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Austrian drag queen Conchita Wurst WINS Eurovision!

  • Bearded Lady

    and I have started to see the bigotted friends of friends on facebook. …. But well done Conchita. You rock! time for a facebook cull i think

    • rapture

      Yes of your friends who have fascist friends also, they are guilty by association.

      • man in the street

        Careful now, blaming someone for what others believe is what the nazis tried to do….don’t denigrate the success by becoming so narrow minded yourself by making comments like that

        • rapture

          Hardly narrow minded to avoid the friend of your enemy, especially if your “friend” is friends with a fascist who demands your inequality and worse. Maybe you are ok with such association because you lack self worth , but anyone with an ounce of self value would not.

    • Truth

      Sadly, some people are STILL stuck in.a religiously-brainwashed world. They simply cannot see beyond the end of their bigoted big noses. But, despite these Neanderthals, the world is changing for the better to a time when people will be loved – and respected – for whoever they are.

  • gingerlycolors

    And to quote Conchita: “We are unstoppable!”
    Look forward to Vienna (or maybe Saltzburg or Graz) next year).

  • Leigh Taggart

    Well done Conchita!!! Just goes to prove the world believes in LGBT equality, even if their governments don’t.

  • Bikerman

    I’m loving it. The best Eurovision ever. What a winner!

  • Tayo

    i guess Europe prefers beard over moustache. but congratulations to Conchita and Austria

  • Pablo

    It was an AMAZING song and by an AMAZING person representing modern Europe, we got to see which countries are stuck in the stone ages tonight.

  • J.

    That that Vitaly Milonov and Vladimir Putin!
    Congratulations Conchita and yes, we know who we are!!

  • Not Telling

    Europe, the most progressive continent on the planet.

    • Jones

      We’re the only continent who has three LGBT figures as heads of government.

  • Bobbleobble

    It wasn’t a bad song either and she can’t half belt it out. It wasn’t my favourite song of the evening (that was the Netherlands) but definitely a worthy winner.

    I’m pleased that she won for another reason too. It meant she was onscreen pretty much constantly throughout the voting and those Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians who had their petitions and their hatred had no choice but to watch a wonderful talented person who is also LGBT succeed. Take that!

    • J.

      Yes, the Netherlands were great too and a well deserved 2nd. But Conchita’s win will send a message to all the bigots in Europe that “we are unstoppable”!

    • gingerlycolors

      I am glad that the Netherlands did well but even now I cannot help thinking that ‘Calm After The Storm’ sounds somewhat like ‘Every Breath You Take’ by the Police, sampled by Puff (no anti gay thing intended) Daddy with Faith Adams ‘I’ll Be Missing You’.

      • Bobbleobble

        It reminded me of an episode of Family Guy where Lois and Peter form a duo. Still liked it though!

      • S D

        Yes, that’s what I thought too! Very similar.

  • Truth

    Fantastic!!!! Stick that in your backward, bigoted, homophobic, hate-filled pipe, Russia! The world is progressing around you and you are being left behind to languish in your sad Neanderthal past.

    • Lee Hobson

      Hear Hear

    • anon

      For hate-filled rampaging bigots, look no further than the BBC news thread on the same story.

      • Jesus_Mohammed

        I won’t look, but I can imagine. We’re taking inspiration but the worst bigots will see this triumph as a call to arms.

  • Jazatw

    It was fantastic. The whole thing was a huge FU to Putin and Farage. Loved every minute of it.

    • J.

      Indeed it was absolutely fantastic. Just imagine the party going on in Copenhagen tonight. Wish I were there! All the nasty, filthy bigots like Farage and Putin will be squirming. Conchita’s speech at the end will have made them purple with rage. Serves them right.

    • john

      Just looked at the televoting from the public in Russia and other countires like Belarus , Ukraine, Armenia and the public all voted her in the top 5 but the judges from many of the countires voted her in the last 10 or so….plainly the politicians are on a loser forcing their homophobic ideas on the public

    • Carl

      The people of Europe has sent a clear message to Russia. Well done, and congrats to Conchita, worthy winner!

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      Conchita Wurst has triggered a groundswell of LGBT pride all over the planet! Throughout the Muslim world, throughout Russia and its associated states, throughout Africa, China, and the Far East, inspiration has been embedded forever by the brave and gutsy Conchita Wurst with a song and a performance of immense power.

      And don’t you think Conchita at moments looked like so many representations of Jesus Christ? I say that for many Conchita Wurst IS the new Jesus! She’s certainly a far more empowering and meaningful visual likeness of Jesus than that deluded prat who trotted round “The Holy Land” 2,000 years ago.

      http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/11/europe-declares-queen-conchita-the-eurovision-song-contest-winner-4723835/

      • Steven Gregory

        I would buy and wear a Conchita Ascending or Conchita Pieta, even Conchita walking on water! Great observation.

  • rapture

    Brill!, Loved how the ru what a worthy winner, waiting for the mass of cyberspace Russian troll and comrades abuse to begin. Loved how the Russian Nazis and any of the primitive countries giving fascism a 12 got booed , lol!
    Was it the Ukraine voting delegate announcer who was so enthusiastic giving Russia a 12 , bet she’ll be welcome in Kiev now. And loved boos for Armenian pr*ck who was abusive about the new queen of Europe.

    • J.

      It wasn’t Ukraine who gave Russia douze points, it was Belarus – Belarus always gives it’s neighbour Russia douze points.

      • rapture

        Belarus, Russia’s b*tch , yea definitely, but I thought I saw a woman in traditional ukrainian garlands give a 12, maybe was drinking at the time with my mate so got it wrong , but would not be surprised as they still count all of Ukrainian votes , east and crimea.

        • J.

          I can’t be 100% sure, but I think Ukraine only gave Russia four or five points this year. Anyway, Ukraine is a country with many, many homophobes so I don’t want to have to defend it!! lol.

          • rapture

            Yea , they must have bile spewing up from their bellies that their hate campaigns failed.

        • Misha

          I think you are confusing with the Belararusian woman who had that on her hair

  • That There Other David

    The thank you speech at the end said it all. As for the contest the best performance won and the best song came second. Eurovision knocks it out the park. Congratulations to Austria and Conchita. See you next year :-)

  • Al

    After 20 years of watching the ESC from Australia, I have finally managed to pick a winner! Well done Conchita, I picked you weeks ago. Love the song, love the look. WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE!

    • J.

      Australians, being such Eurovision fans, should create and host a global song contest hosted by Kylie. It would take weeks and weeks, even months to complete, but that would be a Eurovision fan’s dream come true!

      • Al

        Wouldn’t that be just fabulous. We can only hope. Don’t know if it could actually happen as Kylie is currently judging on the Australian version of “The Voice” so has commercial tv commitments there. We certainly wouldn’t ask Dannii! ;)

        • J.

          LOL. A 365-days a year Eurovision is the ‘heaven’ I want to go to when I die. Eurovisionism should be a religion!

          • Joeoz

            Does that mean… god is a drag queen with a beard?

          • J.

            As god is the ABBA members morphed into one, then that is highly likely!

          • Joeoz

            So long as god wears flared pants… I have no problem with that scenario at all!

          • Steven Gregory

            My boyfriend says I can have an online crush on you, so I wanna lick your sense of humor.

          • Joeoz

            You’ve made my day…!
            And put a a smile on my face…!

          • Steven Gregory

            You’re cute and bright, who could ask for more? Spectacles are hot

          • Joeoz

            Thanks… you really know haw to make a guy make a guy, blush…!

            I must add, that you’re a lovely young man yourself!

          • J.

            gosh, I’m so loving reading this conversation! Keep going…! :-D

          • Steven Gregory

            Thanks Joeoz, I used to be chubby, then I got it loved off.

          • Joeoz

            Well, you know what they say…
            If you’re chubby… there’s more to love… ;-)

          • gutaitas

            Yeah carry on, it’s like a post-Eurovision soap opera happening :)

          • Steven Gregory

            There’s that, but on the other hand “Sex has no calories, let’s get lean together!”

          • Joeoz

            Best offer, I’ve had all month…lol…:-)

          • Steven Gregory

            Australia must be filled with oblivious dunces.

          • Joeoz

            Sadly… I must be living in the wrong country…?
            Oh well… “Someday my Prince will come…”
            (music playing softly)…. la la la!

            I think my life has just degenerated into a second rate musical?

          • Steven Gregory

            Second rate cheap musicals can play for decades to satisfied audiences: don’t doubt a good hook! Get out there and date your ass off. I have no clue how solitary or social you are, but make yourself available and welcome all. Despite social media, there are still people available for get-togethers and you don’t have to sleep with all of them… unless you feel like it.

            You can’t get hit by a train if you’re on the tracks: and the tracks don’t run through your living room.

          • Joeoz

            Great post and advice! While I’m not a hermit, I’m not into bars and clubs. Actually… I’m a little older than I look! I do a lot of hiking (We call it bush walking in Australia) with a gay outdoor group, so I do get out and about. I know what you mean about social media…! Many people I know thinks it’s a waste of time. Thanks for the encouragement and support!

          • Steven Gregory

            I met Carlo, my BF, through Barack Obama, we both volunteered at a field office during his 2007 campaign when the Democratic National Convention was held in Denver.

          • Joeoz

            Most people will say, that you’ll meet someone when you least expect it…! Though, just don’t look too desperate…lol…
            The funny thing is… all my friends are single as well… ;-)

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      Australia does not have gay marriage (yet), but it does have a large number of “wild” and very “out there” performers, so I think Conchita’s victory tonight is going to inspire yet more of them! Looking forward to it! And very young Aussies with LGBT inclinations will have been inspired too.

      • Al

        We can only hope so J_M :)

  • atalanta

    Even my mum and stepdad – who can’t stand popular culture and never watch Eurovision – stayed up to watch the results. As my mum – who is unsentimental and understated in the extreme – said to me when it was all over, “I expect Conchita’s victory must mean quite a bit to people.”

    A lot of Eurovision countries have a very (very!) long way to go to reach LGBT equality, but I can’t help feeling encouraged by the range of countries which awarded Conchita high marks. No surprise that she got 12 points from the UK, but very encouraging that she got 8 points from Georgia, Ukraine etc.

    • J.

      Yes the high marks to Conchita from certain former soviet countries was a big surprise. It just shows that there are open-minded people living everywhere and plenty in less progressive countries who must be secretly open-minded!

  • JohnE

    I just watched the Eurovision and the best song of the evening was the Maltese entry. This is not an opinion; it’s a fact. The Austrian song was among the top 10 or 15 songs, but nowhere near the best song in the competition. Sung by someone else, it would almost certainly not have done so well.

    The complete mainstreaming of cross-dressing in the modern west is not the sign of progress that many here think. It usually has its origins in severe gender dysphoria in childhood that can often be treated or at least lessened. But that is a different discussion.

    • Bobbleobble

      Err no it’s opinion. As is your nonsense about cross dressing. There is nothing harmful about cross dressing and so doesn’t need to be treated or lessened except in the eyes of the intolerant.

      A drag queen won and diversity was celebrated. That’s progressive. Don’t be so bitter.

    • Eduard

      Except that Tom is a regular gay guy who identifies as a man in his private life. Has nothing to do with gender dysphoria . Conchita is just his stage persona.

      • Jesus_Mohammed

        Thanks for this clarification, Eduard. I’m now even more impressed with Tom.

    • http://hunteratrandom.blogspot.com/ rmthunter

      “Cross-dressing,” as you so quaintly term it, has a long history, especially in a theatrical/performance context. Try doing some research on the theater of the ancient Greeks and the Elizabethans.

      And gender-f**k has developed a solid history of its own in modern times — it’s a political act, pure and simple.

  • Ray

    Criminal Code: Sexual relations and other action of a sexual nature with a person under the age of sixteen (16), Chapter 18, Article 134

    Sexual intercourse, buggery ['muzhelozhstvo'] or lesbianism, committed by a person over 18 on a person admittedly under 14 is punishable by limitation of freedom up to three years or deprivation of freedom up to four years

    Who were booing Russia ? One can presume it was the same homo-lobby who think the above law is ‘homophobic’ and who have hidden it’s real meaning underneath ‘gay’ propaganda which was embraced by the unthinking western media .Eurovision was also hijacked by the homo-fascists (the rainbow swastika was prevalent) in the voting – the dire song by the weak voiced man in a frock would of had languished at the bottom of the score board if it had been sung by a woman or a man (not wearing a dress, including the bloke who won it ! ) .Norton’s sycophantic narration catered for the homosexual elite and their embrace of the tasteless and bizarre – everyone else was not fooled – a stitch-up .

    No doubt next year, the Euro countries will be trawling for the next disordered individual or deviants to represent their own countries – just to show how ‘progressive’ and ‘modern’ they are .They’ll know they’ll make a tidy sum with the phone lines and be able to milk the ‘pink euro’ for all it’s worth …. €€€€€€€€€€€

    • Rovex

      Do shut up you pathetic troll.

      Have you nothing better to do than post on here. What thes the obsession with this gay site? Are you a closet case trying to deny your desires? Seems common to your type. Maybe you should get together with misfit44, you would make a nice couple.

      • Joeoz

        Perhaps, Pink News should declare a national; troll free day…
        It’s obvious that these trolls have never learnt any manners…
        Perhaps they should be told…

        If you can’t say anything constructive…
        Then don’t say anything at all…!

        • Rovex

          They cant help themselves though can they. They probably think it reinforces their heterosexuality or some other lame reasoning.

          • Leonard Woodrow

            Sadly, some indoctrinated minds are too poisoned for the antidote of education to cure them.

            But we must never stop trying.

  • Richard Kurvers

    Ok If we (The Netherlands) – after all those years – had won the ESC … That would have been great in capital letters… But seeing Conchita win after such a beautiful performance – that is really fantastic! It made my day!!! BTW: Austria is not the most progressive country in the EU… Her performance WILL have a positive influence and support LGBT people not only in Austria but in all less tolerant countries in western (and hopefully also eastern) europe countries.

    • J.

      The Dutch song was great, my joint favourite with Austria. Seldom does my favourite win, never mind first and second! I hope the Netherlands wins again very, very soon. Last time was 1975 so you’re overdue a win and opportunity to host again.

      • Richard Kurvers

        Yes I admit, I already have the entire CD collection of Ilse De Lange (the female part of the Common Linnets) She really is a great singer.. So I was a major fan of at least half of the dutch team already before the competition and hoping for a number 1 position ;-)

        Well who knows… last year our Anouk reached a number 9 position in the final, this year our Common Linnets a number 2 ranking … A dutch saying goes “3x is scheepsrecht” – the third try will definately be succesful! ;)

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      The Dutch entry was one of the very few that had melody and good harmony. 97% or so of the songs were pap. The Greek entry was shameful for a nation so gifted in melody and harmony.

      • Madgeographer

        Iceland was lovely, too. Very bombasting and the message was great!

    • Madgeographer

      We don’t live in Cold War. There are also central (Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Poland, Slovakia…), southern (Italy, Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Albania…) and northern European (Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania…) countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Madgeographer

        In Georgia, which people often count as “Eastern Europe”, and which actually is in Southern Europe, 100% of the vote is from televoting, and 10 points went to Austria from Georgia. Actually, even people in Russia gave points to Austria (5 points)

        • Richard Kurvers

          It was not my intention to refer to western and eastern countries in terms of cold war :-) I merely referred to their geographical location, knowing that eastern countries are more conservative on LGBT issues like diversity and tolerance.
          And YES!!!! I was very happy to see that also a lot people in Georgia and in Russia were able to vote for a great performance with a message of tolerance and diversity!

          I think that really is a sign of hope for all of us ;-)

          • Madgeographer

            well, please don’t. Many people get really offended. People are offended to be called that, for instance, which is why the Daily Mail just helps itself to insult them. Poland (which is the country that never criminalised homosexuality in its history, since its beginnings as a country in 10th century, yes 10th) is geographicall in western Europe, all of it, but people share central Eruopean culture with Germany, hence they are caled Central European and we should stick to it.

            Please DO apply geographical or cultural terms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Extreme_points_of_Europe.png

          • J.

            Madgeographer – you’re the one being offensive to our Dutch guest on this site. Please be more relaxed and stop taking an inoffensive comment from his post to make an issue of. Most people still refer to Europe as being western/eastern. It no longer refers to a ‘cold-war’ divide, but rather the lack of social progressiveness in most of the ex-communist countries. In that context, the east/west divide is still relevant and can be legitimately referred to in conversation as it is a reality.

          • Madgeographer

            How am I offensive? By expressing my thought after being already offended? Dutch? Guest? Sorry, but this is still the EU.

            Most people were educated in the Cold War, hence I am not surprised, but even then geography was the same. But if you were skipping school… Anway, “Western Europe” was just a shortcut term for the Western Bloc and neutral countries, and “Eastern Europe” for Eastern Bloc countries.

            Progressiveness? EXCUSE ME? Update your stats. See which countries ban corporal punishments and school and at home, which countries have greatest woman equality, which countries adopted civil partnerships, which countries have gay adoption, where women could vote first, where first education ministry was established, which countries score best in education or which countries have greatest media freedom.

            The east/west division exists in your head. You should display a bit more critical thinking and actually check if what you are saying has a currency today, and if it ever had.

  • Jon (Malaysia)

    This is a wonderful, and I mean that in the true sense of the word, I am filled with wonder and happiness, brave new world upon which I stand. To think that the conversations I had in high school revolved around who was cooler, the Monkees or the Beetles ( I know I know but there were girls in the conversation), and what will you do if you come back from Viet Nam. It doesn’t seem all that long ago to me, and I guess in geological time it isn’t.

  • Rovex

    The ESC was as political as ever, but this time it was a big F U to Russia. Not the best song for sure, but it was the best statement. It also quite telling that Russia gave it points as did many of its neighbours.

    • J.

      The positive thing is that it was less political this year with countries not necessarily giving their favourite neighbour the ‘douze points’. Russia still got top marks from a few of its neighbours and got booed for doing so! I felt a bit sorry for the 17 year-old Russian twins but happy that the viewers in Russia will realise that their country’s behaviour is very unpopular.

      • Rovex

        Yeah i felt sorry for the Russian sisters as well. Its true that we don’t know their politics, but they seemed nice and rather overwhelmed by the anti-russian sentiment, I wasnt a bad song either.

        • rapture

          I did not feel sorry for em, it’s like feeling sorry for Ratzinger being in hitler youth and we do know their politics by their silence. If they had any decency , they would not want to represent a fascist, imperialist, annexing country. But I guess brief fame came before any humane decisions.

          • Rovex

            You can love your country and still hate the government.

          • rapture

            Think you’re splitting hairs in this scenario.

          • Rovex

            And i think you are talking crap so I guess we are even.

          • rapture

            ok , got your snipe first time, jeez keep your knickers on, defend those who represent those who associate you as a dirty old pedo because your gay
            as much as you like. I’d rather take the less snivelling approach. You’re a weak doormat, man up!

          • Rovex

            Im not a weak doormat, but im not an over-sensitive reactionary idiot either. I don’t condemn an entire nation for the actions of a few. To do so would be racist. Are you racist?

          • rapture

            Lol! that was a weak,desperate grasping response with the inappropriate use of race card? a bit like putin’s &comrades use of the old race card about their critics.
            I did not make any commentary regarding Slavic peoples. So your referral to racism is empty and desperate.
            Are you homophobic? or a homophobe enabling supporter is a more pertinent question? “actions of a few”, You obviously need to make yourself aware that most of the Russian population support these homophobic measures, not just the Duma. Do a bit of research about Russia and it’s citizens overwhelming support of homophobia and their making association of such as a danger to children, before making pathetic comments

          • Rovex

            You are still grouping all Russians together which is stereotyping if nothing else. I hate Russia as a place and certainly wouldn’t want to live there, but I still wont condemn these girls until I know what THEY think. If they are homophobic then yes they deserve it, if not, then they don’t.

            Call whatever you think whatever you like, im calling it racism since you obviously think all Russians are the same.

            Calling me homophobic is pathetic and desperate. Look at some of my other posts before making that lazy claim. Clearly that’s why you are grouping everyone together, you are lazy and don’t want to look into things to closely because it proves you wrong.

          • rapture
          • Rovex

            Do THESE GIRLS believe that?

          • rapture

            Yes they do, otherwise they would not associate with representation of such.

          • Rovex

            Oh really? Not everything revolves around homosexuality or your opinion. You are incredibly narrow minded and self centred.

            People like you encourage homophobia.

          • Rapture

            Yep, your comment were the words of a homophobe.

          • Rovex

            Because i dont hate every Russian? You sound like a fascist as well as a racist.

            By your child like reasoning everyone in the UK prior to 1967 was also only worthy of condemnation, and yet here we are today. Grow up, maybe you should step out of the gay bar once in a while and look at the real world.

          • rapture

            more implied homophobia, keep digging kitty lol!

          • Rovex

            Not homophobia, its just you. Please keep gong plenty of us here are having a good laugh at your pathetic reasoning. I can keep this up forever.

          • rapture

            “us” in your head or you are so weak you need online backup. I’m sure you do spend all day/everyday on here trolling , but I gotta get back to my life. I tried to help you with your limited ability at empathy and reason, but no hope there.

          • Rovex

            My limited ability at empathy, says the child bully..

            Oh well at least we know the sort of person you are, it will be remembered.

          • rapture

            I added a link for you, as you have a lazy mind and cannot be bothered to check facts. There are numerous other reputable sources which support my view. Anyhow I’m still calling you a homophobe as you obviously empathise more with reps of a homophobic country than the victims..

          • Rovex

            You love to keep digging yourself into a hole dont you. Link all you like, you are still generalising. What a failure you are.

          • rapture

            LMAOF! You are wrong again, but it’s your choice to remain ignorant and live in your little bubble of denial. You can deny the truth and use tired old desperate cliches all you like, it won’t make it go away

          • Rovex

            Well i doubt ill change the mind of someone so self centred who thinks everything revolves around them and their views.

            Never mind racist, you keep it up, ill keep judging people on an individual basis, rather than clubbing everyone together.

            All your arguments, and links which contain generalisations are pointless until you can demonstrate these girls are homophobic.

            Its just as well I don’t judge all other gay people by you, a man who wants 2 17 year old girls to fight his battles for him.

          • rapture

            “I hate Russia ………….wouldn’t want to live there” why? another contradiction , at least try to be consistent with your drivel.

          • Rovex

            Its not a contradiction at all. Its not a pleasant place to live for many reasons. I dont want to live in London either, its a horrible place.

          • Rovex
          • rapture

            Yea and Boy George was number 1 in 80’s Britain/usa and elsewhere, hardly a signifier of social tolerance.

          • Rovex

            Well id say a bearded drag queen was more obvious than boy George. People didn’t even realise was gay in the 80s, such was their naivety. your still generalising, still failing.

          • rapture

            You just generalised about people in the 80s , you are so unaware , you can’t even see your own obvious contradictions, hypocrisy much.

          • Rovex

            That was a fact, look it up.

            You’ve been called out as racist, deal with it. Until you can demonstrate that these girls are homophobes you have no case, and even then you don’t since I said im willing to change my view if they are shown to be, whereas you are condemning them based on their nationality alone. Thats bigotry.

          • rapture

            you are confused between race and nationality clearly. (but as you are unable to even define what is race/culture/nationalism or racism, it’s irrelevant) I’m surprised you could even watch the show all the nasty “racists” in copenhagen booing Russia and “generalising” an entire nation. Thank goodness you did not come to the gay bar I watched it in, all the big gay bully “racists” booing poor Russia for it’s homophobic persecution. Your defence of such is homophobic. You are a homophobe. Maybe you should see someone about carrying all that internalised self hatred around.
            I’ve already commented why I believe them to be homophobic by them representing a rampant homophobic country, the evidence is already there for their nation, if you want to remain ignorant, your problem.

          • Rovex

            And you are a bigot, judging people without knowing anything about them. Thankfully some people are more measured and fairer on the individual. You just seem like a nasty bigotted person.

            So im a homophobe for not booing 2 17 year old girls I know nothing about? Fine, if thats what you think, you think it because i want to be nothing like you.

          • rapture

            You are a homophobe for your defence/refusal to acknowledge a nation imbued with homophobia.
            You really are a wish washy , limp thing if you think i’m nasty for standing against homophobia.

          • Rovex

            I think you have lost the plot. I never said Russia wasn’t full of homophobia, I just said that not all Russians are homophobic and that these girls may not be. Booing 2 17 year old girls is bullying children. I said i felt sorry for them because of their age and because we dont know what they actually think. Representing their country does NOT make them homophobic by association any more than me doing so would make me a colonial subjugator by association.

            I think you are a nasty, aggressive idiot that does nothing to help the cause at all. Frankly you encourage homophobia by being so unpleasant.

          • Rovex

            Oh by the way, Racism can apply to nationality to, these days its more wide-ranging term. Either way, if the shoe fits..

          • rapture

            your convenient definition, can apply in your mind, you mean.

          • Rovex

            It doesnt really matter, your still prejudiced against 2 17 years old girls.. 17, does it make you feel like a big man?

          • rapture

            You clearly prejudiced in your support for 2 who represent a nation which encourages attacks/tortures of LGBT teenagers.
            Oh I get the big man jibe now, because I told you to man up before in previous comment, you got insecurity of your masculinity

          • Rovex

            I dont support them at all, i just felt sorry for 2 17 year old girls being booed by several thousand people. Is that wrong?

            You are a bully, bullies usually have insecurities..

          • Rovex

            I think you are talking rubbish so I guess we are even.

          • Rovex

            Its possible to love your country but hate your government. I will condemn them when they demonstrate anti-gay sentiment, not before.

          • rapture

            I disagree, making yourself a rep for a country that violates human rights on a global stage, implies that you are implicit in support of such measures.
            It is the same as someone from apartheid south Africa being patriotic and representative of a country responsible for the persecution of others.
            Blind patriotism is a lame excuse for these two.

          • David H

            They’re 17, from a country where the government pretty much controls the media. There’s every possibility that they’ve gone into this with little concept of what has been going on in the wider world and, given the oppressive anti-gay regime i their homeland, they’ve probably had little information on LGBT issues other than it being some kind of bogeyman.

            I am sure that the girls will develop their own opinions and ideals as they get older which, as Rovex says, may be pro or anti-gay. But, I suspect a 17 year old from Russia is probably a lot less worldly wise than one from the UK.

          • rapture

            I think you do disservice to these 17 year olds with that comment. If unaware of what is happening in the country they represent and in the wider world especial being in the media , they must be very stupid.

          • David H

            I would hope that I’m simply giving them the benefit of the doubt. We know that the country is somewhat oppressive. I know very little about the girls’ background, but, the most recent set of figures I’ve seen (2011) show that, while the number of Russian people with internet access is greater than Germany – it’s still only around 30% of homes that have it.

            Obviously, I don’t know how old you are – so I must apologise if this comes across somewhat patronising; but, I grew up in the 1970s-80s, long before home internet access was common (I think I eventually got internet access in 1999 when it was still only just becoming common). Until then we had to rely on the media for their interpretation of what was going on in the world.

            It certainly wasn’t an unbiased viewpoint and there were too few alternative viewpoints to allow one to decide which bits they thought were the most accurate. I was never a fan of Thatcher, but she certainly wasn’t Putin. And yet, as a 17 year old in a free country, I was unable to hear the voices of Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness because they had to be dubbed by actors – such was her censorship of the media.

            So, while I’m certainly open to admitting that I may be wrong and these two girls may be as bigoted as the leaders of the country they represented. I think it’s certainly viable in a country where internet access isn’t as widespread as it is here and where the government holds a tighter control over the media than even Margaret Thatcher at her worst, the girls wouldn’t have to be “stupid” to be unaware of the feeling much of the rest of the world has toward their country, merely ignorant of it. Let’s be 100% realistic, Putin’s hardly going to allow the news to run with “the rest of the world hates us because we’re bigots”.

          • rapture

            I understand ,where you are coming from,. However, even if they are unaware, they still represent a homophobic, imperialist annexing tyranny.
            The booing for their country, not necessarily them, is nothing to the teenage gay men being raped with broken bottles and having p*ss thrown on them and being falsely accused of paedophilia because they are gay. So by what is happening , raising such concern over a bit of booing(which happens on uk shows all the time) is a little insensitive to the real victims of hate. If the Russian twins are too precious, they are in the wrong business.

          • David H

            I kind of agree with you in a number of respects. Ignorance itself is a crime. The problem in Russia is that it’s imposed and people often don’t have access to the wider world to educate themselves out of ignorance.

            I would certainly hope that the girls take something out of the booing and start to ask the question as to why they were received like that, because that’s the only way the country will educate itself while dictator Putin remains in power and his bigoted views are instilled on the population as “normal” and, until he and his kind are gone the criminals who abuse and rape gay men will never feel the weight of the law against them.

            It’s a terrible situation there and, short of outside intervention – which I think unlikely, it’s only the decent people of Russia (and there are many – the surprising support for Conchita hinted that there are more than we perhaps realised) who will succeed in bringing an end to the atrocities there. Often, in these situations, it’s the ones who are able to leave the country and see it as others do, like the position the girls were in, who can be the catalyst for change.

            Sadly, things aren’t going to change there any time soon, so it’s important to ally with those who want to do good and prove to those who live in imposed ignorance that we’re not the monsters Putin paints us to be and that it’s he and his bigots who are the real monsters and that change will come.

            I hope you and I are both still around when it does to celebrate it on here :-)

  • Misha

    Conchita I’ve been hoping you would win!!! Lots of love for Conchita!! <3

  • one.second

    I just read that Conchita actually was voted 3rd in Russias televoting and that the Russian jury gave her zero points.
    In Germany she was voted first but the jury also didn’t give her any points.

    • J.

      I’ve just started looking through the detailed jury and televoting results on the official Eurovision site and already I’m noticing that the jury vote appears to be very political in many instances with the expected anti-gay nations ranking Conchita at the bottom. Yet, the same prejudices don’t appear to be reflected as much in the televoting results.

    • J.

      Poland was 1st with the UK televoters yet it came last with the UK jury! Combined, the UK’s ‘douze points’ went to Austria.

      • gingerlycolors

        Ex-pat communities have a lot of influence when it comes to voting. We have some half a million Poles living here in the UK who can vote for their own country. By the same token there is a large ex-pat British community in Spain who can vote for us.

      • Jesus_Mohammed

        Poland 1st with UK televoters? Oh, dear! Polish women whoring themselves on screen and UK televoters want them to win and instead of Conchita? That is sobering news.

    • Steven Gregory

      In other words, TV imitates life.

  • Rovex

    The whole thing was designed as complete defiance to bigots. 2 male presenters, breaking the usual heteronormative duo, and a bearded transvestite as the winner. I cant imagine any other international event doing that. Well done Denmark for making the most of it.

  • Eduard

    There were celebrations in the streets here in Vienna. Young guys shouting CONCHIIIITAAAAAAA from their cars. If was beautiful to see.
    Btw, this is going to be a boost for same sex marriage in Austria. A public conversation has already started and the major parties have expressed their general support.
    Conchita proved the homophobes in Europe, including her own country, wrong. This is indeed a new era.
    Her speech at the end and the way she changed the lyrics of her song during the final performance, made her into a true LGBT icon. She inserted >you throw stones at us, but we will rise<, or something in that sense. OMG, I love her so much…

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      “you throw stones at us” – she did that? Wow! She has even MORE guts than I’ve thought! Brava!

  • TakisPapas

    I am glad Greece gave Austria 12 points! Well worth it!

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      The Greeks know a good melody and good harmony. Pity the Greek entry had none, eh? If Greece learns the lesson from this, then it could win next year! :-)

      • TakisPapas

        The Austrian entry meant a lot for all of us, besides the music, song….I m glad the Greek audience aknowledged that….

  • Steve_R

    Not an unexpected win! but some one does Not look happy! there should be a slogan contest for the linked picture… I have two already! “Ha Ha Ras(berry)Putin” and “I am not happy.. I am not amused, Austria your next!”

    #eurovision pic.twitter.com/RXEqwVvcBn

    • Steven Gregory

      He often looks unhappy when he’s deep in thought, transported in daydreams: his brow furrows because he can practically feel her beard against his neck and taste her taught skin.

      • J.

        He looks unhappy ALL of the time! He has a facial expression that has a resemblance to Hitler. You’re right though about what he’s probably thinking in that caption!

  • very annoyed

    Im trans and am going to get asked about this for weeks. I am not impressed. as far as im concerned this MAN has just made life difficult for me

    • J.

      Sorry, but I feel you’re being a bit too self-focused about it. He’s a gay man who likes to ‘dress up’ as part of his stage act. Some gay men (and some non-gay men for that matter) do like to get made-up and dressed-up and there’s nothing wrong with that!

      Tom Neuwirth’s act as Conchita challenges societal views on gender and how it’s expressed. He is a symbol for tolerance and artistic freedom.

      Tom/Conchita does come under the banner of LGBT and as we’re all in this struggle for rights and equality together, then all of us who are LGBT should view Conchita’s victory as a step forward and something to celebrate.

      • Ray

        Stanley Baxter , Danny La Rue & Les Dawson as Ada Shufflebotham challenges societal views on gender and how it’s expressed. They are symbols for tolerance and artistic freedom.

        Jack Duckworth/Ida Fag does come under the banner of LGBT and as we’re all in this struggle for rights and equality together, then all of us who are LGBT should view Bill Tarmey’s victory as a step forward and something to celebrate.

        It’s official – the homo-lobby have lost the plot a long time ago .

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8143292/Jack-Duckworth-in-pictures.html?image=9

        • J.

          Ada Shufflebotham was a humorous character of the great comedy artist, Les Dawson. Tom Neuwirth’s artistry is being a serious drag artist who is a successful singer. They are both great, but two completely different concepts.

          I imagine though, that it is difficult for you to understand. If you could manage to overcome your bigotry, you might actually be able to understand the true meaning of things. You would stop feeling the paranoia, the shame, the guilt, the self-hatred you’ve stored up in your head and instead be able to accept your sexuality. Then you’ll discover the true joy of being gay.

          The first step is to seek counselling. Your GP will be able to arrange that and don’t worry about speaking the truth to your GP as anything you say remains confidential. You only get one life so don’t waste it being hateful.

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      Be positive! Think positive! Reframe! This MAN has just helped make life BETTER for you.

      • Steven Gregory

        When someone selects the screen name “very annoyed,” they seem to be intent on complaint and whining. It’s doesn’t indicate an embrace of things that are upbeat and exhilarating.

    • Steven Gregory

      Really? Gays and lesbians who lack understanding and breadth of acceptance have been saying the same thing about Trans people for decades. What is your transition, “very annoyed,” H-to-B (Human-to-Bitch)?

      Homosexuals are often decried by those who don’t want to answer questions from their children.

      Get over yourself.

  • Steven Gregory

    Congratulations to Conchita!
    Looks like talented queens are storming stages everywhere. Yannis Marshall and his dance partners TORE IT UP on Britain’s Got Talent, dancing in high heels — Yannis has lots of dance videos on YouTube, he’s an adorable MONSTER in and out of heels.

    • Jesus_Mohammed

      Thanks for this, Steven! I don’t follow UK popular culture much, so I didn’t know about it. The world is truly changing!

      • Steven Gregory

        My pleasure. I am a variety talent show junkie, ever since I discovered they exist around the globe and can be accessed on YouTube. Australia has had many barrier-busting acts, but one of my favorite is Academy of Brothers, who are a group of youth determined to find life off the streets. This performance incorporates dance moves from the Harlem Ball drag competition circuit which were introduced by some of AoB’s gay and transgender members, whom they acknowledge and embrace. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z34nCItmkM

        • David H

          Google Strike from Britain’s Got Talent a few years back. Not a dance act but very enjoyable. Let’s just say, I shared Amanda Holden’s hot flush ;-)

          • Steven Gregory

            I remember them well. They had the looks and skills, but beyond the first appearance needed more visionary concepts. I remember one of the judges saying to the lead guy, “You’re a star,” and he practically blushed. America is so full of self-impressed goofballs, seeing people with honest humility is refreshing.

    • Suddenly Last Bummer

      I find the histrionics and affectations a bit cringe to be honest.

      • Steven Gregory

        The world needs people like you: monotone, monochromatic, gray and serviceable. I’m sure you’re highly usable, like a hinge or a doorstop.

  • doug

    Russia gave Austria 5 votes more than UK and the televote of the people ranked her 3rd place, so they’re not all anti-gay in Russia.

    eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=RU

    • doug

      Televote of UK also ranked her 3rd!

  • Benji

    PN seeming to headline her, simply, as a drag queen rather misses something of the point.
    She is uniquely herself and her spirit shone through. Surely she was saying that we shouldn’t be categorising people at all.

  • john

    I see some of the Russian politicians now want to occupy Austria after Conchita’s victory!

    “Fifty years ago the Soviet army occupied Austria. We made a mistake in freeing Austria. We should have stayed,” -leader of the lib dem party in Russia!

    http://www.channel24.co.za/Music/News/Russia-Anti-gay-anger-over-Eurovision-winner-20140511

    • Daniel

      It should be pointed out that the Russian “Liberal Democratic” party is a puppet of Putin’s United Russia party, and is neither liberal nor democratic- it’s ultranationalist.

      • Joe McDougall

        To be fair, our Liberal Democrat party isn’t as described either! Tory mugs :-/

  • S D

    Congratulations to Austria, I definitely thought Conchita gave the performance of the night. However, the booing for Russia merely played into Putin’s hands as it gives him a chance to play his usual game of portraying Russia as a poor innocent victim of European bullying (turning the truth around 180 degrees) – and Russia even gave Austria some points, so he can claim Russia wasn’t prejudiced against Conchita. The smart thing would have been to simply applaud the Russian song politely, it was never going to win anyway as it wasn’t strong enough. Conchita’s win was a strong enough message to Putin without the booing. Let’s be careful to distinguish between Russia’s government and its people.

  • Tom

    I think Conchita’s message, as well as that of the ESC, is a great one. Even so, I’m not sure this is as ‘progressive’ as everyone claims. Tom has said he is not transgender and Conchita is just a role he takes – for entertainment really. In this way the performance just fits into the age old trope of gender ‘abnormalities’ as entertainment, in an almost freakshow manner – it’s ok for entertainers to be gay or have ‘unusual’ gender traits so long as they’re FABULOUS and hilarious. Transvestism itself can also be a misogynistic act: the man takes on the female persona because he can but in the end he can drop it and return to the male, as Tom himself has mad every clear. I wonder would Conchita have won if she was actually transgender and not as fabulous, with a ‘wurst’ in her name? Also, Conchita and many others speak of tolerance, but tolerance itself is phobia. Tolerance and acceptance are phobia. We have only progressed as a culture from phobia when something becomes a non-issue.

  • Lion in Winter

    The stars won’t come out if they know that you’re about
    ‘Cause they couldn’t match the glow of your eyes
    And oh, who am I ?
    Just an ordinary guy
    Tryin’ hard to winning first prize

    Oh, Conchita
    We could make it together
    The further from here, girl, the better
    Where the air is fresh and clean

    Conchita
    Just take my hand and I’ll lead ya
    I promise life will be sweeter
    Yes it said so in my dreams

    (with thanks to Tony Orlando and Dawn)

  • Silly Old Bastard

    I cannot for the life of me understand the positive comments on this
    thread. This off beat individual is now going to be representative of L & G
    for some time to come. That is not good. Think about it.

    • bobbleobble

      That’s not her fault nor is it a reason not to celebrate the victory. The problem lies with idiots who for whatever reason can’t bring themselves to understand that not all gay people are the same. But if Conchita is going to get out there and cause some fuss and help maybe generate change then frankly I don’t care.

      I couldn’t be more different from Conchita if I tried (for a start I can’t grow a beard) but I’m not worried that people might associate me with a strong and talented person who happens to cross dress anymore than I am that people might associate me with Michael Sam.

      • Silly Old Bastard

        I’m not accusing anybody of hypocrisy, but will use the kinder word
        “fickleness’’. If I had the time, I would cross reference the topic of Alan
        Carr, who had a hard time of it the other week. I expect to find some of those who are congratulating Conchita had earlier slammed Carr for being an ‘unacceptable stereotype’. Why is this?

    • Steven Gregory

      You Silly Old Bastard, the G/L have many representatives. If I don’t shave for a few days or am due for a haircut, nobody is going to suspect I can maneuver on heels and belt out a tune. Put away your internalized shame.

  • Victor

    And a new gay (GLBTI) icon is born. She was totally fabulous. Well done. And a great snub to all the haters out there. Pink power.

  • Madgeographer

    YEY!

  • Katie

    It seems the backlash against Conchita’s victory has already begun in Russia. I can’t speak Russian but the presenter and audience seem to be mocking her. Such sore losers, eh?

    • Tom

      Can anyone give us a translation of what this person is saying about Conchita?

    • Steven Gregory

      I’m sure this isn’t the first time Conchita has been ridiculed or bullied, but this commentator and the setting REEK of unrestrained homosexual excess.

  • Ivan

    If you are ever in a fight, make sure the drag queens are on your side.

    • Steven Gregory

      And, I’ve heard, if you ever anger a drag queen and she kicks off her shoes and pulls off her earrings, RUN!

      • rapture

        Better have a fierce drag queen on your side , than a parody of a traditional straight guy anyday. Drag Queens are sh8tkickers.

  • Anon

    Photo-caption : “Dan, eat a Snickers” “Why?” “Because you turn into a right diva when you’re hungry” :) :) :) Maybe Tommy will get a job advertising Snickers or perhaps Gillette ?

  • Happy Jack

    A victory? Really? This man is a hero ushering in the brave new dawn? Get real.

    Conchita means conception and is often used in Latin countries to honour the Virgin Mary. It is a very feminine name. Whurst, as we know, is German for sausage.

    This man wants a real man with heterosexual drives so presents in a boyish female form. And yet …. he really wants a real man who desires another man, hence the beard. A contradiction. It’s impossible.

    He is a metaphor for a certain type of male homosexual double-bind. An endless quest for the impossible.

    He also represents a genderless dystopia where all that matters is pleasure without constraint.

    • Christopher in Canada

      And the problem with that is…..?

  • Chris Mark

    The Netherlands was hands down the best song of the night but Conchita’s win wasa victory for tolerance over prejudice. ‘Calm After The Storm’ is currently number three on the UK mIdweek charts, it’s doing the best out of any of the entries.

  • Colin Cass

    Great Stuff Conchita you Really Socked it to Putin! & So did the Whole of Europe! A Great night to put that Monster Putin & his like in their place!

  • Colin Cass

    YES this was a Great Statement by Conchita when she said We will win in the End speaking for all LGBT people throughout the World ,We are one people bonded together throughout the world! We will Unite to protect our brothers & Sisters in lands where they are oppressed!

  • darzan

    …the Austrian entry was tremendously clever and great..anyone who opposes this should be stoned to death!!!!!!!HA!

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