when I reached the logic, upon learning that there was no Father Christmas, that God must be similarly made up. She still says I was a difficult child.

        • Truth

          Well, well done for breaking free, David! Organised religion has always been about money and power over the poor and powerless (American TV evangelists understand this VERY well). However, they are rapidly losing both and they don’t like it. I really think it’s time for a complete separation of church and state in the UK. We have the audacity to lecture the word on the merits of democracy while allowing forty unelected bishops to sit in the House of Lords …. ludicrous in a modern society.

  • Mangochutney

    It’s amazing we all get upset about someone not being comftable with the LBGT community and don’t care a toss about the other 3 parties that giving away our democracy and freedom. we loose them then we will really have something to worry about. See the bigger picture people.

    • Gary Powell

      It is perfectly possible to be opposed to the homophobia of UKIP luminaries and opposed to membership of the EU at the same time.

      Just because I want the UK to leave the EU, it doesn’t mean I should have to put up with homophobia from Ukip candidates, or vote for a party that sold LGBT people down the river on equal marriage in order to grab votes from social reactionaries who opposed David Cameron’s support for equal marriage. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/05/05/comment-ukip-is-hoist-by-its-own-petard-because-of-its-same-sex-marriage-opposition/

      The best way of getting the UK out of the EU is to vote Conservative in the 2015 general election, who will give us an in-out referendum in 2017. A vote for Ukip instead of the Conservatives will make a Labour victory more likely, who will deny us a referendum on leaving the EU.

      • Truth

        Why would you want out of an organisation that has done more for gay rights in the past 20 years that our own government did in the past 500 years? Yes, it needs reform. But it’s better to be in where we can negotiate for our best interests. The world is getting smaller as co-operation gets bigger. Do you really think this funny little island, with no significant natural resources or manufacturing, could survive the modern world on its own ….?

        • Gary Powell

          The EU has done excellent work in promoting LGBT rights. But LGBT rights are not the only important political issue, regardless of how strongly we as LGBT people are attached to it. The question is one of national sovereignty. Being able to make our own decisions across a whole range of issues, rather than having decisions imposed on us by Brussels. Being independent from the EU does not imply we will no longer be able to trade with EU states.

          Being a member of the EU is causing us to lose confidence in ourselves, and to lose our sense of having the potential to be a powerful, cohesive and successful national family. Your comment, “Do you really think this funny little island, with no significant natural resources or manufacturing, could survive the modern world on its own ….?” is a pretty good example of this, if I may say so.

          Although the EU has done great work in the area of LGBT rights, it is perfectly possible for LGBT rights to be advanced without the EU. Take our own country, for example. The EU has not imposed same-sex adoption rights or equal marriage on the UK. We have that legislation, and we have arrived at it independently. In respect of both, we are for instance well ahead of Germany, where equal marriage and same-sex adoption are still illegal. And let’s bear in mind that the USA does not belong to the EU, and yet it is continuing to make colossal progress in the area of LGBT rights.

          • David H

            In response to that point, the US is a federal body that operates more like the EU than any one sovereign nation.

            As a pro-European, I am the first to admit that the EU needs to progress from where it is, but the UK should be a part of that – ideally one of the key architects. The world is a much smaller place than it was in 1975, international travel is much quicker and globilisation has happened.

            The next key players are Africa (as a continent) and the Indian sub-continent (again a collective of, not always, harmonious countries).

            Personally, I think the in-out argument was (correctly) decided in 1975. The debate now should be how to better develop Europe – not pull out.

          • Eduard

            As a non-British person I admire the advance of equal rights in the UK. But instead of protesting against the EU, why not try to help us out with LGBT rights on the EU level? Some of the EU countries, which are still well behind, would benefit greatly from your experience and authority. Showing some sense of unity and initiative would give the UK an upper hand in the EU.

    • halling

      ‘We’?

      • Mangochutney

        Yes we !

  • halling

    There may be a ‘generational’ issue here but many of the unpleasant comments from UKIP candidates are from those who grew up in the ‘age of equality’.If, as Farage claims the party isn’t racist etc., why defend the sad individuals making the hateful comments. This sad coffin dodger has money…yes, that’s it!

  • Joe

    The list just keeps getting bigger and bigger doesn’t it?

  • http://twrl.github.com/ Tom Robbins

    Defending your candidate by saying that they’re massively out-of-touch and unrepresentative of the population seems like a bit of an own goal to me.

    • Truth

      Exactly! Nigel Far-right-rage seems to be saying, “Please excuse this candidate: he’s an old religious bigot’. As leader, shouldn’t he be saying, “We’re a forward-thinking, modern, go-ahead party. Please vote for us’? Instead, he seems quite pleased that is fellow party members are stuck in the 1930s.

      • CHBrighton

        And like a leader from the 1930s, Farage has announced tonight that he has a posse of bodyguards around him to protect him. And just leaders from the 1930s, he says he wants protecting from ‘violent left wing anti-fascists’. Frankly, this Ukip business is getting out of hand.

  • Gay Socialist and proud of it.

    Vote UKIP? You got to be joking. Racist, sexist and homophobic, plus lots more.
    UKIP has not only attracted the extreme right of the Tory Party, but also former members of BNP. As someone recently told me “UKIP are the BNP without skinheads”.
    And as for who it is best to vote for, well that’s your call.
    Personally I am not taken in with the nonsense put out by the Tories that they will give us a referendum on Europe. The UK already had a referendum on whether we stay or leave. Why do we have to keep asking for another referendum.. It’s not about letting the British people decide is all about keeping the Tory Party from tearing itself apart.
    And the Tories gave us gay marriage! No they didn’t, if Labour and the Lib Dems had not voted for it then the right in the Tory Party would have destroyed the prospect of same sex marriage. So stop fooling yourself.

    • Gary Powell

      The last referendum on whether to stay a member of the EU (then the EEC) was in 1975. Plenty of UK voters alive today were not alive then, or were too young to vote in that referendum. And there have been many changes to the EEC/EU since that referendum took place. Don’t you think the electorate today should be able to decide whether or not it is something we want to continue to be a part of?

      Just like LGBT rights, the issue of EU membership is not a party-political issue. It is neither left-wing nor right-wing to want to leave the EU or to want to stay in it. Just as there are people on the Right who want to leave the EU, there are people on the Right who want to stay in it. The same can be said for the Left. Tony Benn wanted a referendum on the EU as he thought the UK should leave it. He said the EU was “most bureaucratic, terrifying system in the world and it’s being imposed on us on the grounds it’s tidying-up.”

      It is a pity that dire Ukip have come to be inextricably associated in so many people’s minds with wanting to leave the EU.

      Regarding your comment on equal marriage: LGBT rights are neither a left-wing nor a right-wing issue. It was an issue on which all the big political parties worked together to bring about a great result. It would not have happened without Labour and the Lib Dems. But it would also not have happened in this Parliament without David Cameron and practically the whole Cabinet who supported it. If the PM had not backed this, it would not have happened until some time in the future, under a different government. So that fact needs to be honoured as well.

      • CHBrighton

        After the 1975 referendum it was generally agreed that the matter was settled. We were finally in the club we’d been trying to join for many years. The changes that have taken place within the EU were all fully debated in Westminster by our MPs under our system of representative democracy. In other words, Britain agreed with all those changes. Indeed, with regards to enlargement eastwards in the 1990s and e 2000s Britain was a vocal supporter of change. While there have been a handful of anti EU left-wingers, the numbers are so small that it is disingenuous of you to imply as you do that being anti-EU is of both left and right. The anti-EU brigade, here as elsewhere, are overwhelmingly right wing; many of them nastily so. I might be more appeasing of the anti-EU campaigners if I though they might wish to enhance our domestic democracy, but they don’t. We’ve never had a vote for our head of state,for the upper house of our parliament or for myriad public posts which are filled by place men and women. We have never even had one referendum on our membership of any other international body, whereas the one we had on the EU in 1975 had a 75% Yes vote.

        Again I think you are being disingenuous about Tory support for equal marriage. Cameron was against the repeal of Clause 28 and other equalising legislation. Why he decided to push for same sex marriage, perhaps only Lynton Crosby knows. But

        • Gary Powell

          Well, perhaps I am deluded, and perhaps we do live in the black-and-white world you describe. People perhaps do fit into neat little boxes with no confusing complications such as those who were reactionary in the past changing their minds about things for genuine and positive reasons.

          Perhaps the Times/Populus poll was wrong that showed opposition to EU membership being pretty rife in the population across the political spectrum. The poll indicated that 56 percent of Conservative voters, 37 percent of Labour voters and 35 percent of Liberal Democrats would opt to leave the EU: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100199825/53-percent-of-british-voters-want-to-leave-the-eu-barack-obama-and-david-cameron-should-take-note/

          Apart from leaving the EU, there are many more institutional reforms that are needed in the UK, and that will hopefully evolve. You mentioned some in your list. Call me misguided, but the logic, “Person X supports Y. Y is a bad thing. Person X also supports Z. Therefore Z must also be a bad thing” does not work for me.

          • David H

            I’m not sure that the poll you reference was wrong, but in the intervening months the balance has certainly shifted.

            The latest polls I have seen show more people wanting to stay in the EU than leave; although neither with an outright majority (http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/03/26/eu-referendum-highest-lead-two-years/).

            When the caveat question was added about the treaty being renegotiated, the demographic shifted to 52% in favour of staying in (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/uk-britain-politics-europe-idUKBREA2A0TQ20140311).

            CHBrighton is right in that the majority of anti-EU feeling is right wing and I certainly take your point about 37% of Labour voters opting to leave the EU as, in my experience, many grass routes Labour supporters can be very right wing in their beliefs (it’s no lie that a lot of the UKIP support is coming from Labour voters).

            I’d be surprised if the Liberal anti-EU feeling were really that high as, typically, the Lib-Dems are the most pro European.

            Ironically, the poster boy of the right wing (who, originally was a Liberal), Winston Churchill – famously favoured a United States of Europe back in the late-40s. Although, at the time he believed that Britain wasn’t ready for integration into Europe; but, obviously, the world has moved on at a startling rate in the 60-odd years since.

            A lot of it comes down to personal beliefs. Many of the reasons cited by the anti-EU brigade tend to be the reasons why I prefer being a part of Europe. There’s also a lot of ignorance in terms of checking facts and figures, particularly when being bandied about by charlatans like Farage.

            Personally, I struggle with Cameron’s decision to hold the in-out referendum because he’s simply pandering (in my opinion) to try and gain ground from UKIP and I would have more respect for his policy if he laid out the facts of the benefits, and downsides, of being in the EU. Thus I’m tending to respect Milliband’s stance of saying that there’s no reason to hold one at this time as nothing’s actually changed.

            That said, I’m not a massive believer in referendums anyway – the politicians are being elected to take these decisions and the bulk of the British electorate are too idle to research facts properly so tend to vote whichever way their favoured tabloid tells them to (c.f. the voting referendum the other year, which was an absolute farce and there was no real unbiased information campaign).

          • CHBrighton

            People may be opposed to the EU for emotional reasons such as believing that pooling sovereignty means losing sovereignty or that goodness knows how many million Europeans are on their way to Britain to steal jobs or any other sort of nonsense that is being peddled to frighten people to the anti-EU cause. One thing I note among my Conservative friends is an unwillingness to consider opposing voices such as this reasonable assessment by Reuters of what could well happen to Britain outside the EU: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/06/27/uk-britain-eu-idUKBRE85Q0Q820120627
            For myself, as well as feeling that leaving the EU is a naive proposition in today’s interconnected world, I am aghast at the thought of a British government leading us out of other international European bodies such as the EHRC which has been a driving force for good in all our LGBT lives. Where would we be without Europe, and where on earth will we be without Europe and its institutions. I submit that we would not be in a very good place.

      • Mark Y

        Equal marriage is a left wing issue, that’s why the right wing parties did not wote for equal marriage, and the keft wing parties did vote for it. If it weren’t for labour and the lib dems we wouldn’t have equal marriage. David Cameron is to be respected for bringing the policy forward, but the majority of tories voted against it – you need to remember that.

        • Gary Powell

          Why would the Conservative Prime Minister, practically every Conservative Cabinet member, and almost half of all Conservative MPs present, vote for a Bill promoting a “left-wing issue”?

          • David H

            Equality is typically a left wing issue by definition (not just equal marriage).

            I fully respect Cameron’s bringing the vote to the Commons, and history will record his name as being the PM who introduced the bill.

            The reality is that we have a coalition government. Equal marriage was very much the ideology of the Lib Dems. The Tories do not have sufficient MPs to run a successful minority government with DUP support, so couldn’t run the risk of the coalition failing or, worse still, losing the vote and the opposition calling for a no confidence motion tied to their handling of the equality issue. The coalition may have introduced fixed term parliaments, but the government must still have the confidence of the House of Commons or it has to go to the people.

            I think the reality was little more than a numbers game.

          • Gary Powell

            The campaign for equal marriage within the Conservative Party had been gathering momentum for some years, to the extent that the Conservative Party included a commitment to investigate its possibility in the 2010 election manifesto document, which was reported on in the Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7673224/Gay-couples-could-be-allowed-to-marry-under-Tory-election-plans.html

            This was *prior* to the general election, and therefore prior to the coalition with the Lib Dems.

            The Conservative Party has been nothing less than appalling on LGBT rights in the past. I have written a piece for Pink News that sets out some of the detail: http://bit.ly/14Lpdmu.

            There is a lot of misinformation about with regard to the current Conservative Party and LGBT rights. The maxim seems to be, “The Conservatives are thoroughly, intrinsically and necessarily bad, so if they have done anything to support LGBT rights, it is only because they have been forced to by another body, or because they think they can gain some advantage because of it.” Given the damage the Conservative Party has done to LGBT people in the past (including me), it will take some time for the harm to its reputation to be undone. But I firmly believe in giving credit where credit is genuinely due. And I really dislike unfair propaganda based on misinformation and cynicism – whether it is directed towards the Conservatives, Labour, the Lib Dems or Ukip.

          • David H

            I know the equality issue was on the Tory agenda pre-2010 although, as you say it was nothing more than a commitment to investigate. I think even most conservatives accept that the pushing ahead with the bill was a sweetener for the Lib Dems.

            While, personally, I tend to be centre-left, I’m not an ardent supporter of any of the parties and have always voted according to the manifesto of the party at each Election (not that they ever stick to them). I did even vote for the Tories in 1992.

            I think it’s also easy as well to forget that the Conservative party is a broad church ranging from centre-right to the more right wing. So it would be ingenuous of me to condemn the whole party. I share equally mixed views about the Labour party, I’m comfortable with the more centre elements and less so with the far left.

            I’m certainly not one for spreading propaganda nor misinformation. Quite the opposite, I wish everyone would thoroughly research things and then make their own personal judgements based on FACTS.

            I will certainly confess to being cynical – especially where politicians are concerned because we’ve all seen politicians of all parties sit there and claim that X=Y and then argue the exact opposite when sitting on the other side of the House. So I will make no apologies for being cynical.

            Likewise, as an ardent believer in democracy and a member of the electorate of this country, I believe that I have not only the right, but also the duty to challenge any politician or party on their manifesto. If they want my vote they have to EARN it and, sadly, that’s something they tend to forget.

          • Gary Powell

            You say, “I think even most conservatives accept that the pushing ahead with the bill was a sweetener for the Lib Dems.” I am a member of the Conservative Party. I haven’t met a single Conservative who has expressed the belief you attribute to “most Conservatives”.

            Supporting this issue came at a great cost to the Conservative Party in terms of members and voters lost as a result of it. There were tens of thousands of the former and hundreds of thousands of the latter. David Cameron came under fierce opposition from religious dogmatists and traditionalists both within and outside his Party. Yet he went ahead with it, with great determination. I know you confess to being cynical, but surely this would be a disproportionately high cost to be a mere “sweetener” for the Lib Dems.

          • David H

            As you say in your second paragraph, the decision came at a cost to the party from some of its traditionalists and they are among the ones I am referring to in the “most conservatives.” I’ve also read reports that a significant number of their MPs also believe that it was a compromise to the Lib Dems.

            It may seem a high price but, in coalition, sometimes high prices are necessary. The Lib Dems knew that sacrificing their principles on tuition fees would impact them severely and the opinion polls seem to suggest that has been the case.

            Again, I’m a supporter of coalition governments as they help to contain the more extreme ideologies within any single party, but always at a cost.

  • REALrenovato

    Another attempt by Nigel Farage to defend the indefensible.

    My Gran who died at the age of 84 when I was twelve (some time ago) was very supportive of gay people and thought we were just the same as everyone else except we had relationships with same sex partners, otherwise no difference, “dont let anyone tell you any different”.

  • Truth

    I feel DESPERATELY uncomfortable over someone who rambles on about “foreigners stealing our jobs”, when Farrage is married to a German woman who is his secretary. How hypocritical is that? This man and his party are divisive and hate-mongers. Divide and rule appears to be his main policy. Hitler had very similar ideas …..

  • Edgar Carpenter

    It’s just a fact that older people, even the many who now agree that marriage equality is right and just, will never be as comfortable with the subject as young people who grew up thinking of gayness as not a significant difference.

    If you grow up being taught terrible things about gay people, and then live in a world for decades where media coverage of gay people is all negative, your mind is molded in ways that are simply not under conscious control. Young people who believe that humans can just discard old ways of thinking as times change will eventually find out how false that is when they themselves are old.

    So I (a 62 year old gay man) find myself nearly in agreement with Mr. Farage on this, an unusual situation for me. The difference between us here is that, while I think that old people who are stuck with archaic and counter-factual opinions about gay people shouldn’t be nagged and hag-ridden, they should also never, ever, be elected to public office of any kind, and shouldn’t be allowed in private sector positions of authority. They can’t act appropriately in the current world; the world they knew is, thankfully, gone.

  • ASocialFlutterby

    I beg to differ. My 92 year old Mum adores her gay grandson, took the vicar to task for his church’s condemnatory attitudes to lesbian and gay people, and now no longer attends. She also gave short shrift to a (Christian) teacher of our acquaintance who thought I must be ‘torn’ having a gay son. Discussing last night’s Eurovision Song Contest, she was delighted with Conchita Wurst’s win and said how much better it is nowadays that people are free to live and dress as they wish. Also, how good it is that transgender people can now get help and treatment to be the people they know they truly are. So, Mr Farage and your ilk, please keep your impertinent generalisations to yourselves. Your voter base is not defined by age, but by the lack of intelligence displayed by the recipients of your ‘farage’ of nonsense and prejudice.

    • Steven Gregory

      Great to hear.
      I read an article by a woman over 70 and she said she hates far fewer things in life: there’s no time or energy. If she doesn’t like certain music or shows, she turns the channel or turns it off. Easy.

  • Toad

    I should be able to freely and openly hate and threaten bigots with violence, because I’m young and grew up in a strongly antireligious background.

  • Chrismas

    My nan and grandad are both 79 years old (married 58 years), and the only thing they are uncomfortable with about me is that I smoke. I won’t be voting UKIP, even though I agree with a lot of their points on immigration and the EU, they don’t exactly strike the balance required for a good resolution to the problem.

  • S1999

    Roll on the 22nd, when all the UKIPers find out just how unpopular they really are, despite all the noise they make.

  • Chris in LA

    I do not think that the over 70s would show a uniformity of opinion on most things any more than the under 50s. Many older people are perfectly comfortable with LGBT people and they probably were when they were younger, too, just as some young people would appear to be anti-LGBT. These blanket generalizations are unhelpful

  • CHBrighton

    So now, in trying to defend the unpleasant Helmer, Farage has trashed the reputation of most people over the age of 70, saying they are uncomfortable about gay people. I think what he really means is that most people over 70 who feel that way are in Ukip.

  • Steven Gregory

    Conservatives the world over seem to play from the same book: making declarations based on their personal assumptions. Who polled ALL over-70s to confirm how MOST over-70s feel about anything?

    Frankly, if the world were ruled according to “Things That Make Over-70s Feel Uncomfortable,” there would be a lot of soft food and large print.

  • lukefromcanada

    and there is the biggest issue, their candidates are geared towards those who will soon die. Now I am not British although as a Canadian apparently if I lived in England I could vote due to being a commonwealth citizen I would NEVER vote for someone who hated me for who i am, never have never will The UKIP can go suck themselves stupid.

  • David Greensmith

    I’d disagree and suggest that most people with an IQ over 70 have no problem with gay people – it’s the under 70’s who vote for UKIP.

  • JD

    So that means in 5-10 years ALL over seventies will not be uncomfortable – they’ll be dead!

  • Psychologist

    Rubbish ! Most over 70s DO NOT “feel uncomfortable about gays”.
    However, ALL the HOMOPHOBES do !
    They then use PROJECTION to try to displace THEIR OWN homophobia onto an entire other social group, (such as over 70s) in order to attempt to legitimise their OWN homophobia !

  • Robert J Brown

    I’m in a hustings tonight for South Norwood ward with a UKIP candidate who mentioned that it was ‘child abuse’ to put a child with a same sex couple – this should be interesting.

  • james

    Nigel is bang on about this,he knows how many of us feel,keep up the good work,youve got my vote on Thursday.

  • http://chrispower.com Chris Power

    Okay. I am over 70, a grandmother, and straight. I am not uncomfortable about gays or lesbians, either the concept or meeting them in Real Life. support passionately the right of same sex couples to marry if they choose to do so.
    I am equally passionate about loathing the bigotry and cruelty that drives children and adults to take their own lives.
    I love and admire the courage of those in the public spotlight who stand up and say, “I’m gay/lesbian/bi/trans.”
    I have nothing but contempt for the so-called religious people who use their religion to justify their bigotry and cruelty.
    I have nothing but contempt for those so-called religious people who attempt to impose their version of religion on others.
    I have nothing but contempt for the politicians who seek to stir up divisions to feed their lust for power.
    Farage and his ilk DO NOT and never will speak for me.

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